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February 11, 2013, 05:15:31 AM
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$30 by weeks end?

$15 by weeks end? Grin

Nope, but $15 by weekend.
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February 11, 2013, 05:28:04 AM
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$30 by weeks end?

$15 by weeks end? Grin

I think it will take a whole while longer for a millibit to reach that kind of valuation.
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February 11, 2013, 07:01:02 AM
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Bull blood boiling like that makes me nervous. I'm a super-bull, but markets can be irrational. *moved over towards proudhons dark corner a bit, shivering in fear*

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February 11, 2013, 07:16:09 AM
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Bull blood boiling like that makes me nervous. I'm a super-bull, but markets can be irrational. *moved over towards proudhons dark corner a bit, shivering in fear*

In a real bubble you would not have enough time to experience fear, it's a very much controlled expansion.

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February 11, 2013, 07:55:09 AM
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so let's see a show of hands...are we in a real bubble?

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February 11, 2013, 07:58:10 AM
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so let's see a show of hands...are we in a real bubble?

no, buy there may well be a sizeable correction

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February 11, 2013, 08:00:35 AM
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so let's see a show of hands...are we in a real bubble?
Yes... And this explain it pretty much well:
Heck.. With a rally like this even i am not selling my mined coins. It is like a self fulfilling prophecy. Bitcoin users want the price up, refuse to sell, and it goes up. Common sense tells me this cannot continue at such a rate yet if ppl wont sell and there are still buyers... Up it goes.

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February 11, 2013, 08:00:46 AM
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so let's see a show of hands...are we in a real bubble?

no, buy there may well be a sizeable correction

It doesn't look like bull blood-boiling, but a manipulator/group of manipulators' cold, calculated hand, fortunately, this hand maybe pushing the price to where we want it to be.

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February 11, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
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the manipulator aspect doesn't have to be significant; all we need is a steady flow of new demand/new users which I think we can see on this site.

The fact that we rose so fast after a lot of us though we would see a correction and thus sold too early; first we are oversold; second we are 'learned' from this experience to wait till the full top which itself is a 'self fulfilling prophecy.' Last the psychological point to beat the last all time high of around $30 is another driving factor to people holding off selling.

Demand: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=buy%20bitcoins&date=1%2F2011%2025m&cmpt=q

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February 11, 2013, 08:27:59 AM
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the manipulator aspect doesn't have to be significant; all we need is a steady flow of new demand/new users which I think we can see on this site.

The fact that we rose so fast after a lot of us though we would see a correction and thus sold too early; first we are oversold; second we are 'learned' from this experience to wait till the full top which itself is a 'self fulfilling prophecy.' Last the psychological point to beat the last all time high of around $30 is another driving factor to people holding off selling.

Demand: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=buy%20bitcoins&date=1%2F2011%2025m&cmpt=q

We are not moving fast, we are moving way slower than it should have been, the rally is deliberately slowed down, to make it sustain longer, to prevent it from turning into a bubble.

Unlike the explosion last time, this time when the reaction core got probably too hot, controlling rods were inserted to make it cool down a bit, freak out some weak hands a bit, and so on, we have seen it several times. Someone with deep pockets and great skills maybe in control,  if they want they could have wiped the mere 20000 BTC separating us from $30 long ago, but it's not in their best interest to do so.

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February 11, 2013, 08:30:15 AM
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the manipulator aspect doesn't have to be significant; all we need is a steady flow of new demand/new users which I think we can see on this site.

The fact that we rose so fast after a lot of us though we would see a correction and thus sold too early; first we are oversold; second we are 'learned' from this experience to wait till the full top which itself is a 'self fulfilling prophecy.' Last the psychological point to beat the last all time high of around $30 is another driving factor to people holding off selling.

Demand: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=buy%20bitcoins&date=1%2F2011%2025m&cmpt=q

We are not moving fast, we are moving way slower than it should have been, the rally is deliberately slowed down, to make it sustain longer, to prevent it from turning into a bubble.

Unlike the explosion last time, this time when the reaction core got probably too hot, controlling rods were inserted to make it cool down a bit, freak out some weak hands a bit, and so on, we have seen it several times. Someone with deep pockets and great skills maybe in control,  if they want they could have wiped the mere 20000 BTC separating us from $30 long ago, but it's not in their best interest to do so.

When you will get burned you will tell me.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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February 11, 2013, 08:34:42 AM
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the manipulator aspect doesn't have to be significant; all we need is a steady flow of new demand/new users which I think we can see on this site.

The fact that we rose so fast after a lot of us though we would see a correction and thus sold too early; first we are oversold; second we are 'learned' from this experience to wait till the full top which itself is a 'self fulfilling prophecy.' Last the psychological point to beat the last all time high of around $30 is another driving factor to people holding off selling.

Demand: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=buy%20bitcoins&date=1%2F2011%2025m&cmpt=q

We are not moving fast, we are moving way slower than it should have been, the rally is deliberately slowed down, to make it sustain longer, to prevent it from turning into a bubble.

Unlike the explosion last time, this time when the reaction core got probably too hot, controlling rods were inserted to make it cool down a bit, freak out some weak hands a bit, and so on, we have seen it several times. Someone with deep pockets and great skills maybe in control,  if they want they could have wiped the mere 20000 BTC separating us from $30 long ago, but it's not in their best interest to do so.

When you will get burned you will tell me.

Thanks, but no need to worry about me. I got plenty of both, when the price comes down I'll just throw in my fiats to buy more. Unless you are one of those daydreaming bears waiting for the $2 BTC, who knows.

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February 11, 2013, 09:07:30 AM
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I'm not, but I suggest everyone not to buy at this level. By getting burned I mean buying now before the crash. We might even hit 50, but we will see a crash that will lead us under 20$, I'm quite sure of it.

What I don't agree with you is that you think that the market to be runned by some "speculators" that are in your opinion driving the price "where it should be".

There is nothing of more false and more dangerous than this!

The speculators are nothing more than us, the market. We are creating a lack of offer and driving the price up. Until people like you belive that this is something that is happening above us, the price will keep rising because it looks like normal, the truth is that we are loading a big bubble. This is not a change driven by fondamentals, it's a rally and a bubble.

Good luck with your investments.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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February 11, 2013, 09:14:53 AM
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I'm not, but I suggest everyone not to buy at this level. By getting burned I mean buying now before the crash. We might even hit 50, but we will see a crash that will lead us under 20$, I'm quite sure of it.

What I don't agree with you is that you think that the market to be runned by some "speculators" that are in your opinion driving the price "where it should be".

There is nothing of more false and more dangerous than this!

The speculators are nothing more than us, the market. We are creating a lack of offer and driving the price up. Until people like you belive that this is something that is happening above us, the price will keep rising because it looks like normal, the truth is that we are loading a big bubble. This is not a change driven by fondamentals, it's a rally and a bubble.

Good luck with your investments.

Ah, I see, you only registered on August of 2012, so you probably have no idea how this market was in the past rampantly manipulated by just one or two single entities, more than once? If so ask most of the people here and they will tell you.

While I generally agree with what you said when it comes to general investment(what I stated above has nothing to do with my own strategy), this market is way too small for that to apply word by word I guess.

Besides, no one is going to take things posted here seriously, relax.

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February 11, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
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Ah, I see, you only registered on August of 2012, so you probably have no idea how this market was in the past rampantly manipulated by just one or two single entities, more than once? If so ask most of the people here and they will tell you.
I've followed the market sporadically since the beginning of 2011.
So no, i have no idea of how 2 or 3 individuals could spend 100 million dollars to manipulate the price (doubling the bitcoin value in 2 months).

But i won't argue with it, i will just (not) invest basing on my toughs, we are free to do whatever we want Smiley

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February 11, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
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I guess if we want it to come to USD5000 within 2-3 years, we will have to have some velocity.
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February 11, 2013, 09:52:35 AM
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Ah, I see, you only registered on August of 2012, so you probably have no idea how this market was in the past rampantly manipulated by just one or two single entities, more than once? If so ask most of the people here and they will tell you.
I've followed the market sporadically since the beginning of 2011.
So no, i have no idea of how 2 or 3 individuals could spend 100 million dollars to manipulate the price (doubling the bitcoin value in 2 months).

But i won't argue with it, i will just (not) invest basing on my toughs, we are free to do whatever we want Smiley

Oh, I did not say the rally was generated by the manipulator himself, but I think he is fully capable to slow it down quite a bit, and as you know he could certainly be selling and buying at nearly the same time, sorry for the confusion if there is any.

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February 11, 2013, 10:28:50 AM
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Someone just decided to dump 4227 BTC in de MtGox Euro market. And not a single fuck was given.

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February 11, 2013, 11:35:08 AM
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Someone just decided to dump 4227 BTC in de MtGox Euro market. And not a single fuck was given.

is clarkmoody doubling volume again? I only see a bit more than 2k on bitcoincharts.

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February 11, 2013, 11:46:04 AM
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tick tock


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Oh, and on chinese new year too, well done!

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