GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[jackblacksparrow]

Team pay coin is owned by his church buddy Adam right?

Yes.

@Gava said: @GAWCEO I notice your update is slowing turning into an announcement actually :-p Might wanna rename it, just saying. Also if we want to dissect individual wording etc. If you want a perfect launch for the Honors program, should we expect delays this week if the devs don't knock it out of the park? Also you saved resources to re-stabilize Paycoin? Does that mean you didn't use your resources before to stabilize it despite saying they were being used? Or is this newly found funds? Any reason the honors program terms can't be released ahead of time? And I'll save everything else for later, just want to get this stuff out of the way.

@GAWCEO said: The answers to your questions are on the PayBase Blog.

... except there is nothing of the sort in that blog.

OMG Josh has lost the plot.  If anyone believes this they are well...I cant help them.

These are obvious red flags,

The thing with Josh that those left on Hashtalk are not seeing or are refusing to believe its happening, Josh is pumping his shitcoin with shit nothing news and most of the time lies..

Remember at the conference we constantly heard 400k merchants ready to go - now they are NOT EVEN bothering to fix paybase and its features.  They are not even bothering to do the right thing and yet like all the news for the week - they are forgotten and never to be repeated and people act as if its all working and happened.  Wake up nothing is working.

All Josh is doing is now doing this stupid honor program for people who cried like a little bitch about a 20 dollar floor - that is priority number 1 for GAW and JOSH ?

That is the direction the idiots left on hashtalk have pushed the entire coin/forum/company with their greed and I hate greedy fuckstains - its mind numbing absurd since only very little amount of xpy will be able to be in the programme.  And I dare say GAW will fill up all available slots.  Screw the customer he is putting in a program that is nothing more than a good will gesture because it will also be plagued with issues...such is the nature of gaw programmers - poor.

Never mind that paybase is a pile of shit with nothing working, the lies after lies, the false promises after false promises - everything is carefully calculated to pump or dump the shit coin - those that have been trading coins for a while will know exactly whats going on and can play the swings perfectly - such is the obvious nature of this clusterfuck.

[Mr Felt]

Team pay coin is owned by his church buddy Adam right?

Yes.

@Gava said: @GAWCEO I notice your update is slowing turning into an announcement actually :-p Might wanna rename it, just saying. Also if we want to dissect individual wording etc. If you want a perfect launch for the Honors program, should we expect delays this week if the devs don't knock it out of the park? Also you saved resources to re-stabilize Paycoin? Does that mean you didn't use your resources before to stabilize it despite saying they were being used? Or is this newly found funds? Any reason the honors program terms can't be released ahead of time? And I'll save everything else for later, just want to get this stuff out of the way.

@GAWCEO said: The answers to your questions are on the PayBase Blog.

... except there is nothing of the sort in that blog.

OMG Josh has lost the plot.  If anyone believes this they are well...I cant help them.

These are obvious red flags,

The thing with Josh that those left on Hashtalk are not seeing or are refusing to believe its happening, Josh is pumping his shitcoin with shit nothing news and most of the time lies..

Remember at the conference we constantly heard 400k merchants ready to go - now they are NOT EVEN bothering to fix paybase and its features.  They are not even bothering to do the right thing and yet like all the news for the week - they are forgotten and never to be repeated and people act as if its all working and happened.  Wake up nothing is working.

All Josh is doing is now doing this stupid honor program for people who cried like a little bitch about a 20 dollar floor - that is priority number 1 for GAW and JOSH ?

That is the direction the idiots left on hashtalk have pushed the entire coin/forum/company with their greed and I hate greedy fuckstains - its mind numbing absurd since only very little amount of xpy will be able to be in the programme.  And I dare say GAW will fill up all available slots.  Screw the customer he is putting in a program that is nothing more than a good will gesture because it will also be plagued with issues...such is the nature of gaw programmers - poor.

Never mind that paybase is a pile of shit with nothing working, the lies after lies, the false promises after false promises - everything is carefully calculated to pump or dump the shit coin - those that have been trading coins for a while will know exactly whats going on and can play the swings perfectly - such is the obvious nature of this clusterfuck.

Are there still users over there that had their BTC stolen after gaw/paybase reversed the transactions that were part of that flash crash a few weeks back (during the Miami conference) and that have yet to be compensated/reimbursed for the theft?

[10BTCaDay]

Team pay coin is owned by his church buddy Adam right?

Yes.

@Gava said: @GAWCEO I notice your update is slowing turning into an announcement actually :-p Might wanna rename it, just saying. Also if we want to dissect individual wording etc. If you want a perfect launch for the Honors program, should we expect delays this week if the devs don't knock it out of the park? Also you saved resources to re-stabilize Paycoin? Does that mean you didn't use your resources before to stabilize it despite saying they were being used? Or is this newly found funds? Any reason the honors program terms can't be released ahead of time? And I'll save everything else for later, just want to get this stuff out of the way.

@GAWCEO said: The answers to your questions are on the PayBase Blog.

... except there is nothing of the sort in that blog.

OMG Josh has lost the plot.  If anyone believes this they are well...I cant help them.

These are obvious red flags,

The thing with Josh that those left on Hashtalk are not seeing or are refusing to believe its happening, Josh is pumping his shitcoin with shit nothing news and most of the time lies..

Remember at the conference we constantly heard 400k merchants ready to go - now they are NOT EVEN bothering to fix paybase and its features.  They are not even bothering to do the right thing and yet like all the news for the week - they are forgotten and never to be repeated and people act as if its all working and happened.  Wake up nothing is working.

All Josh is doing is now doing this stupid honor program for people who cried like a little bitch about a 20 dollar floor - that is priority number 1 for GAW and JOSH ?

That is the direction the idiots left on hashtalk have pushed the entire coin/forum/company with their greed and I hate greedy fuckstains - its mind numbing absurd since only very little amount of xpy will be able to be in the programme.  And I dare say GAW will fill up all available slots.  Screw the customer he is putting in a program that is nothing more than a good will gesture because it will also be plagued with issues...such is the nature of gaw programmers - poor.

Never mind that paybase is a pile of shit with nothing working, the lies after lies, the false promises after false promises - everything is carefully calculated to pump or dump the shit coin - those that have been trading coins for a while will know exactly whats going on and can play the swings perfectly - such is the obvious nature of this clusterfuck.

Are there still users over there that had their BTC stolen after gaw/paybase reversed the transactions that were part of that flash crash a few weeks back (during the Miami conference) and that have yet to be compensated/reimbursed for the theft?

The dozens of people who reported loses all got banned from what I've seen

[torelle]

An open offer to Mr Garza


I am willing to turn GAW around as a company with the following stipulations.


1. 1-1.5 Million/year salary
2. CEO title (I manage all aspects of the company and all subsidiaries)
3. I bring my personal team on board (with relocation assistance and benefits)
4. Full medical benefits
5. Relocation assistance
6. You become a silent investor
7. I receive full immunity from previous mistakes that has happened in the past (indemnification for me and my team)


Take this as a joke or not, if you want to talk let me know

it didnt take long for this to get blasted on ht.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30346/new-offer-from-themage-andrew

I like how they got so worked up on a single joke post. Probably trying to shift focus to something they can mock on rather than embracing on the fact that their investment is gonna disappear

I could be or couldnt be joking, its only not a joke if im contacted with an offer

When I read this the first time, the ice cubes in my cocktail cracked... lol...

Personally, I would have demanded more to refloat that boat.

Scott-

I think its fair

Love it. Just love it.

[jackblacksparrow]

Team pay coin is owned by his church buddy Adam right?

Yes.

@Gava said: @GAWCEO I notice your update is slowing turning into an announcement actually :-p Might wanna rename it, just saying. Also if we want to dissect individual wording etc. If you want a perfect launch for the Honors program, should we expect delays this week if the devs don't knock it out of the park? Also you saved resources to re-stabilize Paycoin? Does that mean you didn't use your resources before to stabilize it despite saying they were being used? Or is this newly found funds? Any reason the honors program terms can't be released ahead of time? And I'll save everything else for later, just want to get this stuff out of the way.

@GAWCEO said: The answers to your questions are on the PayBase Blog.

... except there is nothing of the sort in that blog.

OMG Josh has lost the plot.  If anyone believes this they are well...I cant help them.

These are obvious red flags,

The thing with Josh that those left on Hashtalk are not seeing or are refusing to believe its happening, Josh is pumping his shitcoin with shit nothing news and most of the time lies..

Remember at the conference we constantly heard 400k merchants ready to go - now they are NOT EVEN bothering to fix paybase and its features.  They are not even bothering to do the right thing and yet like all the news for the week - they are forgotten and never to be repeated and people act as if its all working and happened.  Wake up nothing is working.

All Josh is doing is now doing this stupid honor program for people who cried like a little bitch about a 20 dollar floor - that is priority number 1 for GAW and JOSH ?

That is the direction the idiots left on hashtalk have pushed the entire coin/forum/company with their greed and I hate greedy fuckstains - its mind numbing absurd since only very little amount of xpy will be able to be in the programme.  And I dare say GAW will fill up all available slots.  Screw the customer he is putting in a program that is nothing more than a good will gesture because it will also be plagued with issues...such is the nature of gaw programmers - poor.

Never mind that paybase is a pile of shit with nothing working, the lies after lies, the false promises after false promises - everything is carefully calculated to pump or dump the shit coin - those that have been trading coins for a while will know exactly whats going on and can play the swings perfectly - such is the obvious nature of this clusterfuck.

Are there still users over there that had their BTC stolen after gaw/paybase reversed the transactions that were part of that flash crash a few weeks back (during the Miami conference) and that have yet to be compensated/reimbursed for the theft?

I don't know, I am confident in saying those that have the issue and posted a thread about it, all got deleted. Only that shill account who said it was fair for gaw to reverse the charge is the only thread left...ironically.

[strangerdanger101]

"Paycoin Origin" badge seems to have been renamed to "Paycoin Innovator" and some new ones are being issued to replace the members who left:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30383

GAWCEO
Admin
Moderator
Industry Innovator
New Paycoin Innovator Badges
In light of the members that have left our community, I think it would be nice to recognize those that have stepped up in their places.

We need 7 more Paycoin Origin Members.

Time has a way of test us and revealing our true character. Who do you think has really shown this community what it means to lead, even when it is tough?

In 5 years, when we look back to where Paycoin started, who do you think deserves to be remembered?

Once we pick them all.

I am going to give them Premier Accounts and 500 XPY each. As a thank you for their efforts

Obviously some HT members can't be accused of modesty, but this part is hilarious:

Gava
@GAWCEO Mine got removed? That's nice

AnimoEsto
Same - would have been nice to have actually had some notification
(Not that it bothers me but common decency yanno)

So he just took badges away from someone he doesn't like? Nice indeed.

I just changed the name of Origin to "Paycoin Innovator"

I did it because I now see that being an "Original" holds little value. In fact many of those "originals" went on to hurt the community because things did not go "their way". Rather than taking the high road, they hurt the community because things did match their perspectives. Their actions showed their character.

I changed to "Innovator" because that is speaks the present. We must always be Innovating

You are an Innovator!

So childish, definetly not professional.  He's creating a situation for a negative environment within his own company once again shooting himself in the foot, he should know who these innovators (suckers) are and just give them out.  Now its a big shit show, but please by all means continue  

[10BTCaDay]

How many customers do they have left anyways? A couple hundred?

[jackblacksparrow]

By Rick Ross, Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist

 
Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

    Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
    No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
    No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
    Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
    There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
    Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
    There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
    Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
    The group/leader is always right.
    The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

    Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
    Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
    Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
    Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
    Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
    Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
    A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
    Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
    Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
    Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.


And to think as I was reading through this and relating Hashtalk and Josh and my experiences in the forum, its pretty scary.  This is for the warning signs of a cult, a cult leader and their followers by the way and I firmly believe Josh and Adam and whoever the fuck else form that church are involved in creating a cult here.  religion and crypto = tax havens.

Now

Ten signs of a safe group/leader.

    A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.
    A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.
    A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.
    A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.
    A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.
    A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.
    A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.
    A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.
    A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.
    A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.

 

[torelle]

I know people from Hashtalk read this thread & I just wanted to post this. I had purchased physical miners from GAW over the summer & later had a couple of Hashlets, which I sold shortly after. I have been following this whole thing from the start, when the Hashlets that will always be profitable started paying people a fraction of a cent. I have no money tied up in GAW now, but I have witnessed this whole thing unfold like the rest of you. I don't care about XPY either way & have tried to be as objective as humanly possible. I am no seasoned investor, but if there was money to be made from GAW, XPY or mining, I would be in.

First, even if we were to ignore a lot of the events pre-XPY launch. The non existent miners, the secrecy of GAW, Josh's previous failed ventures from before GAW Miners, etc.. The $20 floor, regardless of the excuses, blame & backpeddling by Josh was a huge clusterfuck. Let's assume he had the best of intentions, to later say he was unaware of the legality of manipulating the market, that people misunderstood his postings & it's the fault of dumpers & a coordinated effort by XPY haters. Have any of you asked yourselves, which excuse is the correct one? How do you have any faith whatsoever after such a huge display of incompetence by a company? Seriously, try to take a look at the $20 floor fiasco from the perspective of someone not invested with GAW, step outside your biased GAW box for a moment & be honest with yourselves. The whole $20 floor thing is just ridiculous & that alone should be enough for you to get out of XPY & run from this company. But you stay & cheer this guy on?

Then, after the $20 floor fell through & people started asking questions, Josh challenges another respected industry insider to a public debate, only to turn around & say 'let's have an email debate'? Then he goes to BTC Miami with a promise to hold a Q&A, then abruptly cancels. Sure he had an excuse for cancelling, like always, then why not an online Q&A a few days later? You surely can't be buying the excuse that he is too busy developing features, but has the time to visit Tesla, post on his forums & do seminars for his church, can you? Why are none of you XPY holders saying WTF & DEMANDING he do this debate or an open Q&A? After all, since you all cheer Josh along every step of the way & have such faith in Josh's vision & this coin, Josh would surely come out of any debate victorious, right? An Honest Q&A would surely sooth investors, no? If Josh's promises of features with no ETA is enough to pump this coin up by 25-50 cents, a debate where he came out victorious would surely pump this coin a lot more, no? Why are you not on Josh to have this debate? How could you all be cheering this guy on? I don't get it. Not to mention that Josh was a no show for the mining panel. What an unprofessional thing to do at a conference he himself was a sponsor for.

To you Hashtalk members lurking here. How in the hell do any of you who hold XPY manage to still believe in this coin, let alone defend Josh or GAW as a company? How do you manage to still have hope that this coin will turn around? How do you put any stock in any statements from Josh whatsoever? What I, as well as all of you, have witnessed just blows my mind. His forum posts are sad & pathetic. The promises of features that never materialize, saying they have contracts when they do not & playing semantics with their words is just over the top. I had to agree to the TOS when signing up for BCT, but for me to go around telling people I have an agreement with BCT would just be stupid. Well that is what Josh did with Gyft & others. I suppose you can blame coinfire or other bad press, but the shit has been hitting the fan with XPY long before those articles. Josh's latest statements where he acts like GAW is a huge company that has no obligation to respond, like he & the company are taking the high road is just nonsense. Can you not see this?

When I hear GAW & Josh will not prove they have investors or holdings & they don't feel they should dignify their detractors with a response, I think of the recent McDonalds video. Now McDonalds is a huge company, with tons of money. They have a product that everone knows is unhealthy for you, yet they still have tons of people buy their food daily & are hugely successful. Recently, when McDonalds took a beating in the press about their manufacturing process & how they source ingredients, how did they respond? They could have said we are too big to respond, big companies don't need to respond to stuff like this. But instead McDonalds turned around & put out a video showing exactly how they manufactured their food. How is it that McDonalds can respond to slanderous articles without merit, yet GAW can not? That's right GAW is too big of a company & according to Josh, that is not how big companies operate. Tell that to McDonalds.

Now, I am reading posts at HT where Josh can joke about Coinfire's misfortunes, ask members for legal help, despite having hired a great law firm days ago, but can't post & answer peoples questions in the Paybase buyback thread? These are the people who still have faith & invested in his vision. But he can't monitor the buyback thread & answer simple questions? Seriously? The buyback is what the GAW faithful really care about, but Josh is silent. Are you people really going to send him your XPY? Do you really believe you will get your money back? I AM JUST ASTOUNDED! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

Very astute post. Pretty much sums it up.

[owlcatz]

They're bots aka fake accounts, you can tell by the writing.  They're all positive and literally sound like a robot, like your cell phone giving navigation.  "What is that guy doing?  He is dumping coins, I like buying the coins with my newly deposited btc, this makes me happy, hahaha", shit like that.

We know it's a complete ponzi scheme and smoke and mirrors.  The whole idea is to get new people that's how the ponzi works.  

I'm glad this bct thread has saved thousands of people maybe millions of dollars in the long run.

You know, i wanted to believe that, but like we all talked about 100's of pages ago - many of these "bots" appear to have real lives, meaning twitter, facebook, etc etc.. not all are just tweeting merrily about paycoin either, many have long histories of posts before that...

For example, see the HT OP's ( https://hashtalk.org/user/apmapm12 ) BCT account here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=216804 

(Check it, one of his last posts was about cryptodouble lol)...

Obviously, he's either a paycoin shill on the payroll, or he really does believe in it. He has a twitter as well, however unused for a few years. Then again, maybe that's part of the scam, buy twitters, bct accounts, facebooks for all their "fake" users to all keep up the appearance .. (Sorry, but that's just to tinfoily  for me though). I am willing to say most could be bots, but honestly, I don't believe all of them are. No way. Just ... no way... (?)


I do agree with your comment on saving people. I've been here since the old thread, so I know it's true as well.

[10BTCaDay]

They're bots aka fake accounts, you can tell by the writing.  They're all positive and literally sound like a robot, like your cell phone giving navigation.  "What is that guy doing?  He is dumping coins, I like buying the coins with my newly deposited btc, this makes me happy, hahaha", shit like that.

We know it's a complete ponzi scheme and smoke and mirrors.  The whole idea is to get new people that's how the ponzi works.  

I'm glad this bct thread has saved thousands of people maybe millions of dollars in the long run.

You know, i wanted to believe that, but like we all talked about 100's of pages ago - many of these "bots" appear to have real lives, meaning twitter, facebook, etc etc.. not all are just tweeting merrily about paycoin either, many have long histories of posts before that...

For example, see the HT OP's ( https://hashtalk.org/user/apmapm12 ) BCT account here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=216804 

(Check it, one of his last posts was about cryptodouble lol)...

Obviously, he's either a paycoin shill on the payroll, or he really does believe in it. He has a twitter as well, however unused for a few years. Then again, maybe that's part of the scam, buy twitters, bct accounts, facebooks for all their "fake" users to all keep up the appearance .. (Sorry, but that's just to tinfoily  for me though). I am willing to say most could be bots, but honestly, I don't believe all of them are. No way. Just ... no way... (?)


I do agree with your comment on saving people. I've been here since the old thread, so I know it's true as well.

Where did Josh find these guys though? A church forum? He is finding these weak minded individuals somehow..

[owlcatz]

Where did Josh find these guys though? A church forum? He is finding these weak minded individuals somehow..

Someone on here alluded to the fact that religion had something to do with it all but never posted more info... I can't recall who, but it was a few days ago I think... I even asked the poster what he meant, but don't recall seeing a reply.

I really wish I knew, I really do. Hopefully it all comes out in the end as well... 

[eightcylinders]

[snipped]
Never mind that paybase is a pile of shit with nothing working, the lies after lies, the false promises after false promises - everything is carefully calculated to pump or dump the shit coin - those that have been trading coins for a while will know exactly whats going on and can play the swings perfectly - such is the obvious nature of this clusterfuck.

I am not so sure its a clusterfuck though.  In one sense it is evilly Gawsome... getting grandmas and kids to give up their milk money for hashlets on the promise of always making money, then killing the hashlet and offering XPY and Hashtakers instead (just a little more money for the virtual hashtaker to hold your virtual XPY Johnny and Nana, just a little more) ... all the while using the hashlet income to buy 4 Petahash of SHA256 miners and payback ... nothing but a satoshi or two.

Then, the balls to come up with a plan to market XPY has the next evolution of crypto and get little Johnny and Nana to believe it all while GAW (and or their possibly non-existent investors) dump the 12 million premined coins on the market only to be scooped up by the dupes. 

So little Johnny and Nana got to buy useless virtual hashlets (paid real $$), then got to convert those to XPY and invest more for hashtakers (more $$$), then got convinced to buy up "cheap" XPY from the "market" (e.g., GAW and friends) so as to protect XPY from the Big Bad Wolves (that would be the Dumpers).

It would be funny except its so evil. I wouldn't do to my second worst enemy what Josh has done to his Flock (okay, I admit I would do EXACTLY that to my ex-wife if I could, but I draw the line there!)

[10BTCaDay]

Where did Josh find these guys though? A church forum? He is finding these weak minded individuals somehow..

Someone on here alluded to the fact that religion had something to do with it all but never posted more info... I can't recall who, but it was a few days ago I think... I even asked the poster what he meant, but don't recall seeing a reply.

I really wish I knew, I really do. Hopefully it all comes out in the end as well... 

The word Faith gets passed around a lot around there so I presume there is an abnormal amount of religious fanatics on hashtalk.

[Phildo]

Of course they're not talking about fixing paybase. that was the thing to buy them time after the $20 floor failed, which was the thing to buy them after some other thing failed. We're onto the honors program, that is much more important than paybase, paycoins, an ACTUAL $20 floor, hashlets, or the "negotiations" to get the pool payouts back up.

As for the church stuff, look back through the thread for the church talk Josh and wife have been scheduled to do twice, there's some TX megachurch that has ties to several Garza and other GAW leaders if I'm not mistaken.

[eightcylinders]

The word Faith gets passed around a lot around there so I presume there is an abnormal amount of religious fanatics on hashtalk.

A couple of hundred ? pages ago, there was discussion of a church connection between Josh and at least a few of the True Believers on HT.  Josh appears to be active in the Church (he and his wife appear on a video and give some kind of a seminar on how being Christian means not being normal ...)

I personally have no issue with whatever religion anyone wants to choose .. but I also think its interesting as the most fervant True Believers in Josh on HT have told me that they know him and have faith in him regardless of all evidence to the contrary ... so they are "investing in Josh".  That may seem crazy to you and me since we don't know him, but it would make perfect sense if a lot of your core investors came from a close knit community like a church.

Its a theory, with some evidence to support the connections, but no one has really proven the link IMHO.

[torelle]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30380

GAWCEO
 Admin
Moderator
Industry Innovator
Small Update Part 2
Hello,

I wanted to provide a small update from snowy New England.

Current Development
We are all hands on desk for the Honors Program. Our developers are going to knock it out of the park. We realize how important it is that this program has a perfect launch. We have saved our resources to help re-stabilize the value of Paycoin.

The terms of the Program will be available when it launches. You will have 30 days to review.

We also have some small updates coming: graphs for the market place, etc

Primary Feature Status
The majority of the larger features are waiting on some type of regulatory or legal approval.

PaySave- Paycoin browser plug in
PayCard- Paycoin Debit Card
PayFlash- Instant Paycoin to Gift Cards
Just waiting on the green light from all departments.

Between the launch of these features and the Honors program, we are excited to see the value of Paycoin start to rapidly move.

Premier Accounts
Premier Accounts are in development, and we hope to roll out the first features to those accounts first.

Team Paycoin
Finally, we have been strengthening our relationship with Team Paycoin. I will not ruin the surprise, but they have some goodies coming that rival even our work

Translation:

We are trying to meet our self-imposed deadline for the Honors Program but likely the signup page will be late and buggy, plus we are wasting time implementing some features nobody asked for.

PaySave, PayCard, PayFlash - nothing going on here, since we have "all hands on desk" (sic) for the Honors Program and also due to our "complacency".

Paycoin value is "rapidly moving" in the wrong direction despite the buyback promise, but let's pretend that is actually a good thing.

We'll signup a few shill accounts with Premier and have them post exiting news about all the new features.

And since most of our developers left we are hoping Team Paycoin will save us from ourselves.

See, this is how to READ a post from Josh. It's almost a whole new language to decipher.

[Paul Revere]

Isn't the "Weird . Because normal is not working" Church chat from Josh & Wife supposed to be happening right now?

Edit to add: I guess it is tomorrow about this time.

[KC6TTR]

The origin of the master plan? http://i.snag.gy/2izhc.jpg

[owlcatz]

Isn't the "Weird . Because normal is not working" Church chat from Josh & Wife supposed to be happening right now?

no, 23 hr 47 mins left according to the link http://www.cornerstonelifegroups.com/