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April 05, 2015, 09:33:56 PM
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An interesting read about Tony Musso, a con artist I knew personally.  He totally reminds me of Josh.  I had totally forgotten about him, but I looked up the case to see if it was brought on by the SEC and sure enough!  Unfortunately his punishment was he could not own or run a business in the USA for 10 years.  Guess what he did?  He moved to Hong Kong!

https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp17888.htm
Some highlights:

1. Defendants raised at least $10.5 million from over 770 investors nationwide who purchased stock in NSS and AWC sold through a group of unlicensed sales agents affiliated with Franchise Direct, Inc. ("Franchise Direct") a South Florida boiler room operation.

Doesn't this sound familiar?  High pressure tactics and constant advisement not to sell even though things are looking bad?

2.  Franchise Direct has never been registered with the Commission as a broker-dealer or in any other capacity.

Doubt GAW is registered either

3. He gave away 100 shares of free stock to entice investors.

GAW did this countless times

4. the sales agents had sham titles of vice-president of either NSS or AWC

Wow, this sounds familiar?

5. and made egregious misrepresentations and omissions, comparing investments in both companies to investments in successful Internet companies such as AOL, eBay and Amazon.com.

OH, the old Amazon trick!

6. "guaranteed" a 200% return on their investment in the event of an initial public offering ("IPO").

$20 a coin sounds pretty familiar?


I won't bore you, but I could go on and on.  

Long story short, it took about a year to make up a case against this guy and stop him.  It was another 2 or 3 years in 2004 when they made final judgement against him.  This may be a long road, but they will get him.

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April 05, 2015, 09:57:32 PM
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Any reason to hold paycoin now? (archive) is quite an entertaining thread. Some reasons people give to still hold paycoin:

* Price can't drop any more now. Upside is much higher than downside now.
* Paycoin has features no other coin has, and other coins are scrambling to catch up but they're too far behind. [Features unspecified]
* Paycoin is faster than Bitcoin, and Bitcoin only gets slower as it gets older.
* Look at the big picture. Great things going on behind the scenes. Things that are right around the corner. 30 days max.

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April 05, 2015, 10:02:20 PM
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An interesting read about Tony Musso...

Wow, I could provide links to each of your points where garza paralleled these tactics. Including one where he claimed that you could 'easily make six figures mining bitcoin'... my first thoughts were (a) is that with an investment of nearly seven figures, (b) is he counting the two digits after the decimal point, and (c) is this in a year or over the next century?

The more research I've done, the more sad I get for the bulk of his victims because his tactics are SO CLEAR in hind sight, yet I can see how he knew just how and when to play them. It's hard to figure out if he's a psychopath or just got lucky... because he really doesn't appear to be very intellectually bright and he's technologically nearly a complete idiot. The saddest part is, that if he gets busted out of the tech industry... he's probably going to end up a politician. So, right now, I'm REALLY hoping that he runs to Hong Kong instead.

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April 05, 2015, 10:05:50 PM
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Any reason to hold paycoin now? (archive) is quite an entertaining thread.

Okay, this statement is just so sad:

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I think we caused all of this. I mean, where did all that dumping paycoin came from.


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April 05, 2015, 10:13:10 PM
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I love the comparisons of coinstand and purse.io

They are completely different

coinstand is offering 20% discount - this comes directly out of the owners of constands pocket. Either they sell for a loss at market value, or gamble on the chance of a steady incline in price every few weeks, allowing them to temporarily hold coins and sell for  similar price they were exchanged for or a little bit more.

This is completely flawed in a few ways , for one, for it to be economically viable you need to assume that the value rises at a constant rate for practically ever , if not , the company cannot sustain itself. It just isn't going to happen


Purse.io doesn't give you any extra value, you gain the extra value from other people wishing to exchange bitcoin or buy amazon products. then purse acts as an escrow and takes a fee from that escrow.


Purse.io has zero costs for the items that are being sold on their website but make money on every single trade.transaction within their system . Coinstand has a constant 20% deficit.  losing 20% of value instantly on selling you any item.

As you can see one is economically viable , one is a train wreck waiting to happen.


What is even funnier is, If paycoin had simply copied purse.io , they would have a solid business , ability to buy anything on amazon AND the ability to buy paycoin with credit cards and other means. solving 3 problems with 1 website
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I think Garza blocked me, as well.

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https://hashtalk.org/topic/35750/if-paybase-was-shut-down-by-doj-there-would-be-a-doj-fbi-message-on-the-homepage/14

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If Paybase was shut down by the DOJ they would have taken control of the domain paybase.com. They would have replaced the homepage with a page that says Paybase was seized by the DOJ or that the FBI was investigating or whatever.

Since the homepage is normal we can be assured that the articles are false.

Are you all such lemmings that you believe everything you read in the "false" media?

Then further down, some asks GAWCEO directly if he's being investigated by SEC... no response yet.

Since this document ( http://www.scribd.com/doc/260708659/Securities-and-Exchange-Commission-Subpoena-of-GAW-Miners ) explicitly states "investigation" into GAW Miners, LLC ... wonder how he'll spin it?  Some on there said that it's a GOOD thing he's being investigated because that means that he's big enough for them to care about what he's doing.  Now, that's such a cute way of looking at it... bet the SEC wishes EVERYONE felt that way when they're investigated.



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https://hashtalk.org/topic/35750/if-paybase-was-shut-down-by-doj-there-would-be-a-doj-fbi-message-on-the-homepage/14

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If Paybase was shut down by the DOJ they would have taken control of the domain paybase.com. They would have replaced the homepage with a page that says Paybase was seized by the DOJ or that the FBI was investigating or whatever.

Since the homepage is normal we can be assured that the articles are false.

Are you all such lemmings that you believe everything you read in the "false" media?

Then further down, some asks GAWCEO directly if he's being investigated by SEC... no response yet.

Since this document ( http://www.scribd.com/doc/260708659/Securities-and-Exchange-Commission-Subpoena-of-GAW-Miners ) explicitly states "investigation" into GAW Miners, LLC ... wonder how he'll spin it?  Some on there said that it's a GOOD thing he's being investigated because that means that he's big enough for them to care about what he's doing.  Now, that's such a cute way of looking at it... bet the SEC wishes EVERYONE felt that way when they're investigated.

I have no idea if the following post is legit or not:

quick update

I have officially resigned from my duties @ gaw. DOJ is true they have come in and even confiscated my personal macbook air and galaxy note 4 mobile so yes i am going to take charges against gawminers, they even owe me for the last 4 for my work , the news has gone out to investors also and they are also taking action against gaw , sec have found hundreds of forged documents/emails. Matlack is also part of the scam and he is the sole owner of at east 5 prime controllers without paying a single cent. april 8 is when everything shuts down. Once I get my macbook back if i do i will post some documents that i saved which will show everyone the amount of corruption. i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up. when the price of paycoin goes down garza makes an announcement to bring the price back up everytime. in reality there is and will not be any new features uptades if you are reading this right now convert all your paycoin to btc whilst you can and move on because in the next few day price will hit 0.000001, we were forced to get paid in paycoins at the start so in the end all the work i have done costed them $86 where it should be $10000 range

very sad
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I have no idea if the following post is legit or not:
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I have officially resigned from my duties @ gaw. DOJ is true they have come in and even confiscated my personal macbook air and galaxy note 4 mobile so yes i am going to take charges against gawminers, they even owe me for the last 4 for my work , the news has gone out to investors also and they are also taking action against gaw , sec have found hundreds of forged documents/emails. Matlack is also part of the scam and he is the sole owner of at east 5 prime controllers without paying a single cent. april 8 is when everything shuts down. Once I get my macbook back if i do i will post some documents that i saved which will show everyone the amount of corruption. i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up. when the price of paycoin goes down garza makes an announcement to bring the price back up everytime. in reality there is and will not be any new features uptades if you are reading this right now convert all your paycoin to btc whilst you can and move on because in the next few day price will hit 0.000001, we were forced to get paid in paycoins at the start so in the end all the work i have done costed them $86 where it should be $10000 range

very sad
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Who is "Jake"?

If that's true about the paycoin payments and $85, the guy needs to start a complaint with the Dept of Labor over wage theft (for all who were paid that way) and in prep for a civil case so that can be in the works to try to get some funds out of the seizures because IF they can say garza sold even a few ounces of drugs along the way, they can try to seize ALL his personal assets for auction without regard to their value compared to amounts owed on fines. Between everyone who's going after garza, i'd be willing to bet his accounts are all frozen already, including any registered BTC trading firms. Frozen accounts... small consolation for all those people who waited weeks for their paybase accounts to unfreeze. Hopefully paybase is function now so they can at least get their BTC out of there.

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April 05, 2015, 11:00:09 PM
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I have no idea if the following post is legit or not:
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I have officially resigned from my duties @ gaw. DOJ is true they have come in and even confiscated my personal macbook air and galaxy note 4 mobile so yes i am going to take charges against gawminers, they even owe me for the last 4 for my work , the news has gone out to investors also and they are also taking action against gaw , sec have found hundreds of forged documents/emails. Matlack is also part of the scam and he is the sole owner of at east 5 prime controllers without paying a single cent. april 8 is when everything shuts down. Once I get my macbook back if i do i will post some documents that i saved which will show everyone the amount of corruption. i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up. when the price of paycoin goes down garza makes an announcement to bring the price back up everytime. in reality there is and will not be any new features uptades if you are reading this right now convert all your paycoin to btc whilst you can and move on because in the next few day price will hit 0.000001, we were forced to get paid in paycoins at the start so in the end all the work i have done costed them $86 where it should be $10000 range

very sad
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Who is "Jake"?


https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jake-abel/74/259/700/nl

Is this him?  Jake Abel?  I dunno.

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April 05, 2015, 11:02:54 PM
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https://hashtalk.org/topic/35750/if-paybase-was-shut-down-by-doj-there-would-be-a-doj-fbi-message-on-the-homepage/14

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If Paybase was shut down by the DOJ they would have taken control of the domain paybase.com. They would have replaced the homepage with a page that says Paybase was seized by the DOJ or that the FBI was investigating or whatever.

Since the homepage is normal we can be assured that the articles are false.

Are you all such lemmings that you believe everything you read in the "false" media?

Then further down, some asks GAWCEO directly if he's being investigated by SEC... no response yet.

Since this document ( http://www.scribd.com/doc/260708659/Securities-and-Exchange-Commission-Subpoena-of-GAW-Miners ) explicitly states "investigation" into GAW Miners, LLC ... wonder how he'll spin it?  Some on there said that it's a GOOD thing he's being investigated because that means that he's big enough for them to care about what he's doing.  Now, that's such a cute way of looking at it... bet the SEC wishes EVERYONE felt that way when they're investigated.

I have no idea if the following post is legit or not:

quick update

I have officially resigned from my duties @ gaw. DOJ is true they have come in and even confiscated my personal macbook air and galaxy note 4 mobile so yes i am going to take charges against gawminers, they even owe me for the last 4 for my work , the news has gone out to investors also and they are also taking action against gaw , sec have found hundreds of forged documents/emails. Matlack is also part of the scam and he is the sole owner of at east 5 prime controllers without paying a single cent. april 8 is when everything shuts down. Once I get my macbook back if i do i will post some documents that i saved which will show everyone the amount of corruption. i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up. when the price of paycoin goes down garza makes an announcement to bring the price back up everytime. in reality there is and will not be any new features uptades if you are reading this right now convert all your paycoin to btc whilst you can and move on because in the next few day price will hit 0.000001, we were forced to get paid in paycoins at the start so in the end all the work i have done costed them $86 where it should be $10000 range

very sad
Jake
im super sad that you watched the train leave the station and now your fooked. a few weeks ago we (BCT) were the fudsters killing the coin, now after 1400 pages of opinions, articles and "analysis", people are finding out its all true. Garza is a failure at business, brainwashing, and just being a decent human being. maybe we need to make a hashtag for twitter and get it ranked to everyone sees what kind of asshole he really is. #homerogarzathief or
#gawtrainwreck

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I have no idea if the following post is legit or not:
quick update

I have officially resigned from my duties @ gaw. DOJ is true they have come in and even confiscated my personal macbook air and galaxy note 4 mobile so yes i am going to take charges against gawminers, they even owe me for the last 4 for my work , the news has gone out to investors also and they are also taking action against gaw , sec have found hundreds of forged documents/emails. Matlack is also part of the scam and he is the sole owner of at east 5 prime controllers without paying a single cent. april 8 is when everything shuts down. Once I get my macbook back if i do i will post some documents that i saved which will show everyone the amount of corruption. i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up. when the price of paycoin goes down garza makes an announcement to bring the price back up everytime. in reality there is and will not be any new features uptades if you are reading this right now convert all your paycoin to btc whilst you can and move on because in the next few day price will hit 0.000001, we were forced to get paid in paycoins at the start so in the end all the work i have done costed them $86 where it should be $10000 range

very sad
Jake

Who is "Jake"?

If that's true about the paycoin payments and $85, the guy needs to start a complaint with the Dept of Labor over wage theft (for all who were paid that way) and in prep for a civil case so that can be in the works to try to get some funds out of the seizures because IF they can say garza sold even a few ounces of drugs along the way, they can try to seize ALL his personal assets for auction without regard to their value compared to amounts owed on fines. Between everyone who's going after garza, i'd be willing to bet his accounts are all frozen already, including any registered BTC trading firms. Frozen accounts... small consolation for all those people who waited weeks for their paybase accounts to unfreeze. Hopefully paybase is function now so they can at least get their BTC out of there.

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Is anybody else seeing a very clear pattern here?  We had coinfire yesterday outlining all the serious threats they have been receiving.  We had Jonah Dorman posting about threats and being followed by suspicious cars a week ago, and now this. (If authentic).

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" i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up."

Is anybody else seeing a very clear pattern here?  We had coinfire yesterday outlining all the serious threats they have been receiving.  We had Jonah Dorman posting about threats and being followed by suspicious cars a week ago.  Now this (If authentic).


i think i have watched this movie before.

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Is anybody else seeing a very clear pattern here?  We had coinfire yesterday outlining all the serious threats they have been receiving.  We had Jonah Dorman posting about threats and being followed by suspicious cars a week ago, and now this. (If authentic).

Well, if you look back at that email exchange with joe mordica (sp?) garza sounded pretty paranoid and bitchy... he had access to a heck of a lot of funds and the charming personality of a coke addict... remember the body guards in FL?  it would fit the movie plot if he was hiring 'private investigators' to harass people that had pissed him off. Guess it'll have to be jessica that sells the book and movie rights since josh won't be eligible to profit from his crimes. At this rate, maybe we should start a betting pool for when they try a TV series: "SVU-CryptoCrimes" I'm thinking Fall 2016.

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April 05, 2015, 11:32:03 PM
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I read back through his posts and he said that "Jake" is a fake name till he testifies. So, that would probably make Jake Abel the least likely candidate.  I'm hesitant to do any more guessing since the guy said he's asking for police protection until he's testified. If he gets people to convert to BTC with what ever little they have, then good on him. But, if what he said is true...

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April 05, 2015, 11:33:03 PM
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I see, those two tweets Homero did are to populate his new website:

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/josh-garza/8/824/874?trk=pub-pbmap

http://joshgarza.brandyourself.com/

Appears to be on a campaign to scrub the internet and control the flow of everything negative connected to his name:

https://brandyourself.com/

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BrandYourself is the first product that empowers you to
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April 05, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
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The reason is, that exchanges are run by greedy §&$"?%!*ers.
The fact that Crapsy, Trex and all the others did not delist it and instead kept and keep making money of this major scam should make people think. And it is not as if XPY is the only proven scam that has been pumped for weeks on those exchanges. Im surprised that BTER does not trade XPY, would be the perfect fit with their history of not only trading such coins but actively helping with the scams (e.g. BitBay).
None of these exchanges will ever see a single SAT fees from me.

I aggree. The fact that Cryptsy is still allowing trade with the scamcoin XPY made me rethink my use of that platform. Shame on them.


Both exchanges are trash and are only in it for the money and nothing else. Personally never used trex but ive had multiple bad experiences in the past with crypsy. I can't wait until Koinyx is finished honestly and put those two out of business (yes yes I know, conflict of interest statement  Roll Eyes ).


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" i am being served to provide evidence against gawminers at court however received countless threats from gawminers in relation to this i am heading to police to ask for protection until the court time is up."

Is anybody else seeing a very clear pattern here?  We had coinfire yesterday outlining all the serious threats they have been receiving.  We had Jonah Dorman posting about threats and being followed by suspicious cars a week ago, and now this. (If authentic).



I'm still waiting for mine lol (death threats).


Also I told "Jake" to reach out to coinfire twice in order to prove his identity.

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April 05, 2015, 11:47:17 PM
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I see, those two tweets Homero did are to populate his new website:

https://twitter.com/gawceo no longer exists? 

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April 05, 2015, 11:51:33 PM
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I see, those two tweets Homero did are to populate his new website:

https://twitter.com/gawceo no longer exists? 

I thought he was just banning me.

He should realize that Twitter will gladly comply with the DOJ.

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