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September 10, 2015, 06:27:53 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
I think they got the right to do it if players ignore and violate the policies. https://www.dadice.com/print?farmingAnti-Faucet Farming Policy
Da Dice management is determined to protect its system against faucet abuses and severe faucet farming, we thereby notify all our existing and upcoming members that while you're allowed to have multiple accounts on Da Dice platform, you're not allowed to use them for faucet farming as it is considered abuse.
While we do not prohibit fair use of faucet, we would like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos). We are not obliged in anyway to provide faucet and we reserve right to increase time spans for certain faucet farmers. Currently, faucet timer varies between 5 minutes (default) to as much as 30 minutes.
Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day.
Important: Faucet amounts offered by Da Dice are considered highest in industry, therefore betting of max. faucet amounts on payouts such as 5x or above (for payout to match min. tip amount requirement) is also considered farming and will cause timer increase for your account, or your account being suspended.
We are using algorithm analysis to automatically detect and flag accounts considered to be farming faucet or abusing it. If you believe your account has been wrongly flagged (i.e, false positive) or if you have given up idea of farming and want your faucet timer reset back to default (5 minutes), please contact our support.
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September 10, 2015, 06:41:46 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
I think they got the right to do it if players ignore and violate the policies. https://www.dadice.com/print?farmingAnti-Faucet Farming Policy
Da Dice management is determined to protect its system against faucet abuses and severe faucet farming, we thereby notify all our existing and upcoming members that while you're allowed to have multiple accounts on Da Dice platform, you're not allowed to use them for faucet farming as it is considered abuse.
While we do not prohibit fair use of faucet, we would like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos). We are not obliged in anyway to provide faucet and we reserve right to increase time spans for certain faucet farmers. Currently, faucet timer varies between 5 minutes (default) to as much as 30 minutes.
Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day.
Important: Faucet amounts offered by Da Dice are considered highest in industry, therefore betting of max. faucet amounts on payouts such as 5x or above (for payout to match min. tip amount requirement) is also considered farming and will cause timer increase for your account, or your account being suspended.
We are using algorithm analysis to automatically detect and flag accounts considered to be farming faucet or abusing it. If you believe your account has been wrongly flagged (i.e, false positive) or if you have given up idea of farming and want your faucet timer reset back to default (5 minutes), please contact our support. Yes, I sure never seen this document linked anywhere, and the TOS has changed since I stopped playing in the spring. But I've barely played lately and it just doesn't sit right with me, it's okay that DaDice won my BTC I deposited, when I get lucky I'm banned and withdrawals are not honored I find to be an aspect of your business practices I think the rest of the community should know about. Remember I was your customer but I'll never even consider depositing again nor advocating for DaDice as being a trustable service. I was even skeptical in chat when I won so much, really wish I would have known this up-front before I thought I won 9.5BTC only to have this happen. Not cool.
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LiQuidx
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September 10, 2015, 06:47:30 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
Is this true? Are you sure he didn't exploit it in some way?
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bsdunx
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September 10, 2015, 06:59:31 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
Is this true? Are you sure he didn't exploit it in some way? Hey Liquid asdfgh was me AKA UnixPunk from PD btw. It was legit play from faucet, I certainly had no idea that the act of playing from faucet was a bannable offence. I'm pretty bothered that I was given the impression that I was actually winning something, I'll get over it though. This could have been a great PR story to publicly announce of an extreme win, but this is the end result.
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ndnh
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September 10, 2015, 07:04:44 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
Is this true? Are you sure he didn't exploit it in some way? I have no idea. His account mush have been flagged by the algorithm. I doubt if everything he claimed is true, lol. If it is a false positive, all he has to do is report it to the Support. Yes, I sure never seen this document linked anywhere, and the TOS has changed since I stopped playing in the spring. But I've barely played lately and it just doesn't sit right with me, it's okay that DaDice won my BTC I deposited, when I get lucky I'm banned and withdrawals are not honored I find to be an aspect of your business practices I think the rest of the community should know about. Remember I was your customer but I'll never even consider depositing again nor advocating for DaDice as being a trustable service. I was even skeptical in chat when I won so much, really wish I would have known this up-front before I thought I won 9.5BTC only to have this happen. Not cool.
Anti-Faucet Farming Policy
Da Dice management is determined to protect its system against faucet abuses and severe faucet farming, we thereby notify all our existing and upcoming members that while you're allowed to have multiple accounts on Da Dice platform, you're not allowed to use them for faucet farming as it is considered abuse.
While we do not prohibit fair use of faucet, we would like to repeat that faucet is a complimentary tool for our players to test Da Dice and/or evaluate their playing strategies (which is a standard practice in several online casinos). We are not obliged in anyway to provide faucet and we reserve right to increase time spans for certain faucet farmers. Currently, faucet timer varies between 5 minutes (default) to as much as 30 minutes.
Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day.
Important: Faucet amounts offered by Da Dice are considered highest in industry, therefore betting of max. faucet amounts on payouts such as 5x or above (for payout to match min. tip amount requirement) is also considered farming and will cause timer increase for your account, or your account being suspended.
We are using algorithm analysis to automatically detect and flag accounts considered to be farming faucet or abusing it. If you believe your account has been wrongly flagged (i.e, false positive) or if you have given up idea of farming and want your faucet timer reset back to default (5 minutes), please contact our support. Terms stated above are fair. And it is kind of the standard practice around. Seen the same guy tipping each other after winning the minimum tip amount from faucet making a good amount of money from faucet? It is faucet abuse. The purpose of the faucet is different. I am sure you violated one of these. The algorithm spots it, and there is no guy sitting behind looking and banning all your bets. If you think you did not violate any conditions, and all the amounts have been rightly won,you can contact Support to get things fixed. Thanks ndnhc
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ndnh
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September 10, 2015, 07:08:12 AM |
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Hey Liquid asdfgh was me AKA UnixPunk from PD btw. It was legit play from faucet, I certainly had no idea that the act of playing from faucet was a bannable offence. I'm pretty bothered that I was given the impression that I was actually winning something, I'll get over it though. This could have been a great PR story to publicly announce of an extreme win, but this is the end result.
Hey, the act of playing from faucet is NOT an offence and will not result in getting your account banned or suspended. I did play using faucet (had no deposit made prior to that), and certainly didn't have any issues with it. Did you have any other account and did you tip each other with faucet won amounts? Faucet abuse will be caught by the algorithm, and if you feel your account has been wrongly suspended please contact Support.
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LiQuidx
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September 10, 2015, 07:12:13 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
Is this true? Are you sure he didn't exploit it in some way? Hey Liquid asdfgh was me AKA UnixPunk from PD btw. It was legit play from faucet, I certainly had no idea that the act of playing from faucet was a bannable offence. I'm pretty bothered that I was given the impression that I was actually winning something, I'll get over it though. This could have been a great PR story to publicly announce of an extreme win, but this is the end result. Hey there UP. I still don't get why you got banned. It says that wagering the max amount of faucet on x5 or above (in order to reach the tip requirement and tip with one bet i guess) will be considered farming. Was this the case?
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September 10, 2015, 07:13:59 AM |
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Hey there UP. I still don't get why you got banned. It says that wagering the max amount of faucet on x5 or above (in order to reach the tip requirement and tip with one bet i guess) will be considered farming. Was this the case?
Still he won't get banned if he did it just once or twice.
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September 10, 2015, 07:17:25 AM |
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I just love how DaDice banned one of it's first users who has deposited and lost in the past because they used the faucet and were exceedingly lucky.
Could've been a false alarm, AFAIK the "moderation" of accounts, if they are farming or not, is done by an algorithm, so something you did must've triggered it. You should contact support regarding this, I'm sure they'll honour your withdrawal request if they don't deem your account as farming. Care to share the bet that won you that big though?
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LiQuidx
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September 10, 2015, 07:18:01 AM |
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Hey there UP. I still don't get why you got banned. It says that wagering the max amount of faucet on x5 or above (in order to reach the tip requirement and tip with one bet i guess) will be considered farming. Was this the case?
Still he won't get banned if he did it just once or twice. Yeah I know.. I am asking if this was the case in general, like he repeated that in order to gather a larger balance and withdraw... Sorry for not making it more clear.
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September 10, 2015, 07:34:18 AM |
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with: I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ...
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September 10, 2015, 07:43:50 AM |
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with: I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ... what the.. you have scary luck there, can win up to 10BTC with just faucet.. amazing,
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September 10, 2015, 07:46:17 AM |
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with: I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ... You have some good luck there but I wouldn't be surprised if Dadice doesn't honor your withdrawal request as its in their terms of service there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only. And as far as I can understand, you made those 10btc all from just faucet.
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LiQuidx
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September 10, 2015, 07:47:43 AM |
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with: I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ... Based on the TOS what you did is not prohibited. You shouldn't have been banned in the first place.. You didn't farm the faucet, you just won from it. What it's not allowed is to wager the max faucet with a high multiplier (x5 and above), tip to another account and then repeat, accumulating this way a bigger balance. Correct me if i'm wrong but this is not the case here.
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September 10, 2015, 07:56:15 AM |
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I think I won a high payout with my faucet as a start, I have mailed support. I opened up a trouble ticket because multiple withdrawals were pending for some amount of time and I was banned shortly after support responded with:
I did do a high payout with my faucet as a start, which I did not have any idea was not allowed, I was not tipping min amount over and over, I won 0.015 or something, got that up to 0.69, issued withdraw for 0.6, played the 0.09 up to 10.45 BTC, issued 8.45BTC withdraw, played the remaining up to 5.75 BTC and then lost that. I've become a more cynical person today, If it sounds too good to be true ...
You have some good luck there but I wouldn't be surprised if Dadice doesn't honor your withdrawal request as its in their terms of service there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only. And as far as I can understand, you made those 10btc all from just faucet. I'm already of the opinion that they will not given the ban and all. And yes, I did not notice that addition to the TOS or would not have even wasted time collecting the faucet. It must have been added sometime between when I was playing in the spring and when I came back recently. Lesson learned, I just want others to know what to expect if they get as "lucky" as I did with the faucet.
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September 10, 2015, 11:20:47 AM Last edit: September 10, 2015, 11:57:22 AM by dadice |
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.
Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.
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September 10, 2015, 02:26:31 PM |
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.
Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.
How much BTC DaDice lost due to faucet abusers?
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September 10, 2015, 08:05:06 PM |
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.
Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.
Well at least you are publicly admitting that faucet rolls on high payout will not be honored and will result in a ban even if the person has deposited >1BTC in the past. I have been contacting my friends who I referred to DaDice in the past and they will also no longer make deposits on your site.
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September 10, 2015, 08:16:41 PM |
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Well, this part of the TOS was discussed here in this forum a while ago.
Reason why the account was suspended are the following faucet rolls: 198x, 9.9x, 24.75x, 99x, 202.0408x, 7.0714x, 6.6x, 5.2105x. Literally hundreds of such rolls has been made.
If you don't want users to claim the faucets too many times, why don't you add a cap on the daily claim or total claim? I think it would be a better approach than to block withdrawals as it should create less controversy. Just my 2 cents.
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September 10, 2015, 08:35:37 PM |
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is more time i see this problem to dadice. i have satoshi to account, click to bet, rollin for xx second, later rollin stop, don't appared a bet in my stat, but i have lose my satoshi. Why ? i have register a video and add to youtube https://youtu.be/wzO_-9mWiSQ
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