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i don't use faucet , is waste time, but don't like when site promote the faucet and later ban user for have won more. I think user of big dice site, like primedice,earn more of 10 btc to faucet in total, and i don't have see accuse of account closed. You don't like spend more for faucet user? Simply, stop faucet option or low a faucet to 200 satoshi.
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ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ? Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) LOL, just putting in what I think. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Admin already said the ban is as per the T&C and Anti-farming policy of Da Dice. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think you are talking about the pr one. what is the other??
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So he doesn't get his money because he used high multipliers? LOL. What is exactly the limit that you are "allowed" to win with faucet? 1 BTC? 0.1 BTC? Nothing?
If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.
ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.
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September 11, 2015, 08:07:40 AM |
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ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.
Yep, I am. What is your definition of faucet abuse? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Edit: Talk to you later.. Have to go.
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September 11, 2015, 08:08:46 AM |
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So he doesn't get his money because he used high multipliers? LOL. What is exactly the limit that you are "allowed" to win with faucet? 1 BTC? 0.1 BTC? Nothing?
If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.
ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.
I agree with you NLNico, what's the use of giving an increased faucet to players who wager a lot then ? To 'keep on testing' ? I've seen players on PD reaching a few btc from the faucet and cashing it out without issues. As long as they don't 'hack' or use an automated bot to abuse it. I don't see how claiming and betting on a high multiplier is against the TOS. lmao.
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September 11, 2015, 08:14:37 AM |
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ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.
Yep, I am. What is your definition of faucet abuse? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Edit: Talk to you later.. Have to go. I would say these options (depending on the details): If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.
If DaDice gives too much faucet money away, they should change their faucet payouts or even cancel their whole faucet program. But banning and stealing from the players who got lucky with it, is IMO very wrong.
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September 11, 2015, 08:16:41 AM |
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One sec. Conversations from dev. @asdfgh redeemed faucet 3935 times total. He has had been playing against Faucet Farming policy described on site. Normally people come under review when they withdraw, since there are hundreds of people doing this everyday. Apart from that TOS clause 4.6 clearly explains our policy.4. Your Representations and Warranties 4.6 there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only. even if he withdrew 0.001 instead of 10 he would be suspended like all othersEdit: that is from original source. I was assuming it was because of multiplier or something. It isn't. The system flagged his account for faucet abuse. @NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 11, 2015, 08:30:13 AM |
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@NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That is simply unfair. The motivation given by DaDice before my reply was " he used high multipliers" and " is against TOS". These are not acceptable arguments for banning and stealing from someone. I always give arguments when I say something and don't simply accuse sites or people without arguments. Still 3935 times is unclear to me. Did he use multiple accounts? IMO the faucet functionality is the problem. If he was able to get "too many times" (whatever that amount is?) faucet claims on 1 account, then the time limit should simply be bigger?! So if he was able to get it every minute, maybe put a limit of an hour? Etc. If he was never supposed to get "so many times faucet claims", then the system should be the one to control this. Seems fairly easy to me. If he tries to cheat it with multiple accounts, THEN I could agree he was wrong. Also curious in what timeframe these 3935 times was. Like I said, I could see "automated faucet claiming" as a fair argument against "farming", and in that case I think timeframe is relevant.
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September 11, 2015, 12:12:49 PM |
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One sec. Conversations from dev. @asdfgh redeemed faucet 3935 times total. He has had been playing against Faucet Farming policy described on site. Normally people come under review when they withdraw, since there are hundreds of people doing this everyday. Apart from that TOS clause 4.6 clearly explains our policy.4. Your Representations and Warranties 4.6 there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only. even if he withdrew 0.001 instead of 10 he would be suspended like all othersEdit: that is from original source. I was assuming it was because of multiplier or something. It isn't. The system flagged his account for faucet abuse. @NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) 90% of those claims were this spring, I also deposited > 5BTC into dadice on my various accounts, losing 1.76BTC on asdfgh alone.
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agreeing with NicoNL on this topic.
also, it appears that dadice might be running out of funds. they haven't made any net profit with the site itself and are actively trying to sell it.
otherwise it doesnt make much sense, why they wouldnt honor such a win.
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I would not object to being interviewed by any crypto-currency related publications on this matter.
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September 11, 2015, 12:43:25 PM Last edit: September 11, 2015, 12:58:41 PM by ndnhc |
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@NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That is simply unfair. The motivation given by DaDice before my reply was " he used high multipliers" and " is against TOS". These are not acceptable arguments for banning and stealing from someone. I always give arguments when I say something and don't simply accuse sites or people without arguments. Still 3935 times is unclear to me. Did he use multiple accounts? IMO the faucet functionality is the problem. If he was able to get "too many times" (whatever that amount is?) faucet claims on 1 account, then the time limit should simply be bigger?! So if he was able to get it every minute, maybe put a limit of an hour? Etc. If he was never supposed to get "so many times faucet claims", then the system should be the one to control this. Seems fairly easy to me. If he tries to cheat it with multiple accounts, THEN I could agree he was wrong. Also curious in what timeframe these 3935 times was. Like I said, I could see "automated faucet claiming" as a fair argument against "farming", and in that case I think timeframe is relevant. Sorry for being early. Figured out I got some more time. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, dev is the one who is taking actions on such matters, so it is not about multipliers or anything . He admits to using multi-accounts too: 90% of those claims were this spring, I also deposited > 5BTC into dadice on my various accounts, losing 1.76BTC on asdfgh alone.
stuff.
![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) @bsdunx you can argue with Da Dice. There are some people around here who is dying to do something to Da Dice. So, may be talk to them privately? Dev may not know when you made the faucet claims unless he went that deep, etc. So, though the chances are thin, you can still talk to DD guys for a good explanation. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Sorry for being early. Figured out I got some more time. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, dev is the one who is taking actions on such matters, so it is not about multipliers or anything . He admits to using multi-accounts too: 90% of those claims were this spring, I also deposited > 5BTC into dadice on my various accounts, losing 1.76BTC on asdfgh alone.
I deposited BTC into my other accounts which I have not used for 3+ months since the deposits on them ...
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I deposited BTC into my other accounts which I have not used for 3+ months since the deposits on them ...
Still the system discovered multiple accounts from one IP. Secondly of course using high multipliers are another reason as well to get banned, as stated in our Anti-Faucet Farming Policy https://www.dadice.com/print?farming. This policy is there for months and has been discussed here before. Almost daily accounts are getting suspended and it doesn't matter what the amount supposed to be withdrawn is. agreeing with NicoNL on this topic.
also, it appears that dadice might be running out of funds. they haven't made any net profit with the site itself and are actively trying to sell it.
otherwise it doesnt make much sense, why they wouldnt honor such a win.
No we don't run out of funds, we have just concluded the sale of dadice and are currently in a transitional phase.
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September 11, 2015, 02:59:11 PM |
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I deposited BTC into my other accounts which I have not used for 3+ months since the deposits on them ...
Still the system discovered multiple accounts from one IP. Secondly of course using high multipliers are another reason as well to get banned, as stated in our Anti-Faucet Farming Policy https://www.dadice.com/print?farming. This policy is there for months and has been discussed here before. Almost daily accounts are getting suspended and it doesn't matter what the amount supposed to be withdrawn is. agreeing with NicoNL on this topic.
also, it appears that dadice might be running out of funds. they haven't made any net profit with the site itself and are actively trying to sell it.
otherwise it doesnt make much sense, why they wouldnt honor such a win.
No we don't run out of funds, we have just concluded the sale of dadice and are currently in a transitional phase. Say what you want, I've never had a regulated casino comp me and then turn around and say I was breaking rules after making a big win. As long as there is a faucet on DaDice I will make it very clear to people that it's pointless to use. You've already lost 3 customers over this, enjoy.
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Say what you want, I've never had a regulated casino comp me and then turn around and say I was breaking rules after making a big win. As long as there is a faucet on DaDice I will make it very clear to people that it's pointless to use. You've already lost 3 customers over this, enjoy.
Well there are rules of course and they are visible to each participant and clearly pointed out. If you consider your practice a fair one, to use our faucet to try out our site, then so be it. 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Secondly, if you had read our rules you would have read the following: Please note that we also reserve right to ban all accounts and confiscate any amount of balance (resulted from faucet farming), if we find any user involved in severe faucet abuse, e.g. using multiple accounts and aliases farming faucet throughout the day. (see above) and: Faucet amounts offered by Da Dice are considered highest in industry, therefore betting of max. faucet amounts on payouts such as 5x or above (for payout to match min. tip amount requirement) is also considered farming and will cause timer increase for your account, or your account being suspended.So it is not that we made up some new rules because you were winning a few bitcoin. You have abused our faucet and our system figured it out.
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i like your faucet with levels it gives me a chance to win money
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THE JACKPOT IS WAITING FOR A WINNER!!!
The total has bounced back to 1.10252488 BTC
One of you lucky rollers will soon win it! Will it be your turn?
Remember to roll a 0.00 for this one and of course have the bet ID and timestamp as primes
Good luck Jackpot hunters!
Keep Rollin.
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i like your faucet with levels it gives me a chance to win money
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September 11, 2015, 03:40:11 PM |
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Nice site.... With lots of users.... And a 100% FAIR SITE THERE IS NO doubt that it will gain success..... Have played couple of bets and i extremely prefer this site when it comes to play bitcoin dice games.... Hope it runs like this forever ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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