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[pseudonymdude]

I'm looking at the FCT chart and see they had quite a long period with 0-5 BTC daily volume, and now they have 2K. Maybe we'll see this for VNL sometime, maybe not. The thing that bothers me is that FCT has been around for only about 4 months. And all altcoins that had huge pumps which I remember, reached their ATH price during 6 months since launch, all of them. Do you remember any exceptions to this rule (after 2013 BTC pump)?

edit: Initially read this wrong so updated links to things that made sense.

I mean there are some examples:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/#charts
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/counterparty/#charts

And these two that are the more ridiculous:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/rubycoin/#charts
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/faircoin/#charts

Also, remember coins like DASH and DOGE and others were launched during euphoria phase of crypto with lots of easily manipulated traders.  Now traders are not quite as ridiculous with their cash, but the long-term ones aren't around to see the potential of this coin.  Maybe they'll come back or advertising/someone influential can bring BTC holders back to an altcoin.  We'll see.

[Hyena]

Hello everyone in this thread. Today someone posted a C++ job advertisement on the bitcoin's block chain:
http://cryptograffiti.info/?txnr=4054
the above link finally guides you here: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/284/job-listings

So, out of curiosity I sent my CV to that John Connor dude. I have 10 years of C and C++ development experience and turned out it didn't satisfy John's needs (for whatever the actual reason was). His e-mails were rather cocky and his reasoning is sort of alien to me from the software developer's point of view. For example, if I was to look for a C++ programmer, I wouldn't immediately discard someone for 10 years of experience as if it was not enough. A good lead programmer chooses their team by the actual skills of people (testing them if needed) not just blatantly stating strange stuff such as "university experience does not count".

Since I'm also a cryptocurrency investor, I started to investigate whether Vanillacoin is worth investment. Here's one article about it that I found particularly interesting:
http://www.cryptocollectorsclub.com/vanillacoin-secrets.html

the dev is a bit of an egomaniac, perhaps just doesn't care about the community or gaining fans early on?

I laughed when I read this because it proves that John Connor is actually an arrogant person and it was not just me who perceived him as such

I then stumbled upon this reddit section:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VanillaCoin/comments/3b25f6/welcome_to_the_uncensored_vanillacoin_subreddit/

It doesn't paint a nice picture of neither Vanillacoin nor John Connor. I was going to buy some vanillacoins but after reading this stuff I am having second thoughts. Smells like Paycoin all over again. Any reason why this criticism should be discarded? I mean, this could all be just unintentional FUD by me. In that case, prove me wrong.

[pseudonymdude]

Hello everyone in this thread. Today someone posted a C++ job advertisement on the bitcoin's block chain:
http://cryptograffiti.info/?txnr=4054
the above link finally guides you here: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/284/job-listings

So, out of curiosity I sent my CV to that John Connor dude. I have 10 years of C and C++ development experience and turned out it didn't satisfy John's needs (for whatever the actual reason was). His e-mails were rather cocky and his reasoning is sort of alien to me from the software developer's point of view. For example, if I was to look for a C++ programmer, I wouldn't immediately discard someone for 10 years of experience as if it was not enough. A good lead programmer chooses their team by the actual skills of people (testing them if needed) not just blatantly stating strange stuff such as "university experience does not count".

Since I'm also a cryptocurrency investor, I started to investigate whether Vanillacoin is worth investment. Here's one article about it that I found particularly interesting:
http://www.cryptocollectorsclub.com/vanillacoin-secrets.html

the dev is a bit of an egomaniac, perhaps just doesn't care about the community or gaining fans early on?

I laughed when I read this because it proves that John Connor is actually an arrogant person and it was not just me who perceived him as such

I then stumbled upon this reddit section:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VanillaCoin/comments/3b25f6/welcome_to_the_uncensored_vanillacoin_subreddit/

It doesn't paint a nice picture of neither Vanillacoin nor John Connor. I was going to buy some vanillacoins but after reading this stuff I am having second thoughts. Smells like Paycoin all over again. Any reason why this criticism should be discarded? I mean, this could all be just unintentional FUD by me. In that case, prove me wrong.

The /r/Vanillacoin troll sold his VNL at .00003000 BTC and was bitter.  Someone on the vanillacoin IRC knew him.  I was there from the beginning and the distribution was fair.  Now, he has a job elsewhere and doesn't bother to come back.  The accelerated few days was when we switched from CPU mining to GPU mining.

CryptoClub is another scammer, like many on here, who has been involved in a lot of coins, most recently EXP.

If you look, you will see the quality of the code is superior to all others.  No BS.

Pasting this:

Again, if it was a clone coin, it wouldn't be the only coin other than Bitcoin that Poloniex only requires 1 confirmation for: You can test this by going here: https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnCurrencies and searching for minconf":1," but you already knew that and the following:

If it was a clone coin, it wouldn't be the only coin with native gui interface as opposed to a qt wallet.

If it was a clone coin, it wouldn't be the only coin that gives you a random port if you don't have a config.dat

If it was a clone coin, it wouldn't be the only coin that automatically burns tx fees.


It has the staking mobile apps already, and the iOS app is already on Apple TestFlight Beta Testing.  Just pm xCore if you want an invite.


Yes, john-connor's personality puts some people off.  You just have to invest in the code.

[heartastack]

The guy sends his CV in to work on the coin and yet doesn't know fuk- all about it. Yeh...

[Hyena]

The guy sends his CV in to work on the coin and yet doesn't know fuk- all about it. Yeh...

Hey I understand your frustration but when I first saw the advertisement and sent the CV I even didn't know it was about a coin development. To be honest, I wouldn't have sent it if I knew it was about a coin The job offering does not say anything about the nature of the project, unfortunately.

...

Yes, john-connor's personality puts some people off.  You just have to invest in the code.

Ok that explains it pretty well.

As for the personality and egomania, I have a pretty bad personality myself too and that's why I wouldn't discard John Connor just because of his personality

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude, so ironically, in this situation John Connor's personality actually made it more plausible for his code to be good

I read that Vanillacoin aims to become anonymous. Is there any technical information available how it attempts to achieve anonymous transactions? So far all the coins that claim to be anonymous have actually a flawed anonymity which I wouldn't even call anonymity.

[redjedievolution]

I don't know what happens, maybe is the asperger, or all of this genius out there have that kind of attitude... but look at linus torvalds... look at steve jobs... etc... all of them are genius doing what they love/know... but people talk shit about them...

All is very curious  


This paper is the starting of dark++ and vanilla becoming anonymous
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/chainblender.pdf

The guy sends his CV in to work on the coin and yet doesn't know fuk- all about it. Yeh...

Hey I understand your frustration but when I first saw the advertisement and sent the CV I even didn't know it was about a coin development. To be honest, I wouldn't have sent it if I knew it was about a coin The job offering does not say anything about the nature of the project, unfortunately.

...

Yes, john-connor's personality puts some people off.  You just have to invest in the code.

Ok that explains it pretty well.

As for the personality and egomania, I have a pretty bad personality myself too and that's why I wouldn't discard John Connor just because of his personality

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude, so ironically, in this situation John Connor's personality actually made it more plausible for his code to be good

I read that Vanillacoin aims to become anonymous. Is there any technical information available how it attempts to achieve anonymous transactions? So far all the coins that claim to be anonymous have actually a flawed anonymity which I wouldn't even call anonymity.

[Hyena]

I don't know what happens, maybe is the asperger, or all of this genius out there have that kind of attitude... but look at linus torvalds... look at steve jobs... etc... all of them are genius doing what they love/know... but people talk shit about them...

Ever since Steve Jobs died of cancer I have no problem with him any more, he got what he deserved

This paper is the starting of dark++ and vanilla becoming anonymous
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/master/chainblender.pdf

I reviewed it and it tells a lot about John Connor. Like seriously, who puts a starting bracket on a new line? It's the ancient way of coding. My grandpa coded like that . But the fact that he uses C++11 code itself to explain his ideas tells us he has no academic background and/or he is having problems explaining himself (+1 for asperger).

But the real problem with his anonymity solution is that it is not novel. Ever since bitcoin was created brilliant minds have been trying to enhance the protocol so that transactions would be truly anonymous. All that has been achieved is by the means of mixing and other messy work with cryptography. Sure it gives you slightly more anonymity than bitcoin in its natural form but it doesn't solve the problem, it only pushes it farther into the future. What I am anxious to see is a new paradigm in the domain of transaction anonymity. Something that would be intrinsic to the protocol. Perhaps it is impossible, I don't know that, but I do know that homomorphic encryption and projects such as sharemind could hold the key to truly anonymous transactions.

[heartastack]

You'll get a job one day mate, keep trying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJQEl5vcAo

[Jookly]

Oh ya man not getting jobs you don't want is just the worst isn't it?  John must have really bad judgment to pass over such a level headed and well informed candidate.   

[Hyena]

Oh ya man not getting jobs you don't want is just the worst isn't it?  John must have really bad judgment to pass over such a level headed and well informed candidate.   

Yes, he must have a damn good gut feeling.

[redjedievolution]

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job   You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

[Hyena]

Making jokes of writting brackets at the beginning of lines, as if that had something to do with quality of code. Do you know who Dennis Ritchie is? Then have a look at his code.

Someone didn't get the joke.

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job  You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

Okey okey enough of this bullshit already. I admit, I was not looking for a job as I am already employed and living good life. I was just curious what salary the guy would offer, who knows --- maybe it would have been worth it. So I literally threw in the e-mail as if I didn't care and I didn't, so you are right. I got what I deserved and I'm upset only because the guy doesn't respect university experience and doesn't understand the fact that 10 years of experience and 15 years of experience are not that different. I have seen a C programmer (old fuck, 40 years old) with 20 years of experience who writes just horrific code. In fact, I was the one who insisted my team lead not to hire that guy. So anyone with a hiring strategy similar to John Connor's is either inexperienced or has some other beef with the candidate.

[heartastack]

Is this real life?

[jimlite]

Uh oh. 40 years old is an old fuck? I admit that when I was 20 I was a great coder. I went a different direction in my life, and could never code now like when I was young, however as a 20 year old I (and all 20 year olds) have not enough experience behind them or wisdom that only comes with age.  If you are just going to code Halo 5, you don't need experience or wisdom. If you are going to code a game changing crypto currency that has broad economic and privacy issues, it sure helps to not be 20.

[bitcoin carpenter]

Nice to see you in here hyena!!
Old school bit coin talk members are always welcome.

[luckygenough56]

lol, we poor humans, are bitter predictable ego driven creatures 

[YAdaminer]

Making jokes of writting brackets at the beginning of lines, as if that had something to do with quality of code. Do you know who Dennis Ritchie is? Then have a look at his code.

Someone didn't get the joke.

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job  You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

Okey okey enough of this bullshit already. I admit, I was not looking for a job as I am already employed and living good life. I was just curious what salary the guy would offer, who knows --- maybe it would have been worth it. So I literally threw in the e-mail as if I didn't care and I didn't, so you are right. I got what I deserved and I'm upset only because the guy doesn't respect university experience and doesn't understand the fact that 10 years of experience and 15 years of experience are not that different. I have seen a C programmer (old fuck, 40 years old) with 20 years of experience who writes just horrific code. In fact, I was the one who insisted my team lead not to hire that guy. So anyone with a hiring strategy similar to John Connor's is either inexperienced or has some other beef with the candidate.

Huh, well truth will set you free, but...
... if you are employed as good coder or team leader than you should know what salary is about but the way you act here no matter what your coding skills are and experience is I wouldnt give you the job not even if you would accept to get paid in your future value of BTC. Strategy "I'll FUD you to death" unless you hire me is not the way to go Sherlock.

[redjedievolution]

Hyena, you act like a hyena.

You lied in everything you said since you started writing here...

You ... the pro master, with big ego, and big knowledge, said to yourself... "john connor hiring 10 years coder like me? the motherfucker coder hyena of the universe?" lets see how much he will pay me?

And you found another ego master of the universe, more motherfucker than you... which discarded you in few seconds... And you are angry now?  

hahahah mate! all of this conversation is so funny, is like a kiddie conversation with lies, biggest cocks, etc...

 

Making jokes of writting brackets at the beginning of lines, as if that had something to do with quality of code. Do you know who Dennis Ritchie is? Then have a look at his code.

Someone didn't get the joke.

1- Why a good programmer with 10 years of experience like you is searching job   You must be working in a big company!!
2- You didn't searched anything about the job you was sending CV???. Do you send your CV like mailshot???

dude your facts talk before you. If you judge others, others will judge you... Is the cause-efect.

Don't judge to don't be judged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaSRKP8Dho&feature=youtu.be&t=12

Good programmers such as myself often come with a cocky attitude

Okey okey enough of this bullshit already. I admit, I was not looking for a job as I am already employed and living good life. I was just curious what salary the guy would offer, who knows --- maybe it would have been worth it. So I literally threw in the e-mail as if I didn't care and I didn't, so you are right. I got what I deserved and I'm upset only because the guy doesn't respect university experience and doesn't understand the fact that 10 years of experience and 15 years of experience are not that different. I have seen a C programmer (old fuck, 40 years old) with 20 years of experience who writes just horrific code. In fact, I was the one who insisted my team lead not to hire that guy. So anyone with a hiring strategy similar to John Connor's is either inexperienced or has some other beef with the candidate.

[Colonel Crouton]

Hello everyone in this thread. Today someone posted a C++ job advertisement on the bitcoin's block chain:
http://cryptograffiti.info/?txnr=4054
the above link finally guides you here: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/284/job-listings

So, out of curiosity I sent my CV to that John Connor dude. I have 10 years of C and C++ development experience and turned out it didn't satisfy John's needs (for whatever the actual reason was). His e-mails were rather cocky and his reasoning is sort of alien to me from the software developer's point of view. For example, if I was to look for a C++ programmer, I wouldn't immediately discard someone for 10 years of experience as if it was not enough. A good lead programmer chooses their team by the actual skills of people (testing them if needed) not just blatantly stating strange stuff such as "university experience does not count".

Since I'm also a cryptocurrency investor, I started to investigate whether Vanillacoin is worth investment. Here's one article about it that I found particularly interesting:
http://www.cryptocollectorsclub.com/vanillacoin-secrets.html

the dev is a bit of an egomaniac, perhaps just doesn't care about the community or gaining fans early on?

I laughed when I read this because it proves that John Connor is actually an arrogant person and it was not just me who perceived him as such

I then stumbled upon this reddit section:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VanillaCoin/comments/3b25f6/welcome_to_the_uncensored_vanillacoin_subreddit/

It doesn't paint a nice picture of neither Vanillacoin nor John Connor. I was going to buy some vanillacoins but after reading this stuff I am having second thoughts. Smells like Paycoin all over again. Any reason why this criticism should be discarded? I mean, this could all be just unintentional FUD by me. In that case, prove me wrong.

I can lurk no longer in this thread. To this post, I must reply.

WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT KIND OF PERSONALITY THE DEV HAS??

He doesn't like your 10 yrs experience. That doesn't matter. It's more likely he wants someone with this fancy network programming experience anyway, which is unlikely that you have.

Lots of talented people are painfully arrogant. You know why? Because everyone they interact with is technically incompetent by their standards and it gets a little frustrating.

If anyone sells because John Connor doesn't make a good guest at a dinner party, then they deserve to lose any and all money they lose. And they probably lose it on a regular basis.

[Colonel Crouton]

I read that Vanillacoin aims to become anonymous. Is there any technical information available how it attempts to achieve anonymous transactions? So far all the coins that claim to be anonymous have actually a flawed anonymity which I wouldn't even call anonymity.

There's a whitepaper. I'd point you to it but according to crypto gurus I've talked to, it's too thin on details. Maybe I'll send one here to say why.