[UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative

[HCLivess]

John lives here?

https://www.google.cz/maps/place/The+Tate+Luxury+Apartments/@40.7483678,-74.0074914,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c259b81e2176d7:0x677f7d14e5c38003?hl=en

Tech Name: John Connor
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 535 West 23rd St.
Tech Street: N6E
Tech City: New York
Tech State/Province: New York
Tech Postal Code: 10011
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.6462417959

can I call him?

[ancientcoins]

those are some expensive apartments

[etoque]

John lives here?

https://www.google.cz/maps/place/The+Tate+Luxury+Apartments/@40.7483678,-74.0074914,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c259b81e2176d7:0x677f7d14e5c38003?hl=en

Tech Name: John Connor
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 535 West 23rd St.
Tech Street: N6E
Tech City: New York
Tech State/Province: New York
Tech Postal Code: 10011
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.6462417959

can I call him?

I bet he's more from europe or australia,or he's a night bird if he was from north america lol !

[BadAss.Sx]

John lives here?

https://www.google.cz/maps/place/The+Tate+Luxury+Apartments/@40.7483678,-74.0074914,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c259b81e2176d7:0x677f7d14e5c38003?hl=en

Tech Name: John Connor
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 535 West 23rd St.
Tech Street: N6E
Tech City: New York
Tech State/Province: New York
Tech Postal Code: 10011
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.6462417959

can I call him?

Now we know you are a Czech

[HCLivess]

John lives here?

https://www.google.cz/maps/place/The+Tate+Luxury+Apartments/@40.7483678,-74.0074914,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c259b81e2176d7:0x677f7d14e5c38003?hl=en

Tech Name: John Connor
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 535 West 23rd St.
Tech Street: N6E
Tech City: New York
Tech State/Province: New York
Tech Postal Code: 10011
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.6462417959

can I call him?

Now we know you are a Czech

In fact I'm so doxxed it's not funny

[dygus]

retweet please

https://twitter.com/kopaczpl1/status/678130733106511872

[goldmaxx]

Are you sure vnl is about to added on btc38?

Regards

Goldmaxx

[dygus]

Are you sure vnl is about to added on btc38?

Regards

Goldmaxx

Yeap

[BadAss.Sx]

Tell me more about btc38 please. They told me they will look at it, nothing more.

[hughbt]

It's about to be added since august. Unless you are CEO of btc38 you don't know shit. The thing with those exchanges is that they will not add a coin unless there is stable, high volume or you pay them. Truth is that you can send as many requests as you want, it's not going to make a difference.  Maybe after the next updates VNL will gain some momentum and they will add it.

[ancientcoins]

It's about to be added since august. Unless you are CEO of btc38 you don't know shit. The thing with those exchanges is that they will not add a coin unless there is stable, high volume or you pay them. Truth is that you can send as many requests as you want, it's not going to make a difference.  Maybe after the next updates VNL will gain some momentum and they will add it.

john connor has said himself that he was contacted by them to learn how to add it to there exchange guess they wanna do 1 confirmation. considering the size of the exchange, its really important to get it right if they are to do 1 conf

[hughbt]

But that was like 3 months ago? Vanilla had >100 BTC trading volumes/day back then. He even said that polo didn't want to add it to margin trading since there is low volume and it doesn't surprise me. Think what you would do as an exchange owner. Why would you add a coin with 3BTC daily vol?

[YAdaminer]

IMO this thing with exchanges can be observed from 2 sides, side of VNL community and side of exchanges.
For sure that community would like to see VNL trading on more exchanges cause it brings more visibility but exchange should see their interest in adding not only because od earnings but also because of marketing point cause adding VNL to exchange requires certain level of knowledge and those who can implement VNL trading could/should be trusted as competent ones. Those of us who are here from early VNL days still remember ccex fiasco, also cryptopia had some special requests which, I think, were basically search for excuse to not add VNL because of their lack of knowledge.
Basically, message to exchanges:
If you can add VNL you could be trusted. If not, you won't see me trading at your exchange.

[dygus]

It's about to be added since august. Unless you are CEO of btc38 you don't know shit. The thing with those exchanges is that they will not add a coin unless there is stable, high volume or you pay them. Truth is that you can send as many requests as you want, it's not going to make a difference.  Maybe after the next updates VNL will gain some momentum and they will add it.

If you're so fucking wise, tell me why they add tagcoin, worldcoin, megacoin or digitalcoin in 2013.

..... I guess you don't know, so I gonna tell you.... trusted developer with real ideas for his coin/project.

[hughbt]

It's about to be added since august. Unless you are CEO of btc38 you don't know shit. The thing with those exchanges is that they will not add a coin unless there is stable, high volume or you pay them. Truth is that you can send as many requests as you want, it's not going to make a difference.   Maybe after the next updates VNL will gain some momentum and they will add it.

If you're so fucking wise, tell me why they add tagcoin, worldcoin, megacoin or digitalcoin in 2013.

..... I guess you don't know, so I gonna tell you.... trusted developer with real ideas for his coin/project.

I've already said why - high volumes(huge pumps at the end of 2013), or they simply paid them to add the coin... You can have the best, innovative coin, if no one is trading it there is no incentive for an exchange owner to list it(I'm not talking about VNL, it's just a general example) - it's that simple. Why would exchange owner waste time and money to list such a coin? I think you'll agree with that. IMO they will add it after the release of darkpp, it will bring a lot of attention to VNL.

[wasref]

It's about to be added since august. Unless you are CEO of btc38 you don't know shit. The thing with those exchanges is that they will not add a coin unless there is stable, high volume or you pay them. Truth is that you can send as many requests as you want, it's not going to make a difference.   Maybe after the next updates VNL will gain some momentum and they will add it.

If you're so fucking wise, tell me why they add tagcoin, worldcoin, megacoin or digitalcoin in 2013.

..... I guess you don't know, so I gonna tell you.... trusted developer with real ideas for his coin/project.

I've already said why - high volumes(huge pumps at the end of 2013), or they simply paid them to add the coin... You can have the best, innovative coin, if no one is trading it there is no incentive for an exchange owner to list it(I'm not talking about VNL, it's just a general example) - it's that simple. Why would exchange owner waste time and money to list such a coin? I think you'll agree with that. IMO they will add it after the release of darkpp, it will bring a lot of attention to VNL.

even so the fact that john connor said btc38 are going to list vnl coin and they learning how to intergrate it is enough for me, john connor wouldn't make that statement if btc38 hadnt told him

sit back im convinced it will be added before darkpp release, why would they add it after when the volume will alot higher when darkpp releases

[Riseman]

It's not always so obvious. For example, Bitfinex delisted DASH quite recently and missed huge volumes of DASH dumps during August-October. Maybe it's some sort of political thing or some plans they have in mind which we don't know.

[john-connor]

When we started discussion with BTC38 daily volume was high. I highly doubt there will be any new exchanges or markets until the daily volume is able to hold steady 2-3x what it is today as well as strong support from the community in going after new markets/exchanges. I already discussed this on the official forums regarding USDT and also on other occasions regarding margin trading. If you want more exchanges the daily volume must increase because exchanges are in the money making business. This is not just fact but also common sense. I estimate we need at least 100 new investors to obtain and sustain the required volume but this will not happen until the current BTC bull run ends. Lastly if you are following this thread to be kept up to speed you may want to consider the official forums or http://forum.bitcoin.com/vanillacoin/ because nothing official gets posted here and the ANN is months outdated regarding the project. This thread has beed reduced to nothing more than speculation, rumors and weak FUD.

Thank you for your support.

[STEALTHMODE]

I think this forum ANN is visited a lot(just search vanillacoin in google and it's the first result) and therefore is important for a lot of newcomers(potential buyers) who can very quickly see what VNL is all about and i think Traumschiff did a great job on the first page. Very clear and simple layout. What updates are we missing on here? I read every twitter message and every official forum.

I wanted to thank MonsterZeroPrice for his tip to buy factom!Made some nice profit. Where is he by the way? In search for his precious?

And Icebreaker is lost too? To much ice?

Hopefully we see some developments that will be seen by the rest of the world. I know it's already being noticed by some coders who find the chainblender very interesting but still too little information, but maybe....

[pseudonymdude]

I think this forum ANN is visited a lot(just search vanillacoin in google and it's the first result) and therefore is important for a lot of newcomers(potential buyers) who can very quickly see what VNL is all about and i think Traumschiff did a great job on the first page. Very clear and simple layout. What updates are we missing on here? I read every twitter message and every official forum.

I wanted to thank MonsterZeroPrice for his tip to buy factom!Made some nice profit. Where is he by the way? In search for his precious?

And Icebreaker is lost too? To much ice?

Hopefully we see some developments that will be seen by the rest of the world. I know it's already being noticed by some coders who find the chainblender very interesting but still too little information, but maybe....

Yeah, probably 90%+ of people are introduced to VNL through bitcointalk, and it will stay that way until we want to put hundreds or thousands into aggressive marketing.  No other altcoin forum has much traffic from people who have access to bitcoin right now.

It's fine to only announce on talk.vanillacoin.net and http://forum.bitcoin.com/vanillacoin/ but this thread should be maintained and traumschiff is doing a great job!  When/if I see him on IRC again, I'll give him a tip.