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December 12, 2015, 07:04:02 PM
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How many VNL coins flood the market through mining and staking every day?

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December 12, 2015, 07:09:33 PM
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Can you push the coin to here, please?
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

This won't happen anymore and they are irrelevant as an exchange.

Why?

This was the topic where they asked for some help regarding the code: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/228/how-to-set-rpc-user-pass-and-ssl-settings/9

Since then they deleted their account from talk.vanillacoin.net together with their messages. To sum it up, cryptopia wanted wallet/RPC changes that John said would cause security holes and that the way the wallet handles RPC is the most secure (Poloniex and Bittrex had no problem making it work) and Cryptopia went into an argument regarding it which didn't get positive responses from the community. Also they asked for these after accepting paid votes/donations meaning they did no research prior.

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December 12, 2015, 07:13:54 PM
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No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.

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December 12, 2015, 07:50:31 PM
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No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.
Thanks for your reply, would love to hear some additional info from John about potential bloating!

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December 12, 2015, 08:24:25 PM
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No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.
Thanks for your reply, would love to hear some additional info from John about potential bloating!

Reposted the question here: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/277/chainblender/2

John is more likely to answer technical questions on the official forums.

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December 12, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
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No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

Not sure if this is true for the upcoming chainblender, but before ZT was implemented together with the UDP layer integration John was talking about compressed data and packages (through UDP). I'm pretty sure he will solve a potential bloating problem before doing a final implementation since he is a perfectionist Smiley

It will be a mixer yes, but a very advanced one as it seems.

yeah! a time ago I told to John that a mixer did not seems to me as something good because they are centralized and he said in vanilla the mixer will be DECENTRALIZED  Grin
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December 12, 2015, 09:30:04 PM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?
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December 12, 2015, 10:02:27 PM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL
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December 12, 2015, 10:28:19 PM
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waiting for a high on clams, all my profit coming towards vnl 3btc profit yet hope i see 0.01 on clams and 0.01btc on vnl too
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December 12, 2015, 10:31:16 PM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?
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December 12, 2015, 10:41:43 PM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

not cloud. cold storage.

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December 12, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
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You're fu..ing amazing.
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?

That's funny. People here are acting like they are big investors. "O M G :O :O You are not diversifying? Its #1 rule." It's not a fricking Wall Street, you're not buying bonds to earn 4% per year, it's a casino. What do you want to diversify? Your risk is 100% on whatever coin you invest. Especially when you invest in altcoins, because you also have to follow bitcoin's price. Information assymetry is huuuge. Just decide how much you want to risk and diversify between crypto and other investments. Find a coin with best risk/reward ratio, take a gamble and don't hold it for too long.

VNL is a great investment. I don't really see it going lower and has huge potential for growth. Risk/reward is outstanding. Why would I buy DASH or other shitcoins if there is literally very low potential for growth and risk is the same? This really doesn't make sense to hold more than 2-3 coins, because generally most of them is losing value with the passing time, so I don't want to follow this pattern.
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December 12, 2015, 11:31:55 PM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?

That's funny. People here are acting like they are big investors. "O M G :O :O You are not diversifying? Its #1 rule." It's not a fricking Wall Street, you're not buying bonds to earn 4% per year, it's a casino. What do you want to diversify? Your risk is 100% on whatever coin you invest. Especially when you invest in altcoins, because you also have to follow bitcoin's price. Information assymetry is huuuge. Just decide how much you want to risk and diversify between crypto and other investments. Find a coin with best risk/reward ratio, take a gamble and don't hold it for too long.

VNL is a great investment. I don't really see it going lower and has huge potential for growth. Risk/reward is outstanding. Why would I buy DASH or other shitcoins if there is literally very low potential for growth and risk is the same? This really doesn't make sense to hold more than 2-3 coins, because generally all of them are losing value with the passing time, so I don't want to follow this pattern.

Doesn't matter if it's wall street or not.  If you don't diversify, you are gambling.

There are several coins that are good stores of wealth.

Thanks for the discertation, but please, no one listen to this fool.
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December 12, 2015, 11:51:17 PM
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Thanks man, appreciated! Did you try the qr-codes? Shocked
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December 12, 2015, 11:55:35 PM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?

That's funny. People here are acting like they are big investors. "O M G :O :O You are not diversifying? Its #1 rule." It's not a fricking Wall Street, you're not buying bonds to earn 4% per year, it's a casino. What do you want to diversify? Your risk is 100% on whatever coin you invest. Especially when you invest in altcoins, because you also have to follow bitcoin's price. Information assymetry is huuuge. Just decide how much you want to risk and diversify between crypto and other investments. Find a coin with best risk/reward ratio, take a gamble and don't hold it for too long.

VNL is a great investment. I don't really see it going lower and has huge potential for growth. Risk/reward is outstanding. Why would I buy DASH or other shitcoins if there is literally very low potential for growth and risk is the same? This really doesn't make sense to hold more than 2-3 coins, because generally all of them are losing value with the passing time, so I don't want to follow this pattern.

Doesn't matter if it's wall street or not.  If you don't diversify, you are gambling.

There are several coins that are good stores of wealth.

Thanks for the discertation, but please, no one listen to this fool.

You are gambling on every coin. The only diversification which makes sense is between crypto and real investments.
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The only thing it takes is bitcoin to go from 420 down to 200. There goes your good store of wealth. LOL Cheesy If someone doesn't understand the amount of risk which he takes by investing in a cryptocurrency then the discussion is just a waste of time. If you diversify between the highly correlated instruments with the very high rate of risk you only thinking you're not gambling and fooling yourself. Of course diversification lowers your risk(when you are investing and you know what the word "correlation" means  Cheesy), but it also cuts your potential gains and when the risk is that high you don't want to do that.

I wish you best of luck anyway.
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December 13, 2015, 12:14:38 AM
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just hold onto vnl, and become rich next year, my profit is being invested here

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December 13, 2015, 12:28:06 AM
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By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?

That's funny. People here are acting like they are big investors. "O M G :O :O You are not diversifying? Its #1 rule." It's not a fricking Wall Street, you're not buying bonds to earn 4% per year, it's a casino. What do you want to diversify? Your risk is 100% on whatever coin you invest. Especially when you invest in altcoins, because you also have to follow bitcoin's price. Information assymetry is huuuge. Just decide how much you want to risk and diversify between crypto and other investments. Find a coin with best risk/reward ratio, take a gamble and don't hold it for too long.

VNL is a great investment. I don't really see it going lower and has huge potential for growth. Risk/reward is outstanding. Why would I buy DASH or other shitcoins if there is literally very low potential for growth and risk is the same? This really doesn't make sense to hold more than 2-3 coins, because generally all of them are losing value with the passing time, so I don't want to follow this pattern.

Doesn't matter if it's wall street or not.  If you don't diversify, you are gambling.

There are several coins that are good stores of wealth.

Thanks for the discertation, but please, no one listen to this fool.

You are gambling on every coin. The only diversification which makes sense is between crypto and real investments.
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The only thing it takes is bitcoin to go from 420 down to 200. There goes your good store of wealth. LOL Cheesy If someone doesn't understand the amount of risk which he takes by investing in a cryptocurrency then the discussion is just a waste of time. If you diversify between the highly correlated instruments with the very high rate of risk you only thinking you're not gambling and fooling yourself. Of course diversification lowers your risk(when you are investing and you know what the word "correlation" means  Cheesy), but it also cuts your potential gains and when the risk is that high you don't want to do that.

I wish you best of luck anyway.

So you are saying that because the cryptosphere is so risky, diversification is not important?

I'd still rather diversify my risks.

And I never said btc was a good store of wealth.

I like your use of vocabulary though.  Makes you look intelligent.
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December 13, 2015, 12:37:35 AM
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Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..
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December 13, 2015, 01:01:02 AM
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once darkpp out you aint never seeing these price again up and higher

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