[DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ)

[child_harold]

is the current state of the chart undisputed?
what else might be missing?

[ffmad]

It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.

Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).

Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

[child_harold]

It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.

Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).

Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?

[WealthyBastard]

It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.

Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).

Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?

In my opinion you're right, not being fanboy to SDC or whatever... This is just the truth, not saying it's bad or good, people will decide, but this is a fact

[child_harold]

It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.

Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).

Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?

In my opinion you're right, not being fanboy to SDC or whatever... This is just the truth, not saying it's bad or good, people will decide, but this is a fact

thanks WealthyBastard

[child_harold]

Evrybody happy with the chart  as it currently stands?

[KingCaper]

Lately it seems anon coins are in the mind of everyone so let's awnser questions.

Updated with a fairer and more objective summary

I don't have as much time to spend keeping abreast of things on this site as I'd like so something like this is really useful to me. My thanks to everyone who contributed.

[toknormal]

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

Optimising monetary fungibility is a very different technical objective from implementing "end to end" anonymity.

If we look back at historical monetary media, like gold, there was no "end to end" anonymity in the sense that people wre trying to hide their transactions. But there was full fungibility (at least optionally) due to gold's low melting point.

A minted coin could be recognised from one transaction to the next but then if a pile of them were melted down and turned into bars instead, the coins were no longer recognisable.

So "hiding the transaction" is a distinct priority from "showing the transaction" but optimising monetary fungibility. In that sense, cryptonote tech is persuing the former and darkcoin tech is persuing the latter by supporting pre-emptive mixing - or 'melting' while the coins are in the wallet. In darkcoin, the coin supply is being continually anonymised because it gets done in your wallet, the previous wallet, the one before that and the one before that. There is less emphasis on any 1 transaction and more emphasis on keeping the coin supply as a whole anonymous and fungible.

Whatever the specific comparisons on the effectiveness of cryptography vs mixing, they are largely irrelevant because darkcoin's massive redundancy and iterative approach blows away any deficiency. It's also a more holistic approach which addresses monetary priorities rather than security ones.

For a prospective monetary medium, thats the right way around in my opinion.

[Dofus]

Lately it seems anon coins are in the mind of everyone so let's awnser questions.

Updated with a fairer and more objective summary

I don't have as much time to spend keeping abreast of things on this site as I'd like so something like this is really useful to me. My thanks to everyone who contributed.

Well you're welcome. Keep in mind that this might change in some times

[solid12345]

So "hiding the transaction" is a distinct priority from "showing the transaction" but optimising monetary fungibility. In that sense, cryptonote tech is persuing the former and darkcoin tech is persuing the latter by supporting pre-emptive mixing - or 'melting' while the coins are in the wallet. In darkcoin, the coin supply is being continually anonymised because it gets done in your wallet, the previous wallet, the one before that and the one before that. There is less emphasis on any 1 transaction and more emphasis on keeping the coin supply as a whole anonymous and fungible.

I guess I am not getting Evan's argument for Darkcoin being more fungible than Bitcoin. The US Marshalls Auction proves, at least in the United States, that government authorities don't seem to care whose hands Bitcoin was in previously. DPR's coins are not considered "tainted".

[infofront]

It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.

Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).

Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?

Agreed.

[adhitthana]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

[rustynailer]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

This is more about the tech and going by that Shadow more than deserves to be included in this list.

[ffmad]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

As if MarketCap really means something in tech...

Look at how high are LiteCoin and DogeCoin ?  

It doesn't mean it won't go much higher in the future, you now cryptocurrencies ...

[bitcreditscc]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

As if MarketCap really means something in tech...

Look at how high are LiteCoin and DogeCoin ?  

It doesn't mean it won't go much higher in the future, you now cryptocurrencies ...

I strongly agree, nowadays i measure fair liquidity (how much you can liquidate within 20% of starting price) as an indicator.

Market cap is just number of token x price, which is unrealistic.

[Dofus]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

Hopefully, this thread is focused on the tech, that means something.
Not like marketcap that can change in one night

[nsimmons]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

As if MarketCap really means something in tech...

So sure?

[Dofus]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

As if MarketCap really means something in tech...

So sure?

I'm not sure to understand your reference 

[GingerAle]

With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

As if MarketCap really means something in tech...

So sure?

I'm not sure to understand your reference 

exactly.

[Este Nuno]

So...with DRK and XMR which one is Betamax and which one is VHS?

Beta was supposed to be the superior technology, right(XMR?)? But VHS had the network effect and user base(DRK?)?