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October 31, 2017, 10:40:01 AM
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We need more Sparks to go wild, don't you all agree? Elokane please make some sparks go wild!

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October 31, 2017, 11:32:15 PM
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Synereo sold 0.9% of the founder AMPs. Try to find a comparison with other projects and see how it ranks compared to them.
Let's see how many are even transparent enough to expose all of their token usage like Synereo is.

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I didn't say that you sold everything or that you have bad intentions. I just said that you revealed that you were going to sell founder AMP. So you gave yourself permission to sell whenever you want, whatever you want. If you decide tomorrow to sell 90 % of founder AMP, you can do that and investors will get screwed. So savy investors will think twice before buying AMP now. If you only plan to sell 1 % AMP per year, then you could also have just published that. But you didn't so now people just have to take your word for it. And people are not going to take your word for it because of all the problems that people got after the second ICO, infights, and using their money to build a different product than they initially invested for. You realized that you destroyed investor's trust by that, do you ?

Diego, I did and am continuing to do the best I can under the circumstances. No one can predict whether or not a CTO will deliver; that's why buying tokens for visionary projects is a risky business.
What I care about now is creating the best product we can with the resources available to us, eventually delivering on the original vision when the technology can actually support it.

We were very specific about the conditions in which we would sell founder AMPs. I am not familiar with any other project founders bothering to announce their intentions or being anywhere near as transparent as we are, both about our intentions and about the actual state of each and every public token wallet. Everyone simply expects founders to simply pepper the market at their leisure.

I challenge you to find a project running for over a year where the founders have sold so few of their tokens. Smiley



So we should expect the selling of Founders AMPs to increase... It is clear to me. Anyone got a different interpretation?

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October 31, 2017, 11:52:03 PM
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So we should expect the selling of Founders AMPs to increase... It is clear to me. Anyone got a different interpretation?

Well, I've not chimed in in some months. So I'll give it a go. Here is the calculus as I _picture_ it might play out (insert generic disclaimer here)

The success (as in world-dominating) model of Synereo/AMP is predicated on the entire world getting used to the idea of monetizing the content and delivery thereof over the web via the flow of AMP rather than through today's prevalent advertising model. For this to occur -- the overthrow of today's Internet monetization model -- nearly everyone on the planet will need access to AMPs. Where are they going to get these AMPs? From the scant few current AMP holders? We're all stuck in a get-rich-quick, crab-bucket mentality. While it does not serve our long-term interests, our short-term demands will cause us to want so much for each AMP that such a pervasive market can never grow.

Synereo is going to need a large supply of AMPs -- dwarving that currently held by us early investors -- to seed the marketplace. In the end, they will need to nearly _give_ a token amount to each and every person who asks. It is the only way I see for such a wide scale change as is needed.

It truly is a conundrum. Token amounts of AMP need to be trivially available to anyone at negligible cost for a market to develop. OTOH, we want to recoup our investment. It is an exercise in threading a needle.

In the long run, these two goals can be compatible. As long as the velocity is high enough, each individual AMP can be low enough in value to be used freely by the WildSparkers, while still retaining enough value in aggregate to be a home run for us hodlers.

Only time will tell.

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November 01, 2017, 04:40:12 AM
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Pretend I am not feigning ignorance and educate me on the matter.


Not to flog a dead horse, just read Diego24's comments on this thread.
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November 01, 2017, 01:31:24 PM
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Haven't been in this thread in ages. So what's the latest going on for the project?

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November 01, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
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Haven't been in this thread in ages. So what's the latest going on for the project?

The project is no more. They built a centralized Google Chrome plugin instead and started selling founders AMPs before it is too late.

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November 02, 2017, 12:01:41 AM
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In the long run, these two goals can be compatible. As long as the velocity is high enough, each individual AMP can be low enough in value to be used freely by the WildSparkers, while still retaining enough value in aggregate to be a home run for us hodlers.

Only time will tell.

If only Synereo will build up sufficient hype and partnerships, instead of excelling in mediocrity. Potential != gain.

Case in point -- when I spoke to Dor about changing their original platform name (potential trademark infraction) I got a cool, know-it-all response. Stupid a-hole thought he had the plan all sewn up. Why was I not surprised when the name changed later?

Dor's reading this. Good. Pride leads to a fall. Learn to be humble, ***ing stupid millennial. I regret backing you and your trash. You're not the only fish in the ocean.
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November 02, 2017, 01:26:26 AM
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Haven't been in this thread in ages. So what's the latest going on for the project?

The project is no more. They built a centralized Google Chrome plugin instead and started selling founders AMPs before it is too late.

Given their history of raising funds to then have zero product after two years and then raising additional $5 mill to end up with virtually still a zero product I cannot say that I'm surprised by the end result.  Too bad the group was more focused on the money rather than the original decentralized goal of the project.

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November 02, 2017, 02:13:34 AM
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Haven't been in this thread in ages. So what's the latest going on for the project?

The project is no more. They built a centralized Google Chrome plugin instead and started selling founders AMPs before it is too late.

Given their history of raising funds to then have zero product after two years and then raising additional $5 mill to end up with virtually still a zero product I cannot say that I'm surprised by the end result.  Too bad the group was more focused on the money rather than the original decentralized goal of the project.

What to expect from the ones connected to GetGems scammers? Oh, no, wait. Don't listen to us, the trollers, the FUDers who pointed out here several times that the price would move towards 3k instead of 100k! Keep dreaming.

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November 02, 2017, 05:00:13 AM
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Haven't been in this thread in ages. So what's the latest going on for the project?

I recommend you follow the blog and newsletter for updates.
https://blog.synereo.com/2017/10/23/wildspark-going-mainstream/


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November 02, 2017, 05:02:27 AM
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Well, I've not chimed in in some months. So I'll give it a go. Here is the calculus as I _picture_ it might play out (insert generic disclaimer here)

The success (as in world-dominating) model of Synereo/AMP is predicated on the entire world getting used to the idea of monetizing the content and delivery thereof over the web via the flow of AMP rather than through today's prevalent advertising model. For this to occur -- the overthrow of today's Internet monetization model -- nearly everyone on the planet will need access to AMPs. Where are they going to get these AMPs? From the scant few current AMP holders? We're all stuck in a get-rich-quick, crab-bucket mentality. While it does not serve our long-term interests, our short-term demands will cause us to want so much for each AMP that such a pervasive market can never grow.

Synereo is going to need a large supply of AMPs -- dwarving that currently held by us early investors -- to seed the marketplace. In the end, they will need to nearly _give_ a token amount to each and every person who asks. It is the only way I see for such a wide scale change as is needed.

It truly is a conundrum. Token amounts of AMP need to be trivially available to anyone at negligible cost for a market to develop. OTOH, we want to recoup our investment. It is an exercise in threading a needle.

In the long run, these two goals can be compatible. As long as the velocity is high enough, each individual AMP can be low enough in value to be used freely by the WildSparkers, while still retaining enough value in aggregate to be a home run for us hodlers.

Only time will tell.

Thank you.

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November 03, 2017, 12:51:04 AM
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I think things are getting better now seeing just the volume on this thread alone. It used to be like just 2-3 trolls here, but now there is a decent discussion going on, that is already positive sign if you ignore the noise coming from Diego24 and cchub who are known old trolls.

I haven't been active here recently but I will write on my blog soon about this.

Diego24 is not a troll.

I don't think of you as a troll also, if you provide good information instead of your 150.000 ROI shit. Maybe AMP is good but you scare investors with worthless information.

No that 150,000 ROI was misunderstood by you and Diego. I have explained it already 4 times what I meant by that, search back, I will not explain it again. But I didn't lied, you just misinterpreted it.


You are such a retard that it is unbelievable. No, they better listen to you, the guy that was saying at 21k that everyone should hurry and buy AMP because it would never be that cheap again. Few months later now ... price crashed with 90 %.

OH yes, your steemit blog with all these followers you have with a combined net worth of several billion dollars that would make AMP go to the moon because of your posts. We know how that story went ...

Cut the crap. Since Synereo announced they we're going to sell their founder AMP, serious investors will not touch AMP anymore. I am not going to jump in it so Synereo can dump their coins at my expense. But you are you too blind and burned to see that, mr 150.000 % Roi.

My posts are not investment advice, they are just my opinion, and I have a right to express my thoughts and opinions. So how is it my fault that people bought when the price crashed 90%, like it's my fault that the price crashed 90% ?

You don't think I have lost money too? But regardless, I think this project is solid and it has a very good team behind it. I haven't sold.

What happens with the market I have no idea, probably a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, but the project is solid, so I think the market has to factor that in eventually.

Users are coming, website revamped.... Really this project is now moving foreward, so I'd expect the market to react to that.

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November 03, 2017, 12:59:50 AM
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Haven't been in this thread in ages. So what's the latest going on for the project?

I recommend you follow the blog and newsletter for updates.
https://blog.synereo.com/2017/10/23/wildspark-going-mainstream/



Keep up the good work, don't let the trolls affect you. It's been a long journey and I see the project going in the right direction in my opinion. I think exciting times will come, I love the revamped website. I think this will be a succesful project. Good job so far!  Smiley

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November 03, 2017, 02:59:06 AM
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I really like your deep analyzing problems now happen and your project may change this situation for a better!
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November 03, 2017, 12:20:28 PM
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I think things are getting better now seeing just the volume on this thread alone. It used to be like just 2-3 trolls here, but now there is a decent discussion going on, that is already positive sign if you ignore the noise coming from Diego24 and cchub who are known old trolls.

I haven't been active here recently but I will write on my blog soon about this.

Diego24 is not a troll.

I don't think of you as a troll also, if you provide good information instead of your 150.000 ROI shit. Maybe AMP is good but you scare investors with worthless information.

No that 150,000 ROI was misunderstood by you and Diego. I have explained it already 4 times what I meant by that, search back, I will not explain it again. But I didn't lied, you just misinterpreted it.


You are such a retard that it is unbelievable. No, they better listen to you, the guy that was saying at 21k that everyone should hurry and buy AMP because it would never be that cheap again. Few months later now ... price crashed with 90 %.

OH yes, your steemit blog with all these followers you have with a combined net worth of several billion dollars that would make AMP go to the moon because of your posts. We know how that story went ...

Cut the crap. Since Synereo announced they we're going to sell their founder AMP, serious investors will not touch AMP anymore. I am not going to jump in it so Synereo can dump their coins at my expense. But you are you too blind and burned to see that, mr 150.000 % Roi.

My posts are not investment advice, they are just my opinion, and I have a right to express my thoughts and opinions. So how is it my fault that people bought when the price crashed 90%, like it's my fault that the price crashed 90% ?

You don't think I have lost money too? But regardless, I think this project is solid and it has a very good team behind it. I haven't sold.

What happens with the market I have no idea, probably a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, but the project is solid, so I think the market has to factor that in eventually.

Users are coming, website revamped.... Really this project is now moving foreward, so I'd expect the market to react to that.

Hope you are right mate!
In my case I have lost the trust on this project and I sold most of my position.. Sad
I was a real supporter but.. lately have been appearing new projects that imo they have more potential than AMP..

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November 03, 2017, 10:31:52 PM
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I think things are getting better now seeing just the volume on this thread alone. It used to be like just 2-3 trolls here, but now there is a decent discussion going on, that is already positive sign if you ignore the noise coming from Diego24 and cchub who are known old trolls.

I haven't been active here recently but I will write on my blog soon about this.

Diego24 is not a troll.

I don't think of you as a troll also, if you provide good information instead of your 150.000 ROI shit. Maybe AMP is good but you scare investors with worthless information.

No that 150,000 ROI was misunderstood by you and Diego. I have explained it already 4 times what I meant by that, search back, I will not explain it again. But I didn't lied, you just misinterpreted it.


You are such a retard that it is unbelievable. No, they better listen to you, the guy that was saying at 21k that everyone should hurry and buy AMP because it would never be that cheap again. Few months later now ... price crashed with 90 %.

OH yes, your steemit blog with all these followers you have with a combined net worth of several billion dollars that would make AMP go to the moon because of your posts. We know how that story went ...

Cut the crap. Since Synereo announced they we're going to sell their founder AMP, serious investors will not touch AMP anymore. I am not going to jump in it so Synereo can dump their coins at my expense. But you are you too blind and burned to see that, mr 150.000 % Roi.

My posts are not investment advice, they are just my opinion, and I have a right to express my thoughts and opinions. So how is it my fault that people bought when the price crashed 90%, like it's my fault that the price crashed 90% ?

You don't think I have lost money too? But regardless, I think this project is solid and it has a very good team behind it. I haven't sold.

What happens with the market I have no idea, probably a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, but the project is solid, so I think the market has to factor that in eventually.

Users are coming, website revamped.... Really this project is now moving foreward, so I'd expect the market to react to that.

Hope you are right mate!
In my case I have lost the trust on this project and I sold most of my position.. Sad
I was a real supporter but.. lately have been appearing new projects that imo they have more potential than AMP..


Sorry to hear that, mate. I hope you can recover your loss. Be careful with other scams out there. There are many people in cryptoland who ask your money and don't deliver what they promised. Synereo is just one example.

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November 04, 2017, 02:56:03 AM
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Patreon has won the creator funding market already

https://www.patreon.com/

The competition is not STEEM or BAT or LBC  , they are all just competitors of Patreon that have not caught on. 

Synereo has chosen not to market its current offering and it has not caught on by itself.

Rchain owns millions of AMP which they are unable to sell.

This is the facts of the matter folks, do your own research.
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November 04, 2017, 10:02:47 AM
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My posts are not investment advice, they are just my opinion, and I have a right to express my thoughts and opinions. So how is it my fault that people bought when the price crashed 90%, like it's my fault that the price crashed 90% ?

You don't think I have lost money too? But regardless, I think this project is solid and it has a very good team behind it. I haven't sold.

What happens with the market I have no idea, probably a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, but the project is solid, so I think the market has to factor that in eventually.
Even though we have a lot of fights here, I am sorry you lost a lot of money. But I warned you. I already had the same loss as you 6 months earlier but you didn't want to listen.

Well, how it is your fault ? In the past year many new people entered crypto. When you read about the project it does sound like a good project. So if you come here and then you have someone like you peptalking the coin without taking into account all the fundamentals then these new people are going to follow you because you speak with so much confidence and positivity. And as I told you back then, this behavior was going to burn investors ... and so it happened. I don't think you did it with bad intentions. I think, just like any human being, you just tried to feel important by trying to make other people make a lot of money. But you were not experienced enough to give out advice and that's why people now are burned, yourself included.

Just play it safe. With your main stack you have to be in BTC and ETH. With a smaller stack you can sit in altcoins you like. Buying altcoins is hardcore gambling. BTC and ETH are already established coins. Odds are very low that they will crash to 0. They might be in a bubble right now but over a longterm period they have a very high probability to be much higher than they are now. And besides that you can gamble a smaller amount in some altcoins that might have an awesome future projection. You might win the lottery. But don't put all your money in altcoins. Don't make that mistake. And also, don't be too greedy. These coins go higher in bubbles. If you have some good profits, take half of your money out the table.
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November 04, 2017, 03:07:18 PM
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Are there any bounty or airdrop, sirs? Please help me if you can Cry
Thank you very much, my AMP wallet: 1ApMGWrSyQiyrkJWKX3vbbZHodSoFYM7Fp
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November 05, 2017, 01:18:36 AM
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I have been a long time fan of this project, I am not a troll in any way.

They are not promoting their own product even though they called it a public beta months ago.
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