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Baritus got took for ~500K DGC from his personal wallet by a former employee.  Baritus posted the theft on the DGC subreddit. 

Not sure why this isn't getting any attention.  This was A LOT of DGC, equivalent to a buttload of BTC, even at current trade value (whose precipitous drop is probably from the thief dumping the majority of the booty)

It sucks, but the dev said he is still committed to making DGC work.  Way to hang in there buddy, too bad you got stabbed in the back by an employee.

Did this happen last week?  On Cryptsy massive selling of DGC was on March 8 (300K).

http://www.reddit.com/r/digitalcoin/comments/1zyphj/i_lost_560k_dgc_through_theft/

Damn this is awful news. Baritus is a good dev he didn't deserve that.

I feel sorry for him but I am also wondering about his security awareness. If he can't secure his own funds I doubt he is able to guarantee the safety of funds on CryptoAve. This guy could also have stolen the admin login details or accessed the cold storage (if there is cs???).

Too bad he hadn't moved the coins to a new coin since he knew the other guy might have gotten access to the file :S

Dev doesn't even hold his own coins in cold storage

Smart guy

Good luck with that exchange lol

People warned bartius was a scammer and no one listened. You've been bartiused

yes he was hacked last week but that is not his full stash. His remainder is in cold storage.

That's sad. He's doing a great job with CryptoAve.com

Really?  He must still control a buttload of DGC if that is just his hot wallet.

You have to trust employees, unfortunate for him.  If my wife wanted to rob my BTC, she could do it easily as well because I trust her.

That is fucked up. 500k of dgc will be worth a fortune.

If he knows him personally ....it's time for some serious action for that amount.

Lol, it's like you can't even go by a few days without hearing one of these stories. Oh, the drama... ::)

Bartiused

Similar to Goxed. When a cryptocurrency was claimed to be stolen was infact stolen by the person making the claims.

You've been Bartiused

At least this time the theft doesn't affect BTC :D

I agree, things just get fishier and fishier around Baritus.

Securecoin was made to sound like he developed the latest greatest coin when it was just a reward change to Quark...100% bullshit.  Lose faith when such a bold lie.
CryptoAve in 6month+ beta to be the greatest exchange ever...sucks worse than allcrypt.
DGC price drops 300%, CryptoAve is a dud...uhoh someone stole 500,000DGC.
DGC had no premine and Baritus says that limited marketing etc etc due to that fact and needs user donations to fund everything...yet he has 500,000DGC stolen and that is just part of his PERSONAL stash...lol looks like for every 10DGC donated 9 go to Baritus and 1 goes to the marketing campaign...which so far has been "hey guys I want to add another coin to CryptoAve...what should it be"  wow brilliant!

DGC is the eternal promise of cryptocoins.

bagholding a bunch of them.

No developer should have that many coins.. Reeks of premine and scam.  So basicly you're saying someone scammed the scammer.. Doesn't hurt my feelings anyways..

50 BTC worth.

EDIT:  Here's what I don't understand... How does he know it was his former employee?


How does he know said ex-employee made a copy of the wallet file, and keylogged the password?  How does he know it wasn't someone outside who managed to hack his network or something?

Is your wife your employee?

No, I am hers.  And its a sweet deal!   ;D

Here's motive, too:  He wanted money.  He could sell the coins himself, pocket the 50 BTC, but then faith would be lost in the currency if the founder is selling a bunch of it, and the rest of his DGC holdings would be worthless.  So he claims it was stolen, sold off in "those massive sells" yesterday, so that he can sell a large amount of his own coins without raising anyone's suspicions.

To me, his facts seem too definite.  He knows more, without question, than he should be able to.  On top of what I've already mentioned, somehow he knows that the coins sold on the exchange yesterday were the same ones that were "stolen".  Sure, one might make a reasonable conclusion to that effect, but with certainty?  He seems certain.  Why?

EDIT:  Also, he mentions nothing about the ex-employee as far as prosecution or recovery.  It's like $30k was taken from him and he just doesn't care.  Who doesn't care about $30k?  Also, who doesn't change passwords after an employee who had access to the machine storing all the money leaves?  That would be the first thing I would do, and I'm not even a very security-conscious person!

You guys turn quick on someone in a second no jury or trial just guilty i see  :-\

Most people here on bitcointalk are pitch-forking idiots.  Carry on.

In the crypto world, everyone is guilty until (well there is no until anything).

Some guys here, including master troll BCX, are morons. There is no motive to dumping hundreds of thousands of coins at the same time and again whenever the price reaches 10k satoshis or higher. You underestimate the intelligence of the dev because this guy invests months and months of work into the coin, is super patient (and continues to be) if he wanted or needed money he could have just sold coins in any 10k amount over all the past weeks and months slowly and under the radar of market attention. It especially makes no sense to choose a time when DGC already is at a new low (massive dumping began in 12k satoshi area). Trust is a bitch.

You could tell by the one day graph someone was dumping lots and lots of coins and it looks more like dumping out of mere panic to get as many BTC as possible to make a quick escape with the fortune. It is a fairly large amount and there was a time not too long ago when everyone and the dev was able to buy DGC for 3k satoshis, so no wonder he held so many of them. I bought tens of thousands of coins then myself for extremely cheap. This, plus all the donation coins make up a big stash alone - there was no premine nor instamine with DGC! Who would hold a lot of coins if not the dev believing in his own project backed with his full time and money?!

CryptoAve will get USD trading enabled very soon, merchant services are coming for DGC, the new (really terrific) website will get launched soon and the dev has been doing everything he can to fill the promise of Digital with contents. You are unhappy about the lack of publicity? Fine, many are. But I have no reason to doubt Baritus and believe he created the next best (and fair) coin after Litecoin.

If I was running a 'secure' exchange and was dumb enough not to be able to secure my own personal coins, I still wouldn't be dumb enough to announce it..........just saying  ;)

Agreed. Why announce it? Oh it is setting the stage for the next announcement. The ex employee has robbed the exchange of all funds.

He didn't "announce" it but admitted to it while we were discussing the massive sudden sell-off in the DGC forum. It was clear this would not be kept on the forum, so why hide it? None of you probably hold dgc anyway, and just love to get entertainment from the misery of others. There are lots of scams going on, but some of you guys see scams everywhere now. Time of paranoia. Cool down a bit.

Funnily enough I hold quite a bit of dgc, why do you think the dev's 50 btc pump didn't work  ;)

For those idiots giving Baritus a caning over the stolen wallet, it was alledgedly a close work colleague who had physical access to his work machine. Not hard for someone to install a keylogger while you are away from your machine in that case. I know I don't always lock my pc around my close work colleagues as I wouldn't expect them to do anything shifty like that.  Nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes including you trolls I bet.

CAve was not affected as it was a personal wallet issue. I'm confident CAve is becoming a very secure exchange given all the hard work, extra security layers and methodical, careful approach to it by Baritus and wish him all the best as I'm sure he was gutted losing that amount of DGC. He did say it has made him more determined than ever to make dgc successful tho.

I was there when Baritus told everyone in the DGC IRC channel. I have no reason to not believe what he says is true. He could have ripped everyone off numerous times over already if he wanted to over the last year. Why would he want to make something like this up. I commend him for actually telling people instead of pulling a Gox and keeping stuff hidden.

So to answer your question YES I did read it before I posted. Haven't you got something more constructive to do rather than just troll this thread??

1. The only DGC lost was my own. I bought it.
2. I trusted someone to perform a job and it was a mistake. I only trusted the person to the degree of believing they can perform a task without stealing. I was wrong, so the loss is mine and I accepted it and moved on. Of course I would never allow anyone access to any computer with sensitive data of any type without proper clearance. It was a personal incident.
3. I take extreme security precautions when handling anything related to CryptoAve. There is no exchange with tighter security. All funds are 100% fully secured from all sources and in all aspects.

I choose not to respond to the idiotic and more often than not moronic trolling that has become a stagnant and unwelcoming part of this forum.

I love DGC  ;)

You like making stuff up out of thin air I noticed.

The computer had absolutely nothing to do with CryptoAve. CryptoAve was not even online or functioning when the wallet file was stolen. No one ever had access to any of the CryptoAve servers other than me.

You need to work on tuning down your imagination to reality level.

I will keep on calling BS on that theft until Baritus provides the damn public address of the stolen wallets. Why would you hide this information if you had nothing to hide? I'm not saying he's dumping his coin, but I'm saying that providing it would clear many things up.

If you look in one of the many block explorers you can see when a large number of days were destroyed.

For example there were 5,318,155 days destroyed in this block :

http://dgc.blockr.io/block/info/758830

So the recipient address in question is D8XRZpjj5RBda7c1TiLb5z6pgF8EftxXs8

There isn't a rolley-eyes icon big enough to express how I feel about this.

BCX, please go back to trolling Coblee and your Solidcoin friends.

trololololooser

Former employee?  Damn if that happened to me and I knew the guy and where to find him all hell would break loose.  Sad that there are such dishonest people around.

True that. But this is not about if he had access to CryptoAve. This is about your sloppy attitude towards security. Getting your wallet stolen is something I expect to happen to Crypto rookies and not to a person who runs an exchange. Furthermore it is more than questionable that you won't make the address public. Why is baritus not rying to get the Coins back? Apparently he knows the person pretty well.

I used to support DGC but now I am going to dump all my coins.

Man you just don't know when to shut your piehole. Give up your pathetic trolling attempts and go back to your useless existence peddling your misery somewhere else. Baritus himself has told you what happened yet you still continue to act like the ignorant, arrogant douchebag that everyone knows you as.

Do you not have a shred of dignity at all? It must be fun being an A grade loser that most people despise. "Oh look I'm the great self proclaimed forkmaster ~BCX~ "who can fork you coin at will!. Well whoopitdeedoo give the man a nobel prize what a credit to society he is! Using his genius talent to further the good of humanity there! Everybody give him a clap for his wonderful contribution.

Hey BCX do us all a favour and crawl back under that rock from where you came noone is going to miss you anyway. Muppet.

I doesn't make sense for a Dev to dump his coins at such a low price and thus cripple his project.
It's easy to accuse.

Why are you insulting him?
This is a legit concern. Why is Baritus not disclosing the public address?
This one of the best thing with a public blockchain: all assets are fully transparent to the public. Why can't Baritus provide an address that match the story? Considering his reaction, I believe it is because he can't. 
He has the burden of the proof. You can't just go around claiming that such a huge sum got stolen from you, and expect people to believe you without any evidence. Why are you so compelled to act as his guard dog?

We're not asking for much. This is the crypto-currency far west after all. Haven't you learned that nobody can be trusted?

It's a perfectly legitimate question. The second sentence is conjecture, but yes it is highly questionable that the address isn't being posted.

Agree with the others, why flip it and attack BCX, when he is addressing legitimate and perfectly reasonable concerns.

As EdwardWitten eloquently put it, the Digitalcoin Dev has the burden of proof. It's up to him to prove the coins were stolen. He hasn't done that.

We're supposed to trust that he didn't dump them himself? Whether he did or didn't is besides the point. Taking someone at their word for that, on these forums?

I don't blame anyone for jumping to conclusions. I won't, for now, but sometimes the naivety on these forums makes me want to bang my head against walls. Tell me, would you trust another person you didn't know not to sell 50 BTC worth of altcoins? (I have no idea how much the DigitalCoins were worth, but just replace the amount of BTC with whatever you consider a large sum of money to be)

The Dev may very well be telling the truth, but you can't get defensive just because people on these forums refuse to take someone at their word alone.

yep, especially over something as simple as asking for the address. I told FreeTrade that exact thing about transparency with memorycoin, and look what happened with that.

Lol. Has anyone even asked him to post the address yet? What would it actually show? Someone who knew his private key sent them to another dgc address of his own, then dumping them on the market.

What has this guy got to gain by being public that he lost his own personal stash of digital coins?

Why would he ever reply to your PM?  Your mind is already made up...

well, now he doesn't have to reply to a PM. 

There is no motive. Any other month in 2013 would have made more sense. He would be insanely crazy to dump coins at such a low price when it was 30k satoshis only a few weeks earlier.

Sorry to see both sides tossing insults around.  The question of the public address should be a no-brainer.  I'm a fan of CryptoAve but I would definitely like to see the address given out.  My question is why not?

Exactly. Why would any sane person dump like that at current prices unless they stole the coins and didn't care about holding them. Baritus could have sold out ages ago especially when dgc hit 0.0009 BTC a few months ago and many times over if he wanted to anyway. Why would he even bother spending so much time on CryptoAve to then cut and run by dumping a whole heap of dgc now? Its just ridiculous speculation on the part of some. He has given a perfectly logical explanation which makes alot more sense than the fairy tales some ppl seem to enjoy telling here.

Omg, use your imagination. Not saying that any of this is true but these are all possible scenarios:
1. Market manipulation. Dump a large amount of coins, cause a crash and buy them back cheaper
2. He has personal troubles and desperately needs money
3. He lost interest in DGC, sick of waiting for DGC's rise
4. There is a new coin coming
...

5. He did not dump and is just trying to justify the crash.
6. Decided there was no hope for digitalcoin in the sea of altcoins.

1. Anyone but the dev is more likely to try market manipulation. It's way too risky for him. DGC was once down to 3000 satoshis and Baritus knows how hard it was to get the price back up to ten times as high.

2. Good point. Why not just sell 100-200k dgc in small amounts time after time. Noone minds if he needs to liquidate money. He could have just sold and that's his good right. But doing it this way harming your own currency (repeatedly) is a most idotic move.

3. Yeah, that's why he just spent months to code an entire exchange on his own.

4. He puts all his efforts into DGC for a year to drop it like a hot potato?

The only possible reason I see for not to give a transaction id is not wanting future coins and other addresses to be followed, hiding that he might have lots more coins than 500k (which isn't unlikely as price hit a bottom of 3k satoshis a few months back), or protecting his own identity.

http://pastebin.com/DP6NTuvt

There's plenty of motives. Maybe he thought the coin was losing value and this was his chance. Maybe he'd been thinking about it for a while but didn't have a plausible cover story.

Saying he didn't have motive is a very weak defence.

Again, conjecture, but there are 101 reasons he might have decided to dump the coins.

Not sure what went on here.
Another case of a 'privliged' individual personally benefiting from the rest of us.
Integrity and the ability to be 'smart' about things are must have traits for any coin developer.
When coins that are run honestly have low value at exchanges and questionable coins have high value it shows
right out in the open.

Any who might I ask are you ? A shill for BCX ?

I suspect someone in this conversation is actively attempting but failing to hack into the exchange.

BCX : You've bragged in the past about taking down exchanges, are you attacking CryptoAve now ?

There's no need for that, I think we all know how well any website will handle 200 gbps and it wouldn't be good.

Someone is attacking CryptoAve which is strange as it's a very new exchange with little volume and probably not many coins in there.

Why would someone do that I wonder ? It's not a high value target.

Just fucking do it and stop bellowing out hot air from your hands to your keyboard.

come on bcx, there are more than a few things you can do to help with php's 'weaknesses'

BCX your ignorance is astounding. When will you ever shutup and give everyone a break from your constant bitching, misery peddling and useless contribution to society?? Did something happen to you as a kid to be such a nasty asshat all the time? Please enlighten us. How is threatening to DDOS or hack CAve going to help our community?

- No coins were stolen in this limited CAve account breach. Security measures caught this and the site was brought down for changes. Unlike other exchanges like Gox for example

- The stolen DGC coins address is searchable in the DGC blockchain. Go find it yourself if your such genius and quit bitching.

- DGC remains one of the fairest if not the fairest launched alt coins with arguably the most services in development of any alt coins

- CryptoAve security will be further tightened with rewriting of the PHP parts in question.

Do you check your machine every time you login for keyloggers especially in a trusted "work" environment or lock your machine all the time? I don't and doubt many ppl do. Easy for a "trusted" colleague with physical access to install a keylogger on your machine.

Once again the bottom line is NO coins were stolen from CAve. Do us all a favour and take your trolling and FUD somewhere else. I'm betting this won't happen though you are too stupid to quit your trolling addiction right?

got my coins out just fine.

Who would use the same info or pw anywhere else anyway? And who even had coins on the exchange? Maybe a handful of people. If I read that conversation correctly, it was not clear yet what has happened exactly. So stop spreading FUD. Or continue, I don't even care. Do you even know you are giving DGC a lot of free publicity over a non-issue? Don't you know?! There is no such thing as bad publicity. Thank you, beloved troll!

 BCX pulls some of the most valid points I have seen.

 Barry, WTF man? I said this last week! If a dev gets robbed, and will not name names, or post the address, shit is stupid. Barrie.. please respond.. Your killing your coin and name. As I am an investor, and holder, I feel betrayed. Make this right. ALL your coins are dieing, as well as my investment.

Then you have seen nothing yet. If you knew what type of person BCX is, you would know he isn't to be trusted with shit. All he is known for is to make trouble and a great fuzz over little things. Then you patiently wait for him to ever pull through with one of his promises, and.... nothing ever happens. He just puts doubt out there and all you fools go running. The reason is that humans can't incredibly well resist fear, even if they consider themselves to be rational thinkers. Fear, doubt, and uncertainty is irrational.

If you had taken a closer look around the Bitcointalk forums, you should know there are much worse things to fear about than your DGC investment. Things like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497289.0 and its repercussions for your entire alt and non-altcoin portfolio. You will need to do a bit of thinking for yourself there though.

You need to learn to read. No coins were lost and users are currently getting back their coins. The attack vector is what hasn't been figured out yet, therefore the exchange was closed as a precaution.

You know nothing. You just keep fishing in the dark. The question would be why? And what do you even care? Perhaps you are the attacker?!

 Sadly I have to agree... Cryptoave shares for sale! PM me with offers! Baritus, as much as it kills me to say it... you fucked us. I believed in you, even sold it to investors. Now I look like a jackass. You cannot even fully explain the situation. Bad Move. I'll eat this loss and take care of the people that invested in me and chalk it up to bad moves, but sadly... I believed in you. YOU FUCKED ME.

Yeah, I'm sure you would just love that.

What do you guys expect from someone who is signing his every post with "~BCX~"  ;D

I want proof, I want you to show me this "Stolen Database" if you show me the database and proof that coins were stolen from the exchange and that more than 9 accounts were compromised, I will stop supporting DGC forever! And for those who know who I am, that is a huge deal.





Scrappy_D0, You need to learn 1 thing, and you need to learn it really fucking quick. The world of crypto-currencies (as of right now) is not a place to be bringing outside investors into. If you want to lose your friends along with all your "OMFG I MADE A TON ON DOGE CAUSE IM A GENIUS" Money, keep doing what you are doing. If you want to have REAL safe investments, take your cash out of BTC and put it inside your mattress. Otherwise shut the fuck up and take responsibility for bringing people into a "bad investment" as you call it. Don't go around blaming someone else!

If you were really as smart as you think you are, you would have only put a portion into one currency and spread the rest around.

I agree with this 100%. I explain Crypto to some people but don't recommend they invest. I don't need people going around telling everyone I encouraged them to invest in something which could almost disappear overnight - this could happen to almost any alt in a short period of time.

To me the alts are something to speculate on only with profits gained from initial BTC investments made long ago.

There's no way I would take on investors and manage their holdings for them - that's just asking for trouble.

How many, how much ?

BitcoinExpress... I expect an answer straight from you, not because you owe me anything but because I went to the private DGC forums with this shit.... What will getting a wallet number add to what is going on? really? If I get a compelling answer from you I'm going to make it a compelling reason to see this wallet number...

Should you fail, well whatever I'm divested in several things and could care less at this point. A small loss is just a laugh... hence why I've told people to invest in the manner that I've told them to invest.

 such a sad thing happening to a nice guy

Yeah right I forgot you probably don't even have a day job given the amount of time you put into trolling and generally making an ass of yourself (long history of that in Cryptsy chat too) so no need to ask if you lock your machine at work.

As for this 'stolen database' who the fark are you Nostradamus? Where does a handful of account passwords = a stolen database?? Nice one genius lets put 2 + 2 together to make 5 eh. Hope you never get jury duty because the person will be guilty before they get a chance to be proven otherwise with you.

By the way everyone has access to their coins on CAve so bzzzzt wrong again, thanks for playing...next.

Why are you all avoiding the question of the public address and picking at other non-relevant points?

There is absolutely no reason to not post it.

I guess what I don't get is: If it was a theft of personal funds, why does Baritus owe us anything?

It wasn't CAve Funds
It wasn't customer funds
It wasn't DGC Developer Funds

He trusted someone he shouldn't, and we are nailing him to the wall as if none of us have ever made the same mistake.

CAve got exploited. Which exchange hasn't?

How many exploited exchanges acted in the interests of security and its users, instead of keeping trading open to get those transaction fees.

My take: This thread is entirely too heated and with all of these personal attack posts between proponents and opponents, Baritus' best move here is to not play.

We really need to decouple the goings on of CAve, and the personal Theft of a Dev.

I will not be responding further to this thread, so do not bother antagonizing or PMing me about it.

I'll be continuing to watch from the sidelines. Let's try to stay civil everyone. :)

+1

I got robbed! But I'm not going to provide you with the only evidence that could verify my story!

Keylogger? Dev uses windows, can't be true???  Security nightmare, better hope not exchange too!

1. Anyone with a brain knows that a wallet of that size would have hundreds of receiving addresses.
2. Read the above again.
3. Nothing on C Ave was exploited at all. I am taking precautions due to the frequency and seriousness of the constant attacks to make sure nothing happens in the future either.

 :D

I said nothing of the sort. The exchange was brand-new. So I infered there probably even weren't more than a handful of accounts yet, let alone with coins. So what? None of this has anything to do with the OP. Dev was robbed private funds. Dev shut down CryptoAve due to frequent hack attempts, it was the right thing to do. Two different issues. That's it. Moving along to more important matters now and waiting for CAVE to reopen asap. It worked great.

How would it affect you anyway? Did you lose something? Nope. Did anyone lose anything other than me? Nope.

Even if I had decided to sell it, I could've done so without saying anything and got more for it. Why would I say it? The logic section in your brain might have some disconnections.

I don't see any point in anything you say other than you like being annoying for no reason? I made up a story to sell my own hard earned coins at a cheaper price than if I said nothing? That's pretty retarded buddy.

23K DGC for sale.  ::)

Seems legit to me.  Everything you've been crying about has been answered with no "plot holes".  You're just doing everything you can to manipulate the situation because you have nothing better to do in your life.  In other words, you're a loser.

Now dev blames exchange problem on bug in php???  lol no  ::)

Nobody gives a shit what you think.

Do you even have any DGC ?

Allow me to rephrase : I don't give a shit what you think and I know many others feel the same.

I give a shit what he says because I mined and purchased DGC since its release and have been getting weird feelings about Baritus for a couple months based on a number of bullshit claims and false promises.  Now this farce just adds to it.

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about here.

My account was one of the "Compromised" accounts on CryptoAve.

I received a notice that someone had tried to reset my password. Upon receiving this message, naturally, I freaked out and immediately tried to access my CryptoAve account.

I was still able to log in, my coins were safe. I changed my passwords for CryptoAve as well as my email to be safe.

CryptoAve shut down, I made a request to withdraw my coins and I have received my coins.

So, if my account was compromised and my coins were lost, why are they now safely in my wallets in cold storage?

This is a non issue.

Baritus had some personal coins stolen, which is nobody's business. In retrospect, he should have just kept his mouth shut and avoid all this. If he would have done this, then people would only be speculating on why so many coins would have been dumped on March 8th. He tried to be honest with everyone and ended up being accused of everything under the sun.

Sucks for him, sucks for CryptoAve.

The good news is, all this bad press is allowing me to pick up some really cheap DGC ;)

Maybe DGC isn't for you.

I can't attest to your psychic abilities so I don't know how valid your 'weird feelings' are, but sure maybe trading based purely on your emotions is the best way forward  for you ::)

By "investor" are you talking about Scrappy_D0? Cause one retard that jumps ship and blames everyone else but themselves for losing their friends/families money, is not an investor. I would like to see your wallet! How much DGC are YOU holding? What reason do you have to be opening your massive mouth about this?

Fucktard. 

My issues have been outlined in the DGC thread and they are when discrepencies exist between what Baritus claims and what is actual (from SRC development to the Media Campaign).  I don't need to relist them here.

You are obviously one of the dipshits in the DGC thread that posts 'oh wow thanks for the amazing update.  what a great dev' when all he posts is 'crypto ave back open'  ::)  aka a flower fart sniffer.

Quoted for posterity, you're really making an ass out of yourself now.

Good idea.  That quote is pretty amazing so I am glad you are preserving it.  You should probably print it out and frame it so you can show your Mom you are a genuine fart sniffer.

 ::)

Nope, you're just a troll.

I lol'd ^^^ Called him a fart sniffer. Ha.

BCX your arguments are laughable. You really are an imbecile.

Baritus has explained to you what happened numerous times but it fails to register in your thick skull time and time again. If you think a dev is going to dump 500k at 0.0001 after spending almost a year developing DGC, its services and just after coding an exchange from the ground up your really are an A grade twit! Get your head out of Fairyland and stop starting up bullshit stories. Your arguments have more holes than a block of swisscheese lol. Maybe you should take up writing kids fantasy stories ala Dr Suess?

NO coins were lost on CryptoAve and Baritus was able to catch the hacking attempts and bring down the site which is more than we can say for many other exchanges that lost coins for its customers. I'll sleep easy knowing my coins are safe on CryptoAve any day of the week compared to other exchanges.

Anyone with half a brain will realise BCX is nothing more than a drama queen who delights in peddling bullshit with ridiculous inferences and wild speculation. I know who I would rather believe...

I would love to come to this thread and have something concrete. Instead we have a whiny bitch, BitcoinExpress, and a bunch of DGC fans defending their coin and dev, which they have all rights too.

So please. BCX stop posting until you prove something. THANKS



~zneww~

"The whiney bitch" BitcoinEXpress... I like that. I think it will stick.

Would have to agree.  The fact that Baritus refuses to post an address that corroborates his story is highly suspicious.  Why wouldn't he do that to squelch the skeptics?  It does him no harm...

The lack of forthcoming information certainly is, though. I don't understand why it's such a problem.

actualy when determining guilt in a court of law the burden of proof is on the accuser.

but if you want me to explain it so you can understand it (having an extremely small troll brain) 

"HUR DUR YOU DO HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF"

Its not a problem for most people and thats the point. BCX is just being like a whiny little 2yr old that has been told he can't have his bag of lollies. The situation has been explained over and over but some people enjoy flogging a dead horse.

Baritus is quick to respond to any attacks on the exchange like a good dev should do so he should be commended for that. The bottom line is NO CryptoAve coins were lost due to its security measures once again UNLIKE other exchanges which have lost coins for its customers. I have no issue waiting for CAve to come back up and will keep trading there once its back up having full confidence in its dev and security measures.

 The more BCX carries on the more he is making himself look even more stupid than he already is. Heres a bigger shovel now  keep digging the hole for yourself BCX..

 I have not time to even debate with you man. With all these shananigans, and failure to provide support, how can I feel anything else but like I got screwed.

 Cave was supposed to be Nov., then Dec., when actually it was late Feb. Remeber this, and this is the ONLY reason I invested, and suggested others do. HE PROMISED USD. HE TOTALLY FAILED! This is what fucked every DGC holder. Unmet promises. Then come to find out a so called Dev doesn't even secure his own shit. That looks horrible. If he can't even secure his own workstation, what the fuck is supposed to give me confidence he can secure my coins in an exchange.

 Too much bullshit out there right now, folks stealing coins, I was robbed, I was DDoS'ed, I had a bug in the client.. whatever.. sick of the bullshit, come clean, or get the fuck out.

 BTW wise guy, I am diversified. You honestly think I would go balls deep on a coin when he had yet to perform? Yea, I will eat losses unlike most just to save face... Can you say the same Baritus?

 Again, where the fuck is USD to DGC?!?!?!

With this post you just showed how much of an idiot you are.

 Hey dickhead, Retard is a no no.. I truly find it offensive as I have a person you would call a "retard" in my distant family. Watch your fucking tongue son, it may bury you. I ain't telling you twice.

Thats the only thing you got out of the post? You want to tell me you are "Offended" by a word that means "Slow", guess what, I dont give two fucks if you are offended. Also, are you really threatening physical harm to someone on the internet? Yea, the "offensive word" stands. Thanks for playin tho, good luck "burying" me from over in internet land.

Actually I take it back, you're not a "Retard" you're whats known as a fair-weather investor. When other people are making you money and things are going great, you love whatever you are involved in. However as soon as one thing goes wrong, one hiccup in the overall plan, you jump on the "get our pitchforks and kill that fucker" bandwagon. Instead of holding on for the long term (which by the way is going to be much better than you all think) you would rather jump ship because the waiter got your order wrong. I am glad you are leaving and frankly I hope this loss costs you so much money that you have to leave the crypto world all together, cause I (along with so many other people) am tired of you and all the other people like you. The bullshit you cause in the community (IRC and posts on here) is not worth the absoloutley nothing you contribute to helping the community along.

So farewell Mr. Fair-Weather Investor. Good luck at your job, or whatever it is you do for the next 40 years till you can barely afford to retire!

For all the people bitching about him not fessing up details of his personal life.. just find the damn address yourself! That's kind of the whole POINT behind cryptocurrencies. Baritus holds no obligation to us about the address.

Just let this thread die already. Most people don't care, as they own no DGC. Please stop harassing this man's honest attempt at advancing cryptocurrencies and do something worthwhile with your life. I've been following DGC since the beginning and I don't feel screwed over at all; this environment is crazy competitive and any business attempt is going to be subject to the best hackers from around the globe. Baritus will continue devving DGC, which is all that really matters to me because he does it well.

This will be my only post here, trolls need to starve. Cool it BCX, life comes with no guarantees. I remain invested in DGC.

I like DGC, have been in as a pool op since the beginning, hold quite a bit.  One thing I've never understood though, is why dgc supporters are so damn quick to feed the trolls and stoop to levels of personal attacks, regardless of the targets.

Anyways, don't really care about this whole 500k stolen drama. Whether it was stolen, or he just dumped his own stash.  Even if he dumped it, it only looks marginally worse (debatable if at all), than having to close down an already delayed-by-3-months-exchange after only a few weeks of operation, that never delivered on its main promise of USD, with a summary explanation of 'php isn't secure enough for this environment'.  

I hope it gets sorted one way or another, for the sake of my own personal dgc stash/greed.  My only comment on the 500k coins drama,  is that its sad either way....either a very hardworking dev lost 500k coins, or after 10 months of work into his own project, realized it had no future and dumped.

But dev said in irc y'day, "if I can't fix bug then I'll turn code over to largest holders.  They can do what they want with it" (no exact but close enough).

Whats that mean?

(now fanbois brush off "oh no retard he just meant worst case, will never happen"
lol no, escape hatch? + mystery keylogger + ...)

Deeper...

He already addressed it, you choose to ignore it.

It depends on the legislation.

Anyhow, you could argue that Baritus is the accuser here. He's the one making the claim.

I am hesitant to post in such an ill-tempered thread, but the conversation linked above is, simply put, terrifying!
If there really is a trojan out in the wild capable of doing the stuff Baritus wrote, the implications are catastrophic.
Speaking as a code-blind person, would it be wrong to assume that one or all of the exchanges (I think there's eleven?) could be literally sitting on a time bomb right now? 

<baritus> through some PHP bug(I'm guessing) or some trojan that's going around, some hacker was able to reset password on c ave
<baritus> for a few users
<baritus> not sure how it's possible since I already looked at all my code and it doesn't allow for it ever
<baritus> and the other odd things is, they were able to get the verification email codes
<baritus> from the user's email accounts
<baritus> which I am not sure of how they did it either
<baritus> good news is, I had detection kick in that locked out those accounts
<baritus> so I still have everyone's funds
<baritus> but the bad news is, someone has a trojan embedded in a lot of crypto community or some unknown bug in PHP makes it completely insecure

Holy shit I need popcorn to keep up with this getting to be something worth reading Lmfao

Well that's quite a bold prediction. Lets just wait and see how it turns out.

Why do you care anyway ?

Derailing a thread that was an attempt at derailing whats really going on here? You are trying to slander/destroy baritus's name. Whats the matter, did he steal your girlfriend? Fuck your mom? I DEMAND AWNSERS! WHAT KIND OF TOILET PAPER DOES BARITUS USE! I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!

Another robbing? this is getting ridiculous! who robs?? the owners themselves??

A lame excuse kinda like the one you made stating (and i quote)


when someone asked you to provide proof?  OH YEA, you know all about excuses dont you

Lmfao

Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App

Noone said that, someone said that COULD have happened. but once again you changed peoples words. seems the only thing you are good for is editing other peoples conversation and speculating.

but on the brighter side of life, lets enjoy a nice joke.


How do you castrate someone like BCX?

Kick his dad in the chin while BCX is sucking him off.

No worries, just misdirection to hide real issue.

Only way you get viruses or keyloggers is ignorance by using windows.  Very little chance if you use secure operating system, not swiss cheese like ms software.

So don't be dumb and lazy...protect your coins!

BCX cares because this is how he makes money. He is not into muckraking but FUD spreading. Some of you may still remember that lots of people lost thousands of litecoins when he threatened to 51% Litecoin in 2012 and claimed he was behind the DDOS attacks of certain exchanges or pools. He labelled this "testing" of coins, supposedly doing the developer "a favor" (all BS of course). Nevertheless, FUD spread on the trollbox and while LTC was still young and inexpensive (maybe 3 cents) people weren't sure if they would lose their entire stash or feared it would become worthless. Everyone panicked and sold at market value, never getting the chance to buy back their coins for what they sold them for. I think the bottom was 0.003 BTC back then.

Consider yourself WARNED not to throw away your coins just the same. It's a scheme.

How does something like this happen without legal repercussion?

Whats the hardest thing about watching BCX die in a fiery car crash?

My dick.

/FUD Reflector On
Well buddy, it might just be your plan fails miserably this time. People will hold onto their coins. Oh, did I say thanks for all the free publicity yet? THANKS!

I'm not sure why 3 pages have gone by and no one has acknowledged this post.

MY ACCOUNT WAS ONE OF THE COMPROMISED ACCOUNTS AND I LOST NO COINS!

So what's the problem? Why is anyone even being questioned here? This is a NON ISSUE.

The only person with lost coins here is Baritus himself... and even if he chose to sell his own coins... that's his right. They are his to do with as he pleases.

its because BCX touches himself at night.

BCX is like Del Griffith x 10 on nasty pills. He's likeone of those stupid dolls that you have to pull the cord for and it says a whole heap of stupid sayings but in his case preprogammed self serving nonsense to further his bullshit agenda. Noone pulls the cord he pulls it himself. BLAH!, BLAH!, BLAH!, BLAH! Just shutup already!!

http://movieclips.com/wpPcq-planes-trains-and-automobiles-movie-chatty-cathy/

"and by the way, when your telling these amusing little stories, have a point, it makes it so much more amusing for the listener!"

 ;D

I wonder just how many cheap litecoins BCX bought as a result of that self-created BTC-E panic. 51% attack my ass. It must have been thousands or tens of thousands. Still waiting... oh 2014. Damn. Same shit, different coin.

On another note: hottest topic on blockcained.com for several days now. Keep up the awesome job, BCX. I don't think Baritus minds at all.

BCX's dad gets a call that BCX's mom is giving birth.

He races to the hospital, and waits eagerly in the waiting room. Eventually the doctor comes out with an odd look on his face.

"What's wrong doctor? Is my baby ok? Is it a boy or a girl?"

The doctor looks up at him. "It's the damndest thing. Your baby is a miracle, sir," he says.

The doctor leads the man into a room, where the baby is laying soundly, cuddled up in a blanket.

"Your baby can float. It's amazing! Watch!" The doctor lifts the child up a couple inches from the bed, then drops it. Nothing happens.

"What are you doing?" says the man. "Let me get my child and leave!"

"No, no, no! You have to see this. It did it before!" He picks up the child again, but this time drops it onto the floor. The baby hits the ground with a solid thud.

Totally distraught, with tears in his eyes, the man pleads for the doctor to stop.

"No, no, no! He totally did it! You HAVE to see this. It's a miracle!" The doctor picks the child up off the ground, and throws it out the window. The baby falls several stories and explodes on a car!

"OH MY GOD! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?" screams the man.

"Don't worry about it. The baby was a still-born. Haha! You should have seen the look on your face!"

that baby, was BCX

DUN DUN DUN!!!!

Because thread is actually about:

Dev gets hacked with custom keylogger on his windows box.
Handwaves, no public address to verify 500k gone.
Exchange gets hacked but only 9 accounts, no way to verify.
Says bug somewhere in php libs.
No wait, gmail insecure.
No wait, others dumb enough to use windows, must be trojan against (only) those 9.
No wait, it's all the baddies attacking my php.
No wait, I said in irc there are NO bugs in my code.
Oh wait, if I can't find bug I'll give up and large holders can have code.

Maybe not issue for you...

lol @inthemoney25

thats a pretty extensive list of changes in this thread. perhaps BCX is autistic?

Thanks znnew, Theres more coming :P


What's the difference between BCX's story and a bowling ball? if I really had to I could swallow a bowling ball

hahahahaha

+1

Gambit, wheres your jerky!? rofl

I can't imagine what BCX's parents are going through.

Probably "So you decided not to get the abortion" Brochures....Reminiscing of a better time, when they could have had a life without him.

For an official DGC rep, you sure know how to state the integrity of the coin. I'm sorry, but BCX has brought up valid points. Valid points I myself as an investor would like addressed. Your whole balls and swallowing shit is very unlike any reputable person/company I know. Let alone would ever invest in. Oh wait, I fucked that up already.....

Why even post


~BCX~
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/IEsZJSX6nJM/hqdefault.jpg

This desperate guy named Jim goes to the whorehouse with 5$. He buys a the cheapest prostitute named Sandpaper Sally(BCX's Mom). As they start to have sex, Jim screams, "Ouch! Now I know why they call you Sandpaper Sally!(BCX's Mom)" Sally(BCX's Mom) scoots out of the room. Five minutes later she came back and Jim attempts sex once again. "What the hell happened?" asks Jim, "This is the best sex I''ve ever had!" Sally(BCX's Mom) replies, "Oh, I just picked my scabs and let the pus run out."

HOLY SHIT! Call the newspaper!

Dev getting hacked is a personal issue and has nothing to do with the exchange.

Exchange did not get hacked... it was an ATTEMPT to hack. My account was one of the compromised ones and I lost NO COINS.

It was shut down as a precautionary measure. NO coins were lost.

NO COINS LOST for compromised accounts = NOT A SUCCESSFUL HACK = NON ISSUE.

It doesn't matter what was or was not given up as far as information goes. At the end of the day, no customer coins were lost... so who the fuck cares?

 Wow. Simply WOW. This is the official media rep for DGC and these are the types of responses we can expect... yea, get out now guys. This coin is doomed. You simply cannot speak to holders this way, especially when they are looking to the devs/promoters for guidance. Baritus, has yet to give a reasonable explanation, and we have their media rep insulting left and right... GET OUT NOW.

He's not the official media rep.

yeah like BCX shows any respect to anyone. Constant FUD and antagonising and polarising many alt coin communities over the years. He deserves no respect.

 DGC has some of the hardest working and nicest people out of any alt coin communities. What we take a offence to is blatant ignorance and shit-stirring from people. Baritus has given his account on what has happened. People can either believe it or not. If you don't then quit bitching and go find some other coin. Noone has lost any coins on CAve so as mentioned by others its a NON issue.

Baritus may not be the fastest worker in getting projects completed but he does deliver in the end on what he says he will do. Some people have no patience and want everything done yesterday. I am supporting DGC because I believe in Baritus, services and projects that have already been done and what the DGC community is working towards long term.

 USD for DGC? How's that working out?

I don't know what the problem is here. I am just posting the same level of intelligence that BCX has been spouting the last week or so. So if posting shitty jokes in a shitty thread makes me a bad person, I guess I am one of the worst!

Also Scrappy_D0, BCX has stated he is not an investor, he is a conscientious concerned  crypto citizen. So technically I am not speaking to someone who is a "DGC Holder", as far as you tho, you have stated you are done with this community and are jumping ship, so once again, not speaking with a DGC holder.

If anyone thinks I have been serious with any of these jokes, I do apologize.

For the rest of the rational people that realize that someone doing something like this may have a reason for it. Hey, whats up. You should check out Digitalcoin! The community is really fun to be around and as long as people aren't overly ignorant or accuse people of things that are impossible to prove one way or another, we are drama free! I realize how ironic that may seem but its true lol.


tl;dr

cant take a joke man?

From investor to mangy mutt.

About as good as all that GPL and KED you mined and told everyone else to mine

USD verification of accounts had started and sell orders in USD were up. Once accounts were verified they were allowed to deposit USD according to the last time I spoke to Baritus before these hacking attempts.

USD (fiat) to DGC in about 2 weeks on www.prelude.io, an exchange that launched under www.moolah.io and now accepts Digitalcoin. All of Moolah's services will be integrated with DGC on Wednesday. Just stating facts, I'm not here to fight, carry on.

Why are you mining DGC and then spreading all this BS and FUD you are basically shooting yourself in the foot? If you had half a brain you would be helping the community instead. never picked you for a closet DGC supporter

 Moral of the story. Berry claims he was robbed.. meaning the wallet was stolen and wiped out and dumped. Meaning the wallet is useless at this point but will not provide an address as a "pride" issue as best described to me in DGC IRC. Now if in fact wallet were stolen, and wiped out, why would you not post it so all holders of DGC can see it on the chain?

 Fact is me and BCX have had it out several times here before. Simply check my post history, I called him a cocksucker several times. But yet he raises the most valid of points. If said wallet was stolen, why not publish it? I would, had I made a crucial mistake like this, and at least folks would know they buying my stolen coins.

 Then again BCX also shows that 500k DGC sold for almost 30k in a day. Sorry 30k USD in a day ain't no chump change.

 Baritus, simply post the address please as an investor. Shit ain't adding up.

Maybe you missed this when I posted it a few days ago :

This is the block which I believe contains all the stolen coin transactions from March 8th

http://dgc.blockr.io/block/info/758830

As you will all know very well the block shows every address where coins come from and where they go to.

^ Add that up

Personnal issue my ass! Why do a PUBLIC THREAD THEN?

Non issue my ass! Why did it warrant an EXCHANGE CLOSURE THEN?



How can you be sure? Everyone can infer that, we need confirmation by Baritus. Also, it does not add up to 560k.

http://s3.postimg.org/lig44ek2b/tumbleweed_o.gif (http://postimage.org/)

We have another slow one on our hands.

We can be sure because this is the block with more than 5 million days destroyed.

Most DGC blocks only contain the coinbase transaction and have a zero or low amount of days destroyed as you can see from the attached image.

The highlighted parts show much larger than usual days destroyed numbers.

You can quickly scroll through this page by page at dgc.blockr.io if you want.

It doesn't add up to 560k, it adds up to 646,081.21490442 DGC

It's not outside the realms of possibility that whoever did this also transferred some other coins from somewhere else to dump at the same time or someone else also did a transaction which was included in the same block - this is a common phenomenon and is why we have a distributed block chain.

http://s28.postimg.org/pwltjvjrh/dgctheft.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

"Personnal issue my ass! Why do a PUBLIC THREAD THEN?"

Way to get instant price support for large sale:
- Not enough buy walls to dump so many quietly.
- So announce as theft to the community.
- Existing holders need to support price of their position, others vulture, doesnt matter
- Lots of btc step up at accepteble prices to absorb it.
- Profit.

- Oh and never release address details...

Did you read my last post? LOL!!! I had a hunch there. Turns out this indeed is a BCX publicity stunt following the one only rule: there's no such thing as bad publicity.

Hello McFly! Helloooo anybody hoome?? Why would Baritus dump 500k dgc at 0.0001 after spending nearly a year on DGC services and CryptoAve. Ridiculous. I have spoken to him personally and he is not going anywhere. The theft of the coins has only hardened his resolve to make DGC successful. He is working hard to further tighten security on Cave and have it back up and running.

Time to move on and work to get DGC back on track this thread is going round and round in circles getting nowhere.

Yes this caught me quite by surprise... lol

Ok so if you donate 100% to the pool, that means you aren't  a holder of DGC, you are supporting the pool. Also you JUST came onto that pool. I am on that site all the time and have never seen you listed there. So thats a great way to attempt to look like a great guy, but it backfired and you look like an idiot.

Nah, i prefer to let the inevitable unfold while holding my tongue.

I'll take a guess.

Does it mean that he will attempt to hack the site, steal the coin and do lots of illegal things that the FBI will be interested in ?

Am I right ?

lets just say he has been involved with the following:

300 gbps ddos attack lasting months against cryptsy.

illegal botnet operation in excess of 350,000 clients.

transaction malleability.

he experiments with forking coins.

he forked feathercoin, terracoin, tagcoin(on launch day no less), nanotoken etc.

he's successfully doublespent many coins(including BTC).

his former accomplice, ArtForz has been missing for years.

he is also rumored to have been involved with the hacking/theft of Bitcoinica in 2012

Interesting, so he's a well known criminal hacker. One day this guy will be arrested if he goes too far.

I wonder if these attacks were coordinated via this forum which is hosted or funded by MtGox.

I'm looking for an angle to tie it into the government investigations into MtGox hacks and Bitcoin / crypto exchange hacking. If he's done all this then he is definitely going to be a person of interest in the current MtGox investigations.

I would really like to find a way to link hacking investigations of other exchanges back to the MtGox incidents via information gathered here, thanks for your input into the situation.

There must be a treasure trove of evidence on this forum. I'd like to find a way to insert him into the ongoing investigations.

This thread should be preserved as I believe it will one day be used as evidence.

Mods : Please DO NOT remove this thread in any way as I believe it will be useful to law enforcement as a source in the gathering of evidence on this hacker gang.

Yeah sounds like a good move. About time people like this are brought to justice.

This is good information, please post anything else you have, we're compiling a huge list of everything we can find right now.

One tiny link to the current MtGox situation is all it will take to have this guys head pop up above their radar.

Using the MtGox situation and any possible link, however small will enable us to leverage ongoing criminal investigations against this organised group. We only have to get them interested then they will do all the work.

look what the cat drags in

You've been leaving quite a trail over the years.

Nobody is physically coming for you, this is mere information which will be forwarded to the relevant lawyers and investigators.

lol samson

You already have the relevant details in the block explorer. This is definitely the block concerned so you know the addresses already.

Why are you not going through these addresses proving your theories ?

to bad we don't have someone like this to track down TF

"BCX" is a complete dork, he's here to hate.

Everybody knows that. Why do you keep responding to his remarks and please, why did you send him such a ridiculous PM?

Time wasted entirely

If they gets nailed to the wall for thier illegal activities thats one less "Dork" causing issues and creating drama for the Cryptocoin community as a whole. Job well worth doing in my book.

TF?

BTW r3wt, i like your avatar pic, it looks neat :P

You can not and won't be able to do anything against BCX other than ignoring.

But how much does he bench?

the bar if i had to guess...

i wish i had 350k friends

Oh please, do some research instead of blabbering on and on about what you could / should / might want to do. You are a common thief and blatherer. I hope some relevant authorities will find out your name and track you down and connect you to above mentioned crimes. You have the right to remain silent. You're the last person to go around making accusations. Oh, I forgot, you can't reason with a psychopath. Everyone who wants to know those addresses can look them up in said block. It's not gonna help you with your smear campaign against the dev. Furthermore, you have been caught distorting facts to your agenda. I'm even convinced that you are the attacker against CryptoAve now. Too bad your attack didn't work out as you planned, so you have to continue your raid with other means. F A I L

You pounded the nail, dead center.  :P

You forgot to add 9/11  :P

eThugs

I am also- Functioning Stoned

Are you saying you did attack Bitparking and BTC-e ?

you are still talking?

you, sir, have foretold the future LOLOLOL

You have all the information you need. Go read the transactions on the blockchain linked and find this 'smokin gun' evidence you believe exists.

I suspect there isn't any. Backup your claims with detailed blockchain analysis.

The fact that you're not doing this suggests you know it's a trail that leads nowhere.

The information has all been available to everyone since this theft happened on March 8th.

Yet all we hear is nothing.....only repeated slurs and unwarranted demands.

you must have missed this......

Edited:

All deposited coins were repaid to customers. I received mine within 24 hours. Others did as well.

wait...so you are saying the exchange was robbed? and Bart paid everyone back with his own? ???

If people actually check these threads from the start they will read as stated by Baritus himself and evidenced from customers for example Danny that NO coins were lost on CryptoAve during the hacking attempts. Security measures that were in place alerted CAve admin to these unsuccessful hacking attempts.

Once again this in contrast to other exchanges such as Gox etc which lost coins.  All customers have been able to withdraw the coins they had on the exchange while the security enhancements are being put in place as we speak. Overall I'd say a job well done by CAve admin to catch these attempts without customer loss. Looking forward to it back up and running soon.

thanks for throwing me under the bus(users can still withdraw their funds from OpenEx btw)

If people actually check these threads, ive been here since 4th page...and I JUST posted dannys quote last page.

Disclaimers post is confusing.

Ok fair enough I didn't realise funds were returned there after the breach. Will update my post.

no there were funds lost, i was holding withdrawals on the deficient withdrawals while i built the little system to track who lost what and create a code system so they could recieve a "debt share" when the new OpenEx platform launches. that way there is atleast a hope they can get their coins back.

Sorry if confusing, just wanted to be clear that people got back their deposits from CryptoAve, so there cannot be any new "announcement".

Okay, I would just clarify that it was there DEPOSITS they got back. It sounded like their coins were taken.

Yeah, rumors that you made up yourself...

This sounds like an attempt at muddying the waters. Baritus had 560k DGC stolen. It's not linked to the C.AVE attempted hack issues.

Then there were hack attempts at C.AVE leading to it being shutdown and a manual withdrawal process has been initiated. As I understand it parts of the exchange are being recoded to prevent future attacks leading to service disruption. This process is underway as we speak.

BOOM

or because it's exactly what baritus has said himself, idiot.  you are such a bad troll.

BOOM
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I speak to Baritus on IRC on an occasional basis as we're working to build something out of CryptoAve and the DGc, SRC and ARG coins.

BCX, you really need to get off those big pharma meds and switch to a more natural substance like THC.

I speak to Baritus on IRC on an occasional basis as we're working to build something out of CryptoAve and the DGc, SRC and ARG coins.

[/quote]

Bart and I had a steak dinner together over webcam a few weeks ago. Ah! such an intelligent chap & he is kinda cute.  ::)

BCX is the guy that thinks Marijuana causes cancer.

BCX couldn't be more wrong about THC  (I surely hope) , but he has a valid point on this matter.

it is all a bit dodgy, so why not take away every misunderstanding.


Let Baritus make a statement here with details, that should stop FUD...no obligations to do it, but he surely knows how it works in cryptoland.

Lulz! I wonder if BCX is transgender? I have always thought so for some reason.

can you clarify this? so in fact there are lost funds? who will cover for them? are the clients losing anything? if yes - why don't you take the resposibility instead of them??

That post was about openex.pw, not cryptoave.

He has already made multiple statements.  The only FUD here is you BCX.

The Openex hack shouldn't have been discussed in this thread to begin with.

I had coins in Openex and withdrew them by the time frame given, no problems.

I don't understand why people are even talking with this BitcoinEXpress ... you guys are just feeding his self ego ... if this guy is a hacker than all you are n00bs here(did you ever seen a hacker that likes to be praised on the bad things that he accomplished?! ... it's not called a hacker if that is the case) ....  most likely another script kiddie looking for some people to give him credit for some hacks that he obviously did not execute. Doing a DDos is as easy as mining for coin here ... get the script online ... run on a server ... tadaa ... you are a fricking hacker. pfff   :D ... dude are you part of the Anonymous indeed ?!  wow  ::)

HE stole them.

Pretty fucking simple.

He stole his own coins?

duh  ;D

This is a lie.

If he had coins and sold them why would he have to admit it at all?  It's not like anyone would know unless he told them anyway.

You make no sense. Even if he had sold a bunch of his own coins that he supposedly stole from himself, he had any right to do so at any given time. It would be disappointing because he would really have to be a total idiot as he could have sold them AT ANY FUCKING TIME over the past year when they were worth much much more than over the past two weeks. Extremely weak motive, esp as he continues to work as hard as ever to improve DGC at the moment.

Edit: New website is in the pipe. New algo adjustment is underway to further counter the multipool effect. CryptoAve is being reprogrammed to make it more secure. Services are added every day now and things are moving. I suspect you have ulterior motives.

BCX is flat out trolling you. he posts outrageous claims constantly without any proof. you have two options: sue him for harassment/slander or simply hit the ignore button.

Stop making accusations without proof.

Dont reply to that idiot anymore.  We all know he spouts nonsense.

No accusations made, I see. Post proof or go to hell. Otherwise we're done here. And welcome back to my 2012-ignore-list. Was bout time.

If you have something why not just post it?

Because he's a troll.   Just ignore him, he trolls everyone.

Then he needs to post something, since he's this great master hacker detective.   If not, then shut the fuck up.  Seems to be onesided troll speculation to me.

https://www.cryptsy.com/pages/privacy


That's ok I guess, they didn't state they won't share the personal info for free to others.

The main problem is that the block HAS been found and it has been shown by myself, and samson that the coins were moved on that day. So tell me, what is the difference between us finding the address and baritus posting the address? Thats what confuses me. Also I am guessing your fav part of the thread is my great jokes?

Is that any different than what bcx here has been doing? :)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE for the thousandth fucking time PLEASE post the proof! If you did have proof and could post it for us, you would be the jesus christ of crypto's. Problem is you have nothing, so please, make me look like an idiot, or leave this thread and every other DGC thread (related to this topic) forever

only one thing for scum like this !!!!! and it comes out the end of a gun

I can't see how.  ???



Figured that would be a possibility but also why would he then want to damage cryptsy's reputation even further. Someone could easily start a campaign "boycott cryptsy! they give your private info to criminals!"

So just by saying you didn't say it makes it instantly debunked? ok  :D

I'm not saying who is telling the truth you or baritus I couldn't basically care less. Cryptsy just happens to hit a nerve here as well.

Translation "I know something you don't know, na-na na-na boo boo stick your head in doo doo"

Proof! Cold hard, non circumstantial Proof! You owe the community that, think of it as a service for being a massive fruitstick since you first came into this community.

This man speaks words of wisdom.

Dev says hack of exchange and massive losses due to heartbleed.  http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php/topic,1010.0.html

And he detected heartbleed before anyone else so really impressive skill, I feel better trusting dev now.

You're trying very hard to 'muddy the waters' here with an ambiguous and somewhat spiteful post.

There's no claim about detecting heartbleed before anyone else, he just knew that something wasn't right and according to the post he knew it wasn't his code. In fact you're the only person making a claim about detecting heartbleed...

Why is that ?

This thread, and resulting crash, moved me to unload my DigitalCoin completely.

If it ain't BTC or DOGE, then I ain't interested.

Panic sell much?

On a side note, I see first grade is still happening here.

You must be subnormal if you think this thread caused anything to do anything.

An attacker that gained information through the heart bleed bug is 100% undetectable.


Bartius your a fucking liar.

But the whole community of crypto experts are wrong and Bartius is the savior. What a joke.

Yeah thats it.  Abby Normal, that's me.

This asset was turning toxic, and it lost 75% value in like a month.

 

There are two separate things that happened here, so better don't mix them up.

1 - Dev was robbed and this incident is unrelated to CrptoAve and happened much earlier.

2 - CryptoAve was attacked and shutdown before users' funds were compromised. All users received back their deposits. CryptoAve will be reopened soon.

Much of this thread is FUD. DigitalCoin price lost value because tens of thousands of DGC were sold on the market at market price, repeatedly. Even if Dev should have sold his own coins it would A- be the dumbest thing to do after one year of persistent and now continued work on the coin, selling at the worst possible time ever, and B- would be a redistribution of coins cheaply from the single largest holder of DGC. It would mean Dev loses out on a much larger sum in the future.

On top, we have seen Bitcoin go from over $ 1000 to under $ 400 in a matter of weeks. This has an effect on all altcoins because most coins are bought and sold mainly by buying/selling Bitcoins for fiat money.

More on the heartbleed connection and the CryptoAve hack attempt:

http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php/topic,1010.msg7019.html#new

To panic sellers. Watch and learn. DGC will lift off again in the future. Dev is doing the right thing. CryptoAve will reopen very soon.

I didn't panic so much as I became disinterested in Alt coins in general.

I got rid of my LTC after a short stint because there is no point in LTC.  If I want real value, I will go with BTC.  If I want speed, popularity, big-market, and a high-liquidity coin then DOGE beats LTC handily.  Even the LTC developer wants to join forces with DOGE.

The alt coin herd is thinning, and DGC is losing.  Too bad really, I thought it was well developed.

Well I'll be holding on to mine all the same.

Coblee wanting to join forces with Doge is a sign of desperation really. In the past coins that were merge mined with Bitcoin didn't do well at all, look at Namecoin today. It precisely lost its value due to the fact it is merge mined. So, it could also be a trick to keep Doge in check. I wouldn't put my money on Litecoin nor Dogecoin though. There isn't a lot of potential for huge gains in Litecoin anymore, nor do we see service development for it, and Doge is simply a Meme pump and dump with an IBM developer in the back who got lucky. Pass.

Sometimes its better to be lucky than good.

Best to stay in DGC.  Once Baritus finishes ripping off, renaming and taking credit for someones else's anti-multipool code for v2.0 it is going up up up!   ::)

I knew you'd come around eventually  :o

Hahah this thread is comedy gold. So much desperate FUD from BCX and his sockpuppets. Anyone that thinks this thread made dgc drop down is living on fantasy island. "Dee plaaane!, deee plaaane!"  ;D

@ BCX - Nice desperate revive of a dead and buried thread. Obviously it must have come around again on your bi-monthly checklist of shitstirring and FUD threads.

BCX is like an annoying chihuahua that just won't shutup. A stupid and annoying useless mut that people laugh at because they look and sound so ridiculous. Basically all hot air and bravado until they eventually push things too far, meet a bigger dog and get eaten...

@ Mudda fudda - For a start learn how to spell its Baritus not "Bartius". The logical explanation is the heartbleed bug when it fits the method used to gain partial data from CAVe which could have only been via an SSL exploit. Trust level -4 eh, I guess we better take your FUD seriously!  :D

@ Beef Supreme - DGC turning toxic? I guess all alts and even Bitcoin must be toxic seeing as they are all down. Wonderful logic there. Genius actually!

@ Hilux74 - Baritus doesn't need to 'ripoff' anyones code. You don't think a guy that can code an exchange from the ground up and dev multiple coins is capable of writing his own new algorithm?

I'll be holding my dgc along with my btc, ppc and other alts that are in my portfolio. Those communities will show the FUD merchants that actions speak louder than words..

What is toxic in your portfolio is not the same as what is toxic in mine.

every single thing you just said is 100% pure bullshit and it would take me ages to address it all you spouted off so much dumb crap lol

give the FUD stuff a rest its old and so 2013.. facts are facts.

BCX always make logical rational comments that make sense to me.. and you wouldn't be so desperate to discredit and attack him unless this wasn't the case i think.
Baritus coidng a web site has nothing to do with putting coins out.. web design is a tad different to say the least lol
And Baritus claiming to be a great coder ? Well no offense to him but i see stuff like Securecoin.. i guess he borrowed some Quark code and is giving it back later ? lol
A fishy story is a fishy story..

Hahah oh puleeeease thats a bit rich coming from an A class bullshitter like yourself. How many times and forums have you been banned from again? BCX  and logical , rational don't go together in the same sentence.  :D ;D.

Do you have even the slightest clue how difficult it is to program an exchange like CAVe from the ground up yourself?? We are talking thousands of lines of code, testing etc you goose. I'm pretty sure given this ability he can most likely develop code and algorithms for his altcoins as well. You might want to check some facts before talking complete horseshit.

LoL @ 500k of supposedly fair coin.

There are roughly 144 million DigitalCoins in the future, about ten % of them are mined now.

500k is a lot, but DGC is known for a 100% fair start, no instamine, and no premine. If he owned 500k, he bought most of them. It isn't hard to have so many coins. I have over 100k myself, most which I bought at 3000 satoshis before the price rise to 60000 satoshi last fall. It's nothing, if you were a Bitcoin and Litecoin early adopter. Heck, you can buy tens of thousands of DGC right now at almost the same cheap price that I bought at last year.

Yeah right. Thats why he created more coins.. To buy them. Yeah right.


Btw it was not fair start, and I know, because I mined them. There was period of flash mine or whatever u want to call it.

Maybe you should go fuck yourself.

I have to agree with BCX on this one (which is rare :D).

I am a long time supporter of DGC and hold a fair chunk.

In the interest of those who have invested in Digitalcoin why not just resolve this once and for all. I don't even care if Baritus sold the coins to be honest, if they were his he can do what he wants with them as far as I am concerned. The longer this goes on the more the reputation of Digitalcoin gets damaged.

If the coins were stolen, post the address. If not admit you sold the coins (everyone needs cash now and then - nothing wrong with that). End of story, and we can all move on.

Secondly, I hate to say it but, the level of personal attacks on BCX does not reflect well on Digitalcoin supporters. Ad hominem attacks on BCX really show there is no sound argument for not disclosing the addresses which is all BCX is asking.

It would take Baritus all of a few minutes to post those addresses.

The question is this: Does the arguably severe level of damage this is doing to Digitalcoin not warrant Baritus spending 5 minutes to come and address this issue once and for all?  I can find no reason why Baritus or someone else in the know will not do this, even if it is public information, not everyone is a block chain detective!

Lastly, I actually believe Baritus is telling the truth, which makes it even harder for me to understand why he won't personally post the adresses.

Ad hominem attacks are the only way to deal with trolls who spread confusion and nothing else. The damage you speak of is free promotion. Most new users didn't even know about DGC a month ago because DGC has been terrible on marketing. I judge the dev not by what a known computer hacker claims
(who has been derailing market prices since the first Litecoin crash, for which he is responsible by threatening to 51% Ltc in summer 2012 and DDOSing major pools and services) but by what I can see the dev has actually done for the currency. Solid work and constant improvements.

Fine, he "stole his own coins". Believe it and be happy. Meanwhile, in DGC land people are actually working on improving the coin.

I respectfully disagree. Ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy and are usually pulled out in order to discredit someones character while not addressing the real issue.

I really fail to see how this 'free promotion' is anything but negative in terms of Digitalcoin. How many people, who didn't previously know about Digitalcoin, do you honestly think will read this thread and think, "there is a good looking, positive, drama and rumor free coin to invest in"?

Your comment about judging the dev is precisely my point as you simply go on to discredit BCX's character in order to invalidate his valid questions.

As you might notice I did say that I believe Baritus. So it logically follows I don't think he 'stole his own coins'.

I would actually like DGC to do well, for the dedicated DGC community and for my own personal benefit as a holder. But I have come to a point where I have bitten my own lip for long enough and think enough is enough and this issue should once and for all be put to rest. I am not attacking Baritus' character or defending BCX's character.

My point is, address the issue, give BCX and others what they want as they are really not asking for much and lets let this thread slip into history! Simple.

Or... Continue with this stubborn refusal to not post the addresses and let BCX cause even more damage in one way or another. I sure as hell know what I would choose if I was Baritus.

BS. Why do you have to lie so hard? The lowest DGC was EVER TRADED in history is 3,000 Satoshi on 11/18/13 probably a few minutes or low volume not even 100k in DGC. Chances of you being the person who bought them at that price are almost certainly zero. Why the F do you brag about something you actually have not done?

Its funny that you act all HUMBLE too, saying "It's nothing" [for you], [no big deal] like that 70 BTC you "almost" had for a few minutes on Dec 15th, 2013,  is NOTHING to you.

I bet the greedy you didnt even cash out.

This kind of bragging language with a mountain of BS behind it seriously bugs me on this forum.

https://i.imgur.com/aK0NkKn.jpg

I did buy all the way down to 3000 satoshis. The price was a bargain for such a well maintained coin. Then I sold some again for 25-30k. I also mined DGC since last summer. 70 Bitcoins is indeed a lot of money. But I mined Litecoin from June 2012, and Bitcoin from June 2011. Having a much harder time getting over selling 500 Bitcoins for 5-10 Dollars. That hurt a bit, but who could have known back then. Also, I never put a single dollar in Bitcoin besides mining.

It was and it is very easy to buy 100k DGC then and now.

The chart actually shows that what I say is correct. You could buy thousands of coins for cheap for a sustained period of time. That's what I did, and I'm not the only one. And if you are clever you will see this altcoin and bitcoin low as the perfect chance to get in.

Do you want to inform me about my DGC holdings? Now, you are funny. DGC rocks and I will hold on to the coin and continue to support it. Whoever stole Baritus' coins and dumped them in the middle of a price depression is an idiot. You are so convinced that he took his own coins and dumped them that you even rule out the possibility someone might have actually stolen them from him.

This timeline doesn't make sense:

• 16 March 2014: Baritus announces closure of CryptoAve citing security concerns.
• 03 April 2014: OpenSSL vulnerability (dubbed Heartbleed) is uncovered by team of security engineers.
• 07 April 2014: Knowledge of Heartbleed is made public.
• 09 April 2014: Baritus makes the claim that Heartbleed was exploited to attack CryptoAve.

Baritus has claimed that CryptoAve was attacked with the Heartbleed vulnerability roughly one month prior to the vulnerability being uncovered and made public. If an individual had knowledge of this flaw before the the entire world, why would that individual choose to attack CryptoAve of all places? Why not go after a much larger website? Why not sell the knowledge of this vulnerability to the highest bidder?

This does not make any rational sense.

Sources:
http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php/topic,951.0.html
http://heartbleed.com/
http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php/topic,1010.0.html

The heartbleed bug existed in the wild for months before it was made public.

It has been in the code for roughly two years. The point to all of this is why CryptoAve? If one has knowledge of this flaw, why would one attack a brand new exchange with few users and no potential to profit for doing so?

While cryptoave was small, it still had a good amount of money on it worth stealing.  I'm not at all saying it did or didn't happen, as I'm neutral on it until real proof of what happened comes out.

Things are a lot more complicated than the above simplicity and we know for sure that Heartbleed was known before April 3rd.

Did you know that CloudFlare were notified of the Heartbleed bug at the end of March ? I'm going to assume you didn't know this due to the incorrect information in your above post.

So what could have happened with Heartbleed and how come some people knew about it way before others ?

Why did Cloudflare and who knows who else receive advance warnings when pretty much most of the rest of the world didn't ?

I believe I know the answer to this question and it's all to do with who found it. They're a commercial security company with paying customers.

I'll bet this company (Codenomicon, google them) found the issue at some point over the last few months and have been 'hawking' it to their existing customers and maybe picking up a few new customers along the way - quite probably Cloudflare is one of these customers.

Codenomicon are a commercial entity so this is exactly how anyone would expect them to operate.

The golden question to which nobody knows the answer is when was it first discovered ? Who knew about it and when did they know ? It was definitely before March 30th but this information has not been published anywhere, not yet anyway.

I hope one day we find out when the vuln was first discovered, I'm sure it was way before it was made public.

If you look back to the first weeks of March there were a lot of different sites being hacked every other day.

Gox had gone and I suspect they were coming for the leftovers.

I've posted the basic facts. I see that CloudFlare claims to have been notified prior to 03 April, but the facts I provided are not incorrect according to the sources. It is entirely possible, and probable, that individuals knew of Heartbleed before these recent weeks. I know that you are a supporter of Digitalcoin and will defend it in all instances, but you cannot deny that it seems odd CryptoAve would have been attacked with this flaw. The volume on the exchange was minimal, and the deposit amount was no doubt minimal as well.

To me, the order of events seems suspicious and convenient. If someone can prove to me otherwise, I will concede. I hope for your sake and the sake of others that Baritus is more than confident with the security of CryptoAve when it launches again. BCX will be relentless.

I had 100's of thousands of various coins on CryptoAve prior to the attempted hack.

The true timeline of the heartbleed story is only starting to emerge now, I'm sure we will all learn more about this extraordinary incident in the coming weeks and months.

I wouldn't be surprised if this exploit was used against Gox.

I feel sorry for him but I am also wondering about his security awareness. If he can't secure his own funds I doubt he is able to guarantee the safety of funds on CryptoAve. This guy could also have stolen the admin login details or accessed the cold storage (if there is cs???).

If you had physical access to the computer where I store all my coins you could steal them all if you got a keylogger on there, however nobody apart from me has physical access to my coin storage computer.

It's been made clear that the computer where these coins were stored had nothing to do with CryptoAve - remember not all people operate out of a basement with a single computer.

i got half way through what you said and had to reply asap !
YES thank you !
If simply posting the attackers address who you claim stole your coins will shut people up then why not do it ? what is there to hide ?
Hell if he was honest about the theft he knows BCX could help him track the guy down maybe or at least vindicate Baritus and be able to back up and verify his claim.
This is like the Carbon coin crap i went through recently guys bend over backwards to hide what that their left hand is doing while screaming look at my right hand.

This ain't Facebook and i don't care who wants to be my BFF lol
A discussion about financial activity is fair..

And to the other guy bad mouthing me about web design etc..
I had coded from scratch web site systems using straight HTML and PHP etc way back like 10 years ago roughly
I made a system for an Auction house that wanted inexperienced users to be able to upload a lot of pictures to their site etc all the time
so i wrote them a system tailored to what they asked me for.. it stayed in operation for ages until they sold the business.
Another example is 10 years ago i wrote a PHP shopping carts system from scratch and integrated Paypal into it and i used that
to set up my own web site and sell a collection of thousands of vintage Playboy magazines i got at an auction cheap.
First one that sold was the Madonna cover one from the 80's lol
I actually have a lot of web design experience so i will repeat back to you word for word "You might want to check some facts before talking complete horseshit"

And hashing algo's ? like what ? how i reverse engineered the hashing algo's used on my Windows Firewall and made a keygen by writing hashing algo's for it ?
Want to see some keygen source code ? I got plenty of experience in my PC gaming cracking group days 10 years ago ;) and yeah my work was pre'd and VERY popular.
every played a cracked version of Half life 2 or Counter Strike or Steam ? most likely half of you out there have had my code on your machines lol
I have been paid for contracting from my CAN Government before too and a major international corp has had me on called for a decade as their emergency does everything computer guy..
Want to hear more bragging ? How about some of the biggest hacking new stories that have happened in the last 10 years have been by old buddies of mine ?
How about i made my own file sharing program that used various "algo's" lol
How about all the free software and cracks i have coded and put online almost always open source want me to list them ?
For example i coded the worlds only crack (jailbreak) for a line of LG cell phones that came out some years ago that allowed users to add unlimited games and apps
even when the so called experts said it was impossible because of the drm protection employed.. they were wrong and i coded an extensive GUI app to hack the phone.
Want More bragging ? i can go and on and on ;)

BCX is not here to help anyone but himself. Your knight in shining armor.

Once and for all do everyone a favour and shut your piehole. No one here cares about your script kiddy botnets and fantasy land stories that never amount to anything. Baritus nor the DGC community deserves the BS and muckraking that you are continually trying to spread about them. Did you lose any coins? Did anyone lose any coins? Has anyone been ripped off? Is DGC expensive for new or old to invest in at the moment? NO, so STFU. Meanwhile DGC continues to gather momentum with new development and services which will speak louder than any words ever will.

  Maybe the Australian federal police will be ready for you once CryptoAve starts back up. No doubt they have a strong presence in the Melbourne area. Actually I may just give my father a call and ask him to contact his good friend who was a recent chief of Victorian police to assist. He would certainly be able to make a few calls to expedite the process. There is quite a file list on you that can easily be passed to them.

A starting point would be to report BCX to Cert Australia which I will be doing before I call in the favour from my fathers friend. I would encourage anyone else who's site he as attacked or threatened to file a report.

https://www.cert.gov.au/report

"We work in the Cyber Security Operations Centre, sharing information with other key cyber security agencies and our international counterparts. This means we are very well connected and informed, which is a great asset in helping businesses protect themselves from cyber attacks.

CERT Australia (the CERT) is the national computer emergency response team.  The CERT is part of the Federal Attorney-General’s Department, with offices in Canberra and Brisbane. We also work in the Cyber Security Operations Centre, sharing information and working closely with the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). In addition, we work closely and share information with our international counterparts. "

Whether he sold the coins or they were actually stolen by an employee has been done to death. If he hasn't said anymore on it by now he probably isn't going to or HAS actually told the truth. He has not run away and is still actively moving forward as planned with DGC as usual so why do you even care other than to  bignote yourself as some kind of Sherlock Holmes or to try and drive the price further down. The stranger thing in all this is you admitted in the past you mine dgc (Why would you do that and spread FUD unless you are trying to accumulate more dgc at super low prices??).

It makes no difference to the current price of DGC if he sold the coins himself or not. He was entitled to do so even if it would have been a dumb trading move. The DGC price went down along with all other alts in line with the Bitcoin price drop so its no big 'mystery'

My problem I have is with you threatening CryptoAve and threatening/attacking other websites which is just plain wrong and is why I am proceeding to file a report to CERT and following up with other relevant authorities in the interests of protecting hardworking coin communities from idiots like yourself who have nothing better to do than disrupt the livelihood of other people.

BCX may well be relentless. Anyone attacking an exchange will be reported to the relevant authorities.

Having made lots of public threats in this forum really won't help anyone apart from the federal police should anyone manage to hack this site once it's relaunched.

If he wanted to sell 500k DGC then he could have done so at any point, there would be no reason to lie about it.

People buy and sell coins all the time and they're in no way accountable to you or anyone else for that matter.

Unlike you, Baritus has credibility for his work in the past and the present. And you speaking of ethics makes this even more ridiculous. So, spare us with your endless moralising. Even the most reputable exchanges have been hacked and coins were stolen worth millions of Dollars recently -Gox, Vircurex and so on- and you are worrying for our funds in CryptoAve. That's really sweet. How generous of you. Good luck with your quest, Ahab.

You are just butt-hurt that another one of your hack attacks failed (again). Poor ego of a sad hacker. This is why you keep beating a dead horse.

I doubt anyone besides a few crypto enthusiasts gaf about this thread, you, the matter, or even DGC at this point. Will talk again when BTC is back over 1000, so not before 2015.

You really over rate yourself.

What does this have to do with Auroracoin ? Are you on some kind of misguided crusade against things that irritate you ?

What happened with Auracoin ? I haven't heard anything, of course I don't give a crap about it anyway but outside of these forums I doubt many others will be aware of anything, I know I'm not.

You do realise that your latest course of actions threatening CAve also threatens the future of this site as well right? As a consequence of your actions the relevant authorities will seek to shut this forum down once it is proven to harbour cyber criminals and turn a blind eye to criminal activity such as that which you are engaging in.

Just to let everyone know if this site is shutdown you will have BCX to thank. Then again he may have bigger problems himself to worry about. The wheels have been set in motion...

Would be easier to believe dev when he said probably bug in php than blaming heartbleed now.  My head spins!

Dev said only high value cave accounts attacked.  So attacker hammered server w/ heartbeat requests for long time and got lucky finding some passwords in memory.

And must be just at right time when high val accounts were logging in else 99.99999% chance memory overwritten (plus password not always exposed w/ heartbleed...high val accounts must have logged in many many times to get lucky!).

Then somehow tied those passwords to only biggest accounts.  Oh yeah almost forgot...need to know username and pin too!

Oh wait dev said in irc noticed gmail account hack of biggest accounts too...remember?  So bad guy hacked gmail too, or planted virus assuming *all* high val accounts use windows.

Username ok, could be plain texted in email.  But pin was plain texted in signup email?  Cant be...then no security for pin!  Where did bad guy get all these pins for high val accounts?  Only if pin was plaintexted back and seen in memory (w/ password at same time...not guaranteed!).

Else only way to see is w/ db hack and unsalted fields...which is bad security not heartbleed.

All so this bad guy could get maybe a couple $k of precious dgc from low profile exchange...

Really fishy smell.  But many many gullible guppies in dgc pool so perfect convenient excuse...win-win!

I plan to deposit a few hundred thousand of the various coins I have into CryptoAve once it reopens so I can trade them and buy shares.

Are you saying you're going to steal these coins from me because someone doesn't comply with your spurious demands ?

Please confirm.

lol, You can't buy advertising like this.

If nothing else, thank you BCX. Your ego has probably gotten us more publicity than anything else we could do.

He stirred up everyone the exact same way on the Btc-e trollbox in summer 2012. Hardly anyone knew about Litecoin back then and until then. DigitalCoin is the better Litecoin anyway. Much faster, much less manipulated by whales (thank goodness it's not on Btc-e) and unlike Ltc, DGC sees continued service development.

I guess we should all be thanking him then, thank you BCX!

post the address.. or your busted scamming period.
and even if he was the devil himself and has committed more crimes than anyone on the planet it still doesn't not clear your name Baritus lol

why do you idiots here insist on creating a diversion playing games and lying so much ? do you really seriously and honestly think it's effective ?
you think anyone out there really believes the bs ?
people like you are like guys screaming the world is flat or the sun revolves around the earth or the holocaust did not happen..
we all just laugh at you instantly. and then REALLY laugh when you fumble around trying to play games about it.. it's sad and often painful to watch.

getting one of you scammers to man up is like getting the NSA to admit anything.. not happening lol

Baritus = Amy from Kitchen Nightmares "Amy's baking Company" episode
and BCX = Gordon trying to deal with a fucking wacko LOL

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/cleanplatecharlie/amyhaters.jpg

PS:
If anyone make an AMY's Baking Company clone coin PLEASE pm me and let me know i'm in !!!! ..I will mine that shit hard lololol
as long as it has no IPO or Premine at the bare min of scammyness lol

Thanks for the free bump Spoetnik, also that little short story you wrote was very funny. You should show that to jimmy falon, I am certain he would give you a writing job! I know I had a good laugh.

Just like DGC huh ?

Day after day, funny story run across altcoins  ;D

normally users with 6 posts don't get the privilege of a rant from me so consider yourself lucky..

i am the knower and haver of all things crypto and what i shall say will have been fortold and what is seen will be viewed !
I am a white hot shining comet of awesome and unless more people start bowing to my glorious insightful and witty posts like you just did
i will be forced to take matters into my hands and lead a revolution.. i have friends in the illuminati that can melt brains with ray guns n shit !!!
My genius is only tempered by my humility my fans always tell me.. they love my legendary wit and appreciate my Crypto-Sheriff duties.
I'm the crypto cop and i show my badge and the cons go running !
Stick around kid and watch as lay down the law to all the scammers around here it will be fun to watch.

All the usual scammers around here are scared of me so they are just Haters and Trolls !
I will accept Fallons writing job but i need to destroy a few more coins first.. I make all those coins scammers shutter in fear like
a scared puppy sitting in a pool of pee on the floor waiting for a rap on the nose with a noose paper.
Since you must be staff of Fallons can you say thanks i love his show ? Even though i have never seen it, but don't tell him that please.

Anyway my Pizza eating duties beckon me i must tend to my pizza addiction or my comment might get long or spelled wrongerer than usuals.
So new guy if you need a legend to take you under his wing pm me and i will send you some lengthy amounts of proof of scammers.
Most people recognize my Mensa caliber genius here but some don't but those that do have the knowledge of how good i am at being a genius.

BUT be warned, some of my comments may skirt on the edge of maybe being for or against you, it will be hard to tell.
it's my sneaky way of trolling and being crafty and then maybe if i am lucky baiting a guy into a response so i can jump on em with a, oh i'm just joking routine or something.
Making a deliberately ambiguous comment is sometimes a great way to troll ;)
but you know that already don't you ..Mr. 6 comments hahhaa

Next time i want 1 btc for your free bump though.. oh wait... was this your topic ?? lol

I happen to like baritus. Decent guy with a decent coin.

At least he still works on his coin *cough* satoshi *cough*

You have some ego bud. "normally users with 6 posts don't get the privilege of a rant from me so consider yourself lucky.."  i feel soooooo lucky (btw everytime you post in this thread it bumps the awareness of Digitalcoin across the altcoin section and all kinds of blogs that track the most popular threads)

Also, who are you? Why should I care who you are? And your E-Penis is showing, you should really watch where you throw that thing. Not everyone veiws your ego as a good thing.