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1001  Economy / Economics / Re: One faithful day that change my life. :) on: December 19, 2019, 01:12:01 AM
What changed your life? Bitcoin has changed my mind and my life. Initially, when I first heard about the field of digital money, I did not believe. After that, I saw a lot of people going up from investing in digital currencies. I decided to try my luck. First, I participated in bonus campaigns to get free coins. More successful than expected, Bitcoin earned me more money than any other job. And from there I expanded my investment on the Bitcoin exchange.

That’s one huge change, if you believe on quantum leap, that’s sort of it, a massive leap forward, I’m lapse into the future self within just a few months, that’s crazy, you’d figure that Erik Finman the self-made crypto millionaire are many years ahead of his peer, who’s still trying to figure how to skip the classes in school, that’s the quantum leap for him, I had made the change, you too did it? That’s great for you! And yes the bitcoin and bonus campaign, they’re god send.
1002  Economy / Economics / Re: One faithful day that change my life. :) on: December 19, 2019, 12:36:32 AM
Hey man, sorry to hear that, I guess you need to start all over again and I know you can do it. I myself went into a similar situation of yours, but I didn't loss everything in investing or scam, but in gambling. Lost my jobs and for two f**ing years, I struggled, was ridicule by anyone I knew and people I thought that will help turn their backs against me.

In two years I was able to get back, through crypto specially in 2017. There are still daily struggles, the hard grind of life. Just focus and believed in yourself. Best of luck!!!

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That’s pretty much sum up to what I’d getting through in the past, it was depressing, that you finally unmask their true identities, and begin to know them not by their cover but the content, the big picture, and yeah a big mistake that we get into, there is nothing to feel sorry about, it should be those scammers that should be the one to feel sorry. But nope, they escape, because the federal reserve has been fooling around for so many years yet all these lesser evil scammer can easily get away scoot free, tbh, there wasn’t exaggerating in the story, it has been part of the life for most people, everybody is in denial, the zoomer generation would be the one who get screwed real bad, if they think my story are bad enough, they’d better pray hard.
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Lesson learned: Dont ever or easily trust someone when it comes to investment because no matter how close you are with your friend, when we do already talk about money
then those people will eventually change for their own benefit.They dont care after you've invested on the thing they had suggested.I do actually have the same
experience but in opposite i do able to reject those proposal yet i know that getting rich isnt really as it sounds by just throwing up some money into stocks or any whatever
investments we've known.

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That’s sound advices, btw it’s all lesson learned through experience, there is no easy way to grasp this idea without experience it first hand, it’s not a surprise that how easily people are getting duped today, they’re completely clueless, read the mainstream news and you’d see the facts, bitconnect, for example, that basically boggle my mind, but it’s not absurd.
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Sorry for your loss, but you do not really have any other option but to move on and start over, you made some mistakes and you have acknowledged them now is the time to correct them and to learn from them, after this kind of experience it will be really difficult for you to become an investor because you will always think about the story repeating itself, but you still have time to rebuild your life and even if it is not the life that you were expecting it can still be a good one.

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It’s strange, definitely I’m very pissed of investment especially the stock market, yet it turn me into a new type of investor, I turn into metal, I turn into crypto, I turn into hedging, but never stock market again, yes! It was indeed the faithful day for me, it change my life from a stock market investor to a completely new form of investor! I think it’s an upgrade from stock market, to the higher end of investment, it evolve into the butterflies!
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1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Two Years Ago, Bitcoin Was Over $19,000 — What Happened? on: December 18, 2019, 06:40:49 PM
He probably forget three years ago, bitcoin was by far less than $100, they’re just trying to cherry picking on the price, but two and three years does it make much difference? Do you brother with what you did five years ago? I could barely remember three years ago and every moment.
1004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mark Cuban hating on bitcoin... Watch this guy's response lol on: December 18, 2019, 06:34:09 PM
You wouldn’t be surprise he would soon emerge as bitcoin maximalist in the next few years, everybody FUD bitcoin first before they eventually shill it, remember the Morgan Stanley 2017 tm
1005  Economy / Speculation / Re: The real reason BTC price has dropped on: December 18, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
In layman term, we all need money to buy food, any merchant willing to accept bitcoin as the actual payment option? Any? Joke aside it’s certainly a blessing moment, because it give us the opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin at very decent price, I’m actually quite happy to see that coming, despite my bags are bleeding fast, good luck to the guy who hodl a lifetime of wealth at this moment, I hope they didn’t do something regrettable.
1006  Economy / Economics / Re: Are we heading towards Recession? on: December 18, 2019, 06:14:10 PM
Recession is horrible, I don’t think anyone could tell it’s coming until it’s too late, the last recession caught everyone by surprise and hit extremely hard, because nobody believe that, we’re in complete denial. Since everything is working well now, you can have your doubt, despite the market are having very good bullrun, and bitcoin is doing well too, it has recovered from all time low, I don’t think we are heading to recession atm.
1007  Economy / Economics / Re: One faithful day that change my life. :) on: December 18, 2019, 03:51:14 PM
I forgot the name of the website but they will probably give you a lot of tips for putting this as a story of yours in your profile.
Yeah, somehow there are still people who just love a good story. Bad or good. Whatever it is.
Is it steem or steam? Something like that.
Edit: Yes, it is steem. https://steem.com/

But here? I don't think there is really a room for drama. People here are warriors.

A good story or a bad one, the one that don't even stand a chance to see the light before they get removed, and yeah I'm talking about the story that frequently get removed from the Internet, it's extremely fishy to me, a well written story that has no place on the Internet, and the authority with power could easily punish the content they dislike, to stop this sort of story from spreading, what's that we called, the Internet censorship, for what, I think for the purpose of national security, and nope it's not about deceiving the public, it's good for majority, I think there is many sites all over the Internet that we are allowed to write something personal, reddit, FB, Twitter, Instagram, discord, Google plus, YouTube, wordpress, medium, steemit, that's a lot of them, they're all "supposed" to be free of censorship regulation from the very beginning, something strange has happened, this sort of websites become more and more centralized and something funny happens, YouTube begin to banning violence videos content from getting into their platform, a few more site follow suit and begin to ban hammer it's loyal users from making any insane comments that's violating their terms of use, it's great, I think great for securing their source of profit? But I'm looking forward to Twitter to come out with their version of decentralized social network, I would be the first to sign them up the services.
1008  Economy / Economics / One faithful day that change my life. :) on: December 18, 2019, 11:43:27 AM
One faithful night, your friend invite you to a fine dining, at nearby Mc Donald outlet and you agree, without warning conscious at mind, and you arrived, your friend , you feel they're different today, he look like shining brightly in front of you, look gorgeous, like shiny Pokemon you ever meet out of sheer luck, you have no idea what has happened to him, and you decide to dig it out and see what's he up to, then you hit up with the waiters and order the meal just as usual, and he began the conversation, he brag about how Mr warrior Buffett become rich, the amazing story of Steve Jobs, the ultimate Trump, the super Jack Ma, the immutable Craig Steve Wright, the famous CZ binance, then he would tell you, he is reading many books, and very inspired to become rich like them, you're not very motivated but he would tell you can earn a lot of money, can drive the latest and fastest car, can buy the best sea view condominium, bang the best hot chick, so much to do, your mouth are drooling but not knowing what you may have been setup to do, but you feel your life is really suck, feeling useless, unmotivated, that you don't have the life the same with Warren Buffett, you think it's unfair you want to change this all, then your friends would see the opportunity and begin to introduce their very own SCAM, they would then tell you to invest, it's the best way to become rich, 9 out of 10 billionaires are rich due to investment success, you see DJIA is soaring record high, a lot of rich people are born from DJIA, you're being left behind, don't you daresay nobody make money when DJIA is soaring high, it's almost a common sense that everybody should make money when it's soaring high, look all the investors become rich by investing in DJIA, the Americans are richest men in the world because DJIA soar to the moon and make all of the filthy rich, they are living the TRUE American Dream! You daresay they're not rich? You believe into what he's bragging then you begin to grow interest into investing, and

... A few months later...

Then I got to know the stock market and begun my journey to the mega wealthy, I started dabbling.

So after a year, I lost everything and took unsecured loans from many banks recommended by my friend.
These sort of loans have interest of more than 10% per annum, some may up to 17%.

I believe I have pile up a total of USD 100k  unsecured loans which I lost as well.
Overall I think I have lost more than USD 200K.

The credit consulting from the government isn't as easy as you think, I ended up with 5 or 7 years repayment tenure and only the amount after the annual salary got massively reduced.

I am broly 46 this year so any marriage plans are shattered.
My gf (imaging I have one) by a few years so it is difficult for her.

She left me after a few months when she confronted me and know everything. Yeah she confront me being a betaman, I had no nothing to assert domination over a fierce gf, knowing every legal system would work against me, I don't think I have anything else to loss, so I unearth everything.

My world crumbled, everything turn upside down, no one saw me when I teared a little in my cubicle after i received her breakup message via FB messenger.

Long story short, I try to limit my expense to just below $100 a week on food and transport. (Still I think I  managed it well so far but I need a few years to settle my unforgivable loans)

GF, marriage, kids, Seaview condo, fast and new car, billionaire are all but just faded dreams. And that friend of mine that introduce me into this SCAM a long time ago, are blocking my contact number, I never see them again for years, this son of the bitch, I would never forget and forgive them, they would blame me for (being naïve, for being unrealistically expecting a life of fifthly rich, for being impatient of getting rich, didn't get enough education in investing, didn't always follow the rule of investing, didn't read a lot of books from Warren Buffett, take a lot of loan from banks to invest, didn't invest into the correct stock, didn't buying into the winning stock in a successive  orders of up to 10 consecutive trades, lose more money than winning of course can't be rich like Mr Buffett, ... <insert your rants here>, <and here>, <and insert here>, <insert more here>, <insert key Words>, <insert Scam here>, <here we goes again>  )
1009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Do Women Want? More Educational Materials Before Investing in Bitcoin on: December 17, 2019, 06:55:29 PM
It’s true, they need a lot more understanding to how it work, this is very bad, all the women I know get into it just for the money, they would choose a wallet that’s very easy to access, with just 4 keys password and and android apps, I’m not sure what they read all over the internet about bitcoin but their action noticingly frighten me, their concern for Cryptocurrency security is nearly as low as non existent, can you even believe that? That’s why I suggest bitcoin need to be as easy as internet banking, women need a lot of help from the banker to manage their money, they can’t perfectly independent with using bitcoin, they would always need a lot of help from sending, buying, selling and receiving it, there is no easy way for them except A LOT more help, and every single day they need that help, a life time help and more knowledges.
1010  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright: "BTC is not Bitcoin" on: December 17, 2019, 06:45:13 PM
It is super effective! By calling “BTC is not Bitcoin” he can easily get a lot more attentions than spending millions on paid ads that usually took ages to get ROI back. And it baffle me to how many newbies would still fall for buying into his shitcoins.
1011  Economy / Economics / Re: 2020 Good for USA dollar Bad for USA stock market on: December 14, 2019, 02:05:26 PM
I don’t know, I think staple food price are soaring high, stock up food, stock up drink, and stock up more bullets.
1012  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is 2.5x more popular than DJIA (world’s strongest financial market) on: December 11, 2019, 07:38:19 PM
Even though they are talking to about popularity still the variable used to compare is not correct, popularity based on comments really? How would you know the exact number of individuals if they just count the comments? Well we can't deny the growth of Bitcoin, it became popular and trendy because of its price but that does not mean people would look for it. Index and digital asset will fall onto different category.

Imo.DJIA as an index of massive companies is incomparable to a digital currency, even the highest among the cryptocurrencies, bitcoin.

That’s right we usually use price to rank how valuable the item is, and it baffles me too when bitcoin surge to 20,000 ATH by the time DJIA was still trading below 20,000, which is MASSIVE in my opinion, but it didn’t mean much by now. The comment section is yet another item that baffles me, I couldn’t believe it basically just grow so much and fast too. That’s true bitcoin has no place to compare to DJIA which the entire market is worth 250 trillions USD, bitcoin didn’t even account for 1% of that size of wealth. The same goes for gold market which is roughly 8 trillions dollar. Well if I was to come to conclusion, the markets always confuse me with all the random numbers flashing on the screen, deception at it’s best.


Are you even thinking clearly about this one? Have you even think that most professionals involve in the Dow Jones uses investing.com? Don't you even consider the fact that they are using other tools like Bloomberg Terminal and Thomson Reuters Eikon? Comments on a post even if it makes them "popular" cannot be translated as demand for Bitcoin like you said they just made it popular on a Wikipedia like website for financials. And just to answer your question no they aren't trying to tell us something even if it's in front of their headlines, they are simply just covering everything they have on the financial world.

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That’s right, most professionals have way more sophisticated tools for data mining at their disposal, and they have a team of hardworking programmers ready to deploy everything to its fullest like in the movie “The Great Short”, they probably won’t fancy with primitive sites like that, btw those aren’t something that we can gain access so easily too, the entire financial markets are always running in full secrecy, no info could get leaked from their sight. That’s not all, they also control nearly the entire wealth of the world under their fingertips, they may be famous by having the most wealth per individual, but they’re not having the most popular vote by approval (most comments), if an asset is highly discussed among users on a particular forum, does it automatically depict it is highly popular? Well I believe there must have a metric to determine it, count of comments certainly have its plus, after all nobody would have at their right mind waste their valuable time to create all the productive comments all over the forum, they could be spambot, but it would likely get filtered quickly too, so anybody want to waste their time again to maintain a spambot that can be anti spam proof?
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OP, where are you getting this data from?  And it doesn't even matter where, it's information that's being misinterpreted--the stock market is more popular than bitcoin by probably several orders of magnitude.  Think about how many people have their retirement savings in 401(k) accounts or own stocks outright and how many people work on Wall Street.  It doesn't really matter how many people are discussing the Dow, because that's just an index.


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There is nothing complicated, the data is very straightforward, visit the investing.com, navigate to the DJIA forum, and scroll down to the comment section, and you get the number of comments in real time, and do the same with bitcoin too. That would be the only site that any layman can do easily, of course it doesn’t require any technical skills and involving hijacking some unclassified documents or even to the sort of wiki leaks decrypting the govt secret.

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Hey, I'm glad that the MSM is covering bitcoin and other coins like ETH.  I don't watch a lot of news, but I've seen crypto reporting on Youtube videos, clips of MSNBC and Bloomberg and the like.  I think that's a very positive thing.
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I was frequent yahoo until it begin to ridicule me with consent/kyc and all, then many other sites simply try to silence all from their sites, include bloomberg, and then I stumble upon this site, investing.com, it baffles me at first glance, when it rolling out with crypto interface on their site, and the rest is history, although it didn’t turn out smoothly, the site eventually went down at some point during the peak, many early comments were permanently lost too. Well, we can’t have all the good thing in life.
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1013  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is 2.5x more popular than DJIA (world’s strongest financial market) on: December 11, 2019, 02:12:31 PM


OP is talking about its popularity or being discussed frequently. Though you have a pint sir @avikz because indeed they are very different from its other. But since DJIA is a financial market, means investors alike are talking bitcoin and very aware of its capability.
I didn’t go deeper into every single comment and further classify them into many sort of items, but the site is always full of traders. Can I say some traders are moving into bitcoin from the other market?

Bitcoin is unique in many ways. Its blockchain, decentralized nature, mining and supply. Anybody upon hearing it will become curious and will try to dig deeper. Curiosity you know.

By the way. Financial sites will post anything that is trending or anything that they can benefit well. They are also into business. That is why I do not automatically believe on everything I saw on the internet or what media is saying.   

That’s may sound legit, how soon are we going to see them also include some rare items we farm on some online game, since they’re too valuable items among gamers, are we going to see a lot of them getting listed, what about a limited time super rare Christmas outfit for the pokemon, with +stat, +hp, +speed etc, then that’s going to be crazy, the gamers would go to that site and start biding the price too, trading it too?

Can we come to a conclusion that it is because of popularity that there are many inquiry about bitcoin, Dow Jones Industrial Average is an established exchange and bitcoin is a new market and hence it is natural that people will try to learn about the new market rather than an established market, if you really want to learn about established markets you can visit a stock broker and he will help you but you cannot find someone who could help you with the bitcoin market.

It’s indeed true, bitcoin are widely discussed, among traders, although nobody have a clue about what’s there for them to gain by gathering on the forum, are they traders? Are they bounty hunters? Are they just some random investors? But I don’t remember the last time bitcoin get discussed so openly on a clear net, it also give an impression that nobody brother whether it’s illegal, they would just trade it, also it seem the hype won’t simply dying anytime soon just like some red chip, which usually get pump and dump one last time before they die and never get mentioned again.
1014  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is 2.5x more popular than DJIA (world’s strongest financial market) on: December 11, 2019, 11:59:06 AM
Why are you even comparing between a highly regulated industrial index with bitcoin, that is too based on the comments? These are two very different thing - one is index and another one is a currency or asset! And look at the parameter you have chosen - comments??!!

Bitcoin has certainly got good traction since the dream run in 2017 which gave it a worldwide visibility. And due to that visibility it has also become one of the most searched word in Google. SEO people associated with finance saw an opportunity and started incorporating related metadata and terminologies in the website so that they can receive better search traffic! It's as simple as that!

It may sound dumb, but I would like to know how widely talked is bitcoin compare to all other major financial markets, just looking at google trend or bitcointalk alone I couldn’t easily come to a conclusion as the variable I could use would be not compatible, let’s say compare orange to apple in this case, what can I do to make it easier? Look for a centralized investing forum and look for common parameter among two comparing asset, price is out for this one, any market parameter means literally nothing, the only thing that it could make some sense is the comment section, I’m intrigued by how widely talked in the bitcoin forum, and to my surprise, it even exceeding the number of comments to a very ancient market, and why I decide to choose investing dot com? I have no clue about this website, who’s the web master behind this site or their incentive of running it 24/7, but it have some features that we badly sought, that’s right, a freedom to leave your comment to your heart content, that’s what most/all financial sites are lacking, however gold forum would still take the first spot by a huge margin at about 10x more popular and widely talk than bitcoin.
1015  Economy / Economics / Bitcoin is 2.5x more popular than DJIA (world’s strongest financial market) on: December 11, 2019, 11:02:33 AM
Bitcoin : 80828 comments and counting since first snapshot on (2017 Nov)

DJIA : 31438 comments and counting since (2008)?

Secret sauces: investing.com

And I begin to wonder why the heck all this mainstream financial sites are listing crypto currency on their front pages? They trying to tell us something?
1016  Economy / Economics / Re: You want to get rich, don’t pay taxes, don’t get married, don’t use bank, and... on: December 10, 2019, 12:43:27 PM
All these things OP have mentioned, avoiding them is never going to make you rich, so your list is a joke. Every rich man I know and even the ones we know today as the world's richest men, none of them got to the position they are today by avoiding to pay their tax or avoiding to get marriage, etc. But they are still rich. It's hard work and grace that will get you to the top and not all these things you have written here.

And as for people getting a divorce and losing half of their wealth, well that's their business. Marriage isn't something you jump into, the process should be step by step unless you will end up getting married to the wrong person and when you do, at the end you're still going to divorce.

How naive you’re, all the big corporations are getting rich by cutting headcount, the more head they could cut the more they could save while at the same time the bulkier their wallets are getting, the bulkier their year end bonus for the top executives, you’re just a part of the target in their shooting squad crowds, sooner or later they would dispose of you when they think it’s fit for them, don’t believe me? And that’s when they cut all the head and only leaving the vital executives, the entire corporation would fall apart quickly since all the cash cow generator was cut to save cost, and leaving only the management stuffs who sucking coffers quickly with their fat bonus, while executives fighting each other to the dead for that little money that’s only enough for one luckiest survivor.

Yes cutting every cost is the ultimate way of richest, industrial products based slowly moving to service based business, because it’s cheaper to be in service industries, since hoarding commodity and piling up unsold inventories are going to cost the business so much that by doing nothing they simply go broke, while service based industries survive by doing nothing, they didn’t even need to pay for any overhead cost that face by their competitor. And yes, service based industries, soon it would be the working classes who would face their fates, all of you working slaves are just a product that piling up and forming a huge overhead cost to any dying product based industries, all of you need to be cut, the shooting squad is always ready to release their load to whoever they dislike. Don’t blame me why it has to be ended like this, it’s all the chaos created by the commodity market crashes back dated to the last financial crisis, and it’s not going away after these many years, but it just ballooned quickly into yet another bigger bubble, imagine the entire products based industries to immediately vanished in a single night! Yes! Please blame the ❤️❤️❤️❤️ who starting all the commodity market up for trading in form of future listing, the virtual fake paper gold trading is one of them, however gold could barely survive that rampant bank cartel, it’s not so lucky for all the other commodities, nearly all the other commodities simply collapse and drag the entire products based industrial together with the crashes so badly that the 2008 make many people go kys, some survived but suffer Great Depression so bad that we still watch it coming today, and the homeless crowds are too casualty from the mess, I think all of you may have no clue about 2008, you may have seem many people are acting weirdly but you think it’s completely normal because the mainstream news are telling you it’s all okey, nothing to panic, and you buy into that lies and think the people should stop acting weirdly, but it’s not the same today, we can clearly see the impact now, because more and more people are acting weirdly, and it’s no longer the same, the mainstream news didn’t manage to fool us again, because the entire internet are acting weirdly, you can see them in action, from streaming video from social site from your nearby frequent leisure’s spot, even your own mr president are acting like a ❤️❤️❤️❤️, you think it’s all fake? You may fool me in 2008, but not now, it’s 2019, everybody are awakened, they’re extremely aware of the impact and start working to prepare for the next action, many doomsday’s prepper are established each passing year, they’re not entirely senseless, they’re the one who have great insights, that’s why I believe they’re going to do well in the future.
1017  Economy / Economics / Re: You want to get rich, don’t pay taxes, don’t get married, don’t use bank, and... on: December 09, 2019, 08:07:16 AM
Well, they are rather curious tips, but they can be justified. The point is that to get rich without a job and without using the banks, the only thing that comes to mind is to be a drug trafficker or a robber.
I don't know if it's a good idea ... Smiley
Perhaps the author of the post meant spiritual enrichment? I think that it is impossible for a person to give up those things that the author says, because they are all a chain of full life and no one will give them up.
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Nope I believe in fairy tales, I think it would pay off one day, as long as we have strong faith!
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Some of the things that you mentioned are not really optional, unless you are rich from the moment that you are born you have to hold a job at some point during your life to get some capital, and if you want to at some point stop working then you need to invest and for that you need capital, however I agree that many of the investment options that we have are fake but investing in something like bitcoin is a great option for people like us.

Paying your taxes is no really that optional either you have to do it whether you like it or not, using the banking system is optional but it is going to be very difficult to not use it from time to time, the only element that you bring that is truly optional is to get married and I kind of get your point, too many people get married without really thinking about the long term consequences of that decision
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Of course none of them are easy, they have constantly make it very hard for us, there is so much for them to gain, by telling you to follow that rules, while they hide on the corner and watch you failed, and they could get their share of benefits out of this plan.
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I think that the author gave an example of too many restrictions to lead to wealth, because if you evaluate all these restrictions, then in my opinion a person lives and makes money just to give himself the opportunity to do what the author is trying to limit.  Of course, we can say that you do not need to marry, because you can find a simple girlfriend, but it seems to me that even a friend can be much more expensive than a wife.

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That’s right, friends, wife, all of them are expenses, even the govt cost us money to run, bank also cost us money, does it matter wife or friends who has least lesser expense? I think it’s very subjective, you’re going to buy into the unknown, and you won’t know the truth until you’re deep into the world of no return, I’m referring to obligated to engage in that matter as ridiculous as marriage, tldr not going to go deep into the matter, seem to be it’s a topic that would bring the entire thread to the drain with that.
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You have a point on that mate but to be happy is to make your own way by doing the most precious thing is to love with your partner for the rest of your love. I understand practically on the OP's point but being in love, we have an inspiration towards as we live in this planet earth.

Having a lot of money is the most comfortable way of living but being just having a lot of money without any inspiration makes so desperate due for the various things is so easy as you can have you want and needs in life, likewise everything is no challenges and leads to very boring life and that's the most reason of those people commit a suicide as they want to challenge the death.
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Puppy have a lovely life!!! Puppy get married!! TLDR!! OMG!
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I think that the author gave an example of too many restrictions to lead to wealth, because if you evaluate all these restrictions, then in my opinion a person lives and makes money just to give himself the opportunity to do what the author is trying to limit.  Of course, we can say that you do not need to marry, because you can find a simple girlfriend, but it seems to me that even a friend can be much more expensive than a wife.

Well said because wife can adjust for even when you do not have amount in wallet but girl friend or friends will not stay with you but family and people whoever commited with you will stay with you always.
Then this topic not more relevant to cryptocurrency economics.

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You may some point! Your views of economy, it’s the one the mr president obsessively endorsed!! Sanction!! Bank Cartel!! AML! KYC! PermaBan!! Imprisonment! National security act!! Did I missed something?? I think it’s it, more restrictions! The economy that restrict everyone but the mr president to do whatever, the lockup economy! If that’s the economy, everyone shouldn’t allow to make a thread here, we’re all silenced, no complaint, no fighting, no petition!
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It's because he didn't sign a pre-nup, if you sign one that clearly outlines each others financial situations, and things end up going sideways, you should be fine.

Pre nuptials are not legally binding where I'm at. Courts can recognise them but they're free to overrule them.


Married, in this life it is necessary and important, to control your money spent and give encouragement and encouragement from your wife.
Conversely if you are not married you become poor with your uncontrolled wastefulness.

Balls. I've never been married. I never will be married. I've seen what happens when people turn on each other. Before that happens you'll have wasted untold amounts of productivity, energy and money and after it happens you waste even more and it's all for nothing.

I can't be bothered with relationships any more. When I was it felt like I was being drained, not enriched.

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It actually take me a while, I didn’t know what to say about this revelation, frankly it’s a long while, because it’s too brutal, many would simply try to ignore that, they still have strong faith in their fantasy land, the Disney land’s ending, fairy tales are the only force that keep them moving, they think their hard work would pay off one day, they pay taxes, they believe the fairy tales would one day appreciate their faithful action, they get married, believing that they would soon get to the fairy tales ending, may be one day, very long journey to that very day, they use bank, believing the snake oil banker promise them will be rewarded handsomely, one day a long journey! They invest, believing the fairy would come to them and free them from the world full of snake oil! They get a job, believing... Oh believing the old school teaching!! Your school teacher tell you to be decent student! Didn’t them!? Fairy tales! But why? Why dafuq everything is distorted!? Everything has a two face!! Look at that, pay taxes, get married, use bank, invest and job, the downside always outweighs the upside, it is always you on the loss for doing everything they told you so, the snake oil, they would tell you more when you feel lost! More snake oil! More lies!!


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1018  Economy / Economics / Re: You want to get rich, don’t pay taxes, don’t get married, don’t use bank, and... on: December 08, 2019, 12:00:42 PM
I think you can still become rich even if you pay taxes, got married with children  and using bank.
Me and my wife bowed to help each other i want to live a happy life and money is not important.  If you choose to become rich with those ways your life will be miserable.
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True, I can get rich by paying taxes get married use bank invest in the DOW and get a job!! But not you!! You can’t get rich by doing what I do!! Smiley and you want to know da wae??

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Being miserable and not having too much fun, sometimes facing four walls in a large house is something someone will face when they do these jobs because as you said, marriage and emotions are a feeling that we all want to feel, rejecting this special gift in exchange for wealth, I don't feel worth it, it's even a punishment for us. In addition, paying taxes and using banks, one is our responsibility and it will support us as we age, one is to help us make transactions in the technology age, I do not understand how we give up these things when it is so necessary

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That’s all very subjective too. for feeling, I swear that’s a vast difference opinion between people with social status, gender, cultures, some of them really don’t need that emotional feeling, some of them want it real bad. Do you think you have the guts to accept whatever I may think about all that crazy rants, that’s flooding all over the tweeter, those uncontrollable emotional outburst full of rants attention seeking tweets? They might be jaw dropping at first glance, make plenty of senses for many people, and may even covering something that share the same sentiment with our feeling too, but it quickly get bored, and...yes!! It was the same with anime, I know some anime are themed around that, and that’s some anime for the psychopaths, and it attract many young audiences too, because why? Because the stress! Kids these day know how to handle stress, they harm themselves to gain stress relieve often time, some go as extreme as amputated themselves too, kids can get away with stress with this strange behaviour, but it wouldn’t be any lucky for a grown up adult, when they try to do the same, they would be quickly to be judged by their action and labelled a social defects, for them to be treated as “normal” they need to do whatever sjw told them to do, when they try to do anything funny, something like don’t pay taxes, don’t get married, don’t use bank, don’t invest and don’t get a job, they are quick to be prejudged the welfare rats, anime are ahead of time for all these! Amazing! We are all but living behind the shadow of anime show, and we don’t even know why! And nope we’re not living in a matrix, they’ all wrong, those idiot think it’s matrix are too part of the anime show.
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Well, they are rather curious tips, but they can be justified. The point is that to get rich without a job and without using the banks, the only thing that comes to mind is to be a drug trafficker or a robber.
I don't know if it's a good idea ... Smiley
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Yeah that’s mundane to think of drug and robbery, but we all know most of these druglords or robbers are still living with their parent and still part of the basement dwellers too, why didn’t they’re independent and can afford all the best thing? They should have afford private yachts, private jets, private resort and all that suitcase full of US dollar!! The life of thugs!! You ask me why I know that?? Because I read some books and know that? Because I’m too lazy to quote the books that I read that tell me that? Because all those books are bored to death to want to read them again?? But thugs life is tough!! No way can the thugs get rich.

But the answer lie on the internet itself, plenty of money generated from it, I’m watching all the time.
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Becoming rich has its own importance and family holds its own value in the life of a person. Comparing both does not make any sense because none of them can replace the other one. What would be the use of all the money when there wont be someone that it can be spend on. It is so unlikely rather against the nature of a person to stay alone. Even if somehow pulls it, the world happiness will become unknown to him.
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I can fathom someone can deliver happiness from paying taxes, get married and have kids, use banking service, invest and working for corporate ladder, that’s probably what 99% of the cool kids who leave the schools doing anyway, that’s also what the 99% receive their happiness, that’s also a lot of generalisation for me to refute when I go against this group of people. But that probably not for everyone, especially not for the remaining 1% who would only enjoy life by doing everything completely disturbing and oppressive. And I’m not calling any specific person by the name, it is all up to everybody due diligence.
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hahaha, LOL.

Don’t pay taxes: then i will get rekt on the jail because it, and it will cost more than didn't pay the taxes

Don’t get married: then i will get rekt by my people who know me and clearly think me its no more than crazy people, and i am sure will die because depression.

Don’t use bank: the only reason i am using a bank just for saved my little tiny money. never think to using their stupid service like a debt etc.

Don’t invest: just for rare thing in the world, such as gold,btc.

Finally, don’t get a job : yes that true .
the only way to becoming rich just have a your own business , not an employee .



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Puppy didn’t pay taxes why puppy are excluded from being jailed??

Puppy didn’t get depressed whynobody think puppy is crazy??

Puppy has no bank and never need one?? Why nobody build a bank for puppy?

Puppy didn’t invest! Puppy just mine it!! Either mine gold or mine btc.

But puppy didn’t get a job, puppy also don’t have a business, puppy is still poor. Smiley

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This is the opposite of other rich people, they get married, they pay taxes too they use the bank. if you are rich this is not a problem, and if you don't do everything you will be in trouble.
married, you can't live forever alone you need a companion, don't care about the state of rich or poor, if there is someone who accompanies you, you will be happy.

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Really? If my points are all valid, we shall see those result in the next decade, I’m sure it would be a norm in 2030 onwards Smiley you probably would thank me for these insight that’s dated ten years ago!
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1019  Economy / Economics / Re: You want to get rich, don’t pay taxes, don’t get married, don’t use bank, and... on: December 01, 2019, 09:00:56 AM

Are you kidding with your opinion to be richest person without have get married and not pay tax? so why we are looking for much money every day without enjoy with our earning, I know your destination to keep increase output our income without married and pay tax, but we have married to motivate keep hard looking for much money and we are live in come country have take rule to pay tax as honesty people.

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Get that! You that! Get married that! Enjoy life that! Not married! No life! Pet puppy that! Puppy get married! That puppy have life! That life that! Puppy married! The life! The puppy has life! The life of puppy! The puppy! Married to!! The life!! Have life!! The puppy need married! The life is puppy! That life! That married! That become rich!! No married! No life! No rich!! You get that! You read that! You know that! You married that puppy! That puppy is rich! Is life! Is puppy rich!
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if the richest person is not married then that will stop his offspring and will stop his wealth, it is better to get married and be able to get children who can be made offspring and your wealth will still be there because it will continue your business.
LOL, we can see that the richest people in the world have a wife and children. even I doubt if they only have 1 wife  Cheesy Cheesy
I am also pretty sure that the OP will not follow what he writes to become rich. basically, to get rich you need to work hard, work smart, and have strategy and skills. You won't get rich just by following what is said.

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Get that puppy!! Puppy has one wife!! That wife puppy!! Happy life puppy!! Puppy need life!! Puppy married to wife!! The rich puppy has wife!! The puppy need to!! Need married to wife!! The puppy is life!! The final!! The working puppy!! The wife for puppy!! The puppy have children!! The puppy enjoy wife!! Puppy life! And the puppy rich!! Puppy need wife!! Puppy need work that!! That puppy is rich!! And puppy you know! The know puppy that!! That get you know!! You all know puppy!! Can have one wife!! Puppy has one wife!!
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I know you are exagerating to spread an idea, you are right in some points, but always be moderate in your life

You can get married without lose anything in a divorce, you can use the bank at your side (I use) you need banks to buy crypto for example
There are some good investments out there, with banks inclusive
You have to pay the taxes to live legally, but it's a good idea to study about economy and laws to know how can you pay less taxes without being illegal
And lastly, having jobs is not as bad as he think. It was vital in every human person because this is not inly a way to earn mkney and use for sustaining our daily needs but also a thing which gives us our own worth and boosts our self-esteem. I think jobs may considered toxic already if it comes to the point that you became a prisoner of it — the moment you can no longer go for a vacation, have a lovelife or do anything which makes you happy.


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That puppy!! That job!! Puppy need that!! Puppy need job that!! That lovely puppy life! That puppy enjoy vacation!! The puppy wife!! The wife vacation!! The puppy enjoy wife in vacation! The wife! The life! The puppy!! The puppy prisoner!! The puppy rich and prison!! The puppy that! That job that puppy that!! That wife! That puppy life!! You know that prison!! You that vacation! That puppy have wife! And that puppy vacation!! That life puppy!! Need a job that!! A puppy tale that!! You know wife!! That job that wife! That you that happy puppy that! No wife that! No happy that! Puppy have wife that! Puppy happy that!!

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And lastly, having jobs is not as bad as he think. It was vital in every human person because this is not inly a way to earn mkney and use for sustaining our daily needs but also a thing which gives us our own worth and boosts our self-esteem. I think jobs may considered toxic already if it comes to the point that you became a prisoner of it — the moment you can no longer go for a vacation, have a lovelife or do anything which makes you happy.
It is true that the regular jobs or what they called 9-5 is vital because that is your starting point if you are not from a rich family. Having a job is not a thing to be ashamed of because it will give you a regular source of income where you can use to save extra money and later on, you can use it to fund your passion or invest it into the things that will bring you more money.

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That puppy!! Passionate puppy!! Puppy has a 9to5! That 9 to 5 puppy!! Puppy has a life!! Puppy is a rich that!! Puppy family that!! That puppy money!! Puppy not a-shame!! Puppy income!! Puppy that save money!! That money puppy!! That vacation that!! Puppy wife that!! That puppy that married that!! Wife that! That puppy taxes that!! That owe that puppy that!! That puppy taxes!!! That taxes the wife puppy that!!
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1020  Economy / Economics / Re: You want to get rich, don’t pay taxes, don’t get married, don’t use bank, and... on: November 30, 2019, 03:55:25 PM

We cannot do those mentioned above, as we have to follow the rules in our country by paying taxes. True, by not investing our money it will not grow and we don’t have income. If we wanted to get rich we have to take risks the possible for us to take challenges.

Let's just follow our government, we really need to pay taxes as this has been our civil obligation and this is all for our own advantage and benefit too, so better to cooperate with the government by paying the right taxes rather than avoiding them and you are complaining that your government can't even afford to have a lot of security officer around the country, or can't even help with health issues, so paying taxes can change your country.
You just get into this world, and not knowing what is the subject of life, and that moment, you’re being burden to bear with shitload of debts, that you have no ideas what’s it has to do with you, and govt constantly feed into you to be loyal peasant, pay your taxes or waiting to get surprises dropping your soap, and the entire job markets are a clusters ducks by the time you have no idea dafuq mr president is spamming all the shit all over the internet that’s no really part of the job for him, by it has been going on since the invention of FB and all the buzz about govt going into building this cluster ducks social network from a simple platform into a dog shit full of govt agenda, and it’s not going to end anytime soon it will become part of them eventually. And...

It

We cannot do those mentioned above, as we have to follow the rules in our country by paying taxes. True, by not investing our money it will not grow and we don’t have income. If we wanted to get rich we have to take risks the possible for us to take challenges.





Those people who would realise it later in their life, they’re too late to make changes and they would slowly and certainly being completely drained by this never ending vicious cycle that has been around for longer than the distance from earth to the Mars.

If you want to get rich, think about all the steps you will take such as marriage, a bank loan plan, and of course how to avoid paying big in taxes.

There are many ways to avoid it and your reasons are not the reason to get rich. You just need to be smart and know the right time to do something that will truly transform yourself.
The five steps are the prerequisites condition before you could ever think about getting rich, you can’t skip that.



Don't have kids, don't have pets, ... :/

Anyway, the OP is talking from his ass. I stopped reading at "don't use a bank". He's probably living in a cave.
Exactly, that is a part of our contribution to our nation to pay a small amount just for the improvement of our society. Being good citizen we must pledge an amount that comes from our earning to develop to our country. That what we called, taxes. Building roads contracting building, that what our taxes do. I dont know what OP's thinking something like irresponsible human beings and lives alone on the island.


Paying taxes is not that hard if we work harder for our future. we also benefit from our payments like helping us when there are disasters, for our securities and more and paying taxes is not just giving our funds for nothing. it also help others with the money we pay to the government and at the same time helps us in future.
You owe the taxes money the moment you’re get into to this country, you owe! The govt! You owe that money! That life of you! You owe to me the govt! You owe that shit and you should pay! You owe that, you filthy worthless life! Owe that life to the govt! The life time of taxes to them! You owe that money! Do even read that! You owe that! You get it! You owe that you get to pay that you owe that! And you better pay that you owe that! You owe that before I’m the govt! The govt that I would! Would *beeps* and *beeps* that you owe that you dog shit *beeps* and pay that debt you owe that! The life you that! You owe that shit!
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