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1001  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 🌍World Economic Forum Recognizes the Benefits of Bitcoin Mining🚀 on: April 26, 2023, 08:44:54 PM
The World Economic Forum has finally recognized the positive effects of bitcoin mining, throwing away years of misconceptions about its environmental impact and highlighting the real benefits it brings to the economy. With this news, it is very clear that BTCitcoin mining is being recognized as a valuable and sustainable industry. Cool

Full Article : https://crypto-economy.com/world-economic-forum-recognizes-the-benefits-of-bitcoin-mining/

That's a very positive news, hopefully it will signal a change in WEF's narrative regarding Bitcoin. Interestingly enough, it had no effect on the price of Bitcoin, even though it was tweeted by Michael Saylor. At the same time, personalities like Elon Musk seem to ignore it. Not sure why he keeps ignoring the positive side of Bitcoin mining and only point out the negative aspects (Elon balls deep in doge?).  Huh
1002  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Passive Income through Bitcoin Mining - An Attractive Investment Opportunity? on: April 26, 2023, 08:27:04 PM
However, it is important to be aware of the risks and possible fluctuations and to weigh the investment carefully before jumping into the Bitcoin mining adventure.

There are far more risks involved in such a "hassle-free passive profits' scheme"

For example the risks here:
The risk of NOT actually owning your mining hardware.
and many more
- the company you would buy the gear for might be a scam and not actually buy it and run with the money
- the company claiming colocation might not pay you one cent from the earnings
- the company selling you this investment plan might simply overcharge you and change the ToS to make your own money because of costs
- the company assets might get seized like in the scenario above

Also, it's highly possible that the company which claims to :
Quote
JB GS Mining GmbH was founded in 2022 by Jonathan Buck and Gitte Schlappner. The two shared a passion for blockchain technology and saw the potential in bitcoin mining, hosting services, and financial and business consultingG.
although the domain is 5 days old and might have cropped the datacenter's pictures from
https://www.bitkern.com/en/bitcoin-mining
which sounds a bit scammy to me.  Wink

Great post, I hope it will come helpful for some forum members. Because of these reasons, I only invest in things I have full control over. In any other case you're not investing - you're sponsoring somebody's business and completely rely on them.
1003  Economy / Economics / Re: What class of an investor are you? on: April 26, 2023, 08:05:06 PM
I agree that there are those types of investors who classify themselves as angel investors, venture capitalist,1 etc. But before they become all of these types of investors, from my own perspective, I have put them into some classes. It is not an exhaustive or an elaborative list but at least, you get the idea of where I am driving at.

Class of Investors to the best of my understanding

New Investor
These are friends and family members who are willing to contribute a small quantity of money to your company.

The Ponzi scheme Investor
One who invests in ponzi scams continuously is this. This is the person who thinks about get-rich-quick schemes.

The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.

The Wealthy Trader
This one has had a number of profitable investments over the years. They are knowledgeable, experienced, show expertise.

What class of an investor are you?



1. https://www.investsmall.co/the-different-types-of-investors-what-kind-are-you/amp/

I guess I'm somewhere in between the researcher and wealthy trader. However it's very relative: I'm not a trader but a hodler and I don't consider myself wealthy. Yes, I had "a number of profitable investments over the years" but I'm yet to reach FIRE (financially independent retire early) status which is my ultimate goal. And the researcher can as well be the wealthy trader...
1004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 26, 2023, 06:54:48 PM
In case some of you missed this:

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Canada's Leylah Fernandez suffered a 6-3, 6-4 loss to 15-year-old Mirra Andreeva in the first round of the Madrid Open on Wednesday. The Russian teen, ranked 194th in the world, needed just an hour and 16 minutes to upset the 49th-ranked Fernandez.

Spectacular performance from a Russian teen. Quite an easy win against a GS runner-up! Definitely future TOP10 material!  Roll Eyes

Another talented teen Brenda Fruhvirtova lost to Kalinskaya in 3 sets: 6:2, 4:6, 4:6.
 
1005  Economy / Economics / Re: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy on: April 26, 2023, 06:37:32 PM
Why do you stubbornly go on quoting moscowtimes.ru? It's a propaganda website with a connection to CIA.

And now a few words about "propaganda channels". Take, for example, your favorite RT! Smiley
The founder and about him: "TV-Novosti is a media organization associated with the Russian government. Funded from the federal budget of the Russian Federation. Through its subordinate media, including RT, it spread pro-Kremlin propaganda and disinformation and supported Russia's aggressive war against Ukraine."
The channel is under sanctions and restrictions Smiley
Now the same information about moscowtimes - please provide? Smiley

At this point, let's make some things clear:

1. I am not Russian
2. I don't live in Russia
3. I don't support Russia
4. I don't watch RT or any other Russian channel

I'm not surprised however, as you as a slavic person (I presume you're Ukrainian?) become aggressive and take it to the personal level. I don't like propaganda and I don't tolerate lies. I don't have anything against you personally and the Ukrainians in common.

Getting back to our discussion:

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The founder and about him: "TV-Novosti is a media organization associated with the Russian government. Funded from the federal budget of the Russian Federation. Through its subordinate media, including RT, it spread pro-Kremlin propaganda and disinformation and supported Russia's aggressive war against Ukraine."
The channel is under sanctions and restrictions Smiley

What's this? I can't see any source? How is it related to our previous discussion?

1006  Economy / Economics / Re: The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy on: April 25, 2023, 07:57:12 PM
New "achievements of great Russia" Smiley
- The Ministry of Finance reported on the fall in the price of Russian oil to a new "bottom". The Kremlin's decision to cut oil production by 500,000 barrels per day proved powerless to raise prices for the Russian grade Urals.
In March, the average price of the main Russian export brand fell to $47.85 per barrel, the Ministry of Finance reported on Monday.
Compared to February, Urals quotes sank another $1.71 (3.4%), compared to January they turned out to be lower by $1.63, and in annual terms they collapsed almost 2 times.
So cheap, according to official statistics, Russian oil has never been worth since November 2020, when the global market experienced the shock of the pandemic and the strongest overproduction crisis in history.

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/04/03/minfin-otchitalsya-o-padenii-tseni-rossiiskoi-nefti-na-novoe-dno-a38918

But some still squeal "Russian oil costs $70"  Grin

Why do you stubbornly go on quoting moscowtimes.ru? It's a propaganda website with a connection to CIA.

domain:        MOSCOWTIMES.RU
nserver:       ns1.reg.ru.
nserver:       ns2.reg.ru.
state:         REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org:           Stichting Potamos

https://stichtingpotamos.org/
https://www.stichtingdeboomgaard.nl/grants/potamos-foundation

Project: Funding English- and Russian-language The Moscow Times - EUR 20,000 (15 November 2021)

Potamos Foundation owns The Moscow Times, an independent English- and Russian-language online newspaper. The English-language newspaper was published on paper in Russia from 1992 to 2017 and was both distributed for free and sold as a subscription. The newspaper was popular among foreign citizens living in Moscow and English-speaking Russians. The newspaper became online-only in July 2017 and launched its Russian-language service in 2020.

Journalistically, The Moscow Times is back and perhaps more impactful than ever before. The Russian edition offers an opportunity to give an extra boost to the brand. The Boomgaard Foundation contributes financially to this independent newspaper and to the future of a generation of young Russian journalists.

After further googling our little Stichting Potamos investigation leads us to Eliot Higgins and Bellingcat. I'm sure you know Bellingcat is a MI6/CIA sockpuppet, just to make sure here's Eliot Higgins' twitter feed: https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/

In other words - this website has nothing to do with Russian state media (or Russian media at all?) apart from the .ru domain apparently.

- Finland officially joins NATO and becomes the 31st member of the union. +1340 km border with NATO from Russia. The Baltic Sea has become NATO's inland sea Smiley

More lies: Sweden is not a part of NATO. There is access to the Baltic Sea from mainland Russia and also from Russian enclave of Kaliningrad (sheeeit, at this point Bozo the clown looks more credible than you).

Quote from: DrBeer
- In Russia, the shadow economy collapsed: more than a million citizens lost their unofficial jobs
The shadow economy of Russia, which before the war, according to RANEPA, accounted for up to a third of the national GDP, experienced a shock unprecedented for more than 10 years.

The number of people employed in the informal sector, which includes workers in the gray, as well as individual entrepreneurs and their employees, decreased by 1.2 million people last year, Vedomosti reports, citing Rosstat statistics.

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/04/03/v-rossii-posipalas-tenevaya-ekonomika-bolshe-milliona-grazhdan-poteryali-neofitsialnuyu-rabotu-a38851

Wait, if illegal employment has collapsed, it's actually great for Putin? More taxes will be paid?  Grin Grin Grin


I will specifically save your original text in full - everyone should enjoy it Smiley

1.1. "Why do you keep quoting moscowtimes.ru? It's a CIA-linked propaganda site." - evidence and facts that this is a CIA PROPAGANDISM SITE?
1.2. Can you refute the facts that this resource publishes? If yes, please provide proof? Smiley)))

2.
- Finland officially joins NATO and becomes the 31st member of the union. +1340 km border with NATO from Russia. The Baltic Sea has become NATO's inland sea Smiley

More lies: Sweden is not a part of NATO. There is access to the Baltic Sea from mainland Russia and also from Russian enclave of Kaliningrad (sheeeit, at this point Bozo the clown looks more credible than you).

Say SWEDEN and FINLAND, are they the same in your mind? Smiley I have to disappoint you greatly...
Sweden has applied to join NATO. The signature remained for Turkey and Hungary. It will happen this summer Smiley


3. “Wait, if illegal employment collapsed, is that really great for Putin? Will taxes be paid more?” - no, just the SEGMENT OF THE ECONOMY, which is not being replaced by the real sector, just collapsed. Learn the basics of economics - that's my good advice to you Smiley


PS Tell me - do you really like to look so stupid? Smiley

Congrats, you've reached a whole new level of retardation.

1.1. It's over there, quoted just above your text.  Grin
1.2. Np, just post any latest "news" from moscowtimes.ru and I'll refute it easily.
2. What can I say? You're indeed retarded... I was referring to countries having access to the Baltic Sea and your lie about it becoming NATO's internal sea.
3. Great way to find out if you're arguing with a troll - no facts or proof, just baseless insults
1007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 25, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
For me there are two to watch tomorrow, Wawrinka plays  Cressy and Gasquet plays
Landaluce, would like to see both veterans come through their matches.

I agree, these matches look promising. Meanwhile, getting ready for Madrid showdown. Some interesting matches can happen early in the draw. Medvedev could face Murray already in R2 and Tsitsipas could meet former World No. 3 Dominic Thiem also in the second round. Medvedev and Tsitsipas have byes in R1, whereas Murray and Thiem will have to defeat qualifiers in their R1 matches. Speaking about qualifiers btw, it may appear a tricky task as guys like Karatsev, Cerundolo and Cecchinato are all playing in qualification.

P.S. Just checked the results and Cerundolo seems out. He unexpectedly lost to some Shevchenko guy 6:7, 4:6.
1008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Dormant Address have been woke up, Are you worry? on: April 25, 2023, 06:26:07 PM

https://twitter.com/search?q=dormant%20address%20%23BTC&src

I actually don't care about this because for me btc price will always fluctuate for various reasons. But when I look at this, maybe a bit worried, I don't know how many people in 10 years ago still own a lot of Bitcoin until today and sell it at the same time. So What you're though?. why are they selling it now, and not on ATH acouple years ago?.

Not impressed. 7k BTC can't move the market considerably nowadays. Besides, they aren't necessarily selling, perhaps they're just consolidating wallets, or moving between wallets?
1009  Economy / Economics / Re: Look for what to invest, not what to eat on: April 25, 2023, 06:00:05 PM
I saw some message in the Bitcointalk.org where some users are trying to sell their account just to get what to eat not knowing that they can use that account to work to get a huge capital that will bring them out from poverty, and make food surplus in their home.

Oh really? How? Teach me!  Grin

As to the account selling, what if it's their business and they create multiple accounts, get some merits, improve forum rank and sell them?  Roll Eyes 
1010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin could hit $100,000 by the end of 2024 - Standard Chartered - Surprised? on: April 25, 2023, 07:02:24 AM
We have read many similar predictions by many market analysts and so-called Bitcoin enthusiasts about the bright future of Bitcoin. This is not surprising and this post is not a speculation post. What is surprising is that such kind of optimistic predictions is coming from one of the banking majors. The current banking turmoil has helped Bitcoin to win the trust of the people.

Read here: https://www.reuters.com/technology/bitcoin-could-hit-100000-by-end-2024-standard-chartered-says-2023-04-24/

Not all battles are fought on the battleground. Some are fought silently and patiently and time decides the winner. We are surely on the winning path!

Thoughts?


It's a very conservative forecast. Current ATH is around $70k and we'll likely reach (and exceed) it next year. If we take a look back at previous cycles, ATH had been broken in the third year of the cycle. Last time we went from ~$20k to ~$70k so something like x3.5 increase. At the same time, many bitcoiners agree that the previous ATH was ruined by some political and economic events and growth was stopped prematurely, so we can as well exceed x3.5 and shoot to like x5-x6, so $70k x 5 = $350k. So there's a good chance at least $200k will be reached next year. For sure, these are just speculations... Cool
1011  Economy / Economics / Re: New currency from BRICS countries on: April 24, 2023, 10:21:45 PM
Couple of hours ago there is in news on Twitter saying BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) are developing a new currency. It was mentioned by State Duma Deputy Chairmen btw.

As I can see all these things to manipulate BTC right? What are your thoughts about this?

I don't think the idea behind this new currency is to manipulate Bitcoin. I'm also pretty skeptical regarding all these artificially created currencies. USD will die eventually and cease being a global reserve currency, but it has to die of natural causes so to say, any artificial new currencies are destined to fail. I guess they're doing this simply because they can't agree on which of their national currencies will be used as a reserve currency (Yuan or Ruble?)
1012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 24, 2023, 10:08:23 PM
Djokovic missing Madrid is big news. Its amazing how a simple incident which causes
an injury can compound on top of other things within a season, he missed Indian Wells
because of visa rows and now an injury, his season so far has been disrupted.

I wonder if this is a worrying thing for Djokovic and his career, is this the start of
his final years?

As regards Madrid, the threat of Djokovic has been removed so I'm sure the other
top seeds will fancy their chances even more!

Alcaraz has to be big favourite

Without any doubt, Nole doesn't want to take any risks before RG. He has an elbow injury if I'm not mistaken and he played in a compression sleeve in Banja Luka, which is not a very good sign. By missing Madrid (and possibly Rome) he will try to win some time to heal his injury. 
1013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to convince a sceptical person to buy Bitcoin ? on: April 24, 2023, 08:38:56 PM
Although within this community Bitcoin is practically the only currency in which everyone believes, just look around a bit and we will find thousands of people who think otherwise.
At this point I wonder, what reasons should we give these people to make them realise that Bitcoin is a right choice? The first argument that comes to mind to convince a person who is sceptical about Bitcoin, is first of all that with Bitcoin you no longer need to delegate the custody of your money to a third party (banks, mutual funds, etc.): you are the master and you hold them. What else would you add?

You shouldn't do that. If a person is skeptical towards Bitcoin, he doesn't deserve it. For years I've tried to persuade people to buy Bitcoin but failed every single time. Let go, you can't do that. Everything will come in due time, it means you're too early and their time has not come yet. Most of them will buy but much later and at a much higher price.  Cool
1014  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How much do I need to start mining? on: April 24, 2023, 07:36:09 PM
I know huge capital is required to meet up huge financial expectations, what's the minimum volume of income one can use to start mining? In a situations where you trade with different strategies and still hits wrong targets, if you apply or use same trading knowledge for mining won't one still loss in mining too? Because I don't have enough money with me, so am trying to cut losses if mining too will not favor me I will decided to venture into mining too again.

Can I start mining with $300 and grow from there?

Maybe possible if: a) you have free electricity b) know someone who is willing to rent an ASIC miner for a reasonable amount c) you start with obsolete hardware and shitcoin mining, converting shitcoins mined to Bitcoin.
1015  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Benefits of Bitcoins recent price drop on: April 24, 2023, 06:24:22 AM
Firstly drop in the price of Bitcoin helps strengthen the Bitcoin ecosystem by making impatient holders sell their Bitcoin hodlings to others who understands Bitcoin better

It will help those that have long wanted to join the Bitcoin ecosystem quite encouraged to purchase Bitcoin

It will help capable hodlers  reduce Bitcoin spending to in turn help increase demand and value


First, I have to point out that this isn't a "drop", "fall", "decline" etc. This is merely a correction, a tiny one. Anyone, who has been in Bitcoin long enough will tell you that. There's no "bearish sentiment", in fact, we're climbing back up already. So keep calm and have some patience - you will be rewarded for that!
1016  Economy / Economics / Re: it's so risky! on: April 24, 2023, 05:59:02 AM
I don't invest money easily in any asset because of fear of losing that money. i think of investing 80% of total savings.
do taking risk is important or not?

please quote all question and answer it's very helpful for me and others.

Well, you mentioned investing 80% of your total savings, that's very close to going all in. The golden rule of investing says: only invest what you can afford to lose (5-10% of your net worth). By following this rule, you can make sure you stay focused on your long-term goals and avoid making decisions based on short-term fluctuations. On the other hand: no pain, no gain, you have to take risks, without it big profits are impossible. In any case, I think Bitcoin is a good choice. But the decision is up to you.
1017  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Gas ban - A problem for Europe or suicide for Russia? on: April 23, 2023, 07:22:58 PM
This method is a step by the European Union to support Ukraine in maintaining the freedom and determination of Ukraine's destiny. but through the method taken by the EU itself it will burden itself in my opinion, without gas supplies from Russia maybe the EU will have to pay a lot of money to get a replacement
More than a year after the start of the war, Europe does not seem to have been affected much compared to what Russia was seeing, especially during the winter. The European Union was able to find quick alternatives, and the winter was not very cold due to global warming, so that Russia finds itself forced to sell its products for less than half of its price to countries it considers allies (India and China). More than that, Russia will continue to sell gas and oil to Europe, but through Turkey, in a move that proves its need for revenues.
During the past year of the war, the Union countries secured new partnerships to secure their next needs of gas, and many liquefied gas transfer stations were established. Unfortunately, Russia cannot secure its needs in the same way and is looking for new alliances.

The EU was affected pretty severely, mainly by their own sanctions. Lots of businesses have gone bust, even more are on the brink of bankruptcy due to high energy costs and lack of components/materials they used to import from Russia. They won't admit it publicly, but the deadly mix of inflation, energy prices, skyrocketing unemployment and interest rates is killing EU economies. Millions of refugees from Ukraine only make things worse.

The European Union was able to find quick alternatives? Like what kind of alternatives? You know that they're buying the same Russian fossils, breaking their own sanctions and overpaying direly. Ukraine itself buys oil (diesel?) from Russia via the Baltic States (Latvia, Lithuania) for around $5/liter. The EU and US are pumping money, trying to keep that ship afloat without realizing it has already sunk... this has to be stopped ASAP.

The Union countries secured new partnerships to secure their next needs of gas? How did they do it? By buying the same Russian gas for double the normal price?

I'm sorry but you're completely delusional. Reality check will hurt.
   
1018  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.AG SCAM!!! -1000$ on: April 23, 2023, 06:50:29 PM
@Betcoin.AG is just an impudent scam! They blocked me immediately after I deposited $1000 into their account! They asked for a whole bunch of documents and after I provided everything they just blocked the account without the ability to log in!

"The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later when you access the site." At their new domain is allowed, but nothing loads and the balance there is $0. They just scam me for 1000$ with no way to withdraw their money!

I have all the proof of transfers and my identity. Somebody advise me where to go on this forum to open a complaint against them and they are blocked?

Did you report this issue to their support? If yes and it's expected behavior of their website, please file a complaint against them in Scam Accusations thread. It would be pretty logical if they'd at least refund your deposit. 
1019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does this Rule Apply to Institutional Investors? on: April 23, 2023, 06:08:24 PM
There's always a popular non-financial crypto advice to not take out a loan to invest in Bitcoin or go all in. These are useful and crucial advice. However, I am starting to think that it doesn't apply to everyone in the Bitcoin ecosystem particularly institutional investors.

This is stale news but I have to bring it back to buttress my point. This JUN 6 2022 headline of this CNBC report reads "Microstrategy takes on $2.4 billion in debt to buy bitcoin despite recent volatility"

This company actually took out a loan to buy Bitcoin. They are one of the top companies when it comes to Bitcoin holdings. I wonder what Michael Saylor was thinking. Is there a possibility that the warning to not take out a loan to buy Bitcoin doesn't apply to institutional investors being that they have been performing well?

You are mixing apples and oranges here. For retails investors, one the most essential factors is timing. When you go all in makes a difference for you but doesn't make any difference for Michael Saylor and other institutional investors. It simply doesn't matter if they buy at $20k or $70k as it's a long-term investment and they're not planning to sell/cash out in the foreseeable future.  Cool
1020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: April 23, 2023, 03:54:52 PM
A brief overview of today's finals:

Lajovic v Rublev
6:3, 4:6, 6:4

Rune v v.d.Zandschulp
6:4, 1:6, 7:6

Alcaraz v Tsitsipas
6:3, 6:4

Alcaraz v Tsitsipas was the shortest and least interesting final. Carlitos was simply too good, Tsitsipas didn't stand a chance. I think he won several games just with dropshot winners!  Grin

Lajovic v Rublev is a bit unexpected, but Lajovic beating Nole was quite unexpected too and I guess Lajovic deserved it.
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