I notice at the very least they have smartened up and gone from a 50k solid bidwall to a more distributed one. Instantly when they got back into the market the price jumped $0.15/BTC. Assuming their goal is to cash out as much as they can in USD temporarily pumping the bidwalls to raise the asking price they are in the long term causing a decline in bitcoin value per coin. When the steps are there it makes it appear a lot more like they are trying to get rid of their coins while minimizing their financial risk. I would like to believe we are going back up but when they are creating bidwalls and pulling out 50-80k in coin demand instantly its only going to cause the price to fall more dramatically.

I wish we knew who this was so we could ask them what their intentions are. In all likelihood though they would misrepresent them in order to further their own financial positon. Assuming their bidwalls stay in place the next few hours I have no idea what to expect.

I am just wondering what everyone thinks will happen over the next few hours with our manipulator being back in the game. I for one am unsure of their intentions at this point since they disappeared for the last couple of days. I have seen some of his higher bidwalls eaten entirely by sells and apparently some moving back when his higher bidwalls were being eaten. Are they still playing the same old pump and dump game or are they reinvesting their previous takings for more BTC?

Interestingly enough even without the manipulator being obviously involved BTC seemed to hit a real wall at 2.00. I suspect this was due to bitcoinica more than anything but maybe $2 is the real price it will remain at. Does anyone have any numbers as to how many bitcoins were issued in june when the $30 peak happened vs now (7 696 000 BTC) to see how much the total investment in USD has changed over this time period. That is assuming that every dollar USD invested into bitcoins is represented as a dollar value per BTC on MTGox.

Thank you for your understanding Theymos. I would have replied this through a persoanl message but have apparently reached my limit for the hour (to prevent spam presumably). I am now aware of this rule and will adhere to it in the future.

I honestly have to wonder if these people are trying to drive the value down so they can cash in on their shorts or buy a lot of coins at a lower value. Interestingly enough I just saw somone take a 1000BTC bite out of the 2.20 bidwall so we will see how much longer he has it there.

The overdefined edges of the fighters body along with the lighting on the fighter vs the environment of the fighter are a sure bet that is photoshopped. Chuck Norris at least would have been more believable lol.

Try reading before you post. I have not sunk one red cent into mining. I built myself a gaming computer for BF3, MW3 and other games alike. I would like to see bitcoin succeed because I think fiat currencies are a load of bull. Anyone who has watched Zeitgeist would. The only thing I do agree with you is that the manipulator will very soon pull his bidwalls out and the price will fall again.

or photoshopped

Its irrelevant and the point I have been making. A bitcoin is worth what it is worth and that has yet to have been determined. Some people seem to want to drive the price down (aka the manipulator(s)) as far as it can go so they can get as much as they can. Does anyone actually think he pulls out his big bidwalls for any other reason than to drop the price?

$2-$3 is a rational price. $30 is not.

Coincidentally I own less than 10BTC myself because I only mine and have only started doing so recently. So for those of you calling me a deuche or whatever you want go fuck yourself! $2-$3 is a much more rational price because if the price of mining drops so low that it becomes uneconomical for most GPU miners than it can be hijacked.

Go fuck yourself indeed.

Oh boo hoo you arent going to crash bitcoin today. Too f**kin bad!

If this is the manipulator I wish she would come over here and manipulate me. Im guessing she could elevate me to an unsustainable level too 

From the speed Im seeing these walls move I think the manipulator is using some sort of software or bot to move and set up these walls.

From the steps Im seeing on MTGox live i think our manipulator is getting back in it. Just when I thought he was gone for good.

I cant believe it hasn't been done yet. I would gladly participate. Any coders here who want to make this happen?

So no one confirming they have been paid the 1 BTC for the prediction or a statement of winner from the charts. Was this a bull offer or what is going on here? Or maybe he is chewing over whether or not to pay the prize to the one who guessed 10 mins before the end of the window. Some sort of a statement from someone would help to close this matter. Not sure why someone would offer this in the first place anyways.

If you truly believe it was him I think you should send me 50-100BTC. My wallet address is 1HhW4UYNfVH6ByYoSGnbsuHUhW1u43yq3P 

So INAUN whos the winner?

Encrypting the work so that nodes could not be faked would obviously have to be integrated into said work. I guess there is some level of trust that must be given to pool operators that they are not already doing such a thing. Or to fix the problem of a simple verification integrate something into the work that could only be generated if the block was solved correctly. The verification would have to be done in such a way that it could not be faked. Multiple redundancies and different levels of encryption I think could achieve this.

Also verifying back a few blocks might also solve the faking nodes which is essentially what Bitcoin does already. Yes its inefficient as a whole but still a way for people to get paid for folding at home. I have never tried folding at home but there seems to be no incentive for doing it other than for purely altruistic reasons. There are a lot more people who would do it if there were some component in it for themselves. It doesnt have to be much but something is always better than nothing.

I guess with them buying and selling coins on the market to do the work there would still be enough market activity that would raise the price and still in some ways achieve the same goals. If you create your own pool selling work then why would you keep it all yourself? There would only be a short period of time before people figured it out and you would probably have turned some of your tech savvy miners who might also moonlight as hackers against you.