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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 30, 2014, 02:58:32 PM
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here! You've set it up so that everyone suffers.

There is a parable about this, but I couldn't remember where it comes from so I can't quote it properly.

But the thrust of it is that if something seems useless to you, you probably don't fully understand the purpose of it. Only when you can clearly understand and explain the argument in favor of something should you decide you are opposed to it, or vice versa. In fact most things that are worse for everyone doesn't even exist in the world. Ideas that dumb are quickly abandoned. So there must be someone for whom this is better. Try to figure out who that is and why.

Thinking that something is crazy or is worse for everyone when other obviously intelligent people disagree should be a clue that you don't understand it entirely. This doesn't mean you have to change your mind ultimately, but at least open it a crack.
This. I will remember this quote, thanks smooth Smiley And if someone remembers the parable, I'd be happy to read it.
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: August 30, 2014, 02:39:54 PM
I may be strange in that it seems perfectly valid to me. I pay taxes, because by paying, I lose only the sum invested, but by not paying, I risk unforeseen consequences. With Monero there is at least some upside, unlike in paying taxes which is a genuine lose-lose...
This looks like fear of the long arm of the law to me. It is understandable for an individual, but not for a citizen.
I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress (and the fact that individual corporations can achieve it concurrently is not enough of an argument for me). I believe in society, even if I agree that inefficiency and outright corruption plague the world.

One shall not pay taxes because he is afraid of getting caught. One shall pay taxes because he believes in the project called society. To make a conceit, I'd say the fundamentals are strong, even if the implementation leaves an awful lot to be desired. I really believe that a nation could use a cryptocurrency as its main tool, even an anonymous one like Monero.

People are complaining about greedy bastards and selfish miners, but what is paying taxes lest being caught? Not that different. Now, I agree that one shall have the right to refuse (and thus leave society) and this is hard to the point of being practically impossible at the moment (international waters or outer space, anyone?).

That being said, your analogy, Risto, is didactically potent.

Official team (which of course includes eizh) is listed on the first post of this thread:
Who are you?
See Monero Missives #1: "(in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle
And repeated in the Almighty FAQ:
(Sorry eizh, not sure who all is the "Full" dev team so my apologies if you are on it!)
Q: Who are the official development team members?
A: (in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero Community FAQ on: August 30, 2014, 01:19:52 PM
You could choose your own name right? Mine is called wallet.dat and wallet.dat.keys
No problem at all. The donation wallet is donation_general_wallet.bin and even the .bin is optional - it could be monero.wallet or even wallet or important. As long as there is a .keys file attached to it.

If the Bytecoin/CryptoNote devs were scammers, how can we trust that the elliptic curve constants in Monero were not chosen maliciously?
see my post in the main thread - i've specifically asked the devs what / how they think of this and their mathematician's view etc. thanks for reminding me about that. Smiley
http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_review.pdf: "After reading through the entire white paper, my biggest concern is whether the elliptic curve parameters were chosen fairly, or how an honest coin developer could go about changing them if they wanted."
It's not a new curve. The curve is Ed25519, invented by Dan Bernstein, who's also the inventor of the popular Curve25519 (which is the ECDSA version). The rationale for it is given in page 7-8 here: http://ed25519.cr.yp.to/ed25519-20110926.pdf
Quote
Choice of curve.
Our recommended curve for EdDSA is a twisted Edwards curve birationally equivalent to the curve Curve25519 from. Any efficiently computable birational equivalence preserves ECDLP difficulty, so the well-known difficulty of computing ECDLP for Curve25519 immediately implies the difficulty of computing ECDLP for our curve. We use the name Ed25519 for EdDSA with this particular choice of curve.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 30, 2014, 11:42:20 AM
I deposited 228.1 TEK in my wallet on June 30th and haven't touched it since.  I just installed the new wallet (v2.0.1.0) and it only took a few minutes to sync.  A few minutes later I got my stake!  My pathetic, measly stake.  It was 80.8 TEK.  That is 35% after 60 days.  Less than a third of the advertised return.  40% compounded twice would be 96% or nearly 219 TEK.  What is up?  Should I be waiting for another stake?  The second 30 days worth?  I realise it won't always be exactly 40% but this is crazy low.  My plan was to go spend my tax return on TEK tomorrow morning but now I don't know.  I paid 78k for my TEK and now the stake has dropped to 15%.  It's killing me and my wife will to.

Thanks.

As far I know U can't expect 80% interest in  this case.
Cause once your matured coins pass stacking process they resets weights,so they need another 30 days
Min age 30 days. Max age 90 days. That means that you need at least 30 days to stake and if you don't stake after 30 days (because there is too much competition/you weight is not big enough) you still gain more weight for 60 extra days. If after these extra days (and thus you tripled you weight), you still don't stake, you don't get more weight (and probably you won't stake this block ever, but one might get lucky and get a window of opportunity with low competition).

In any case, not 80%. Never Smiley
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 30, 2014, 11:37:18 AM
10 tek can stake ? blackcoin cant stake with 500++, sry i new to pos . was pow only b4

current on hyp , sav , bcx , bc ,tek , silk . just started will start a blog on POS COIN SOON .after i have more data
BC is low-PoS, HYP is high-PoS. despite both being pure PoS, the economics are really different. In low-PoS, interest is just a gimmick, whilst in high-PoS, it is central. I'd say it would be unfair to compare the two.

Feel free to ask questions; we'd love to have more visibility (although Poloniex gave us a lot already). We are here to explore the dynamics of the High-PoS system. In my opinion, high-PoS calls for a different world-view than PoW and low-PoS, including when it comes to merchant adoption.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | PoS only | 750% Annual | Poloniex, AllCoin, & Coin-Swap on: August 30, 2014, 11:09:29 AM
Another teaser for you all  Wink
and yes... my block of 366 is driving me nuts  Tongue

SELECT is good, but it would be even cooler with a MERGE
SELECT  < 300 ; MERGE into blocks of 1000, for instance.

I like that. The min and max is a nice feature too. Next step is to get S4C to write to disc and initialize on startup.  Good work Tranz  Grin
Yes, good work Tranz!

It is optimal under the assumption that you stake every month. Then, the interest you get will be around 1000 HYP, and so not clipped by the max subsidy.
If you keep larger blocks, but open your wallet more often, then you can keep larger blocks and still not get your interest capped.
If you were to stake after 10 days (so, 1.2 days after the shortest time posssible), you could keep blocks of 4500 or something around that value, since you'll get maybe 20%-25% off that, which is almost 1000. But you get clipped if your block takes a while to stake (and as difficulty gets higher, it tends to go that way).
We are working on a fully-fledged solution, ideally something like a wizard asking you "how often do you plan to open your wallet most of the time"? You enter the value and the wallet automatically optimise your blocks accordingly.

but it has the age column in coin control that moneromooo added which has become an essential piece of information for me
Yes, essential is the word.

Hi Guys,

just after some help please. i downloaded hyp wallet on new machine last night, it was synching fine so i sent some HYP from polo to the new address, then fell asleep. When i woke up my machine had turned itself off and when i reboot and try and run hyperstake-qt it gives me an error saying "error loading blkindex.dat" and the application closes. does anyone have any ideas what may be wrong? i know i was bit stupid to send my coins before it had fully synched, will there be any way to recover them?

thanks in advance for any assistance offered.  Wink
Hi and welcome!
I never experienced this. I'd say: delete all the content of your %Appdata%HyperStake folder (assuming you're on Windows, ~/.HyperStake if you are on Mac or Linux) EXCEPT the wallet and maybe .conf/.config). Then restart and wait for resync (and cancel the autosleep feature on your machine at least until sync is complete).
I guess this was some kind of data corruption at OS level (power out, maybe?), not something related to HYP itself.

I added some more information on the HyperStake Development page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=722227.msg8595629#msg8595629. Foxy or presstab, just ask me for the password for this account.

I had a great conversation with Trololoh yesterday on ##hyperstake. I will try to sum it up here.

Feature requests

Multi-wallet (ā la HBN)
  • makes it easier for one person to cater for various NGO
  • makes it easier for everyone to separate "my wallet" from "tip bot", from "reserve for buying gift for grandma's birthday", "paying IRS"

Stake for Charity
a.k.a "The Caritas Initiative"
Drop-down menu for S4C with headers

-----------------------------------------------
||===========================================||
||                  HYP-centered             ||
||===========================================||
|| {*} {x%}        Stacking bounty       (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}        HYP development       (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}           Faucet #1          (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}           Faucet #2          (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}          HyperShield         (?) ||
||===========================================||
||                      NGO                  ||
||===========================================||
|| {*} {x%}          Red Cross           (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}  Reporters without Borders   (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}  Transparency international  (?) ||
||===========================================||
||            Causes of the month            ||
||======================================+====||
|| {*} {x%}    ALS (Icebucket Challenge) (?) ||
|| {*} {x%}     Presstab's birthday      (?) ||
||===========================================||
||                    Custom                 ||
||===========================================||
|| {*} {x%}       (enter address)        (?) ||
-----------------------------------------------


The "(?)" button leads to a pop-up window wich explains the charity and mention, if necessary, that such charity also donate to another charity (daisy chain charity). For instance "1% of the faucet goes to Red Cross".

For Faucets, the (?) will explain that the faucets are meant to be self-replenishing.

For "(enter address)", people would have a "save" option to permanently save this address, like in the address book. Example: one want to give specifically for the translation in Portuguese, he enters the right address (of course, a bounty address for this must have been generated first)

Finally, one can donate to several charities ({*}) and even decide of the amount (base: 1%, min: 0.25% max: 100%) ({x%})

"Fidelity program": "Dear HYP holder. This is now 14 days you've been staking on a daily basis. Ain't it good to receive daily coins? We propose you to give 1% (or more) of these daily gains to one or more cause(s) of your choice. This will be completely transparent for you, the wallet will handle everything. You can always turn it off later, but remember that a small deed can go a long way."

Catchy names
(a.k.a. brandable names)
Inspiration: Apple with catchy names like "CoreAudio", "Quartz", "Grand Central"
Examples:
  • HyperProof: new stacking code (will require hardwork, not in less than 6 months)
  • HyperShield: voluntary buy wall to enforce a minimal price
  • HyperSpread: the wizard that helps getting new stake every day (people would have it easier giving away 1% of their coins if they stake daily - when you see a daily popup (or even several), you are happier. And when you are happier, you are eager to give some money)
Ideally, people would forget about 750% because the rest of the coin (communication, actions) would overshadow this "issue".

Others
  • IRC chat (like TRK)
  • SMS sending (like MYR)
  • Themable wallet (with CSS)
  • On/off features (with checkboxes, risk of bloating)
"Empower the users, they will reward you"
"Let's reinvent PoS!"
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 30, 2014, 10:51:29 AM
You want to use coin control so you use the entire block.  Creating change will create headaches (think thirty .0001tek deposits).  Just open coin control and send your ~100tek to yourself... but don't create change.  Send the entire block amount to yourself.

That's my opinion and everyone else can share theirs...
My blocks are much bigger than 100 TEK, so I could reach the level of atomicity I need. I prefer to ultimately merge all the tiny deposits into one block by manually selecting them later in coin control (I already did it).

so we have to change from conntect to addnode in conf?  thanks for quick answer , david . what is best amount of tek per block?
Yes, if you are on the right chain (check my tutorial for instructions), you can change connect to addnode.

There is no "best amount of TEK", because TEK doesn't implement max_subsidy - one huge block or 30 small ones is the same for TEK.
Now, if you want to better secure the network and at the same time benefitting from the psychological comfort of earning money every day, just divide you total amount of TEK by 30 and every day during one month, you will send to yourself 1/30 of your stash (yes, this is tedious, I'm not sure I will have the discipline to do it myself).
Say you have 300 TEK
Day 1, you send 10 TEK to yourself
Day 2, you send 10 more TEK to yourself
Day 3, same thing
and so on
Every time you will send TEK to yourself, you will reset the coin age of this TEK so you will end up with TEK maturing every day, starting from D1+30.

Four things to consider:
- tiny fees (you will merge them later on)
- coin control works by block, not coin, if I understood correctly. So you might very well end up reset more than 10 TEK or coinage every day and thus earn less than expected the first month (next month, it should be OK)
- after the first month, you will have more than 30 blocks, because blocks get divided to stake, so you will end up with, maybe, 45 or 60 block pretty soon. This is not much of an issue, still, because you will get stake every day and secure the network even more (at the cost of staking less often and possibly a bit lower compounded interest.
- you will encounter dust issue faster, so maintenance will have to be done more often. We are working on a workaround on HYP, that could probably easily be added to TEK later.

All of this under presstab's control of course. He is the coder, I am "just" the brainstormer and the mouth.
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 30, 2014, 10:39:20 AM
In any case, once I staked, I will use the HYP method of spreading my stakes. Probably 30 blocks, one per day. Granted, it also mean I will not stake as often as I would like to, since lower block = longer time to stake.
what is hyp method? please explain

Spreading you blocks instead of having large blocks.
This can be done with any coins, as Thundertoe mentions he will do for his TEK, but in HYP (and CAP and soon HBN), there is an actual economic incentive to do it, called the max_subsidy (a cap on reward, that encourages you not to have too large blocks, since you would not get maximum reward with too large of a block). Max_subsidy helps securing the network because in order to have max reward, people must spread their block, which means more time staking, thus more time securing. Additionally, it also helps controlling inflation, because spreading the blocks means less coumpounding interest (APR interest is untouched). That's why, even with 750 % interest rate, HYP should still have a lower coumpounded interest rate than TEK (or at least, lower than expected with a TEK-formula - I did not bother to the the math to find out the actual coumpounded interest rate for HYP). More accurately, the coumpounded interest for HYP is 97425% (yeah) but only for small amounts that would not give 1000 HYP per block at the end of the year. So my understanding is that the more HYP you have, the less HYP you get. Of course, you get around this by having several wallets running (now is the moment where presstab should come and shout "David, this is the tenth time I'm telling you you have it wrong!")
So, the term "HYP method" is a bit of a misnomer Smiley Better say "HYP habit".

New question: If I want to create 30 blocks of 100 TEK, one staking everyday, could I just send 100 TEK to myself once everyday, without even using the coin control window (since low priority coins are automatically selected)?
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 30, 2014, 10:17:46 AM
PoS diff is dropping like a rock, im coin controlling my coins out away from fork day, If everyone matures and mints again without doing this next month, possibly the PoS diff will climb again and cut payments, also you will mint right with everyone and probably during the months downswing.
So my plan is it divide my total tek into 15+(still trying to decide how many) stacks and coin control one out each day. So in theory next month my stake will be spread out again and hopefully i can hit a higher payment %. I personally prefer a steady stake income as then i can trade some anytime i want without dipping into aged coins.

So, should I stake now for a relatively low reward, or wait one more month for a full reward?
In any case, once I staked, I will use the HYP method of spreading my stakes. Probably 30 blocks, one per day. Granted, it also mean I will not stake as often as I would like to, since lower block = longer time to stake.

Edit: I massively updated the fixing tutorial with all your additions. Take a look.
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 29, 2014, 08:12:32 PM
humble me was there when noodledoodle delivered the first optimized miners, at time i went from 4h/s to 10h/s solo mining on my laptop, many were surprised by how fast and transparently things went
Yeah, good old time. I regret every day not having used my Azure trial on the very first days (I still managed to get several blocks) and waited so long before buying (and not even spending all my BTC there - but then I had only 0.5 BTC left after the Blackcoin debacle).
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [RE-ANN] GrowthCoin PoW/PoS - 100% per year - Version 1.3.0.1 on: August 29, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Is there a future for this coin or is mining wasted time?
There is definitely a future. It is being decided soon. From discussion a few pages back it sounds like a hard fork is in store and all parameters are up for debate.
why dont we make grw2.0?
With a HYP-like fork launch, it could also ensure fair distribution/legacy. But this time with a reasonable grace period!
Granted, this would not be good for GRW, but this would be good for GRW holders. This is not an easy choice to make, that's for sure.
UltraStake, 8 hours min age, 1000%? Someone will use the UltraStake name, anyway.

try to restart with the -rescan switch
Would it fix the "block being stuck" issue?
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 29, 2014, 06:47:29 PM
Why this coin is better then all others altcoin?
FAQ entry: Prove me that Monero is not yet-another-shitcoin.

thats true, but there are also people like me with nearly no btc. we only buy btc to buy monero  Roll Eyes
Same thing here.

XMR as a currency symbol is simply used because its the ISO standard: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
All currencies who arenīt bound to a single country or area are starting with X, like XBT is the currency code for Bitcoin and XCP is the code for Counterparty which have all totally different codebases.
Not only currencies, it also applies to some precious metals: gold (XAU), silver (XAG), palladium (XPD), platinum (XPT) (X+chemical symbol).

[2050] asia becoming the ruler fiat
(offtopic)
Asia is overrated, especially China. China has huge internal problems of many kind which are already kicking in - the Lewis Turning point being a reliable indicator among many others (like a long history of not being united and the tendancy to rest on his laurels, see Ming Dynasty).
Now, if you include India in Asia (you should), this is more plausible - it has the largest population in the world and it will continue and demography is a potent instrument; they also have a 50-years plan on thorium that is about to rise, thanks to their world's biggest reserve of thorium, a much less dangerous nuclear fuel than uranium.
Still, by 2050, I'd start considering Africa.
And by 2070 spatial nation-states/corporations should start becoming a force to be reckoned with.
(/offtopic)
Mmmm... black market import/export dealings of thorium with monero? <= this was an attempt at getting on topic.
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PHS][50% PoS] PhilosopherStone | NoPremine |10 month Dist | 1.6.4.1 on: August 29, 2014, 11:32:30 AM
After TWO MONTHS! I finally got my coins from Cryptsy.

Two months.
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 07:35:22 PM
OK, this one will updated, no more reposting.

We finally have a working TEK again. Of course, caution should be exercised.

0. Everywhere on this tutorial case matters, especially on Unix (Mac and Linux). "T" is not the same letter a "t".
1. Backup your wallet (%appdata%/Teckcoin/wallet.dat on Windows, ~/.tekcoin/wallet.dat on Unix). Ideally two instances on two USB disks.
2. Empty your wallet folder (%appdata%/Teckcoin on Windows, ~/.tekcoin on Unix - Mac and Linux)
3. Copy your backup wallet on the now-empty folder (copy, not move - keep these backups!)
4. In the same wallet folder, create a tekcoin.conf (if you're on Mac of Linux) or tekcoin.config (if you're on Windows) file with the following code:
listen=0
addnode=74.196.63.95
addnode=75.90.67.140
addnode=188.168.134.55
addnode=159.205.243.208
addnode=94.220.6.66
addnode=69.181.230.66
addnode=108.61.10.90
addnode=62.116.254.204
addnode=193.53.89.147
addnode=98.162.248.8
addnode=75.152.82.196

If you are using notepad.exe, you will have to change the .txt extension to .conf. How to do this is beyond the scope of this tutorial[/tt].
5. Download the latest wallet (see addresses on the OP
   - source https://github.com/maxxine/TEK
   - Windows http://www.mediafire.com/download/82390o41vsnwv5v/Tekcoin-qt-fix.zip
   - Mac https://www.dropbox.com/s/y17rjlji1ruxgsv/tekcoin-Qt-2.0.1.0-Mac.zip?dl=0
For Linux users, until there is a binary available, you must manually change Makefile to remove this character string several times: mgw48- - this is an oversight, it will hopefully get fixed later on.
Presently, the wallet includes neither the newer layout nor checkpoints.
6. Run this command (you can ignore this step if you have a pre-forks backup at hand)
Code:
Tekcoin-qt.exe --salvagewallet
We assume you know how to open up a terminal ("DOS window").
For Unix users, replace Tekcoin-qt.exe with Tekcoin-qt.
it will redownload the whole blockchain, which is long but necessary, you'd better not just keep the old blockchain.
You can know if you are on the correct blockchain by typing getinfo in the console or use the stats tab on new GUI. The correct chain is on block 510264
For information, the repair wallet button on the GUI will only look to fill in missing pieces, whilst --salvagewallet will actually attempt to recreate your wallet. If you have coins stuck in unconfirmed even after using Repair wallet, use -rescan.

Note that, if you want to have something closer to the advertised 40%, you should WAIT before stacking, because of high competition (and thus, do not leave you wallet open more than for checking it works). Please note this is not an evidence that NVCS is really working as it should, only that under exceptional circumstances, it does sort work - but this is still not sure it works as intended. Presstab elaborated on this.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
Salvagewallet.  Repair won't do anything.
Can you explain the differences between repair wallet and salvage wallet?

Also, for everyone: repair wallet is a button in the GUI. salvage wallet, on the other hand, can only be access by command-line, with the --salvage-wallet argument. Could someone give the actual command line to enter?
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 06:45:17 PM
Thanks Biomech. Updated instructions:

1. (awaiting confirmation) We finally have a working TEK again - no more forks.
2. (confirmed) Do NOT start up the old client. Get the latest version instead (see OP). For Linux user, you must manually change Makefile to remove this character string several times: mgw48-. Also, the lastest code is not for the newer layout and does NOT yet integrate checkpoints.
3. (confirmed) Do NOT use the older blockchain. Sync everything from scratch (so, delete your /tekcoin folder EXCEPT your wallet, of course).
4. While you're at it, create a tekcoin.conf file like this one (thanks to oto3):
listen=0
connect=74.196.63.95
connect=75.90.67.140
connect=68.229.91.209
connect=108.59.185.202
connect=98.236.102.116
connect=75.91.15.240
connect=94.156.230.246
connect=212.21.68.60

Until further notice, use connect, not addnode.
6. (awaiting confirmation) If you want to have something closer to the advertised 40%, do NOT stake now (and thus, do not leave you wallet open more than for checking it works). Please note this is not an evidence that NVCS is really working as it should, only that under exceptional circumstances, it does sort work - but this is still not sure it works as intended. Presstab elaborated on this.
7. (awaiting confirmation) It would be good to check your wallet. Repair wallet and --salvage-wallet would make sense, but more explanations needed here
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
make sure you ran "qmake tekcoin-qt-linux.pro" an not "qmake tekcoin-qt.pro"
I did but it still contains references to mingw. I have to manually remove them after cloning, so my code is now three steps instead of one

Ideal one step
Code:
mkdir -p ~/cryptos && cd ~/cryptos && rm -rf TEK && git clone git://github.com/maxxine/TEK && cd TEK && qmake-qt5 Tekcoin-qt-linux.pro && make STATIC=1 -f Makefile && ln -s ~/cryptos/TEK/tekcoin-qt ~/Desktop/TEK

Present-day three steps
1. mkdir -p ~/cryptos && cd ~/cryptos && rm -rf TEK && git clone git://github.com/maxxine/TEK && cd TEK
2. edit Tekcoin-qt-linux.pro
3. qmake-qt5 Tekcoin-qt-linux.pro && make STATIC=1 -f Makefile && ln -s ~/cryptos/TEK/tekcoin-qt ~/Desktop/TEK

And the same goes for updates.

Ideal one step
Code:
cd ~/cryptos/TEK && git pull && qmake-qt5 tekcoin-qt.pro && make STATIC=1 -f Makefile

Present-day three steps
1. cd ~/cryptos/TEK && git pull
2. edit Tekcoin-qt-linux.pro
3. qmake-qt5 Tekcoin-qt.pro && make STATIC=1 -f Makefile
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 06:14:43 PM
@ david, yes, it's normally addnode instead of connect. But to make sure, prior to the checkpoints and exclusions, connect will ONLY connect to the noted IP, whereas addnode will allow you to connect to as many peers as it can find.

That is in fact one way to make a test chain. Get the ip of the other guy's wallet, remove or comment out all addnodes, put in the connect statement for ONLY that wallet, and voila! new chain Tongue
Thanks for these explanations, stop believing that I know more than you do Smiley

By the way: I can't compile TEK's new version because it is looking for mingw-specific libraries (-lboost_system-mgw48-mt-s-1_55 -lboost_filesystem-mgw48-mt-s-1_55  -lboost_program_options-mgw48-mt-s-1_55 -lboost_thread-mgw48-mt-s-1_55). Sure, I could manually edit the makefile, but that's not the point of compiling from source to manually edit and I don't know how to commit a tekcoin-qt-linux.pro file (which should be updated manually everytime the tekcoin-qt.pro file would be updated).

I am using Manjaro (Arch-based, not a Debian-based Linux)
Quote
Makefile:418: recipe for target 'Tekcoin-qt' failed

Can you confirm step 2 and step 4?
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 06:09:34 PM
Hope this helps everyone understand the reward system.  I got rid of this altogether in HYP because it wasn't my cup of tea.
Thanks presstab. I updated my previous post accordingly.

The ELI5 version (presstab, don't hesitate to correct me) is that the NVCS code is not smooth enough; it kicks in late and when it kicks in, it kicks hard and this hurts. HYP code is smoother, less painful to users.
For people familiar with Monero and PoW, consider NVCS as block halving and HYP staking (we have to find a better name, press) is continous decrease.
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Mandatory Update! 40%+ SuperStake in 30+ days on: August 28, 2014, 05:55:54 PM
Thanks Biomech and xhabit
Updated version

A. Salvaging
1. (awaiting confirmation) We finally have a working TEK again - no more forks - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.msg8565376#msg8565376. Still,it would be best (but not necessary) to wait for a pending release with checkpoints.
2. (awaiting confirmation) Do NOT start up the old client. Get the latest version instead.
3. (awaiting confirmation) Do NOT use the older blockchain. Sync everything from scratch (so, delete your /tekcoin folder EXCEPT your wallet, of course). A blockchain is available to download somewhere (please point the URL, update the OP
4. (awaiting confirmation) Ideally, use a backup of your wallet, not the latest version of your wallet, which might be on the wrong chain from the past ten days
5. While you're at it, create a tekcoin.conf file like this one
put this in tekcoin.conf (thanks to oto3):
connect=74.196.63.95
connect=75.90.67.140
connect=68.229.91.209
connect=108.59.185.202
connect=98.236.102.116
connect=75.91.15.240
connect=94.156.230.246
connect=212.21.68.60

Notice I thought it is supposed to be addnode=.
6. (awaiting confirmation) If you want to have something closer to the advertised 40%, do NOT stake now (and thus, do not leave you wallet open more than for checking it works). Please note this is not an evidence that NVCS is really working as it should, only that under exceptional circumstances, it does sort work - but this is still not sure it works as intended. Presstab, can you elaborate on this, regarding the TEK NVCS that could still be broken even after the fix? elaborated on this.
7. (awaiting confirmation) It would be good to check your wallet. Repair wallet and --salvage wallet would make sense, but more explanations needed here
8. (awaiting confirmation) Update the OP with instructions.

B. Observations
1. In the future, dev should use #tekcoin (IRC @freenode) or (Skype or any instant messenging people are comfortable with) instead of bitcointalk. This is much faster for debugging.
2. I would welcome a debriefing. What went wrong (biomech wrote up a nice summary), what can be done to improve the process (PDCA/Deming wheel), like setting up a testnet, preparing a checklist before release...
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