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1061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: July 22, 2023, 06:22:15 PM
I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

First off, having an argument with people who aren't open minded is just a total waste of your time. You can tell that the person did already locked that idea in his head and having an argument will not change with what he believed even if you managed to gather some point to somehow alter what he believed.

Second, I don't think or should I say that I don't really believe that people who are already rich are already contented with what they have. Just take for example Jeff Bezos, Jack Ma, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, these names are worth billions individually but you see up to now, they are still expanding their businesses along with their net worth. And then there's Drake who is also worth $250 Million, he is still gambling despite those millions in his possession.
1062  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 22, 2023, 05:54:23 PM
Durant get a bad reputation because he go to Warriors just to win a easy ring and to many nba fans disrespect him just for that reason and also maybe this is the reason why WB is angry with him. But eventhough with that still both deserve respect since both of them is really good and show that they are good in their era.

It seems to me that Durant's chase for easy rings at that time affected not only his reputation but also his legacy. I mean, he is definitely one of the most outstanding players in NBA history, but at the same time, in my opinion, he will always be a notch below players like MJ, Kobe, Dirk, etc., because of that signing with the Warriors.

He indeed received many backlash at that time because he joined the Warriors and the team became an unstoppable team for a couple of season, during his time, he managed to get two MVP Finals trophy and two rings. After that, it was time for him to be on his own because I don't know if he literally said it himself but during those time, it was said that he boasted that he can created his own championship team for which he is struggling up until now.
1063  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 on: July 22, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
There are still no significant changes in the betting odds.

Spence 2.20
Crawford 1.60

Crawford by KO or TKO 3.35
Spence by KO or TKO 7.00

All the attraction points to Spence if you like a big win. Also, you have to believe that Spence will win so you'll not regret your decision. Spence by KO could happen, actually, since Spence has heavy punches and his KO rate is high. Maybe the quickness belongs to Crawford, but who knows.

Their KO difference is not that far and so I think they are somehow equal in that regard.
But when it comes to speed and reach advantage, that will be hard to debate because it is clear that Crawford does have those qualities, still, we cannot discount Errol Spence in this fight because he too can give an explosive and unexpected outcome. It will be a tight fight for sure and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is still thinking which side to bet.

If we base on Thier standings and career records then we can say that they are not too far Thier statistics are almost the same but for me Spence has the momentum and have a good percentage of winning. Also this fight is one of the greatest awaited fight in boxing history because both fighters are strong and popular so without a doubt this will be the star of the year and gamblers must know for this to choose Thier favorite fighters and bet with them.


Everyone have their own sides to take, whatever we say here, it will not change a single thing if they already locked it in their mind whether if it's Crawford or Spence. Same with how would the fight go, people will always have a say regardless of the result. Some will say that it's because of inactivity and some will say that this fight should've made years ago when they are both younger compared today where the other one is already approaching his retirement phase.

You certainly got a point there my friend, this is just like the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight where people will say that the fight should've happened years earlier when the latter is still at its best shape. But news flash mate, it's all about techniques even if it's off the court, we cannot blame some boxers if they choose to fight these known boxers when they are already old because they already knew their chances if they were to fight them at a younger stage and a defeat will certainly have a backlash in their career.
1064  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: July 22, 2023, 04:37:40 PM
Ngannou is a force of nature and very gifted athlete but when it comes to pure boxing ...Tyson will smash him and I don't think we will pas over round 7 in my opinion.

This event is also an entertaining one and I do hope Ngannou will come prepare and give it all he has instead of just grab the money and lose the fight...but we are still very early to talk about what happen besides that Tyson will win  Grin

Up to this date, there is no MMA fighter who have successfully made a name and upsets a known boxer in a boxing fight, many have tried but it's just too good to be true because boxing is a very different sports compared to UFC or other martial arts that they have fought with. They might have a generous amount of power locked in their fists but that will not amount to nothing if they cannot land it perfectly and their stamina will deplete as the fight drags on which will give again an advantage to the boxer.

True besides KO in MMA is more easily executed because of the gloves used.  Watching his preivous UFC fight, I can see Ngannou getting exhausted in this fight come mid round since I see one of the loss of Ngannou where his stamina fell short and unable to effecitively fight against his opponent resulting in his lost.

I am also hesitant if Ngannou can show his knock out power in boxing since the gloves in boxing is way heavier and  can nullify more impact than the gloves they use in UFC.

Both boxing gloves and grappling gloves have their own use and purpose, and when it comes to a boxing fight, of course you would want to wear boxing gloves instead of grappling gloves because it gives your fist more protection and it's less lethal compared to the latter. Besides, true power will be best measured in boxing gloves because not all fighters have the power to knock somebody out using that specific gloves and so we will see if Ngannou is still as powerful in this sport against a knockout specialist like Tyson Fury.
1065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 22, 2023, 04:13:50 PM
Numbers are out of the Garcia vs Davis fight, and it was reported that it made $100 million.



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1681758159889891328

And then Ryan Garcia made $30 Million ++, Obviously Gervonta Davis made more $40 million ++. So the next superfight is Spence-Crawford, and so we will see how big the money will be for them and maybe it's hard to topple the numbers that Garcia-Davis did here.

We should hope that those numbers would encourage other good fighters of boxing to negotiate deals and fight each other hehe. Another fight that I wish should collect a good amount of money is the superfight between Inoue and Fulton. But it appears not much people are very excited about this except for boxing fans.

Also, the fight will not be on a weekend which is strange. Why did they not make Inoue vs. Fulton in Las Vegas? It would certainly collect more money there than in Japan.

That would be too much too ask mainly in this era where politics are more important compared to the figures that they could get if they give the people a fight that they wanted. It would be an entertaining fight for sure if that will happen but again, it's just too much to ask.

For the Fulton vs Inoue fight, I'm sure that Bob Arum already considered having it in Las Vegas but considering that they chose to make it in Japan, that just means that they are generating more revenues compared if it will happen inside the US.
1066  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 21, 2023, 03:08:10 PM
Saudi Arabian League clubs has further told the global football community that quality football can be bought by money.
The Saudi League clubs with their continuous signing of European based players, has made their league to be among the most talked about leagues in the world and they aren't even slowing down any moment from now. More European based players and managers will surely join the league before the transfer window closes

It is true that these teams are still looking for new players at least for the next month , so far there are 5 teams looking for European players
and each of them will bring in 2 to 3 players every season so we can accumulate at least a dozen new players coming this season, it is estimated that the Saudi Professional League will spend millions of dollars for each season to pay players.

Money is not a problem for them and besides, that is what they wanted in the first place, to attract known players from the European League and they know that these acquisitions comes with a hefty price and so we can say that they have been preparing for it, and has been ready for quite a few years now. In the future, Saudi League will be more competitive to the others leagues compared to what they are today.
1067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: July 21, 2023, 02:37:35 PM
Even if we have 194 counties in the world in some countries they don't have football at all or in some other countries football is not a priority and they pay more attention to other sports, I think increasing the number of teams can have bad effects because we can see more countries in the world cup we should not normally see them, more week team in world cup means lowering the quality. <cut>

Well, according to Wikipedia, there are currently 211 men's national football teams affiliated to FIFA, through their national football associations. So, what we can say is that football is played in almost every country of the world. But that is not all, there are also 23 subnational and dependent territories, as well as three states with limited international recognition that are also members of FIFA.


Seems quite a large figure because in one country, there many teams/clubs. But in the upcoming FIFA World Cup, we will have a new format because this time, 48 teams will play and it will be a much longer event compared to the recent World Cups that we have witnessed. As per speculations, we can say that there are some disadvantages and advantages but we will be more certain about those things after witnessing another World Cup that will be introducing a new format.
1068  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: $1,080 Billion powerball lotto winner in the USA on: July 21, 2023, 01:56:28 PM
The cost of the tax deduction is so big even if you only get half but it looks like a joke, there is no choice but to take even if you only get half instead of having to pay the tax with your own money, not only the lottery but even other prizes in my country are almost the same when there is a prize car at certain events, but when you get a car prize, at least you have to pay a tax of around 30% of the car's price. lol

To be honest, I don't really like lottery games, maybe because of problems like this that always happen when I get a prize winner who gets full deductions or taxes and so on, it's clear that it will make me feel uncomfortable enjoying my winnings to the fullest, why not? taking a tax fee or deduction of around under 10% maybe that would be better than half.  Grin

As per the information I've read on the internet today after reading this thread, the winner of Mega Million or Powerball Lotto will have to pay 25 to 30 percent plus the state/local tax which differs on what state you bought the ticket from or at least where you live and that would be another 10 to 15 percent.

But since the winner came from the state of California where they don't tax lottery winners, that specific winner will only have to pay the federal tax.

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California doesn't tax lottery winnings

However, Loyd warns the 24% withholding won't cover the entire tax bill because the prize pushes the winner into the top federal income tax bracket, which is currently 37%.
California doesn't tax lottery winnings, so there's no state tax bill if the winner lives there.
Source

Anyway, congratulations to the winner!  Cheesy
1069  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 21, 2023, 12:58:54 PM

Overall, yes we don't know the future of the team if Harden will be on the Clippers, but I just shared my opinion base on their performances, and experiences in the past. I hope that I'm wrong with the injury part, and hoping still that they will not get injured, but if that happen, Kawhi, PG, and Harden will be traded next year since they have an expiring contract.
Paul George may be on the trade block. That might be the cost of Harden. With the frequency of injuries that PG and Kawhi face, I would look to unload both of them for some younger talent. I cannot see a good future for the Clippers if they plan to try to keep both of these guys.

If it's about talent, there is no doubt that these mentioned players have what it takes to be a champion or at least caliber-like but if we're talking about the welfare of the team while also considering these players health, the Los Angeles Clippers will not benefit if they will still give them an extension within their expense because there is no guarantee that teams will still risks some money for them in the upcoming seasons.
1070  Economy / Economics / Re: Food Crisis - Improved, Worsen or still the same in your country (No Change)? on: July 21, 2023, 03:36:10 AM
Living in a primary agricultural country you'll think the price of agricultural food will be lower, but no. Food crisis in relation to how expensive food is getting, is basically getting worse. Back then you can still get a month worth of food supply with minimum work salary, but no you can barely survive two weeks with it. Most of the locally made/harvested goods are twice as expensive that people who were able to buy them back then now has to think twice about purchasing them.
This is really true. Rice has been getting more expensive despite the fact that rice is one of the major agricultural crops in our country. So how much more from those foods that are being imported from other countries. Obviously, the food price inflation is getting more worse. If before it’s easier for regular earners to eat 3 to 5x a day, now even 3x a day is getting a lot of budget from our own funds.
1071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: To Understand the Potential of BTC, What we Must Know? on: July 21, 2023, 02:57:46 AM
I agree with the op's general idea. The potential of Bitcoin as a currency shines if one understands the issues with banks and fiat, and knows that Bitcoin is truly different. The fact that your funds can't be frozen, and you can send and hold money without anyone's approval, using a non-custodial wallet, is a big thing, but only if a person knows how much oversight banks have.
But to many people, Bitcoin's potential as an investment is much more interesting, and to estimate that, I think one needs to be familiar with the main adoption stories and the price chart.
Bitcoin and fiat are obviously designed as a currency, but the difference is that fiat is centralized which is totally controlled by the government while bitcoin is a decentralized currency which enables you to have the full control over your own coins. Hence, anonymity and privacy is more realized especially if you are a big time bitcoin buyer and seller. However, all the potentials of bitcoin will end up useless if the user alone is not knowledgeable or familiar enough on how to use it at its high advantage. That’s the reason why bitcoin is not used by everyone because some refused to be educated believing that fiat is more than enough compared to bitcoin.
1072  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to grow the bitcoin you have? on: July 20, 2023, 09:59:46 PM
How to grow the bitcoin you have without being involved in gambling or putting it in a custody wallet for APY. Is there any proven low risk method.
Through using DCA. You can always increase your volume of bitcoin by DCAing everytime you receive extra money from your salary, or whenever you see good chances to accumulate more bitcoin. That way, even if the price continue to surge high, your amount of bitcoin continue to increase as well. On the other hand, gambling is not a means to gain more bitcoin, but it’s definitely a way to lose your bitcoin all of a sudden. Know that when you gamble, you are losing your capital most of the time, as winning some amount is still rare to happen.
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can I save my brother by investing in btc now? on: July 20, 2023, 07:36:39 PM
sorry,I come from China,The following is translated by machine ,My brother has leukemia. I have already owed  30,000 US dollars. But my brother still hasn't improved. I finally got the bone marrow last week. The doctor said it would cost about 75,000 US dollars. My total assets are about 3,000 US dollars now. If I want to treat my brother. Is it too late to buy btc now?thank you
Sorry to hear about your current situation but I should say investing your money with bitcoin is not worth the risk this time. Not because it’s not profitable anymore, but because you cannot simply invest and expect quick returns from your capital, especially if that capital is never your spare money. I just hope you can still find other means to provide for your brother’s operation. And maybe you can consider investing in bitcoin later on when you have enough extra money that you can afford to lose.
1074  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Spreading bitcoin awareness; Your personal security matters first on: July 19, 2023, 08:56:17 PM
This is a great way to increase bitcoin adoption spread to others, but isn’t this done at the detriment of the advocate’s safety and privacy?
Of course the one who will share this must already been secured his safety and privacy in a sense that they knew about bitcoin wallet and how to protect it from scams and been stufied the private key and related security purposes.

Some have engage in bitcoin thru trading so likely they are people whom suggest a cex and thats normal since thats what they knew, they heard, they learn and etc. We cant really make it 100% uniform for everyone how they gonna spread bitcoin but since we are in forum we can explain to them what we knew and its up to them to understand and implement whats best for them.

At least we did our part.
Spreading awareness about bitcoin need not to be risky that will eventually put your own security at risk. Just do your part at your own comfort as you can never convince people to believe about bitcoin forcing them to learn especially when their concern is not to break the law made by the government. In fact, this forum alone is a good outlet to spread awareness as we welcome a lot of newbies that are interested to learn about bitcoin and how  it can be used in the real world.
1075  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading tips that helpfull for beginners on: July 19, 2023, 08:22:17 PM
Risk Tolerance :
Define your trading goals it,s may be short-term or may be long-term gain. If you prefer actively managing trading by market news then the shot trade is the best option for you. Profit and loss depend on the risk high risk may give you a high gain or high loss but a good strategy cover it deeply.
Beginners won't understand this too early. What they need to have is to have more experience and gain more knowledge through it and then this will be learned.

This also includes the amount that they want to trade and to start with because not everyone starts big already and that's the entire process that a beginner should go through.
Beginners only goal is to make profits, and that they are not much aware on having some risk tolerance. But as they go on with their experience in the market, consistently making some trades, while gaining more knowledge and honed some skills, they will definitely discover it on their own. As they can’t be successful in their trading career without takings some risk and learning how to minimize or reduce the risk in it.
1076  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A opinion on regrets on: July 19, 2023, 07:59:25 PM
We regret about missing Bitcoin, then about XRP then about Ethereum then Doge then Shiba then Pepe (these are some top of my head and from what I've come across in my crypto term).

Point being there are always new opportunities and dwelling on regrets is futile.


The problem with humans is we always regret for what we missed despite knowing that there was a good chance that we might still not have entered it even if we had an idea about this thing. If I'll tell you today that this shitcoin could rise you'll still call me a stupid and might not agree with me but you'll surely regret it once you see it reaching new heights, fact is that your decision of not believing me was absolutely correct if factually this investment looked wrong to you, other than this you can't do anything more all you can do is trust your own fate.
Most likely, people make instant decision without doing some research at first, or making some moves so they will know if their decision is right or wrong. Then once their decision gone wrong, they will start regretting and continue to miss another opportunities again that could have change their lives. That is a wrong mindset. Yes, everyone is free to make some choices and regret it if things did not work out as planned, but staying in regrets and not moving forward will only make their situation worst, thus leaving them incapable to live their life at its fullest.
1077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't expect everyone to embrace Bitcoin on: July 19, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?
You can not force anyone to embrace bitcoin, people have to discover why bitcoin can benefit them if they buy it. And that is not all, they also need to know the right time to invest and not invest at the wrong time when bitcoin price has increased significantly.

We like or we do not like, people will invest in bitcoin. More people will know it and buy it and the price will continue to increase after long period of time. Some people may not like bitcoin and remain to be bitcoin critics, but if I can invest and make money, I do not care. That is life, everybody can not be on the same side
Everyone has its own say about bitcoin, some would end up acknowledging and become thankful that bitcoin exists, while others continue to make fake news about bitcoin because that’s what also their beliefs about bitcoin, and we have no control for that. However, what’s important is that bitcoiners know the real advantage of bitcoin, and that we keep gaining an edge and grab every opportunity that comes for bitcoin while others continue to miss it and might end up regretting wishing they have not curse bitcoin to death.
1078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: July 17, 2023, 06:17:39 PM
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I personally would want to see an underdog story especially if the challenger is worth it, just like this one because Ngannou is not a push over.
We all probably seen those stories if you're around in the 80s - 90s era where there are challengers surfacing who would want to take their chance.
You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile Grin.
So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.
1079  Economy / Economics / Re: Is poverty a lack of money? on: July 17, 2023, 05:54:27 PM
We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

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I believe that poverty is one of the most controversial issues. The fact is that there is a dilemma about who would you give a million dollars to: to a thousand poor strangers or to one native person? There is no right answer to such a question. My friend crypto millionaire likes to serve to the poor. And I think it's not right. I immediately remember the saying: do not give the poor a fish, but teach him to fish, because then he will be full all his life.

While you are indeed right about that, there is nothing wrong with what your friend is trying to do because serving the poor literally much better than doing nothing, the fact that he is a millionaire doesn't mean that he's the only one that is entitled to help the poor because you too mate have the power to help them. You might not have the resources to help them financially but I'm quite sure that you can teach them how to fish, right?
1080  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023 on: July 16, 2023, 10:26:59 PM
Yes, Nonito is more technical than Pacquaio and probably the reason why he is can fight up to this point. Not that badly damage as compare to Manny wherein he has go to a lot of wars around 126-135 against some of the great boxers during that era. And then at 140-147, fighting bigger guys.

Not really that technical, though Donaire has also suffered devastating knockouts in his career. It's Pacquiao who is truly more technical in the ring. Although he may be perceived as a brawler, his exceptional ring IQ is highly evident in most of his fights, allowing him to dominate his opponents.
Both Nonito Donaire and Manny Pacquiao are highly skilled boxers known for their technical abilities. However, the concept of 'technical' can be subjective. In terms of style, Donaire is often considered more technical because he has mastered the peek-a-boo technique. On the other hand, Manny excels in various aspects of boxing, making him more technically proficient overall compared to Nonito.

I agree, Manny is considered as a brawler, as compare to Nonito who uses more if his boxing skills and then his impeccable timing to win against his opponents. So they are very different in terms of their style, but they accomplished the same goal, winning titles in multiple divisions.

And Nonito Donaire may have another crack to win the bantamweight title at age 40, defying father time just like Manny when he defeated Thurman. So we will see how it goes for Donaire and hopefully he can accomplished this record.

The torch has been passed down, Manny Pacquiao did his time and now while Donaire is still active, he got that responsibility to wave the Filipino flag again and be the second Filipino champion to exist this year. It will be a rocky road because father time is really catching up on him but Donaire is not yet ready to give up his dreams and will attempt again the secure the belt, besides, I know that he got this fight because his opponent is not the kind of boxer who can finish him with a surprise.

I wouldn't category call it a passing of the torch Manny and Nonito is almost contemporaries in their career, although different in weight class. That's why during the mid to late 2010's Philippine boxing is really enjoying it's high because of this 2 fighters and other boxers too.

There are a lot of young Philippine boxer though, but so far, majority of them lost in the last couple of years. And it was just Nonito who was able to win a belt. But now it's Marlon Tapales and hopefully they can make a comeback and produce more world boxing champions. Nonito has a great chance to be included again in history if he will win against Santiago.

Well, it depends on what you mean on your own phrase because by passing of the torch for me, is that Pacquiao entrusted it all to Nonito Donaire to carry the Philippine flag because at that time, Pacquiao did his retirement and since Donaire is still active, there's no sense to pass the torch to a much younger line because Donaire is still active in the sport.

And if Donaire will retire in the next couple of years or this year, we never know when, I think it's much sensible for Casimero to carry it and continue that the have started.
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