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1121  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 06, 2015, 12:44:34 AM
Some fun stuff here on that Bittrex address. With the limited action on Bittrex you can clearly see each dump. The candles that appear smallish are actually the correct height and appear to have happened solely from this address, the bigger dumps were conducted from multiple addresses all at once so the volume candles are huge:



That 466 XPY cleaved from a huge ~89,000 (then 56,000) XPY juggled premine group that started moving 2/25 ended up on this address. Now you idiots on HT know who is doing the dumping. It is the guy with access to the premine coins, the one who has been shuffling ~2,000,000 XPY non-stop for days since the "hack" to try to obscure their origin. I will give you a hint who this might be:

"Somebody's Bittrex address " : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PS56yiwgomeT2gMp8eV8gmXVxdZX6n69xN.htm

Start tracing that stuff Htr's. You will find that it is all coming from the same origin addresses and getting juggled about to confuse things a bit. Wake the fuck up, you are being played for effing FOOLS!






You won't see exchange buys and sells on the blockchain.  Once they hit an exchange deposit address they may get shuffled around in other exchange addresses but the buys and sells happening on the exchange are all happening in a database kept by the exchange itself.  Coins can change hands many times over on the exchange without ever moving from a blockchain wallet address.
1122  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 06:37:50 PM
Ok,  I think 2 things should be addressed here.

You seem to have a ponzi site in your signature, was your account hacked or are you truly that ignorant?

Most of what you see about GAW et al is essentially Newton's Third Law. It did not start out of nowhere, it started and escalated as a response to many many many failures by GAW - from lack of transparency all the way to the SEC investigation. Same about the HT users being ridiculed here. Bitcoin-bar and MrCoins are not the "kindhearted gullible" people.

A few exceptions where innocent bystanders might get caught up in this don't make this some sort of unfair attack. Learn to ignore those and focus on what matters.

If you want to discuss other coins and other cloud services - there are plenty of threads around here. You'll see that scam accusations are not uncommon. The scope of GAW's debacle and your own involvement in it might give you the impression that GAW is somehow singled out. It isn't. The reaction is simply proportional to what's happening.

Lets be clear here my involvement in a Ponzi has nothing to do with this discussion or relevancy.   My involvement with a ponzi  ( my ponzi) is for the same reason of my involvement with Paycoin.   I am a opportunist.    With a Ponzi i seen it is quite clear over the last few months that there is a market for ponzi scheme's and people are willing to risk it.  There is a Demand why should i not provide the service?   If you take note at my negative rep,  there are no comments about me not paying but i was simply flagged for operating it.  I still don't understand the relevancy to this conversation.

My point was not that there are not other discussions about scam coins But none of them are 1500 pages long nor have received this much attention.

and i ask again,  Would it make a difference if gaw were to release Every single one of those features tommorrow?  or would you find something else?


& yes,  Bitcoin bar is dick,   I always chose not to communicate with him in particular because of the way he talks down to other users



So you are running your own ponzi and you are concerned that we are being too mean towards GAW?  Does that about describe your position?  I just want to be sure before I put another moron on ignore is all.
1123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] ipoMiner - Profitable multipool targeting new coins + merged mining! on: March 05, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Would it be worth our time to add MONA to the scrypt multiport?  It seems to cycle with some pretty decent price and it's been around for a bit.

I'd be happy to add it, and have considered it for a while -- the only problem is that it is too high of difficulty for us to mine and find blocks quickly, so switching to it on "low" difficulty blocks would have little benefit.

MONA has around 40% of the difficulty of DOGE, which we find 0-4 blocks a day of on average with merged mining. So if we mined MONA, we could expect to find 1-10 blocks a day if it was the only coin being mined.

I see your point.  Probably not worth it under the circumstances.
1124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] ipoMiner - Profitable multipool targeting new coins + merged mining! on: March 05, 2015, 02:35:30 AM
Would it be worth our time to add MONA to the scrypt multiport?  It seems to cycle with some pretty decent price and it's been around for a bit.
1125  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
You know what else those emails showed (or rather didn't show)?  They showed absolutely nothing about Josh's upcoming, in a week or two, super secret farmed out all over the world project.  Nothing at all.  I also did not see anything from MasterCard about a deal.  I saw some emails between internal GAWbers talking about the news article saying that MasterCard had denied a deal, I saw emails between a GAWber or two and the reporter who ran the story asking for comment, what I did not see was anything from anyone actually working for MasterCard.  You would think there would be something, you know since there was a deal and all.
1126  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 08:57:25 PM
I know MrCoins is actually a very nice person, who is very devoted.

I would love to know what information that comment is based on.


Also this question has been asked a few times but I can't find the answer.  If those emails last night were released by a hacker, why were the google archives blocked so quickly?   Wouldn't the hacker want to keep them up for maximum damage?   Or did GAW complain directly to google to have them shut down?

Ideas in no particular order
- hacker/disgruntled GAW insider got cold feet after seeing the instantaneous shitshow this caused
- these groups were set up by GAW to facilitate the SEC response and they are so dumb they didn't realize everything was public
- deliberate leak by Josh because somewhere in his addled brain this will get him out of the SEC investigation/other criminal charges because he can say he got "hacked, LOL sorry kthxbi!"
-








The emails were already setup to go to the groups.  Maybe it had something to do with what Suchmoon said about them using gmail as the email provider.  The genius part and the reason you know they really are geniuses at work is that the google groups were all set to public.  By default spiders do not crawl google groups so unless you knew the URLs nobody would ever see the groups anyway.  What happened yesterday is that the URLs were posted in this thread making all of the geniuses emails publicly visible.

The reasons they went offline while people were viewing them is someone made them non-public.  I did notice a conspicuous absence of vlad during all of that.
1127  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:52:23 AM
Anyone know who has a bitcoin mine in Wenatchee, WA?  Used S4 I bought from zoomhash is shipping from there.  Hoping it isn't coming from GAW since they are not selling the S4's on their own site.
1128  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:50:10 AM

Here is a download link for some of the GAW email archives:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9MOap-lCD-bZEVpVi1tdjc1MVU/view?usp=sharing


1129  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:46:33 AM
I did not do anything.
You guys should be safe with yourselves.
Anything illegally taken will not be admissible.

Be safe!

Well based on what I saw tonight Josh is about to be in the center of a shitstorm from every side so legally speaking I think the guy is completely hosed.  But what I would like to see as soon as possible is this piece of shit personal ATM machine for Josh that is paycoin finally hit the gutter so Josh can't steal any more money from the more intellectually challenged who insist on giving it to him.
1130  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:39:58 AM
Wow, that was GAWSOME!!!!!!!

Did you get the older one please?  The one with dates from last year?
1131  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:32:16 AM

These are not public anymore.
1132  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:25:36 AM
For you Gaw supporters or Josh himself although he isn't smart enough to get in.
I've already archived it offline and it is on its way to a million places.
so back off

They are all down for me

Are you saying you got all of the ocf one?
1133  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 03:04:50 AM
Well crap. I knew I should have stuck around and archived stuff but I had something to do.
1134  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 02:32:30 AM
Dan Kelley asking for money upfront because of cash flow problems.  Says he is working on the SEC stuff.
https://archive.today/UVbvI

I agree with whoever said the older one seems likely to have better stuff.

If we archive the right stuff I think GAW can be finished tonight.
1135  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 01:13:59 AM
Here is the other hack one: https://archive.today/dF1kO
1136  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 01:08:42 AM
I like the message from Shopify

Me too.  I hope you guys with the quick archiving skills are getting this stuff.  Looks like the hack story was for real too.

shopify: https://archive.today/Vvzg2
hack1: https://archive.today/8CXx4

I saw another one about the hack but can't find it at the moment.
1137  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 12:49:08 AM
The Rishab reply looks to have been posted to a google group.  Jump in while it is still public: http://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/group/josh/subscribe
1138  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 02, 2015, 01:02:09 AM
They have no real valid income other than used miners, correct?   Huh


I'm not sure about even that.  Their website is all jacked up so if you actually tried to go put a miner in your cart you have just a couple of options (after clicking around quite a bit to find them):
-the rockminer at $400 for 470 Gh/s
-a bundle of five of those ancient gridseed dual miners that do 300 Kh/s scrypt and not even enough SHA256 to produce BTC dust for $30
-an innosilicon A2 at a massively overpriced $4k

And that's it.  You can also purchase various overpriced accessories or used PSU's or this: http://www.gawminers.com/collections/all/products/test but essentially nothing anyone in their right mind should be buying.  In fact the whole web store looks to have been messed up by some amateur web admin and never fixed.  And it's been that way for at least a week.
1139  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 01, 2015, 10:01:34 PM
https://hashtalk.org/topic/32776/paybase-service-update-2-27-2015-update

Update (3/1/15)

We want to apologize in not providing more information sooner...but we know you'll understand why. We believe it was in the best interest of our community and know that you will share in that sentiment.

On Friday, February 27, we learned about a coordinated and very sophisticated effort to exploit the databases for PayBase and ZenCloud. As soon as we discovered this, we felt it imperative to shut down the wallet withdrawal service, in the best interest of our customers and community. We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We felt it was important to provide general, non-specific communications as to the identity of the hackers / violators our networks, since they did not know we had discovered what they were doing. This, we felt, was precautionary and again, in your best interest.

While this was happening, we had all hands on deck verifying every database and ensuring there were no other holes or doors they could use. Verification of all databases is in the final stages and we expect to be online later this week, if not sooner.

We also wanted to point out that our existing precautionary measures such as "Pending Withdrawal" function worked as it should, giving us the ability to verify withdrawal transactions. This layer of security made it possible to protect all property, funds and PayCoins.



That whole thing stinks of BS in every detail but especially this:
Quote
"We felt it was important to provide general, non-specific communications as to the identity of the hackers / violators our networks, since they did not know we had discovered what they were doing. This, we felt, was precautionary and again, in your best interest."
 
WTF is that supposed to mean?  Are we supposed to believe that by not announcing that they knew there was an attack they somehow got the upper hand on the attackers?  Did Josh find out their location by being so super secret and send ninjas to exact justice on them?  This has nothing in common with the actions of a professional business that gets hacked (not that I actually believe there was any hack).

There is no way of interpreting this announcement/excuse that does not boil down to one thing: GAW is incompetent.  
1140  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 01, 2015, 05:27:21 PM





I suspect this guy is right about the substance abuse comment.  Josh's posts often seem like they were made while high.
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