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1181  Economy / Services / Re: [OFNT] [AOBT] The Alliance Of Bitcointalk Translators on: September 26, 2023, 12:37:05 PM
I found a translation
[ANN] AgoraDesk.com | Buy ♻️ Sell Bitcoins Anonymously!
in the Russian community

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467744.0
1182  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ETH] Ethereum - мировой компьютер on: September 25, 2023, 11:46:53 AM

Экосистема Ethereum Classic почти мертвая
https://defillama.com/chain/EthereumClassic

EthereumPoW труп
https://defillama.com/chain/EthereumPoW

А если вы не замечаете, интерес к эфиру малость спадает. Его искусственно поддерживают адепты и команда девов, но так долго не будет продолжаться.
Ещё массовый  бздеж про зелёную повестку тоже затих.   Smiley
Я тоже считаю LTC хорошей монетой и храню ее в портфеле. Обычно плачу LTC за различные сервисы, потому что платеж быстрее биткоина.
Давайте немного конкретики, что можно сделать на Каспа и Конфлюкс?
Я высказал свое отношение Эфириуму.
Но не буду скрывать, что относился к нему на протяжении всей его истории, который я был свидетелем с самого его зарождения, очень по разному.
И вот сейчас стал относиться к этому проекту более реалистично и в целом с некоторым негативом именно из за перехода на  PoS. Много раз уже здесь обсуждались причины, почему это плохо, но и какие есть плюсы. Повторяться не имеет смысла.

Что касается этих двух PoW монет (из за  их принадлежности этому протоколу собствено я их и вспомнил), то подробнее и с конкретикой  о них писал в соответствующих топиках:
[KAS] KASPA PoW+DAG монета
и
[CFX] CONFLUX - PoW монета китайского происхождения

Если вернутся к началу, то у эфириума есть основатели:
Виталик Бутерин
Гэвин Вуд (понял куда все это катится и основал Полькадот)
Чарльз Хоскинс (тоже самое..и основал Кардано)
Джозеф Любин

Кто такой Джозеф Любин?
Он основал ConsenSys в 2015 году, потом ConsenSys разработал Метамаск,
и в итоге куда эти разработки идут
https://www.rbc.ru/crypto/news/646b52f09a7947e52af021a0
Метамаск может даже сделать дополнение для налоговых разных стран и взымать налоги с транзакций.

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Но кто такой Джозеф Любин и как он оказался в такой компании, если он не предприниматель?
По нему информация есть, но даже чат ГПТ активно скрывает его биографию, называя его инженером робототехником.
А он работал на высоких должностях в Goldman Sach, Blacksmith Technologies,SyNerG Music  в акционерах у которых Блекрок, Джипи Морган и другие акулы финансового рынка.
За отличные результаты его назначили куратором Виталика.

Если вы за этим следите и все это знайте, то причем здесь ваше мнение? С самого начала основатели знали что будет с проектом, и что "код это закон" не будет работать. Кто мог, свалил.
Проект по мере развития будет централизовываться.

1183  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Biden plan would overhaul 151-year-old mining law, make companies pay royalties on: September 24, 2023, 11:53:07 AM

It seems to me that people in the USA are more afraid of tax inspectors than the police. I'm right?


it depends on what law you're breaking  Cheesy but maybe both are in need of reform. police get paid a huge amount of money and that's all funded by taxpayers. and yet they have attitudes. figure that. tax law is way too complex and if it all got thrown in a trash dumpster and lit on fire that would be a wonderful bonfire...
What's so complicated about US tax law? Declaring cryptocurrencies is quite clear and there are already many good services.
I know that in the USA tax forms do not change for decades, but in Russia declarations change every year and sometimes several times a year. And if you have a company, then you need a good accountant. But on the other hand, if you are self-employed or an individual, then the tax inspectors will pay the least attention to you.
1184  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: P2P Scams : Where does the government stand on: September 24, 2023, 11:42:55 AM
This is good timing about this inquiry since Binance already launch program dedicated o fight this scammers on P2P. They are now giving reward to every P2P scammer that you spotted by reporting them on this form https://www.binance.com/en/survey/728ee8020925499ea62224c4a7cd3d8d.

You can have extra tokens by reporting this scammers! I believe this will reduce scammers since everyone will be eager to report them while they have funds that can be seized by Binance once report is proven.

The program is called Anti-Scam Ninja Program
What is this $5 reward anti-scam program? This makes me laugh.
Fraudsters work on Binance using other people’s personal data, and to combat fraud, you need to verify your identity every week using a video call. In the meantime, as long as it remains possible to work on crypto exchanges using someone else’s documents, fraud will continue.
1185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SBF said: WHAT HAPPENED? on: September 23, 2023, 03:54:42 PM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/silver-point-diameter-scoop-cheap-175533797.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-21/silver-point-diameter-buying-cheap-ftx-claims-in-lehman-redux
"Silver Point, Diameter Scoop Up Cheap FTX Bankruptcy Claims in Lehman Redux
Investors have scooped up at least $250 million of FTX claims
Attestor, Hudson Bay have also taken positions in the debt"

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Cunning manipulators buy assets cheaply, which means there will still be a to the moon.
1186  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: P2P Scams : Where does the government stand on: September 23, 2023, 03:43:11 PM
Yeah sure, We can't blame to the technology, but we have to strict and alert from the scammers. Because scammers are everywhere in the word. P2P is the most powerful things where we can use the money to deposit are withdrawn. But there is also some technical things to understand that how we can alert from scammers. Please choose the best person with many rating and positive reviews, so you can be safe in this process too.
You will understand how P2P exchanges work. The exchange only blocks cryptocurrencies, but it does not control money transfers. Even people on P2P sites with a lot of reviews use other people's bank accounts for payments.
And as soon as fraud occurs in this payment chain, many bank accounts that were linked by transfers may be blocked. And then the bank or police officers will find out the reasons for such payments.

But all this does not happen in reality. Most government does not support cryptocurrencies. So they won't help you out in case you were scammed through P2P.

Also the scammers at P2P are clever enough that they make the other party close the deal without getting the payment. Once you close the deal, the escrow is released and then even binance can't help you.
Any Internet fraud is very poorly investigated in many countries. If the criminal makes a mistake, he will be caught several years later, but the chance of returning the stolen money will be zero.
Even if you are an experienced user, scammers will not be able to deceive you, but it is very easy to get your account blocked.

I gave a simple example. You sold your bitcoins on the exchange via P2P and received money on your card. A year later, the owner of the bank card (drop) sues you and asks you to return the erroneous transfer. And you will lose the trial because you cannot prove in any way that you sent the bitcoins to the drop. In Russia this period is 3 years.
1187  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Biden plan would overhaul 151-year-old mining law, make companies pay royalties on: September 23, 2023, 03:33:02 PM
larry_vw_1955, what country are you from? It is very interesting to me.
I'm in the USA.

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In Russia, drugs, weapons, prostitution, and currency exchange for large sums are prohibited, but all this is available in any small city of 50,000 or more people.
Bans don't work in Russia; they're useless. Thanks to global sanctions, Russia is now experiencing an economic boom.
police love busting people for drugs, weapons and prostitution here. they set up sting operations and everything go to elaborate lengths to bust people so they can get a nice news story written about them. meanwhile they don't do anything about public safety and robberies and murders and rapes. because those don't make them any money.

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Any ban is a sign of weakness. I talk to Europeans and they themselves say that if their government bans cryptocurrencies, they will go on strike.
no one here is going on any type of strike against the government i can guarantee you that. they're too busy with other things.

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Yes, banks can prohibit payments, but most likely they will kill many other businesses at the same time, which will be an even more severe blow to the economy.
i would say that bitcoin is kind of like the stock market to most people here in the usa. they hear it being talked about maybe here and there but don't really think of it doing anything. just something you can buy like a stock. but you can't really use it to do anything...

I don't think the police need special operations because everyone already knows who sells drugs, where the illegal casinos are, and where the illegal currency exchanges take place.
I want to talk badly about the Russian police. The work of the police has become more transparent, and people come there who want to help people, and not earn money from bribes.
It seems to me that people in the USA are more afraid of tax inspectors than the police. I'm right?
1188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I can't keep up with the High gas fees on: September 22, 2023, 11:52:47 AM
I'm an average person with some tech knowledge, and after facing the challenges of inflation, I ventured into the world of cryptocurrency this past year. I'd like to raise what I see as a significant contradiction. I believe it's quite disconnected for many individuals in this community to advocate for self-custody and crypto adoption while simultaneously expecting the average person to tolerate exorbitant gas fees.

When I mention "high gas fees," I'm referring to fees that surpass the current charges imposed by Visa and Mastercard. After all, decentralized finance (DeFi) aims to compete in this space. Is it reasonable to anticipate that individuals investing thousands of dollars should be content with paying tens of dollars in gas fees for each transaction, especially during what we consider "busy" periods?

What do you think would be a solution to this not everyone would be able to keep up with this especially in everyday transactions?

When the transaction amount is 3-5 thousand dollars, then paying 50 dollars for a commission will not be large, because my profit is at least 300-500 dollars. It's expensive, but no one except you manages your coins and tokens.
In L2 solutions the commission is much lower.
1189  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Another one bites the dust? Pakistan will ban crypto and never legalize it on: September 22, 2023, 11:44:05 AM
From this article we can only draw one conclusion: the United States is good at doing dirty tricks using the hands of others. And in politics, what is profitable is always done first. Americans know how to count money and understand perfectly well where to buy cheaper, but their partners do not understand the future consequences.
1190  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Binance, U.S. Affiliate, Changpeng 'CZ' Zhao filed to dismiss a (SEC) lawsuit on: September 22, 2023, 11:33:13 AM
This is a continuation of a long saga
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439961.80

The American division of the Binance exchange no longer operates; pressure was put on the Binance exchange in many countries, but nevertheless the exchange operates in other countries.
Binance cooperates with all governments and tax authorities. Think about why the US wants to destroy Binance so much?
1191  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Biden plan would overhaul 151-year-old mining law, make companies pay royalties on: September 22, 2023, 11:26:18 AM

Bitcoin has already become popular and it is not profitable to fight with it.
You can fight by closing exchanges, but as experience shows, where there is profit, there is a shadow market.

if exchanges were outlawed then people wouldn't be able to use their bank accounts to buy and sell bitcoin. pretty much tanking the price of it. but i think that's the least of bitcoin's worries because i don't see amazon letting people pay with bitcoin. or ebay or anywhere. seems like it hasn't really become useful form of payment yet. which is probably why regulators haven't paid alot of attention to it. yet. but the more places it is used the more regulations as we all know...
larry_vw_1955, what country are you from? It is very interesting to me.
In Russia, drugs, weapons, prostitution, and currency exchange for large sums are prohibited, but all this is available in any small city of 50,000 or more people. Bans don't work in Russia; they're useless. Thanks to global sanctions, Russia is now experiencing an economic boom.

Any ban is a sign of weakness. I talk to Europeans and they themselves say that if their government bans cryptocurrencies, they will go on strike.

Yes, banks can prohibit payments, but most likely they will kill many other businesses at the same time, which will be an even more severe blow to the economy.
1192  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: [ETH] Ethereum - мировой компьютер on: September 22, 2023, 11:12:11 AM

Экосистема Ethereum Classic почти мертвая
https://defillama.com/chain/EthereumClassic

EthereumPoW труп
https://defillama.com/chain/EthereumPoW
Так это же темы, что родились от Эфира только!
А другие PoW  живут гораздо веселее.
Я уж не говорю про главную монету, но так и LTC вроде неплохо себя чувствует. Вот Каспа и Конфлюкс тоже ничего себе так вроде развиваются. Последний даже заручился хоть какой то поддержкой китайских властей, а это дорогого стоит. Так что рановато PoW  протокол хоронить.
А если вы не замечаете, интерес к эфиру малость спадает. Его искусственно поддерживают адепты и команда девов, но так долго не будет продолжаться.
Ещё массовый  бздеж про зелёную повестку тоже затих.   Smiley
Я тоже считаю LTC хорошей монетой и храню ее в портфеле. Обычно плачу LTC за различные сервисы, потому что платеж быстрее биткоина.
Давайте немного конкретики, что можно сделать на Каспа и Конфлюкс?
1193  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: DeFi - "Атаки" и Безопасность on: September 21, 2023, 08:39:45 PM
Недавно один из руководителей SEC намекнул, что они будут продолжать предъявлять новые обвинения как биржам, так и дефи проектам. Мне вот интересно, а что если некоторые дефи проекты прогнутся под натиском регуляторов и начнут внедрять обязательную верификацию для пользователей, пусть даже через фронтенд. Теоретически, это ведь может спровоцировать повышенный интерес у хакеров и, как следствие, массу новых взломов дефи, ведь любые персональные данные пользователей являются так же ценным уловом для них.

Мало того, что это противоречит самой сути дефи(думаю это все понимают), так и регулировать это все будет очень сложно. Ведь юзер в прямом смысле ничего не потеряет, если какая-то свапалка введет кус, в отличии ситуации с биржей, где у него могут заморозить деньги до прохождения кус. Все дефи все равно никогда не окажется под регулированием, скорее единичные проекты.

По-хорошему DeFi совсем не сочетается с государственным регулированием, в этом качестве он никому не будет нужен.

Что может возникнуть вместо него? В качестве альтернативы можно рассмотреть анонимный и конфиденциальный DeFi, например, площадку цифровых активов Tari, на базе протокола Monero. Такая система может стать достойной альтернативой традиционному (теперь уже так!) DeFi.

И она вроде даже создаётся, но это долгострой невероятный, всё пилится и пилится с 2017 года. Уже 6 лет. И нельзя вроде сказать, что проект не развивается, я периодически захожу в telegram, посмотреть что и как.

Вроде там даже Риккардо Спаньи теперь появляется, его же раньше арестовывали, теперь он вроде на свободе и продолжает курировать этот проект. Но всё очень медленно. Сложно создать реально анонимный и децентрализованный проект. На порядок сложнее, чем то, что нам демонстрирует традиционный DeFi.
"Код это закон" прокатывала в начале, когда в Дефи было пару милионов
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185915
Когда в ДеФи миллиарды, любой инвестор покрутит пальцем у виска, если у проектапа не будет блокировок, возможности заморозки смартконтракта и прочих фишек, которые делают проект совершенно не децентрализованным.

Сегодня приводил примеры бесполезности вполне децентрализованных блокчейнов
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996518.msg62879217#msg62879217
запускайте роллапы в эфикиум классике, но только в эту песочницу серьезные инвесторы не придут.
1194  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: UK House of Lords passes bill to seize stolen crypto on: September 21, 2023, 07:56:08 PM
It's a great law and I honestly don't see much downside to it! It was concerning that such laws didn't exist till date but it's good that government are waking up and considering cryptos as a valuable asset so much so that they are bringing in a law to tackle the frauds. It's a positive development most definitely.

Scammers should be penalized at all costs. The governments must set some examples of it. I believe with this law, such things will happen and the stolen cryptos will be recovered to be refunded to the rightful owners. UK is leading the way! We must appreciate such effort.
Have you read this law? Which articles do you like best?
I have no interests in the UK, so I read:
Factsheet: Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill overarching
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/economic-crime-and-corporate-transparency-bill-2022-factsheets/fact-sheet-economic-crime-and-corporate-transparency-bill-overarching

Make it stricter, create a register, give more confiscation powers, etc.. and all this will work primarily against British citizens. But this does not threaten criminals; they will exchange the stolen money on the darknet, and then legalize it in other countries.
1195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX on: September 21, 2023, 10:03:57 AM
Cryptocurrency bridges have many risks, but these risks are mainly for those users who add liquidity to these bridges and, accordingly, receive a reward for this in the form of a share of commissions. If the exchange directions are popular, then the profit reaches 30-40% per year, which is not bad for large capital.
If I use a bridge, then I have little risk unless there is a break-in at that moment.
1196  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: DeFi - "Атаки" и Безопасность on: September 21, 2023, 09:58:23 AM
Недавно один из руководителей SEC намекнул, что они будут продолжать предъявлять новые обвинения как биржам, так и дефи проектам. Мне вот интересно, а что если некоторые дефи проекты прогнутся под натиском регуляторов и начнут внедрять обязательную верификацию для пользователей, пусть даже через фронтенд. Теоретически, это ведь может спровоцировать повышенный интерес у хакеров и, как следствие, массу новых взломов дефи, ведь любые персональные данные пользователей являются так же ценным уловом для них.
По Европе скажу что MiCА никак не регулирует ДеФи, но законодатели придут к этому через пару лет.
1197  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: UK House of Lords passes bill to seize stolen crypto on: September 21, 2023, 09:53:45 AM
I don't know the details of this and older laws, but I'd be surprised if they couldn't already seize funds coming from crimes. So it's just a clarification, and nothing big, right?
Criminals are not idiots either, and they don’t send their money to crypto exchanges. Criminals exchange stolen money from intermediaries for fiat or other pure cryptocurrencies.
But when persecution of large crypto exchanges begins in a large country, we find out that Binance is a sponsor of global terrorism and cryptocurrency laundering Smiley

Laws define work algorithms for all registered market participants and their responsibility for violating any legal requirements.
This means that the commission for laundering stolen cryptocurrencies will increase, and honest users will also face many additional difficulties.
1198  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tax obligation for personal Bitcoin traded to Fiat on: September 21, 2023, 09:40:33 AM
I think the issue here is the adequacy of taxes and tax policy. If a citizen receives income, then the tax system should be very simple for citizens. In Russia, for example, you need to download a smartphone application and pay 4% tax. For convenience, it is better to open a separate account in another banking application so as not to mix your salary and benefits with other income. If such a system worked in the USA and Europe, they would increase tax collection.

That's for sure. There are two things that increase tax revenue:

1. Ease of filing.
2. Low rates.

As in many countries neither of these two things is given in the field of cryptocurrencies many people do not declare them, as there is a certain ease of holding and trading cryptocurrencies without your state knowing about it. Now as governments see that they are missing quite a few taxes out there, in many cases what they have come up with is the opposite: the same difficulty to file taxes, KYC obligations everywhere, and high fees.
Do you know why people don’t declare their crypto savings in Russia?
If a citizen has a couple of thousand dollars, then this makes no sense, because for such amounts there are no fines and no obligation to declare. But if you declare, then you will have more rights in court and you will be able to file statements with the police, because your cryptocurrency is legally declared.

But let's look at the other side, and this is security.
If you have millions of dollars in your bank account, then it is difficult to steal them, but if bandits find out that an ordinary citizen has millions of dollars worth of cryptocurrency, they will rob him.
1199  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Biden plan would overhaul 151-year-old mining law, make companies pay royalties on: September 21, 2023, 09:31:22 AM

The main problem with Bitcoin is that it can no longer be quickly exchanged for cash in many countries. And if you manage to exchange it for cash, then with this money you cannot buy real estate, a car or deposit large sums into bank accounts.
well yeah, if they can cut bitcoin off from making it easy to convert it into fiat then they've pretty much destroyed bitcoin.
https://www.coinbase.com/blog/a-call-to-action-mobilizing-52-million-crypto-owners-into-an-army-of-1
A Call To Action: Mobilizing 52 Million Crypto Owners Into An Army of One Million Advocates For Change

Bitcoin has already become popular and it is not profitable to fight with it.
You can fight by closing exchanges, but as experience shows, where there is profit, there is a shadow market.
Therefore, states are actively fighting cache and reducing its amount to a minimum.

One example from Russia. The regulator prohibited banks from selling currency. The bank could only sell the dollars and euros it bought from citizens. The shadow market for exchanging rubles for stablecoins immediately grew.
1200  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: UK House of Lords passes bill to seize stolen crypto on: September 21, 2023, 09:17:00 AM
I have seen information from Americans that they do not take money from bankrupt exchanges because they do not want to fill out a lot of forms and go through checks with government agencies.
I thought that bureaucracy only existed in our country and that it did not exist in developed countries!!! Wink But I think they only intend that in Crypto.

To clear your doubts, read this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/only-3-of-bittrex-customers-claimed-their-assets-in-bankruptcy/ar-AA1gMozx
"Why it matters: Distinct for its high number of low-balance accounts, the case serves to highlight that being a claimant in a crypto bankruptcy requires a good amount of effort and personal data — and for many, the reward may not justify the price."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/surprisingly-few-us-customers-want-their-bittrex-money-back/ar-AA1gFE9P
"Bittrex, which filed for bankruptcy in May, could be left in profit as customers aren’t claiming their money"
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