Naravno uvek najbolja opcija licno.
Npr ja uvek samo prodajem btc tako da kome treba da kupi uglavnom uvek imam za prodaju bez provizije po bilo kom kursu.
Meni kad je trebalo BTC-a krajem prosle i pocetkom ove godine nisi mi odgovarao na poruke ovde na forumu niti na pozive/poruke na broj koji si mi tada dao.  Moguce da sam bio na odmoru. Ne secam se. Zimi sam uglavnom na snowboardingu pa mozda nisam bio aktivan. Da sad sam gledao poruke. Trebalo je da dodjem do NS ali nisam nikako mogao da nadjem vreme bio sam po Kopaoniku i inostranstvu plus posao. |
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Stake has started working with other places and they now have like a billion games that is not owned by them, so if you have trouble playing in those games realize that the problem is not stake (probably) and it is mostly those third party apps. When it first got announced I told everyone it wasn't a good idea, having a ton of games doesn't make a casino better overnight, it is not really a game changer, it is quite important to have your own games and that is much more important.
I even talked about how I didn't even trusted the probably fair part of the third party apps. Now we see even VPN acts different on stake owned games and third party games, in the end I would say that the clear choice would be to stick to games stake so that you would feel at ease with the games and what could happen.
Many people including me trust stake.com as they are reliable for many years but can we have the same trust on these third party apps on stake ? Do they provide the same level of probably fair system which stake has ? Whats is the stake say on this ? I will only play the builtin stake games unless someone clear my doubts about these third party apps. Unfortunately you are right. Most of the third party games are not even provably fair. We picked our providers carefully and we would say they are trustworthy but not provably fair, and we will continue pushing gaming industry towards provably fair. With crypto gambling foundation we aim to make all casinos and all games provably fair. But in the meantime we definitely recommend players to stick to our stake original games. We put a lot of time and effort into those games and we will continue to do so. Those games are always out top priority. |
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Edukujem se i u doglednoj buducnosti krecem sa investicijom. Bune me malo te provizije banaka, kartice, swift transakcije, pa neki sajtovi prihvataju nase kartice neki ne, Payoneer ne radi... Da li se isplati kupovina preko ECD u odnosu na metod prebacaja eura direkt na Binance SWIFT-om, trgovina na binance, prebacaj na wallet... Na ECD je nesto manje od 5% provizija plus tu ulazi i konverzija iz dinara u EUR verovatno. Ali je jednostavno i kripto se samo pojavi na walletu. A kada bih recimo iz neke banke prebacio na Binance ili CEX kako kontam provizije su do 1%, Binance i CEX ne uzimaju proviziju za SWIFT priliv. Onda imamo trosak kupovine kripta tamo sto kako kontam nije skupo i daleko je ispod 1%, pa na kraju te valute prebacujes na wallet i zavrsio si transakciju. To bi trebalo da bude ispod 2% cela igranka? Onda me zanima zasto da kupujemo preko ECD ako nam je SWIFT i licna kupovina na berzi jeftinija? Sta sam propustio? Isto vazi i za prodaju. U nekim bankama SWIFT priliv je besplatan. Dobijas direktno novac na racun u stranoj valuti. Ne moras posle da kupujes eure kao posle ECD. A trosak slanja sa CEX na primer je 0.3% + € 25.00. Sta sam propustio? --------------------------------- Btw uzmem ja malo tetera preko ECD reko da malo sa exodusa vrtim te pare, neka izgubim ali da vidim kako to ide... kad tamo Exodus trazi da imas nesto ethera da bi mogao da trgujes! Odem na ECD a tamo ne moze da se kupi 0.25 ethera jer je minimlano mislim 15 000 din  Moracu da pogledam tu Telegram grupu da tako kupim malo ethera. Pitanja dodatna: 1. Zar banke dozvoljavaju da radis SWIFT transfer na CEX? Kriptosi nisu zakonski regulisani a i inace mi imamo restriktivan zakon o deviznom poslovanju. 2. Da li je neko platio porez na dobit? Naravno uvek najbolja opcija licno. Npr ja uvek samo prodajem btc tako da kome treba da kupi uglavnom uvek imam za prodaju bez provizije po bilo kom kursu. |
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Pozdrav svima, nov sam u celoj ovoj prici, pa sam hteo da se konsultujem sa vama i zamolim za savet. Elem, odlučio sam da kupim Litecoin. Upoznat sam manje vise tehnicki sa svim, skinuo sam Exodus, medjutim nisam siguran koja menjacnica mi je najbolja opcija? Vidim da se prica da cex ima odredjenih problema, da verifikacija traje predugo itd - da li je onda ECD najbolja opcija? Vidim da ce oni naplatiti proviziju i prilikom kupovine i prilikom prodaje, i to skoro 5% u oba slucaja. Pretpostavljam da ce svako naplatiti proviziju i za kupovinu i za prodaju, ali da li postoji opcija koja je moguća za Srbiju, a da su provizije malo nize? Hvala unapred!
Svaka menjacnica naplacuje proviziju za kupovinu i prodaju. Procenti su razliciti. CEX je odlican za generalnu upotrebu i ima nize provizije od ECD-a. Meni verifikacija nije trajala duze od 24h koliko se secam. Ja CEX koristim samo za uplate i isplate (stara navika ali mislim da isplate najbolje s njima idu od svih centralizovanih menjacnica). Binance koristim za sve ostalo zbog manjih provizija. Postoje i decentralizovane menjacnice (DEX) kao sto je grupa koju mozete pronaci u prethodnim stranicama ovog Thread-a. Zove se "BTC/RSD DEX" i preko telegrama se postavljaju ponude. Nije tesko za nauciti i nema provizija. Ima svojih mana i vrlina. Ja je ne koristim jer vecinu stvari radim u trenutku i nemam vremena da cekam na ponude (nebitno kakva resenja mi tamo nudili, ja se ne bahcem time). Ali iskreno je preporucujem ako prvi put ulazite u kripto i zelite da sto manje platite proviziju. Exodus je odlican novcanik, licno ga koristim i sve o njemu imam najlepse da kazem (osim njihove integrisane menjacnice koja uzima dosta visok %). Ako sam dobro razumeo, Cex naplaćuje 3% + 5 EUR fiksno, a onda na to Telenor jos dodatnih 1.5%? Ovo onda na kraju dodje praktično ista provizija kao da idem preko ECD-a? Trenutno imam dinarski račun u Telenoru, tj Mobi banci, kao i devizni u Intesi. Koliko sam shvatio, Intesa blokira transakcije sa crypto sajtova koje imaju u bazi podataka, tako da mi ostaje Telenor. U tom slucaju, ako su provizije tolike kao što je napisano gore, praktično mi je isto da li idem preko Cex-a ili ECD-a. Ili postoji neki nacin da uplacujem/podizem novac sa Cex-a, a da mi naplacuju samo tih svojih 3% i 5 EUR? CEX salje na karticu ne na racun tako da mozes i na intezinu karticu da povezes. Prednost cexa je tu jedino sto bar bi tako trebalo da ti se to ne vidi kao dobit jer ide na karticu i navodno zaobilazi narodnu banku Srbije. Sa ECD ti ide na racun u dinarima i provizija je manja bar meni. Do 200000din ti pare isto lezu skoro instant. |
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Yo admin, when Play'nGo? Is there any plan to add this slot provider? I dream about playing high RTP version of Play'nGo slots with 0.1$ or 0.2$  Check out our site in the coming days you will be surprised Also im seeing a lot of great feedback from you guys here. That is quite amazing. Thank you sooo much. And the feedback about lag and issues we are seeing. Unfortunately part of that was not on our end but should be better now. We are always working on improving our sites and will continue to do so until we have super smooth and consistent experience for our players. |
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What a fucking scam their own roulette is omg 10 times in a row the same color😂Enjoy my 500$ fucking scammers. Wish you will need to spend it on medicines
I assume that you know that the game is luck based game so provably sometimes it will end up on that result, so if you can't take to lose better not to play and blame the site for your unlucky moments. This site runs for quite long years and I believe they will not put a shade for just 500$ only and the one I see here is your greed eats your money that's why you lose. But if you have evidence for your claims post it here for us to verify. ^ Damn! That is a small number for me. I got before 20+ times red color in a row in roulette but I know that day is not my lucky day.
Based on the luck game is really hard to predict your winning. Move on and play with other game and you probably enjoy. Bear in my that gambling is not your source of income, that is entertainment.
@brandonlang I don’t understand why did you continue to play 10 times in a row on a different colour, why didn’t you take a risk and play on the colour that was continuously winning. Furthermore I too have wagered small amounts on their roulette and at times I did get the same colour, but if i kept getting it wrong then I would keep on switching, because that’s how you win in this game by taking a risk and trusting your luck. Also I do understand your frustration since you have lost $500 but nothing can be done now, except you can try and be active in their chat and recover some money from the rains. After this i tried again the martingala system with the lower stake possible and was a failure too. I 100% sure they have an algorithm so they always win in the longer term. Will try to do it later in their live roulette Martingale doesn't work on anything that has a max bet and a house edge. Ofc that casino always win in the long term thats house edge for you. Casinos would not exist if that was not the case. Gambling is not a skill game its your luck and house edge. Since house edge on our games is very low, luck is huge factor. But in billions of bets casinos always expect to have profit in relation to their house edge. You can run simulations of martingale and you will see that even without house edge it will fail at some point. You can start with very small amount but then you are risking huge amount for just that small starting amount profit. So martingale is rly rly bad strategy in the long run. Unless you have unlimited money and unlimited bet amount it doesn't work. It can work in very short run but its super risky to risk amounts that change exponentially for just your starting amount profit. Here you can take a look at this pretty nicearticlee on martingale. http://gradientdescending.com/martingale-strategies-dont-work-but-we-knew-that-simulation-analysis-in-r/ |
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Feel sorry for the dude, hope he will realize his mistake. Perhaps the most famous example of the gambler's fallacy occurred in a game of roulette at the Monte Carlo Casino on August 18, 1913, when the ball fell in black 26 times in a row. This was an extremely uncommon occurrence: the probability of a sequence of either red or black occurring 26 times in a row is (18/37)^26-1 or around 1 in 66.6 million, assuming the mechanism is unbiased. Gamblers lost millions of francs betting against black, reasoning incorrectly that the streak was causing an imbalance in the randomness of the wheel, and that it had to be followed by a long streak of red. Source.That said, 10 times in a row should be pretty common. When i see this i always refer back to one of this videos... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvIGNXY21Y&t=9s Heh... |
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It is a raffle, you need to have at least 1 ticket in order to have a chance to win it on the drawing time. How to get ticket? Wager $1,000 for 1 ticket, the more you wager the more tickets you get then it means the higher your chance to win it. If you are a big gambler, you have better chance but if you are just a recreational gambler like me, it is still a good chance as there are 50 consolation prize worth $1,000 each. Dont hope too much for the lambo  Oh! I didnt expect to see an another Lambo promotion aside from the other site which had actually made it first and now Stake did the same thing.People do really love lambo eh? $1000 wager for 1 ticket wont really fit out for most small gamblers and as usual high rollers will really have the advantage here but well having 1 ticket would always have the chance.  For me the chance is very low where it is less than 1% but still if you have 1 ticket then you have a opportunity to win the lambo even though it is only small. Their marketing strategy is really good where a lot of big fish want to have the ticket. For me $1,000 is too big but still that $1,000 can become Lambo especially if you win that contest. Of course a lot of people dreaming to have that kind of car so those people who have huge funds are collecting tickets as much as they can for them to increase their chances of winning. People are forgetting that it could be a small or big thing for you, it could be not that much for the website or a lot for the website, there could be a ton of people who joins or maybe not enough people but in the end casino does go out and buy a lambo for you, that is the thing about this, your personal thing doesn't matter, if there are a million people that tries while you have just 0.000001% chance, that still doesn't change that stake is in for a lambo amount of loss. I just hope that as they said they would consider money because lambo specially during this weird pandemic term where shipments are very difficult, would be not a great idea right now, the best would be to actually have money instead, in bitcoin form, that way you could withdraw however you want. Even i had to get 1 ticket for it. Wish me luck |
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Question related to the rambo raffle. In case the winner wont take the lambo and willing to get money equivalent to the Lambo's value.
Is it possible? As I think there are some people who do not want to get a huge attention from other people where he lives.
Or perhaps for some other reasons like something related to TAX.
Here in my country for example, the TAX system is not really friendly as we need to pay some percent from value of the stuff.
Lets say someone from my country win the Lambo, he/she will need to pay at least 17.5% from the value of the Lambo.
So let us know whether it is possible to get money equivalent to the Lambo's value or not?
We're strong believers in making it happen, if the winner prefers to get the cash value in crypto that is a possibility. However I know our CEO is quite excited to go drop off the keys if possible. Yep, that is true. I would highly encourage the winner to take the actual real prize instead of money equivalent. Its free anyways . So why not have fun to it! And yes if anybody wins the Lambo in Europe or even anywhere in up to 3000km driving distance I can promise I will do my best to deliver the car to the winner personally. We will for sure make it a special experience. I know i would definitely take the Lambo instead of money prize. |
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I just noticed the 100$ wager to chat has gone up to $500.. wtf is up with that? The whole idea with the chat is to keep people on the site and for them to socialize. (building a community) Now you restrict the chat section to a small amount of whales and the old regulars will leave the site. Yes, the chat may become a bit spammy sometimes, but it is really not that bad. The chat has become a VIP area now and that is just ridiculous. Take away the "rain" bot and you will get rid of most of the spammers... that is the real problem.  Yeah unfortunately chat is too busy and too much spam too often lately. We would love to have it with no requarements but its too much spam then. We will see how it goes and try to make changes so its good for everybody. |
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I have always suspected they do believe they have good "giveaways/competitions/promotions" but in the end we all know that is not even remotely close. Sure they do have probably the most frequent and high paying "race" or basically known as competition in place, and I do not think anyone but stake can do it this frequently for this high amount.
However that doesn't mean that they have great giveaways as well, I haven't seen a single one in recent memory that made me want to register to their forum, like think about it, they are so low that I would rather not even go register somewhere which would take like 1 minute at max.
FIAT based casinos have always provided better promotions when compared to crypto casinos, but the crypto casinos where primarily established with the goal of anonymity in mind which is why I don't mind less giveaways and promotions from them to be honest. Stake needs to improve a lot in other areas like performance etc in order to be crowned the king of crypto casinos since I don't think they are the best yet. Sites like Crypto Games etc are better in comparison in my opinion. Exactly, it is easy to offer better bonuses and even with no strings attached when you offer it to KYC players. But fiat sites rarely do that. For us every promotion/giveaway we offer it gets abused heavily and it sortof ruins it for real regular players. We will have way better things for players that pass our verification (KYC) process on the site. |
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OMG, 240 slots title!! The competition between casinos will be tight! As a slots lover, this is the best year of my life I hope Stake has promotions too... Don't you guys want to be the best crypto casino out there?  Checked the RTP some of my favorite slots, and it's as good as Bitcasino, nice! Oh, perhaps the dev should move the search box into a more visible place. Tnx for the feedback. Forwarded to our UX UI peeps. I am pretty sure we have the best promotions/giveaways/challenges than any other casino on the market. Also for the guys giving feedback about minimum bet. We are already in negotiations with providers and tying to lower the min bet amount on all the games where its possible. That's a bold statement . Stake offers a lot of good promotions and giveaways, but so does the competition. Also non crypto casinos give some nice promotions/bonuses (such as a 100% reload bonus, which you only need to wager 1x). Great to hear, that you are trying to lower minimum bet amount on the casino games, this is helpful for the "small" gamblers like me. Thats the thing with most crypto or fiat casinos they all offer some bonuses and promotions but most of them if not all are with some requirements after you get them. We im most cases offer NO STRINGS attached bonuses and promos where you can do whatever you want with the bonus straight after we send it to you. You can go ahead and withdraw straight away. Tell me which casinos do that? And also we do it with very big amounts. Because we are not afraid to invest in player and trust they will come back and play with us in the future. If not that is ok too. Other casinos don't do that because they don't want to risk any money on trust and loyalty of their customers. I believe we are quite different than most other casinos when it comes to that approach. |
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When playing on PD, always watch what's going on in the chat. Today the minute I logged in I saw this:  It took me like 30 seconds to roll this one  and I won!  As if that weren't enough, there was a trivia several minutes later, in which I won again:  PD is a fun place to be! Yep . Our chat managers definitely making chat a better place |
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OMG, 240 slots title!! The competition between casinos will be tight! As a slots lover, this is the best year of my life I hope Stake has promotions too... Don't you guys want to be the best crypto casino out there? Checked the RTP some of my favorite slots, and it's as good as Bitcasino, nice! Oh, perhaps the dev should move the search box into a more visible place. Tnx for the feedback. Forwarded to our UX UI peeps. I am pretty sure we have the best promotions/giveaways/challenges than any other casino on the market. Also for the guys giving feedback about minimum bet. We are already in negotiations with providers and tying to lower the min bet amount on all the games where its possible. |
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This new update is pretty decent in my opinion. The big pro is the ability to check details regarding the game like house edge etc before playing which is something I usually check though provably fair mechanism is an issue as the posters above pointed out.
game details and thier house edge is already available before the upgrade afaik but i still love the old site in my opinion , the site looks more complicated now with so many writings while i like the simple design/layout because they arent confusing . Also, the segregation of Stake Originals and 3rd party games in an organized manner is another pro. However, performance still needs improvement in many departments on mobile and desktop.
they need to oganized it so that thier own games wont mixed on the other . its still thier website anyway and the games are only came from thier providers but yes performance had dropped alot . now i often experience much loading operning the first page and opening the games . site refreshes too more often We already did. Top of the page will always be only our games. And also you can select group stake originals and you wont see other games but our. |
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Remember, I'm not complaining about Stake at all. I'm complaining about these providers. That's an important distinction.
It seems to me that you are complaining about their decision to side with all these non provably fair game provider but I truly get your point and your frustration on this matter. For a site like Stake that boast their site being provably fair to side with all these game providers might seems to be an unpleasant thing to some people They have made their decision and have put all those 3rd party game on their site, This will be a starting point to wether Stake will be more popular in the future with all these new games or this would be their downfall for siding with non provably fair provider. I personally choose to believe on the former option Well atleast Stake put the house edge of those 3rd party game in the game description unlike some other site that host the same game
You should try and check their live game like Monopoly, its fun to watch even if you are not betting any @arallmuss @actmyname while I’m yet checking the games I have to ask when did Stake plan this big upgrade, because few days ago when members here were asking for new games they did not provide any insight that these games would be coming this month. Also I saw the live monopoly it’s indeed fun to watch, and I can’t wait to wager some small amounts to test it and hopefully win the big price too. Btw, why Stake team has no interest to cooperate with live dealer providers for better user experience?
I guess they want to maintain their list of games being provably fair. It's easy for them to get a third party provider and get more games but it's better if they slowly release their own games as they'll be known for the uniqueness of their games instead of having several games that could be seen on tons of casinos. Exactly and I do not think that Stake has intentions to provide live dealer games. Even if they want to do so in the future, I guess they will provide it themselves without 3rd party providers. Having original games created by themselves is better than providing tons of games from 3rd party providers. Even if one day they decide to do live dealers for some reason (probably earning more money) they would probably do it themselves and not a provider. It is not really that hard to have few managers, few dealers and some tables in a place and pay them to make more money, however it is one of the costliest ways to start a game and you can never really make it provably fair as well which is a big hit to stake's mindset. They are known to be obsessed about provably fair, they even had like this organization or something for provably fair casinos in crypto world. So, I do not think they will even consider it (and there is really not much reason to it) and even if by some magical luck that they do end up working on it, it will be purely stake workers and stake responsibility and not some third party provider. We thought about that but its not as simple as it seems there is a lot of infrastructure needed to stream that 24/7 But who knows maybe one day I said that about our own live dealers. At that point i already knew we are adding evolution gaming and others obviously but we like to keep our updates secret. We did give some hints though |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said.
Yeah thats the main issue with all this games by various providers. They are generally trusted but not provablyfair. If you care about provablyfair as much as we do you can still play only Stake originals games. However hopefully we can push the industry towards provablyfair and one day hopefully there won't be any casino games that are not provablyfair. |
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there is a new tron site launching soon and they literally stole everything from stake , some of the tron people probably don't know stake so making a warning or something may save them from losing their money to scammers here is the site : rinobet.io twitter : https://twitter.com/Rinobet_topOh lol, this website does look basically like stake from head to toe . However I have to wonder, even though websites could turn out to be scam and that is unrelated, a website that doesn't look like stake can turn out to be scam as well, is there like any way that a website can't steal another websites design? Sure it is tacky to steal design from someone else and every website should strive to be their own, but as long as there is no scamming and no shady stuff going on, just because website has the same GUI that shouldn't really be a bad thing should it? Obviously this one is not in question because they do look like scammy and shady and I am pretty sure they will steal everyone's money in the end, hence why it should be reported, but my question is for other places that could be legit and not scam. Yeah that is stealing IP but probably not worth pursuing. The thing about this sites is that if they are this blatently stealing property of another site then you can expect for them to steal from players as well. If you want to last in this bussines you need to do your own things not steal from others. |
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You can change game tiles on frontpage to be different, else everything is unique coded. You guys really talking about intellectual property on gametile pictures? (on homepage) Those are 12 gamemodes (pictures) to change by your gfx designer. Those that think you can somehow copy a website with cloning HTML? That's just pathetic lmao - like you can get insight in the amount of work put in, theme configuration and such are all setup, you can just change color scheming and such. Any that dares to just "clone" stake.com website and it's feature by some "html cloning" website, can receive a 1k bounty of me. Just the blackjack frontend:  backend:  And this is merely just 1 minigame, it is pathetic to think stake.com would own rights on games that are supplied over 100's of years - theme wise, you can change it. Moreover this is the sale of the backend system, nothing to do with frontend - all I did was take a simple bootstrap layout (like stake.com) to propogate the games upon, of course this isn't ready to be launched as in commercial fashion. You would still need to come up with your own brand marketing and design, also I would like to see proof of concept on any of stake.com's games - as all have been around for since jesus wore sweatpants, all games offered on stake (and in that case, any online casino) are just regular online gambling games that have been around forever. If you do not have the funds or drive to actually do turn this into your own little brand (in terms of theme, customization) and thought you was offered a ready2launch product, think again. I'm offering licensing right now for 250$ a copy, in which you will never-ever find in such fashion which has been stress tested before - else, just waste your money on gambling yourself on stake.com or such. Serious customers can get in-sight into the work that has been done, custom work can be done upon request, not much work to change from default bootstrap layout that stake.com theirself took out of GNU opensource resource. You may understand yourself why they are not patented, as such is not possible on fairly simple and nothing unique in terms of player experience and assets. Unless you talking about intellectual property by those that invented roulette, blackjack, higher lower, throwing dice? Idk, i'll be sure to pay up the intellectual property that belongs to beneficiaries from the < french revolution. EDIT:Here you go, this is how easy it is to be unique:  Literally only intellectual property stake.com (even by a far stretch) may claim. Created these tiles on my home pc within 2 seconds of paint work. I have also replied to your pm and will reply in short here. The only claim we had is that if eventual casino ends up using those exact images that we created they could endup being sued. Ofc we do not lay any claim on the games or anything else. Just using our images directly is not acceptable. I guess you were not clear enough that those would not endup being used in the finished product. Now i can say goodluck in selling your work. Cheers. |
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Btw, why Stake team has no interest to cooperate with live dealer providers for better user experience?
I guess they want to maintain their list of games being provably fair. It's easy for them to get a third party provider and get more games but it's better if they slowly release their own games as they'll be known for the uniqueness of their games instead of having several games that could be seen on tons of casinos. Exactly and I do not think that Stake has intentions to provide live dealer games. Even if they want to do so in the future, I guess they will provide it themselves without 3rd party providers. Having original games created by themselves is better than providing tons of games from 3rd party providers. Even if one day they decide to do live dealers for some reason (probably earning more money) they would probably do it themselves and not a provider. It is not really that hard to have few managers, few dealers and some tables in a place and pay them to make more money, however it is one of the costliest ways to start a game and you can never really make it provably fair as well which is a big hit to stake's mindset. They are known to be obsessed about provably fair, they even had like this organization or something for provably fair casinos in crypto world. So, I do not think they will even consider it (and there is really not much reason to it) and even if by some magical luck that they do end up working on it, it will be purely stake workers and stake responsibility and not some third party provider. We thought about that but its not as simple as it seems there is a lot of infrastructure needed to stream that 24/7 But who knows maybe one day |
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