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1221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: September 09, 2019, 12:40:29 AM
I decided to re-open my Dash Price and Trade Discussion thread in the altcoins speculation section.
Feel free to post in there with regards to Dash price speculation, i have a feeling we will have a lot to
speculate about in the nearby future, as Dash seems to be showing the first signs of price recovery.

Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233119.0

Thank you for reopening the speculation thread. Hopefully price & trade speculation spam migrates there going forward instead of cluttering this announcement thread

No problem, but this Dash ANN thread (like any ANN thread) is free to have price speculation.

Also with regards to our discussion about Monero's last remaining classified security vulnerability, i think i found
the one in question and came to a conclusion here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1007526.msg52399958#msg52399958

Who would have thought it possible for Monero users to locktime their transactions in such a way, that it could make transactions unspendable for the receiver  Shocked
I just hope that Monero users will be informed and protected well enough, by only having updated the readme.md* on Monero's github and shifting responsebility
towards users and exchanges. The problem with this is that every single Monero transaction needs to be thoroughly checked on suspicious locktime activity by its
receivers, which directly undermines Monero's trustless transaction capability.  

*
Quote
### Blockchain-based
Certain blockchain "features" can be considered "bugs" if misused correctly. Consequently, please consider the following:

- When receiving monero, be aware that it may be locked for an arbitrary time if the sender elected to, preventing you from spending that
  monero until the lock time expires. You may want to hold off acting upon such a transaction until the unlock time lapses. To get a sense of
  that time, you can consider the remaining blocktime until unlock as seen in the `show_transfers` command.
1222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 08, 2019, 10:24:19 PM
Its hard to have a technical argument with someone that quotes news articles instead of code. See the Hackerone and or GitHub sources that show the issues being resolved:

https://hackerone.com/monero/hacktivity?order_direction=DESC&order_field=popular&filter=type%3Aall
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/commit/1d5e8f461de0a04891e5e18b0f50e9cf2cf534e1

I'm not talking about the issues that have been resolved with the june update (v0.14.1.0), i'm talking
about the issue that did not get resolved in that update (the last remaining security vulnerability that got
classified and not included into the june update)

There is zero information about this security vulnerability and since Monero is still at v0.14.1.0
(some three months now) this security vulnerability (whatever it is) cant have been resolved
as updates go through github (which is still at v0.14.1.0)

Also think about the meaning of classifying a security vulnerability, this basicly means no public information will be released
about this specific security vulnerability untill it gets resolved, which means it will not be on any public lists or github as to not
give any hackers insight into that security vulnerability. I'm mostly surprised that this one has been classified for three months
now with no end in sight.

Maybe its wise to first gather more information from the Monero Core Developers about this last remaining classified
security vulnerability, so that it can be identified in a future update as indeed having been resolved.
Reading that this vulnerability is mostly classified (not completely classified), there should be some details available that can be shared
with the public for identification purpose (without giving hackers any usefull information).

Edit : i think i found a reference to this classified not-yet-resolved security vulnerability

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/07/04/monero-cryptocurrency-security-flaw-bug-hackerone-disclosure-hack/


Reference : keejef (the one with the blanked out description, due to its classified status i assume).
Closed does not mean resolved, as you can see with the other security vulnerabilities that indeed got resolved and disclosed (the other eight).

As the article mentions only two of the nine security vulnerabilities were of critical status, it does not seem this classified one
is of critical status (two others are according above picture). Which means the classified one could range from low to high status.

To conclude, a quotation from referenced article :

Quote
The bulk of these bugs was submitted roughly four months ago. Eight vulnerabilities have since been patched,
while one remains almost entirely undisclosed. The reports appear to be timed to coincide with the release of
Monero version 0.14.1.0 in June.

Update : i did some further digging and it looks like the classified security vulnerability from keejef has only recentely (28 days ago)
been properly disclosed and merged with Monero's github master. Since it was only an update to the readme.md it does not require a new
software version, which explains why the Monero master on github is still at v0.14.1.0

Whether this disclosure through an update in the readme.md is enough to inform the Monero users about this specific high severity labeled
security vulnerability, i will leave for the readers to decide.

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/5701

readme.md

Quote
### Blockchain-based
Certain blockchain "features" can be considered "bugs" if misused correctly. Consequently, please consider the following:

- When receiving monero, be aware that it may be locked for an arbitrary time if the sender elected to, preventing you from spending that
  monero until the lock time expires. You may want to hold off acting upon such a transaction until the unlock time lapses. To get a sense of
  that time, you can consider the remaining blocktime until unlock as seen in the `show_transfers` command.

That is if the keejef reference on above picture (the one thats blanked out), actually refers to : https://hackerone.com/reports/417515

It is just weird to see that Monero users can put a timelock on their transactions and thereby totally screw the receiver, by making that
transaction effectively unspendable. I can see two types of attack situations : used against exchanges, used against unaware Monero users.

The way that this security vulnerability got resolved is by pointing the responsebility directly towards the users and exchanges instead of
changing how the timelock of transactions is handled in the Monero code. Time will tell if that is the right approach.




1223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [DASH] Dash Price and Trade Discussion Thread on: September 08, 2019, 10:07:45 PM
This is a bit strange (pls note this is the Dash/Euro pair on Kraken) :

https://cryptowat.ch/markets/kraken/dash/eur/4h


I wonder if this was the case of slippery finger, intentional or a low liquidity situation on that specific exchange  Undecided
Maybe its a sign of things to come  Wink
1224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [DASH] Dash Price and Trade Discussion Thread on: September 08, 2019, 10:03:00 PM
Now that this thread is open, will price speculation in the DASH announcement thread be marked as off topic and redirected here?



The bitcointalkforum administrators created the speculation section to unburden the altcoin discussion section specifically. This does not affect
the altcoins ANN threads, which can have price speculation, news information and pretty much everything in between all bundled
inside one thread.

1225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: September 08, 2019, 06:47:51 PM
I decided to re-open my Dash Price and Trade Discussion thread in the altcoins speculation section.
Feel free to post in there with regards to Dash price speculation, i have a feeling we will have a lot to
speculate about in the nearby future, as Dash seems to be showing the first signs of price recovery.

Link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233119.0
1226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [DASH] Dash Price and Trade Discussion Thread on: September 08, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
I decided to re-open this Dash Price and Trade Discussion topic again, because i noticed a need for a more specific price speculation among
Dash users that are using this Bitcointalk forum and this topic could continue serving their needs.

Also i have a feeling that Dash is slowly coming out of its bearmarket and detecting new price trends could be interesting to read about.
So to kick things off, let me show a 1W Dash chart and see if we can detect a new price trend forming :




As a quick reminder from page 1, post 1 :

Anything Dash price and trade related is open for discussion

* Self-moderated thread, accusations of scam or premine towards Dash will not be tolerated
* Please stay On-Topic and do not promote other altcoins in this thread


1227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 08, 2019, 02:52:51 PM

This particular security vulnerability has been labeled :

* mostly classified (which in this case means zero details)
* not fixed with v.0.14.1.0

Since Monero is still on v0.14.1.0 (three months later), this classified security vulnerability is definetely not yet fixed.
I'm not even sure in which category this particular classified security vulnerability falls, is it one of those two critical security vulnerabilities that the article mentions ?

Link : https://finance.yahoo.com/news/monero-patches-security-vulnerabilities-worst-190344413.html

Quote
Monero has revealed nine security vulnerabilities, two of which were assessed as “critical.” Eight of the bugs have already been fixed

Quote
Most of the vulnerabilities seem to have been fixed in June as the reports coincide with the release of Monero version 0.14.1.0 in June.
One, still mostly classified at the moment, awaits a fix.

I'm surprised a Monero classified security vulnerability can linger on this long (three months), without anyone from Monero's community raising any questions about it.
1228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH : News, Information and Discussion on: September 08, 2019, 02:29:22 PM
This week (9/7) at Dash Core Group

- Fixed incomplete version number in Core wallet
- Completed redesigned work for DashWallet iOS
- Removed sync logic from Dash Platform
- Launched http://dash.org in Korean

Read more here : https://blog.dash.org/product-update-september-7-2019-e8db03410e5?source=collection_home---4------0-----------------------

Credits : Tungi17
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52391289#msg52391289


Merchants and ATM Operators Continue to Flock to Dash


Source picture : from article itself

Read more here : https://themerkle.com/merchants-and-atm-operators-continue-to-flock-to-dash/

Credits : A. k. solo
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52394221#msg52394221
1229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 08, 2019, 01:26:17 PM

Fud about vulnerabilities that were found by Monero paid Audit and were patched with no damage to the chain.



The concerned troll aye? Nope Monero blockchain is not to be trusted, sell now. Maybe you should use Zcash I hear you cannot tell how many coins were created with their minting bug. I understand how Dashes Ninja mine wouldn't matter to you since you are in on the masternode scam.

Lets make my question more understandable : are all Monero's security vulnerabilities fixed by now or not ?

Quote
Most of the vulnerabilities seem to have been fixed in June as the reports coincide with the release of Monero version 0.14.1.0 in June.
One, still mostly classified at the moment, awaits a fix.

a simple yes or no would be enough...... thank you.

Edit : on the off chance that the answer is no, can you please explain why its taking more then two months to issue a hotfix for a security vulnerability ?


I just checked Monero's github (https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases) and latest version is indeed still v.0.14.1.0
Which means i dont need an answer to my question if the classified security vulnerability has been fixed or not.
Clearly it has not.

Security vulnerabilities are like ticking timebombs, just waiting to explode. Because so much time has passed by without Monero Core Developers
actually fixing this last remaining security vulnerability and the fact that it became public knowledge awhile back that Monero has a not-yet-fixed
security vulnerability the chance of active exploitation becomes higher the more time passes. At this point chances are that this security vulnerability
is getting actively exploited in its closed blockchain (closed blockchain in this case means this exploit is invisible to the general public).

At this point i would start asking questions to the Monero developers about this security vulnerability :

* is it fixable ? Or is the security vulnerability of such nature that its beyond the technical capabilities of the Monero Core Developers ?
* why keep it classified for this long ? keeping something classified this long smells like a cover-up
* why is there no feedback about this specific security vulnerability ? a simple status-update from time to time to its community ?

To conclude, cryptoprojects are evaluated on their ability to fix bugs and security vulnerabilities in a timely manner. Those cryptoprojects
that fail in that regard are making it much harder for themselfes on topics like integration and expansion.
1230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 08, 2019, 02:53:06 AM

Fud about vulnerabilities that were found by Monero paid Audit and were patched with no damage to the chain.



The concerned troll aye? Nope Monero blockchain is not to be trusted, sell now. Maybe you should use Zcash I hear you cannot tell how many coins were created with their minting bug. I understand how Dashes Ninja mine wouldn't matter to you since you are in on the masternode scam.

Lets make my question more understandable : are all Monero's security vulnerabilities fixed by now or not ?

Quote
Most of the vulnerabilities seem to have been fixed in June as the reports coincide with the release of Monero version 0.14.1.0 in June.
One, still mostly classified at the moment, awaits a fix.

a simple yes or no would be enough...... thank you.

Edit : on the off chance that the answer is no, can you please explain why its taking more then three months to issue a hotfix for a security vulnerability ?
1231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 07, 2019, 12:07:05 PM
Dash Partners with IQ CashNow Adding 1,000+ New Dash-Accepting Merchants



LOL, https://www.iqcashnow.com/?lang=en works for Monero as well. Duh

My mistake, i did not see Monero's logo down there. I was only noticing Dash logo up there next to Litecoin.
Now we (Dash) just need to switch places with Litecoin and we should be on the right spot.

On a sidenote : is there an update on Monero's security vulnerabilities ?  Is there still one Monero security vulnerability up and running (as in not fixed) ?

Link : https://finance.yahoo.com/news/monero-patches-security-vulnerabilities-worst-190344413.html

Quote
Monero has revealed nine security vulnerabilities, two of which were assessed as “critical.” Eight of the bugs have already been fixed,
The Next Web's Hard Fork writes.

I'm just curious as i never got a confirmation that the last one got fixed too, actually i got no information about that last one whatsoever......

Quote
Most of the vulnerabilities seem to have been fixed in June as the reports coincide with the release of Monero version 0.14.1.0 in June.
One, still mostly classified at the moment, awaits a fix.

Interesting, for Monero's sake i hope people are not exploiting the hack out of that security vulnerability. Could be difficult to notice i guess,
with Monero's closed blockchain and all. Article was from 2 months ago by the way and refers to v0.14.1.0 as latest Monero update......

1232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH : News, Information and Discussion on: September 07, 2019, 08:29:21 AM
Ryan Taylor Q&A on Dash updates, Staking vs. Mining, Chainlocks and the Investment Foundation


Source picture : screenshot Reddit

Credits : drjulianhosp (reddit)
Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/d0px2i/ryan_taylor_qa_on_dash_updates_staking_vs_mining/
Direct video link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F9oXntVfNc&feature=youtu.be
 
1233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH : News, Information and Discussion on: September 07, 2019, 08:11:48 AM
Dash Shifts Focus to Merchant Buyback Options to Create Closed-Loop Eco-system



Dash adoption efforts have shifted focus to creating a closed-loop ecosystem economy including buyback programs for merchants seeking to convert their
acquired Dash and customers looking to buy so they can spend, including a new merchant solution by EletroPay.

Read more - https://dashnews.org/dash-shifts-focus-to-merchant-buyback-options-to-create-closed-loop-ecosystem/

Credits : NibiruHybrid
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52380412#msg52380412



Dash is being restricted on exchanges!

Dash has a wealth of innovation, leading to a top-flight currency usage experience. Old-school confirmations, while still used for an extra layer of security,
are no longer needed due to Dash's Chainlocks innovation. Exchanges refuse to recognize this, and make Dash play by the old-school rules when it clearly
does not need to anymore.

Enough is enough. Exchanges, enable Instantsend deposits and withdrawals for your customers! You wouldn't put a speed limiter on a Lambo, would you?



#FreeDash #DigitalCash #DashNation

Credits : TaoOfSaatoshi
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52384357#msg52384357
1234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 06, 2019, 04:42:24 PM
Dash UP with regards to number of transactions, but to be honest i think Dash has always been UP like that.
And with regards to that huge spike in Dash transactions, dont worry it was just a little (but very successfull) stress test.



I'm starting to really really like this thread, i guess i will be posting a lot in here. Specially with all the Dash developments going on and how each
single one of them gives direct cause to Dash price speculation  Grin

Dont worry Icey, i will keep your speculation thread alive ... you can count on me.


To be honest, i'm already bored with this thread  Embarrassed
1235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 06, 2019, 04:03:03 PM
Dash UP with regards to number of active masternodes, approaching new ATH
Monero DOWN with regards to full nodes (from well over 2000 to 1576 acc MoneroHash .. ouch)



Dash Circulating Supply stats

Dash Circulating Supply (acc coinmarketcap)     :  9.024.651 Dash
Dash Current Combined Masternode Collateral* : -4.966.000 Dash
* 4966 active masternodes x 1000 Dash
 
Actual Dash Circulating Supply available for circulation on exchanges / markets :  4.058.651 Dash

Rising demand versus restricted supply (specially in comparison with other cryptoprojects),
i wonder what this will do to the (longterm) Dash price, lets speculate  Grin
1236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 06, 2019, 03:48:47 PM
Dash Partners with IQ CashNow Adding 1,000+ New Dash-Accepting Merchants



Dash has partnered with cryptocurrency ATM and merchant solution provider IQ CashNow, adding an additional over 1,000 Dash-accepting merchants as well
as integration into over 250 additional ATMs, growing Dash merchant adoption significantly.

Read more - https://dashnews.org/dash-partners-with-iq-cashnow-adding-1000-new-dash-accepting-merchants/

Credits : NibiruHybrid
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52368807#msg52368807


Dash UP with regards to Dash integration and expansion, i wonder what this will do to the (longterm) Dash price, lets speculate  Grin
-qwiz
1237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: September 06, 2019, 03:31:32 PM
Must kinda suck for these monero trolls to have this moderated thread with an OP that used to delete any
pro Dash posts, only to have this OP go AWOL... making it effectively a non-moderated thread.

Remember my previous post about certain members of the Monero community saying or doing almost anything
to put Dash in a bad spotlight ?

See post above, where Dash Evolution (a fundamental update of Dash, in the making some 4 years now, not released yet on testnet
and only possible because of Dash two-tiered network consisting of miners & masternodes), is somehow codewise related to Monero  Roll Eyes

Trying to discredit a project development that you dont fully understand or comprehend is never a very smart thing to do.
It makes you look like an amateur, someone to not take serious, someone to put on ignore (which i just did).
1238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH : News, Information and Discussion on: September 06, 2019, 01:57:31 PM
Bitcoin Lightning Network Security Vulnerabilities Exposed, Profitability Struggles



The Lightning Network, the off-chain cryptocurrency scaling solution purposed for Bitcoin, has struggled to live up to expectations within the crypto community. It has suffered from stalling and security vulnerabilities which have become more pronounced in recent times, as well as challenges to node operator profitability.

Read more - https://dashnews.org/bitcoin-lightning-network-security-vulnerabilities-exposed-profitability-struggles/

Credits : NibiruHybrid
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52371856#msg52371856


What most Bitcoin fans dont realize about the Lightning Network is that its still in Alpha phase, unsupported (not actually suppose to be on Mainnet already)
and that it opens a lot of additional attack vectors that you dont find with on-chain upscaling. Because its still in Alpha phase it could take a number of years before
it gets either the support from the core developers of Bitcoin or the overall rollout on Bitcoin's Mainnet by the core developers of Bitcoin.

Then there is the question of how centralized Bitcoin will become because of this off-chain direction. Bitcoin is already centralized through its mining pools of which
a majority is located in China, increasing the risk of a 51% attack from a China controlled combined mining pools attack under direct orders of the Chinese government.
With going the off-chain route Bitcoin further risks centralization when the rerouting of the payment channels leads to the creation of centralized Lightning Hubs keeping funds mandatory online, vulnerable to hacking / ddos attacks and where those funds could end up getting trapped inside their Lightning channel.
-qwiz
1239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: September 06, 2019, 01:14:51 PM
blabla ..  premine .. blabla

Great, another noob that does not know what premine means.
To noob : pls google premine before using words you dont understand, thank you.

If noob does not even understand the word premine, what else does noob not understand ?  Undecided

Dash was never premined of course, only noobs and trolls still use that word in a desperate attempt to get Dash into the
premine corner. Noob / Troll pretty much REKT himself, using that word.

Link : https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification
 

dumb troll trying to spread a lot of non-fact, non-motivated FUD (and failing of course)

Instant ignore, thank you for making it easy for all of us in here to spot a troll. We all really appreciate it.

1240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH : News, Information and Discussion on: September 05, 2019, 07:31:59 PM
Dash Partners with IQ CashNow Adding 1,000+ New Dash-Accepting Merchants



Dash has partnered with cryptocurrency ATM and merchant solution provider IQ CashNow, adding an additional over 1,000 Dash-accepting merchants as well as integration into over 250 additional ATMs, growing Dash merchant adoption significantly.

Read more - https://dashnews.org/dash-partners-with-iq-cashnow-adding-1000-new-dash-accepting-merchants/

Credits : NibiruHybrid
Source : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg52368807#msg52368807


This is fantastic news, additional over 1000 merchants accepting Dash and at the same time expanding the number of Dash-enabled ATM's
-qwiz
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