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1281  Economy / Reputation / Re: Roobet.com not paying on their mistakes on: December 04, 2019, 06:52:35 PM
Given that the maximum win is $2000 and that the maximum bet whilst maintaining house edge (in this particular instance) is $55.55, shouldn't yahoo get $2000 + ($323.949 - $55.55)?

And check out this scenario which complicates things in regards to betting:


Suppose someone bets $1000 on red.
It would be -ev to bet on any other option that pays out red numbers. Huh

But depending on the outcome, both sides will have differing arguments...
1282  Economy / Reputation / Re: Forum going down the tubes on: December 04, 2019, 04:30:27 PM
ðºÞæ

noun (proper)

  1. idiot
I suppose if we were to create an account called "omnibenevolent" it would be impossible for it to scam, even if it took your money.
1283  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ShitnRip on: December 04, 2019, 04:14:20 PM
Mask the weed with shit
Sweet odors mixed with sepsis
Just don't pack
this bowl
1284  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] 4x 2oz Silver Perfection! PR70DCAM + MS70 | 5 Days on: December 03, 2019, 07:16:10 PM
1 @ 0.0075
2 @ 0.0060
1285  Economy / Reputation / Re: Forum going down the tubes on: December 03, 2019, 06:06:05 PM
Try harder next time.
In civilized world this is libel not part of discussion.
1286  Other / Meta / Re: Caption results on: December 03, 2019, 12:16:58 AM
Would be cool to see the individual who submitted each caption.

I actually forgot which one of them I'd entered, myself... :/
1287  Economy / Reputation / Re: A Song of Vices and Ire: Alternate Account Campaign Enrollment on: December 01, 2019, 06:51:26 PM
Bottom line: it makes business sense for the campaigns to do what they're doing. Whether its for budget management purposes, or for better ROI, or for better quality - it's up to the campaigns.
I can accept that, but from a reputation standpoint, I'm still somewhat standing in my original soil - I'm going to let these ideas fester for a bit from an external perspective and analyze the discussion before making any further replies.

I'm open to changing my mind on this  - just wanted to make sure you knew this was in regard to the negative feedback (and perhaps flags, though I have not done full dives on trust yet) that was created because of this communal consensus against alts.

Lifting the post limit for everyone is probably not going to happen since it would blow the budget of a campaign. But getting one personal exception from one campaign manager if you're an exceptional poster should be easier than convincing everyone to change their campaign rules for every participant, right?
I can accept this as a sensible solution if we are strictly talking campaign-side (that of business and not of ideological values).
1288  Economy / Reputation / Re: A Song of Vices and Ire: Alternate Account Campaign Enrollment on: November 30, 2019, 06:34:02 PM
For what purpose?
What is this naive question?
This question is intended as a question for you. I do not know your thoughts in their entirety and this is merely an act of communication: no ulterior motive. I just want to make sure I understand your whole argument rather than create an accidental strawman.

Are you going to fight those who attack users that enrol several accounts in campaigns actively?
Sure: after all, as of the time writing this post, I still see no logical precursor for this rule.

If there are no such users, keep the rule.
I don't follow. The situation you are creating is one where the rule is implemented either directly via a genuine rule or indirectly via retaliation from other users.

Like I said, this is trivial; I could fill probably half of all decent BTC running campaign without blinking. Is such a case a desired outcome? At least with a rule, there's a deterrent in the form of punishment (you'd get kicked out and likely neg. rated afterwards ruining your accounts).
It is equally trivial to prevent your accounts from being linked. Again, I fail to see the practicality of the rule -- I might understand the rationale once you indicate the negatives of an individual's account list encompassing a significant portion of the signature campaign.
If you choose to enroll multiple accounts in one campaign you are essentially ripping off your employer. Most campaigns have a minimum post count to qualify for payment, that doesn't mean that is the full scope of work for the week. That is just the bare minimum. Reaching this doesn't mean the company is getting fair value for their advertising dollars if you were to say load in account 2 then 3 for a total of 75 posts being paid 3X. When in reality they should have received the 75 posts under 1 account for 1X payment.
This is under the assumption that users exceed the maximum. You might get a few extra posts from those that are borderline spammers (take a look at some of the lower-end campaigns) but most of the time you will see people just post up to the cap and stop.

Moreover, if they wanted more posts, they could simply ask for that post requirement. Am I wrong?
1289  Economy / Reputation / Re: A Song of Vices and Ire: Alternate Account Campaign Enrollment on: November 30, 2019, 06:16:50 PM
no difference to you nor me really.
Then I see no reason to keep the rule active.

Because an army of imbeciles would attack the user once found out.
For what purpose?

And in this instance, if the user is found out, this is irrespective of whether the rule is implemented or not. Any retaliation against the activity would be that of a community action. In this case, I would rather know the public alternate account linkages between identities rather than create an incentive for people who do in secret.
1290  Economy / Reputation / Re: A Song of Vices and Ire: Alternate Account Campaign Enrollment on: November 30, 2019, 06:07:52 PM
Are you saying that if I joined with 10 alt accounts, that QS & co. wouldn't troll the fuck out of the forum? Roll Eyes
What is the pragmatic difference of using the rule vs. not using the rule? I don't see one.

I am willing to hear out your ideas, of course. I am still actively contemplating this as it has crossed my previous ideals.

single user could handle whole campaigns that way. Cheesy
Interesting, but why could this not happen right now?
1291  Economy / Reputation / A Song of Vices and Ire: Alternate Account Campaign Enrollment on: November 30, 2019, 06:04:28 PM
Preface

There has been an itch that has been incongruous with my desires of the forum to which I have vocalized to a few individuals prior to the completion of this text. As once said, brevity is the soul of wit thus I shall concisely examine the renegade philosophy that has clashed against my previous actions. This is, of course, regarding the use of alternate accounts in campaigns, whether they are both within the same campaign or not. The status quo has been to prevent the registration of alternate accounts, however, I have reason to believe that this is merely a surface-level bandage rather than something that can be continued in a long-term setting.

Rationale

Why would I—an anti-spam advocate—suddenly twist zhopself inside-out and begin protesting against the current measures against spam? The intent behind the anti-alt rule is simple: to prevent spam induced by a user's division of labor through a higher frequency of posting.

If one follows the logic without question, then one would come to a similar conclusion only without considering any other factors. We are under this asinine presumption, wherein one expects a user to solely post without regard for their quality when they are using multiple accounts. We do, in fact, have an example of a user who participates in multiple campaigns with publicly-announced alternate accounts: hilariousandco, hilariousetc.

A sweeping generalization can be okay to begin with constructing an idea, though it means that you have the foundation built upon some unsteady scaffolds. Much like an Italian Jenga tower, it will start leaning until it cannot handle the weight of the task upon its unsteady roots.

If we simplify the equation of post quality into the following:

P := post quality
A := number of accounts enrolled

One will usually assume that P and A are inversely proportional. I will, in fact, agree with this metric. However, to use this as the reason for restricting entry is merely a form of fallacious argumentation. The underlying reason that someone is creating poor quality posts is simply that: they cannot create better-quality posts.

If you consider each account independent of the actual cryptographic identity (i.e. hilarious is a cryptographic identity, whereas they own multiple accounts) then you are able to isolate the post quality to each account. We should not be conflating the possibility of spam with the evidence of spam.

There is but a simple solution: abolish the rule.

If, in the event, an individual does enroll with multiple accounts but maintains stellar post quality, it is no different than if a separate cryptographic individual has enrolled with a single account. One may argue against this in lieu of active spam protection, but if spam is a problem then you should eliminate users because they are spamming, not because they might spam.

Moreover, this rule falls in the same way that most legislation does: adaptability. It is quite evident that there are clandestine alts, much like there are public alts. And, yes: they do get caught... but remember, if they were already spamming, then why were they still in the campaign?

TL;DR

Preventing alternate accounts from enrolling in campaigns is stupid. It does not prevent people who secretly use alts and it does not prevent spam. Preventing someone from joining because they have poor post quality is better than preventing someone from joining because they might have poor post quality because of the multiple accounts.
1292  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN] FREE Daily Raffles >>> FREE Mega Raffle on: November 30, 2019, 02:47:43 AM
I'll swipe that last ticket! Smiley
1293  Economy / Lending / Re: TMAN's lending service.... on: November 28, 2019, 07:16:29 PM
Ah, ah... it's time for the main account to produce a rue-quest.

Loan Amount: 0.25 BTC.
Address: 398Ak4oMxdPf3bWGGWDeFaNDBYB9NzvxwS
Collateral:

Premise

The Gales of Wind - A Redundant Inquisitive Investigation Into a Recursive Inquiry

Be it far from the truth that an oxymoronic addict of semantic chaos and egregiously egregious content(which is it?!) wishes to play the same field as the ones who thrive on gasping and lashing and self-annihilating masking of their desires and self-righteous, holier-than-thou, yet envious indignation.

Ah, but when an opportunity arises to cast the far-reaching net of asinine pretentiousness, a user who ironically spouts remarks about brevity surely wouldn't hesitate not deny TMAN the lack of opportunity of receiving an absence of consecutive negations in a row.

Lamenting the death of various mental gymnastics, I seek to push the forum towards prosperity in the form of an ideological renaissance rather than that of a financial nature.

Look at the state of the boards: do you see those cracks? Yes, that's right. Those are not cracks in the infrastructure of the forum, but rather cracks of genuine discussion in the swampy, sewer-runoff cesspool that we pretend will get better as time goes on.

Satoshi's intention for the forum may be something to look at but it should not be the fundamental foundation of which all ideas of merit apply. Without a clash of ideas, a lack of utter consensus, any discourse, we are fueled ever deeper into the density-increasing box of shit that we have to splash around in just to see what the new contrived Update of the Year entails.

Conclusion

I shall walk around Canada so that I can spread this fresh air to your doorstep.
As they say, a butterfly's flapping wings in China may eventually become a hurricane in the United States.
Since I am much larger than a butterfly, I should be able to multiply the effect by several magnitudes.
Assuming we use the monarch butterfly's average weight of 500mg and the average human weight of 62kg, we have each of my very footsteps creating 62700000 hurricanes in China.

Thus, to create a hurricane I will only require 1.59489633 x 10-8 of a step: fifteen nanosteps.

However, since a hurricane must have a wind speed of at least 33m/s we may want to avoid anything more than a single nanostep so keep the speeds below 3 m/s. Moreover, given that the distance from China to the US is double that of Canada to Europe, I will have to proceed with the final conlusion:

I offer a collateral of a half nanostep towards Europe.
(contact me after-hours for when I taking full microsteps, decimating unprotected cities with my walks) Wink
1294  Other / Meta / Re: BitcoinTalk 10th Anniversary DASH!!! HTML5 Game on: November 28, 2019, 07:59:36 AM
Congrats to actmyname, Foxpup, and Hhampuz for TOP 3 at running the blockchain, respectively!
I expect three star cookies (or, perhaps, a three-star cookie?) at my door by tomorrow.

It's not just your timing; it feels like there's around 100-120ms of input lag, regardless of the input method used. Undecided I just assumed it was HTML5 dutifully fulfilling Flash's role of the absolute worst gaming platform.
IMO it's "balanced" with generous collision where hitting the side of the block can bounce you upward -- there is no delay to the jump in this case, afaict.
1295  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails on: November 26, 2019, 10:09:31 PM
Quote
Donations are given without return consideration.
>or you will get the 210€ back 30 June 2019.

Something's not right here...
Oh, and just saying that you don't make contracts will  not get you out of one. You are playing a game of semantics.
1296  Other / Meta / Re: BAN REQUEST for TMAN cause RACISM and excessive vulgar speaking on: November 26, 2019, 12:09:35 PM
Ok i see now racism is fight that the whole world is trying to win but not on bitcointalk.
Congrats and apologies for trying.
Which remarks are racist, by the way? "Pasta fucking idiot" is racist?

Fighting against racism is cool and all but anything that jeopardizes free speech can lead to echochambers. The forum's rules are extremely lax, especially considering scamming isn't even enough to warrant a ban.
1297  Other / Meta / Re: BAN REQUEST for TMAN cause RACISM and excessive vulgar speaking on: November 26, 2019, 12:02:01 PM
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
FAQ:

Quote
Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

A search for racism yields no results when it comes to the forum rules.
1298  Other / Meta / Re: 10th anniversary art contest badge voting on: November 26, 2019, 05:16:38 AM
Voted. Cheers to ZipReg for the game. Took a little bit Wink
1299  Economy / Reputation / Re: List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign on: November 26, 2019, 02:50:02 AM
HI, I just saw that I was banned because of : "not following all campaign rules".
To avoid to do the same mistake the next time, what does it mean ?
Thanks and have a nice day
It means you broke a rule. Next time, you can avoid that by not breaking rules.
1300  Economy / Reputation / Re: TMAN & Lauda on: November 23, 2019, 06:49:20 PM
on a Bitcoin forum. How many of the replies in this topic is neck deep in BTC, I wonder.
What were you expecting? Do you go on your horsefucker forum and expect to get replies from altcoin activists?
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