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1321  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 06:47:11 AM


Can you post the bets that set off the red flags?

It's weird they said Anonymity is important to us considering you submitted KYC.

Can you post all communications with them, with any sensitive info blacked out?  I'll quote them, or someone else can, to embed the images.

Yet another proof of their lie putting people's accounts into "withdraw only mode", but yet he is not allowed to withdraw.

It's not a lie.  I know several people who were KYCed because they thought they were from the United States.  All of their accounts were put into withdraw only mode until documents were approved.

The only complaint I know of where someone can't withdraw and isn't being investigated for somehow cheating is because he has less than the minimum to cash out.

It is weird this guy says he's allowed to gamble, maybe because his documents were approved I guess.
1322  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com retard support staff/ poor support SCAM on: January 31, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
I've personally looked into this. User could not provide a clear screenshot of some relevant and easy to find information, even when we've linked him to the exact URL needed to find the information. Therefore, we sadly had to decline his request.

By looking at this thread I bet it was a real treat for support to deal with this guy.
1323  Economy / Gambling / Re: If your games aren't provably fair, stop claiming they are. on: January 31, 2022, 06:37:56 PM
Locking this thread as it's turned into a signature spammers farm.

If anyone runs across some casino to add to the list or has something worthwhile to discuss, pm me.
1324  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 31, 2022, 06:30:13 PM
The problem is that Stake are offering more and more bonuses and Race prizes and funding Paid streamers and also sponsoring lots of sport celebrities, but we have to pay for that.

What a dumb take.  

They give out however much money in bonuses that they think will get players to gamble the most at their site.  If they thought giving you more money would make you deposit more, they'd give you more money. How they spend their money advertising has nothing to do with that.

And the money they spend on advertising they obviously think is a good investment.

Its like people see streamers getting good deals to stream and get jealous and then do some crazy mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that somehow they are a victim because the streamer is getting money, and they want some.

I think his point was that the more money a company spends on advertising, the more expensive its product is. In this case, it can somehow translate into the frequency of winnings at the casino. Of course, this is only speculation, as we will never be able to confirm it in numbers.

And my point is that doesn't make sense.  You advertise your product to attract new customers and get current customers to spend more money.  Assuming that they're decreasing the RTP to pay for advertising implies that decreasing the RTP would also increase their revenue - if that were the case why wouldn't they just decrease the RTP and make more money?  Remember - casinos set the RTP at whatever they think is most profitable.  If they thought they'd make the most money with a 50% RTP, the norm would be 50% RTP instead of mid-high 90s.  It makes no sense for an established casino that is planning on operating for years to come to use their Advertising budget as a factor in determining their RTP.

What's happening is players are trying to rationalize why they lost recently.  The reality is they lost because they simply didn't get lucky, then they see streamers getting lucrative deals from the casino that now has their money, and they feel some sort of entitlement to what the casino does with the money that used to be theirs.
1325  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 31, 2022, 04:28:02 PM
The problem is that Stake are offering more and more bonuses and Race prizes and funding Paid streamers and also sponsoring lots of sport celebrities, but we have to pay for that.

What a dumb take.  

They give out however much money in bonuses that they think will get players to gamble the most at their site.  If they thought giving you more money would make you deposit more, they'd give you more money. How they spend their money advertising has nothing to do with that.

And the money they spend on advertising they obviously think is a good investment.

Its like people see streamers getting good deals to stream and get jealous and then do some crazy mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that somehow they are a victim because the streamer is getting money, and they want some.
1326  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 31, 2022, 07:26:16 AM
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If you want to talk about the reputation of this account, please create a separate thread in the appropriate section and we can talk about it there.

Here, comment please about the scammers who try to consecuently cheat 1xbit:

The guy you paid in exchange for the account that you are now using to advertise a scam is a scammer.

The scam casino that's paying you to post on this forum, almost exclusively to defend them in threads where players come after they've been scammed and ignored by the scam casino you advertise, is run by scammers.

Most of the other members of the campaign have a history of promoting other well known scams like maulbit and adkinsbet.

You are the scammer.  Not the guys that jumped when 1xbit left a line open too long.  Do you see the difference?  
1327  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 30, 2022, 12:18:06 PM
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 305935409
1xbit not want to give me open my account because they blocked when i win something.
i dont know the reason why they refuse to give me my money on the account beted on regular and there is no reason they hold my account frozen.
This happening from june 27 and account is still blocked. i see so many posts about frozen account and there is no way to get back my funds to me? I really dont know who they block like that and hold the members money. Can someone help with my account to back my money i sent so many emails they not want even to back me email to me Sad i am so sad
i have there crypto in around 510 euro in total. What to do ?! Why they not want to give me money after i win regular and i have never withdraw any money from my account
This is something happening here, they blocking all accounts and never get you back?

There's been a lot going on in this thread lately, so you've probably missed post with this information:

Let us remind that if you have a complain - it can be answered in the reputation thread.

If you want to receive an answer to your complaint, you should write in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.0

Not really that much going on, just Shills repeating the same shill nonsense and then getting called out for it.

Look I called you out for the "go to the other thread" bullshit misdirect very recently. 

If you read the thread in Reputation section you will see how many issues have been positively resolved.

Here are the last 3 posts from 1xbit in that thread:


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The previous team wasn't stealing, and so do a new one. The only their mistake was to leave this forum, so the complaints were abandoned for 2 years. Should it make them legitimate?
We have contacted all the complaints creators here or through email, so there shouldn't be a single complaint that wasn't answered and explained.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

Cases are being solved one by one, but if you want to speed things up - please contact our support first: support-en@1x-bit.com

account ID 364472065
372494987.

Hello guys, your issues were forwarded to our security team, we'll post updates once we have any.

Three posts in four months.  Zero evidence of any actual cases being solved.


1328  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽  São Paulo FC ⚽ Prediction Contest (Sunday) on: January 30, 2022, 06:14:19 AM
Game 1:  23' SPFC 2-0
1329  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🏈 NFL Championship Weekend 🏈 (Sunday) on: January 30, 2022, 06:00:25 AM
Bengals @ Chiefs No, Under  20-17 Chiefs
49ers @ Rams No, Under  24-10 49ers
1330  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🎾 Australian Open 🎾 Prediction Contest (Finals) on: January 30, 2022, 05:55:42 AM
a) 11 b) 2:15
1331  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 30, 2022, 03:41:14 AM
Don't forget that 1xbit also let withdraw deposits:

Don't forget that just because they could've stolen more money from a player but chose to only steal some, doesn't make it ok.  

If the player loses their deposit, then 1xbit doesn't return anything.  If the player wins, then 1xbit steals the winnings and returns the deposit.  That's why they have one of the worst reputations in crypto gambling.

Erdogan is right, there have been a number of players in discussions who have won their bets in an extremely questionable way. I'm not saying they all cheated, but isn't it too coincidental that all the players complaining are only talking about table tennis and in some cases tennis too?
It seems there are some members that are really obsessed with targeting 1xbit without any reason.

If 1xbit left a line up too long for table tennis match, they should void those bets.  Only those bets.  A player betting on a line that was left up too long does not entitle the sportsbook to any of the players money, other than the winnings from that specific bet.  No other bet outcome is involved.  Voiding other bets because a table tennis line was left up too long is stealing.
1332  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 30, 2022, 01:10:10 AM
This thread does not concern me, but 1xbit (and at this point scammers who are trying to cheat 1xbit)

Really fucked up to call them the scammers when they are actually victims being scammed by 1xbit.  Eveven if they've done the worst that you've accused them of, 1xbit still is not entitled to their account balance.  1xbit has a long history of seizing players balances and then vaguely giving violation of terms as a reason.  It's a common strategy among scam gambling sites.  It's one of the main reasons they have one of the worst reputations in crypto gambling and anyone that accepts money to promote them, like you, will also have your reputation damaged.  

Of course you know all this and really don't care since 1xbit is the one paying you.
1333  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 29, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
The point is, this is an example of scammers still creating new accounts, on the 1xbit platform, and trying to cheat. When caught, they set up a Bitcointalk account and make a complaint. Then just continue to spam. You have a detailed example of this process above.

It's a completely anonymous Casino.  1xbit has no right to take funds from an anonymous account because they suspect someone they banned is behind it.

You can't even ban players or multi accounts from a fully anonymous casino.  You can close accounts, but you can't ban individuals, since it's anonymous.  Even if you suspect two accounts belong to the same individual, it doesn't matter, you're a fully anonymous casino.  In the end all that really matters at this point is they are continuing to take money from players without the players losing it by wagering.  No online book should have any sort of regular revenue from taking money from "cheaters", whether they're actually cheaters or , like most of 1xbit cases, they are simply being called cheaters by shills.


So you're saying you wanted to cheat 1xbit just to confirm that it was 1xbit that cheated you?  Grin Grin

This is exactly what 1xBit has done on this forum. They have created a bunch of new accounts to prove that they can continue to cheat and deceive in this community.

Old accounts: 1xBit.com, 1xBitMarketing, 1xbit.fr, 1xBit_com, 1xbit
New accounts: 1xbit_official, 1xBitManager, 1xBitCampaign, Manager1xBit

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As for the fact that you will spam this thread, I was sure of it from the very beginning when you wrote the first post from your new account

The biggest spammer in this thread is you. You are the only member (excluding 1xbit_official) who has more than 240 mostly worthless replies in this thread even though you don't represent casino in any official position.


Fyi, Erdogan bought his account from a scammer.  Or at least that's what he claims when asked about the scam accusations from years ago on it.
1334  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 29, 2022, 07:43:43 PM
I think there is no hope that 1xbit will pay you anything.

First honest thing you've said in a while.


Another example that despite the fact that subsequent accounts of cheaters are blocked, they do not stop trying to cheat 1xbit[/color][/b]

Blah blah blah, when an honest sportsbook gets cheated, they fix whatever exploit was used so it can't happen again.

At this point I'd bet that the majority of 1xbit revenue comes from seized funds... maybe not the majority, but definitely a significant piece.
1335  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 29, 2022, 04:04:43 PM
If you read the thread in Reputation section you will see how many issues have been positively resolved.

Here are the last 3 posts from 1xbit in that thread:


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The previous team wasn't stealing, and so do a new one. The only their mistake was to leave this forum, so the complaints were abandoned for 2 years. Should it make them legitimate?
We have contacted all the complaints creators here or through email, so there shouldn't be a single complaint that wasn't answered and explained.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

Cases are being solved one by one, but if you want to speed things up - please contact our support first: support-en@1x-bit.com

account ID 364472065
372494987.

Hello guys, your issues were forwarded to our security team, we'll post updates once we have any.

Three posts in four months.  Zero evidence of any actual cases being solved.

1336  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 29, 2022, 06:36:10 AM
Let us remind that if you have a complain - it can be answered in the reputation thread.

Oh that's real cute.  You posted a link back to another post in this thread, which is linking to another thread full of complaints that have been ignored for past 3 months.

1337  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why putin choose winter? on: January 29, 2022, 03:38:29 AM
It's easier to move military equipment when the ground is frozen.  That area gets super muddy in April/May and this happens:



US has failed leadership that will not do anything in the event of an invasion

The failed leadership was defeated in the last election.  And the problem wasn't them doing nothing, it was them turning our allies against us with obvious pro-Russia stances.  

Current leadership has already made it clear that if Putin goes into Ukraine the sanctions start approaching Cuba embargo level of intensity.  
1338  Economy / Reputation / Re: Abuse of rank in Bitcointalk from TwitchySeal and Sportsbet.io on: January 28, 2022, 10:47:12 AM
TwitchySeal    2022-01-23        Do not click any links this guy sends you. Shady affiliate spammer. (Delete)

I think my feedback is pretty valid and I hope nobody clicks any affiliate links in your unsolicited pms.  So no, I won't remove it - at least not now.  Knock off the bullshit and ask me again in 3 months and I'll reconsider.

Here's the thread that inspired me to leave the feedback, if anyone is curious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382115.0  
1339  Economy / Reputation / Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2022 Q1) on: January 28, 2022, 04:15:23 AM
3 Accounts Connected:

1 - Maasdamer
2 - scammed-by-nitro
3 - btcgrin-vic

I've long suspected scammed-by-nitro and btcgrin-vic were alt accounts, as you can see from the feedback I left btcgrin-vic almost a year ago:

btcgrin-vic    2021-02-26    Reference    Very likely alt account of 'scammed-by-nitro'. They have the same MO (see my feedback in ref), only source of merit, traded feedback for loan without any record, both seem to be from the same country, etc.

I would not recommend doing business with them or taking their views seriously.

Maasdamer behaves the same as the other two and I was not at all surprised when I found the account connected to the other two.

I am now extremely confident that btcgrin-vic and scammed-by-nitro are alt accounts that were used to scam this giveaway and think it's very likely that Maasdamer is as well.

Giveaway OP:

That's Right! And in Fact the First 5 to do it Now, wins 0.00015 BTC! Or 0.03 LTC

I'm Giving away 0.00005 BTC or LTC in equivalent value to every user that subscribes to Bit Boss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l53TtT3uRTQ
Post "I'm Subscribed" And reply with your Litecoin or Bitcoin address.

Also I'll randomly be giving out $5-$20 worth of Crypto to random subscribers in this thread!

And don't forget to follow: https://twitter.com/BitBoss20 -I'll be giving away prizes on twitter as well!

Maasdamer responded (now deleted) with an LTC address [link].  He was also active throughout the thread playing a troll roll for 11 posts.  (note: the LTC address he posted never received any LTC, but he confirmed in the thread that he did.  Maybe the scraper missed an edit somewhere, I don't know)

The next day btcgrin-vic posted (now deleted) the btc address 12JLSCFtJZjLfpmsJ8dxnxkitbjtEmVYni [link].
Two days later scammed-by-nitro posted the btc address 1LocbteDXfzT8rbqhBC4sUTXQMDnNz8CX4 [link].

About a week later, BTC0.00005 were sent to 28 different btc address, including the two mentioned above. TXID: a49979c71e9e98722a66adcf9e5597edf38251103a2e1f602f35564d360a17a6

A few days after that, those same two addresses were revealed as being part of the same wallet by sending their balance of BTC0.00005 each to 3MY5j8k6e1262AUePxw6PVtDBZ1jRvZUds.  (TXID:
c3c115f8d96cada25b65ba9ff0dd8040a17982cd686ee6bc74b3457aab039c95, wallet ID: ab4827feb4 )  (note: there was a third address that also sent the same amount in the same tx: 1EcSFuHusX3EA2ajfRk5KRPYDCLVUDjgcp . I can't find any link to this address.  It could've been used on twitter or something, I don't know).

So this links pretty conclusively btcgrin-vic and scammed-by-nitro.  The receiving address, 3MY5j8k6e1262AUePxw6PVtDBZ1jRvZUds, was used a few weeks before the giveaway in a now deleted post by Maasdamer to apply for a loan from DarkStar_ (who wisely declined).




Edit: Something worth mentioning -

Went back to look at the pms from btcgrin-vic last March after I left the feedback linking that account to scammed-by-nitro, they denied it over a couple pms, asked me to remove feedback, sent me screen shots of the pms between the two accounts, and the final one out of the blue simply said "so you are a pedophile?"  That was the entire pm.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago, I called out Maasdamer for basically making stuff up in order to make a Casino look bad. In response (I assume it was in response) he sent me two pms:

1 - "Never quote me again u shameless pedo cunt."

2 - "Lets find out where you live you little pedo cunt."

I didn't respond to either message, but did leave him negative feedback that mentioned them as well as his behavior in the thread that led to the incident.

He retaliated with the following feedback:
Maasdamer    2021-12-13        Offered me little children for a "good price" . Pedophile that should be arrested.





1340  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 27, 2022, 09:03:18 PM
Perhaps you should get the facts straight. Have you ever forgotten how many players have tried to cheat at table tennis and tennis? Especially with table tennis. Accusation after accusation came out of nowhere, and further questions revealed that the players in question were using a camera to cheat, they already knew which players had won a point, and then bet on that.
They were using  a camera...
You mean they were watching the live stream? lol

Watching a match you bet on isn't cheating.

Betting on a line that a sportsbook left up too long isn't cheating.

Reminder: the last sports book you shilled for disappeared over night and stole everyone's money.  You knew Adkins bet was scamming the way 1xbet is now before they eventually exit scammed and didn't give a shit.  This is no different.
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