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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 18, 2016, 06:13:20 AM
Im from Asia and Asian basketball are way different from those White & Black people and I accept the fact. They have Mozgov why do they need to still get another bigman. IMO whats Mozgov need is more playing time.
Mozgov could be fun to watch but accordingly he suffers from injury and they need another big man to replace him while he is sideline. Lakers have already another big man that could step up but what I want to witness in this season is the combo for clarkson and russelle as I am pretty sure they will explode since kobe is out.
1362  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 18, 2016, 06:07:52 AM
There's no such thing as risk-free, effortless passive income.

You either need to work for it, or take some risks.

and even if there was something like that, why would people post it here?

Even if people don't post here, everyone knows how to get a steady income, if we don't talk about bitcoin then the best way is to have full time job where your income is fixed so based on that you can plan your expenses.
And not only working as you can also earn with your side job using bitcoin, in working in day job there are things that should be considered like choosing a stable company in order for you to have a steady income and you will be entitled to get the best benefits once the company also progresses.
1363  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: August 18, 2016, 05:54:08 AM
i think the kids should not be involve in the bitcoin industry. they should focus first on their studies because they will have a brighter future if they will earn a degree and being involve in bitcoin will only ruin their studies. their parents is the one who should to provide what they need for their daily living Cheesy
You are definitely right, kids should be kids and they should only focus in studies and nothing more. Kids cannot easily understand bitcoin as it is money in the new generation, as much as possible kids should not be teach about how to earn money as they can still learn that when they mature at the right time. They should not be destructed.
1364  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: August 18, 2016, 05:33:33 AM
yes it is worthful beacuse i am.earnung through btc by holding for lomg time and then sell after increae price .its a better way to earn money instead of real money .
Well profits from investing through fiat is mot that large and it takes a long time. So better invest in bitcoin then take the profit and keep it. It will be faster that way plus you are not risking much money. ROI can be taken back faster.

Investing in bitcoin is really worth it at all but you don't just invest your fiat money there you need to learn and study about it first.

Because not all the people here are experienced with bitcoin and tendency if the newbies are reading that people are going to say that invest in bitcoin.

But for me, bitcoin is not just all about investment the service it gives to the users is making it worth.
Investing in bitcoin is overall profitable when you are doing a long term investment. Adopters are increasing and it will result to increase of demand which would make the price increase also, in the future if the adoption will continue the price will also continue to increase so it is favorable on the investor in the long run.
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 18, 2016, 05:23:59 AM
I would not play, being poor or being rich. But each has the right to make their choices.
Contrary to what many believes, most of the gamblers are actually rich people since they have so much to
lose and they do not really mind what the surprises that gambling yet to give them.
If I were rich, I may still gamble, just for the fun out of it. Of course, only small bets so that I can play as many as I possibly can within minimum losses in the case of only negatives.
A gamble everything, and rich and poor. One just nowhere to put the money and the other, or want a quick profit, or are addicted to drugs like. Gambling is not child's play toy. This is serious stuff for adults.
gambling is designed for adults. This game requires mental strength. with mental nice we could win the game easily. we can be rich because of gambling.


So people who are weak with mental strength are the ones who are losing their own properties for selling it because they are losing in gambling.

There are a lot of rich people who becomes unfortunate for being an addicted gambler and they can't help to control themselves.

I hope that it is going to be a good lesson for all of us.
Definitely right, gambling is not for the people who are weak in decision making. It is necessary that you have a full self control in your gambling session so you will be able to manage yourself when you are in a situation that you are already losing and your loses will be limit.
1366  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: August 18, 2016, 05:14:11 AM
I would have said Bitfinex in the past, but recent events have made me back down from even considering that.  Given the high risk of P2P loans, I don't think there is really a good way to invest them.  Just buy some coins and invest using fiat.  BTC is enough of an investment in itself without adding another party into it.

Getting more scary mow thanks to Bitfinex. People's trust from online wallets are now broken. Now, I would rather keep the profit from my invested bitcoin in fiat than be at a high risk.
This is a wake up call for the exchange sites to strengthen their security as they are losing some clients if that will happen again, we need also to be very vigilant with our money as that is important for us, just learn how to minimize the risk and do not just trust in one exchange site.
1367  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: August 18, 2016, 05:09:42 AM
The best investment depends on the technology, but also the time when you buy it.
Try to have knowledge about it before the price jumps.
Exactly, every investor should have carefully study before he will jump in to invest in any investment opportunity, the only way to be a successful investor is when we are giving importance on our investment and our basis should not only be base on other people's opinion, we should also do our job as that is our money at risk.
1368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 17, 2016, 09:36:30 AM
I prefer to invest. investment is much safer than playing gambling. investing one of which is by trading. I trade altcoin to obtain greater profits.
trading risk is quite small.


Well maybe you are an expert in trading and that's why you are saying that risk is quite small, because from my experience trading is absolutely the same thing as gambling, which means you lose all you have eventually.

It requires knowledge to trade. If you have no knowledge on what you are trading for then it is what you have say, it is like gambling and you are throwing your money away to the others. You need to be more knowledge in order to take money from people pocket.

And  a lot of experience. It is hard to make trading profitable if you do not have enough experience. Sometime you easily crumble on pressure when your trade is going the wrong way. The only way to overcome this is to have plenty of experience and a nerve of steel.

It is better if you are going to have pressure in trading rather to be pressured with gambling. But if you are really a gambler and a trader then you are not going to choose only one. Then you just need to manage your money and set your priority first if you are going to put first trading or investing rather than gambling.
yes to me investment or trading should be the first prosperity because gambling is too risky as compare to trading or investment, i my self like gambling and a good gambler but most of my assets are invested in bitcoin, i am holding bitcoin for the price increase and know that at the end it will give me a good profit.
Gambling is a very stressful job as they say, you will always be in thrill and when you cannot control emotion you might lose your health in gambling although you are just setting in front of your computer. Trading on the other hand is just a like gambling but it can be learn compared to gambling itself.
1369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 17, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
Lakers looking to sign Chinese legend.
Yi Jianlian making his back to the NBA. Lakers need a beast to throw the ball to down low now that Mozgod is hurt  Grin


I see how he play. Compare to the other center, he is not a threat. I dont think it give them an impact. He played great at CBA. But i think NBA is a different level compare to CBA. A lot of centers now are very strong and can shoot at three point area. Also he is not that young compare to other younger and stronger centers. I dont think he can compete with them.
I hope lakers would not get this man if they still have other options, I am pretty sure there are great players in the D league who are just waiting to step up in big stage, remember clarkson when he was given a chance to play, he steppe up because he wants to prove something and wants to be a good player in the NBA.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 17, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
There is no safer way in gambling whether it is sports betting or casino gambling. I saw some people consider gambling on sports events less risky and more chances but I will do agree on this. Gambling is based on luck and chances where players are looser most of the time in every type of gambling.
I only know one safe method and that is just to leave gambling. yes. if you want to be safe and don't want to loose just don't play gamble. it is that simple. if you play gamble then don't expect to be safe and don't loose, gamblers should prefer them selves to looses.
Safe does not mean that you do not lose money in gambling, gambling is fun to play so you do not quit it unless you are not enjoying it. If you are after of the entertainment you can get in gambling then I can say that minimizing your loses is the safest way and to make it you need to control your self.
1371  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: August 17, 2016, 09:17:34 AM
i do not spend my bitcoin recently because its good time to hold bitcoin and its really increase its price too much faster and i hope we can get good profit from bitcoin in future .
With the current price, it is not increasing but there is not much to panic because the price will eventually increase and we have seen that many times already. It is always the trend with bitcoin that every time there is a fall back of price, the next thing to happen is a price pump.
1372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 17, 2016, 09:11:01 AM
If you have more than enough money, i don't think you will risk big amounts by gambling, may be rich people gamble just for fun with small amounts.

Depends on the rich people, some rich people like to play big but some others do not like it. If there is no rich people play big amount, so who are the one who wagered such a big amount in single bet on some gambling sites? They must be rich people, poor will not able to bet big.
Thats true, it is really depend on a rich gambler, some rich people doesnt care of what they lose, but some rich people count of what they loses cause they really care about money and they value most of it.

If I'm going to be a rich person, I'm not going to gamble anymore because it is going to give me confidence to keep on gambling and make lose all my money. Just like these days that when you have small amount of money you don't care about it even you are going to win or lose that is going to be nothing for you.
Most of the time your decision will change when you are already in the situation. When you are a gambler when you are still poor, there is a big possibility that you will gamble more when you become rich as you have all the means to do it and as long as you are playing for fun the risk is just low.
1373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 17, 2016, 09:04:45 AM
for me gambling never fix my life im getting addicted because of bitcoin and i want to quit but i am always chasing my lose and i want to bring my lose back thats why im always get greedy because i chase my lose hopefuly that i can move on and start another day to play gambling hoping that one day luck is on beside me <3

Well for sure many people did have the same experience as yours. And for me, I can proved it to myself that gambling is not really going to make my life good and if I'm going to be addicted to it, it is just going to wreck my life. So, if you can't help yourself it is going to be better if you are just going to treat it as a form of entertainment or pass time.
i am sure gambling are wrecked almost everyone lives instead fix it ,
noone can beat a house edge and casino bankroll ,
if you can create a survey about people that have fixed their life around you i will bet there only few people think their life fixed because gambling ,
and get back in the next month/year to ask them again about this , i am sure they will say it is wrecked their life now.

It's funny how you are saying gambling is bad and how it can wreck your life, but still wears a signature-ad of a gambling site. Well that's how it works for you so so just realize some things that needs to be in the right place.
you can see advertisement about cigrate they are promoting their brand but at the end they also explain the reality that smoking kills, so if he is promoting the betting side no doubt but he is also explaining the reality, that if you are going to exceed your limit of gambling then it will really wreck your life.
Actually what we are promoting here is the responsible gambling, everyone has the right to gamble as long as he can manage himself because gambling is an entertainment and everyone is entitled to be happy, if you see gambling the other way around then that is bad for you.
1374  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: August 17, 2016, 08:59:00 AM
With the current move on btc i think its hard to invest we may see the price rise up again or go down
That's the inherent risks in bitcoin. the price will be ups and downs very quickly. if you can not take advantage of opportunities as possible and do not want to be patient. maybe will you get only loss?
Losing is normal if you are unlucky or you did not study the movement of bitcoins, daily traders are making money with bitcoins even with a little price movement because they have studied the trend and they have a lot of focus on their trading job.
yeah i think the defeat or loss is a natural part of the trade. but when you go down the most appropriate price in the do is stay quiet and you can do calculations what steps are you going to do? is it want to buy more or waiting or sell your bitcoin?

Profit and loss will always be a part of trading, but with good skills and knowledge you can always minimize that risks, and if you believe in higher risks higher returns formula then you should go with altcoin trading.
I believe in altcoins is more like a gamble, I like to focus in altcoin trading because majority of the coins there has a bigger fluctuation and some of them can easily be predicted, I actually have a decent income last week but this time I lose a bit with LIR investment, hope it will go up again as the developers has announce today to solve the issue.

I think you should switch you investment from LIR to ETC as it is predicted that price of ETC will boost in next week so if you invest in it at a moment then you can make good profits in quick time.

I am still thinking about this ETC. Looking at charts yes it is at the right moment but I still have this little doubt. So I might be getting more knowledge out of it. I hope I will not be late when making the decision.
I think if you do not have the skills in the trade altcoin better avoid that method. because no one can be sure that prices will rise for ETC or other cryptocurrency. so it is not necessarily the price will rise in the next week. so you have to be careful in doing trade



If you will never take a chance then how will you make profits? Its all about taking risks and taking right decision at the right time and that will make a difference in your earnings and profits.
In investing, timing is the very important to remember. For example, when you are investing in bitcoin you need to know the right timing to buy and sell it for you to make money and to be successful in the long run. And of course there should be a plan and it should be written so it would be easy for your to follow.
1375  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 17, 2016, 08:55:34 AM
I usually buy bitcoins when i don't have any bitcoins left in my wallet and sometimes when i want something online, i'm using bitcoin as the payment for the transaction.

Yup I am earning and buying  coins so that I can send money to my family whenever I want, as it  involves very less fees and transactions are available 24/7.
It's true, that is the benefits in having bitcoin in your wallet as anytime you want to spend it you can transact anytime, as long as you have the internet everything is possible. Spending is really good but we also need to limit our spending to focus and prioritize more on savings for future investments.
1376  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 17, 2016, 08:49:36 AM
yes if we do not have much time to collect bitcoin I think the best way is to invest. so we have a revenue of 'small and safe' from 'big and risky'. you will get steady income if you invest at bitcoin. buying 100bitcoin withdraw 0.1btc permonth.

is this steady income in my opinion Roll Eyes

But the problem is not all investment will provide you a consistent profit, if that is possible then we are all getting rich in here and talking about the given investment of 100 BTC, that is a huge amount of money, maybe you can start a small gambling sites already.
I think if you want to get a steady income and substantial income from investments. you need a large capital. because the investment site like cloudmining.
needs capital at least 1-5 BTC. so that you will be earning large daily and steady


Even if you have  a huge amount of bitcoins  i wouldnt suggest that you should not  invest on those cloudmining sites because  they are just scam and such a waste of money you couldnt guarantee  the everyday profits for a long time because  cloudmining sites  doesnt last for so long.
It is still better you have your own mining site if you will be able for the necessary financials to start a mining business, investing online in mining site could not be profitable with you as you have no assurance the credibility of the operators.

Yes and it will be an risky business as we don't know how long that site will operate and may be in future it might disappear with your investments.
However not everyone can start their own mining business as that entails money, some as just a small investor who just want to invest their money and let the business manage their money for them, I have tried a lot of investment but in overall it was not a profit, until I find a better way is to invest in gambling sites.
1377  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 17, 2016, 08:44:56 AM
i think going full time on bitcoin is good way to rich, some people who earning bitcoin in first time now have more money because in first time we can earning 0.02btc just from faucet


It is not good because there is no single signature campaign who will allow you to post more than 100 posts per week and if you are doing trading then price of coin will decrease as well. And if you are doing it as a part time you will earn that money as bonus.
Yobit allows you to do that as long as you are not spamming, it is a hard work actually but if you are enjoying doing it you will not notice the time consumed. Take it from me, but I don't really my expense in my earnings because I have a day job to take care of that.

The fact is yobit have now stopped accepting new participants so that option is close and I don't see many active campaigns at a moment from where you can start earning bitcoins.
Maybe you call those people who are already on board in yobit before they stop accepting new entrants as they can make good profit if they are just very hardworking in posting daily. I am also happy with my current signature and to be honest I love to promote gambling site as an a gambler myself.
1378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 17, 2016, 08:42:49 AM
For those who do not have any knowledge about gambling, I will say it is wrong for them to gamble as they are not able to earn back their invested money into gambling, they will lose all of their money sooner.

And you're earning profits with your deposited sums in gambling, or what? It's loss most of the time. Gambling isn't wrong even if it's the first time you're playing. The way we're playing it is wrong.
Absolutely true, it is only the players who are making it wrong. Gambling is a wonderful way to have fun and to entertain yourself to relieve some stress. That depends on how you handle gambling, if you aim for money then you need to be responsible to accept the result without blaming gambling.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 16, 2016, 07:31:06 AM
Gambling in a smart way means that you know how to prevent yourself from getting losses. So one of the smart way is to avoid gambling as a lot of the games are usually put you in a disadvantage. So why play with disadvantage.
I think we cannot prevent loses because that is just a norms in gambling, losing and winning are both possible to be experience by every gambler. The smartest way is to know your goal in gambling and do not mix having fun and aiming for money because the outcome is never good.
1380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 16, 2016, 07:26:33 AM
It is not easy to stay away from gambling if you are an addict
but I agree some advice here to block the gambling site in your browser or find a new hobby in your real life.

Blocking the website in your browser will not help you but blocking it someone else from you with a password you don't know may help this way. Addiction is one of the worst parts of gambling and if you hit you the only way to get out of it is to talk with your family or seek real help from the doctors. I am not the right person to tell you this as I had or still have some kind of addiction to online slots looking to win the jackpot but gambling should be considered a fun activity and not something to make you money as it will not.
Just stay away or quit complete when gambling does not bring any positive results in your life, you need to apply the best method not just disabling your internet so you will not gamble anymore, you should keep your self away from any things related to gambling so you will be successful in changing your life.
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