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1361  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Positive thoughts and attitude towards Bitcoin. on: July 10, 2023, 05:49:01 PM
You are right that in investing, the risk is there. But those that don't want to take risk, they're free to just watch the market and do nothing but definitely, there's also no gain that's gonna happen to them. We don't want to guarantee people that there's a certain profit in Bitcoin if they invest now because it's gonna be looking a ponzi scheme if someone promises that. But we all know the drill, based on our experiences and with the span of time that we've been here, we're all gonna agree that it's worth it and still early for those investors that are in half thinking whether they should buy or not. And in OPs case, this is a good approach that he's got a positive mentality towards Bitcoin because he's invested in and he knew what he decided to.
1362  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why Crypto may go wrong for some people on: July 10, 2023, 11:10:38 AM
A friend of mine recently complain to me about how he loses thousands of dollars to crypto after invest in a token. He now said he is quiting crypto and now comparing crypto investing to that of gambling.

Most people hear about crypto and wish to invest in it without the knowledge of how crypto works. It is a good practice for one to learn the do and don't of whatsoever you want to put your money in. Why dealing with crypto as if you are gambling? You need to learn to earn with crypto. You gamble with crypto when you invest without adequate research and knowledge of what token/coin you are investing on.

CONCLUSION
Crypto isn't for lazy people. It involves research and continuous learning. It may look bored if money isn't made in the first few months but will definitely make you smile after months of endurance.
Your friend has to understand that every investment is like a gamble. You'll have no idea how it's going to perform and that's why it's best to stick to the best in the market. I'll take a guess that he has invested to shitcoins and meme coins and that's why he's like cursing the market now because it didn't do any good to him. Tell your conclusion to your friend so that he'll realize that he's not just going to sway wherever the crowd is going and just like with the craze of meme coins, he won't be the one to ride the hype because it's proven that they don't last long.
1363  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOW TO AVOID DOUBLE POSTING (CLOUDFARE ISSUE) on: July 09, 2023, 10:25:22 PM
When this message appears , samply go back to posting page and refresh your page. you will see that your post already posted despite of this error. it's mean there no need to post again. If anything wrong happen and your reply not posted then samply reply again by just pasting you copied in above step.
Yeah, this solves the problem. Don't double post and no need to repost it once you've sent or posted already. Good thing that before seeing this thread, I've done my experiment on it and refresh the page to check if everything is posted and all good with that.

I don't think I'm having this kind of experience, though, because mine is not displaying the cloud flare error (an error occurred), but it's just something that keeps asking me to verify the cloud flare security, and after verifying, it still takes me back to the same message I'm trying to send.
Everyone is experiencing this and it's not the forum's problem but all about cloudflare having its own issue globally. Thanks to SG.

It is world wide issue with Cloudflare, not only issue on Bitcointalk.

Coinbase.com has same issue today
https://coinbase.com/

Cloudflare status https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
1364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What term to use? Halving or Halvening? Term history on: July 09, 2023, 08:24:25 PM
Actually, there's another one that I've read that describes what shall happen next year and that's, "halfing".
Honestly, all of them works and have the same meaning so whatever you prefer, we're all agreeing of what's being describe. Whether it is halving, halvening or even halfing. It's understandable of what a person is talking about.

Agreed, There’s no right term to use since we are free to use any term as long as it describes same thought which others can understand. This is same with hodling and other slang term on crypto. I think most important thing is that we understand what’s gonna happened after halving/halvening/halfing/halfckening.

But Halving is the most popular term to use here since I experience 2 halving during 2016 and 2020. Halvening is just use on the social media lately.
Yep, everyone settles with the term halving as it's easier to say and just two syllables.

~snip
It's just all about the terminology mate and not about what's gonna be the effect of halving and how much everyone can make from it. Everyone knows what's the effect of it and why we should buy Bitcoin but the topic and this thread is just plainly all about the terms that might have not been known to others that there are also other terms being used.
1365  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you prefer to own a luxury watch or invest in bitcoin or other assets? on: July 09, 2023, 06:31:43 PM
I'll have my priorities in the list in particular order.
1. Bitcoin
2. Real estate
3. Stocks
4. Luxury watches
5. Gold
With the last which is digital assets, what do you mean by this, NFTs? We've got already the stocks, maybe REITs are one of it. Aside from that, artworks as well, collectible cards (NBA, Pokemon, etc.).

My priorities are a little bit different:
1. bitcoin
2. bitcoin
3. bitcoin
4. bitcoin
5. cash

That's all I need in life to be honest. Some bitcoin and some cash to spend when bitcoin is in a bear market or when the seller doesn't want to accept bitcoin.
I don't care about jewelry at all, as I don't wear any and my wife doesn't like it either. She doesn't even wear our wedding ring as it's impractical and only collects new scratches every day.
I have a watch but it's a sports watch because all I really need in a watch is that it shows time in situations where I can't use a phone and is water/shock proof. I'm a practical person.
That's a good reason why you don't need other assets. I'm just trying to diversify with what I think is good for my risk appetite and for someone who doesn't have a lot of Bitcoin, that's all I am thinking if ever someday my Bitcoin investment goes that much. This indicates that everyone has got priorities and they come in different forms and explanations as to why we need it and why we want to have it. But at the end of it, we've got all similarities and that will not change and it's all about uniting in holding bitcoin.
1366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What term to use? Halving or Halvening? Term history on: July 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Actually, there's another one that I've read that describes what shall happen next year and that's, "halfing".
Honestly, all of them works and have the same meaning so whatever you prefer, we're all agreeing of what's being describe. Whether it is halving, halvening or even halfing. It's understandable of what a person is talking about. Formal, informal and maybe soon there will be another term that will be built up having the same meaning, who knows.  Tongue
We're all free to use any of those terms.
1367  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to understood our world economy here is the example on: July 08, 2023, 10:20:02 PM
We just did saw the recession and still experiencing it at some point or actually we do because of the higher inflation rate that's coming out. While most of the countries now are recovering, there are the others that just can't and have been a sinking ship ever since this war and pandemic has started. I don't really care about these CBDCs because they're just like cash that has been migrated to digital and there's no difference at all from the credit cards that the banks are providing for people to have. There's more to this economy and it's not just from this market alone.
1368  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you prefer to own a luxury watch or invest in bitcoin or other assets? on: July 08, 2023, 02:08:33 PM
Luxury watches at the top end of the market can be considered as an alternative form of investment. While I don't possess extensive knowledge about watches, my understanding from available information suggests that reselling them can yield a substantial profit. The return on investment for luxury watches tends to be quite satisfactory. Prominent examples of such watches include Patek Philippe, Rolex, and Audemars Piguet, some of which have a waitlist spanning two years.
This is one of my plans after making a profit with Bitcoin. I'm not knowledgeable with it and that's why I am starting to research about its market and aside from having an interest on it, I'd like to give it to my pops and at the same time he'll have his investment as well.

Most of these watches tend to appreciate in value.
And more to appreciate if you have the limited edition.

However, the worth attributed to an item is typically influenced by its demand and supply. While I believe that owning one or two high-end watches, provided they are well-maintained, may outperform stocks, gold, and real estate, it's worth noting that their appeal may diminish over time. This is because future generations are increasingly gravitating towards other interests, such as bitcoin and other emerging trends. If given the choice, would you prefer to own a luxury watch or invest in bitcoin, digital assets, gold, stocks, or real estate?
I'll have my priorities in the list in particular order.
1. Bitcoin
2. Real estate
3. Stocks
4. Luxury watches
5. Gold
With the last which is digital assets, what do you mean by this, NFTs? We've got already the stocks, maybe REITs are one of it. Aside from that, artworks as well, collectible cards (NBA, Pokemon, etc.).
1369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin experience a more price increase during the halving? on: July 08, 2023, 11:36:03 AM
The explanation you've made is right. It's simple as that, the more Bitcoin being held by individuals together with the institutions. That means that there's lesser in the circulation and that makes bitcoin more scarce. I do remember IIRC last bull run, there's even the limitation on how much everyone can buy Bitcoin off exchanges. And that's possible to happen again when the demand has increased, the law of supply and demand has always been applied on this market.
1370  Other / Off-topic / Re: P2P E-mail [Decentralization of email services] on: July 08, 2023, 09:19:54 AM
IMHO, I don't see why there's an essence of being decentralized in email services. It all ends up that there will always be the server to handle all of those messages and things that's inside an emailing service. Much better to keep it as is and it's gonna complicate the users.
So from there, there's still central authority that will handle all of these emails and will be kept and stored into a database where the developers gonna use it and for sure they'll still have access on it. That defeats the thought of it being decentralized.
1371  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: stake.com is a scam , the use sensors to manipulate the bets. nothing fair on: July 08, 2023, 07:37:46 AM
You have made other threads accusing that they're a scam. Refer to the links below;
You have also posted on stake's thread and then stunna has answered you. I think that he won't get on this thread with this another thread you've made.

I am not technical on this one but I've found an article that has the same thing about this sensor: Why are websites requesting access to motion sensors... on my desktop?
A lot of interesting information I've read down there on the comment section and as well as the article itself.
1372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Factors that make Bitcoin determine price of other cryptocurrencies on: July 08, 2023, 06:10:14 AM
Since I am not very familiar with bitcoin and I fell behind for a spell since I was too busy with school, I am making an effort to absorb what I learned while studying it.

I am aware that the value of other coins is affected by the price of bitcoin, which is the first and most well-known cryptocurrency. How and why various cryptocurrencies respond to variations in the price of bitcoin baffles me. 
I need clarification on this, kindly.
The pair on most exchanges is with Bitcoin and to make it easier to understand is like the US dollars being the base and pair with other local currencies through their foreign exchanges. Even there are decentralized exchanges that don't have bitcoin on its pair because they're based with ERC20, BEP20/BSC and other altcoin networks, still bitcoin plays a part with those. Most traders are putting the demand into bitcoin whenever they made a profit from other altcoins. So, rinse and repeat and that's it!
1373  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Aptos Foundation Twitter Account Hacked on: July 08, 2023, 01:04:33 AM
I remember when celebrities Twitter accounts were hacked and the boy that hacked it made a direction on what people must do and where they should deposit their investments. But all of it was a scam and many have been a victim of it. And that can be the same whenever an official Twitter account of a project gets hacked. That was one of the craziest hacks ever and from there, it had made another BS thought from no coiners that crypto is just all scam. I do hope that people won't be scammed by that account.
1374  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Huobi.com Suspending Withdrawal: Funds Held Hostage due to Monero Transaction on: July 07, 2023, 11:40:21 PM
Yeah they actually did. They said I used I quote "ANONYMOUS COIN". War on privacy is real sadly.
I don't understand why they're like this. They could have just delist the main reason of why you've been suspended so that it won't be a problem to most of their customers. Since many exchanges have been complying to their government's rule about these anonymous coins, their main option is to just remove it from their platform. It's sort of funny that the main reason is about your monero transaction and yet, it's on their platform and I doubt it that they'll even be more specific soon if it's come to this transactions.
1375  Other / Off-topic / Re: how to get mod jobs on any crypto platforms on: July 07, 2023, 07:23:35 PM
You just need to apply when you see a company is hiring for those. You have to try it for yourself to see if you're going to be qualified or not.
The last say is still in the company's hiring process and it's not all the time the experience that you have but with the attitude that you'll show them during the interview. But it is better to have a background study and be aware of these positions before you apply so at least, you're still ready for any question related to it. Usually, these companies aren't too difficult to with these hirings especially they're urgently needed.
1376  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin whales took high risks, while studying price movement in the past on: July 07, 2023, 01:47:22 PM
This is really a big leap of faith. It's like you're the only one walking in the darkness without knowing when you'll see the light. I think we're also like him but we're not as big as him of course. Buying bitcoin certain is a risk and that decision can be influenced by the people that surrounds you. Just like him, there were for sure people that have discouraged him that it's a crazy decision. And like us, we're probably in the same situation where even our family don't believe us with what we've discovered and that's bitcoin. That's it, this is another encouragement for those that are thinking back forward whether they should buy or not. But the key thing here is still all about research and knowing what you're about to buy.
1377  Economy / Exchanges / Re: OKX frozen my account and required me to KYC with a less than $1,000 deposit on: July 06, 2023, 11:55:42 PM
I have never used them but it seems that this type of limit is going to be the replacement for those that don't really want to comply for KYC. This lifetime thing as a limit is crazy. In the end if you're a religious user of theirs, you'll eventually get to hit that limit and you have no option if you still got funds there but to comply. And based from the other posts about their behavior about changing terms unnoticingly, that's truly a red flag and inconvenience for most users.
1378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Less than 300 days left to halving - price predictions for The Day? on: July 06, 2023, 10:52:48 PM
On the actual day of halving, I wouldn't expect that much. It takes time until the pattern for the bull run is built during that time.

My reference is the last halving and it's by far the best price After halving, the price will only increase after the halving, not on the halving day we may even set a new record this next halving because so far we are getting a lot of good news and less FUDS and if this continues we have new people coming and the next halving is the big attraction for them,
I think that we're getting the pattern right. Each halving is becoming better than the past and hopefully, this one is going to be better than the last one. With that, maybe this is going to be the time that we'll see a six digit bitcoin and that will be the next support that we're all gonna be. FUD or anything that will scare the people in the market are going to be there but, they won't be as strong as the bull run for bitcoin.

I find it easier to convince people to invest before the halving because of the anticipated price increase, which history proved to be correct.
I wouldn't convince people, I'll just give them the data and history of it and let them decide.
1379  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: General Crypto on: July 06, 2023, 09:48:27 PM
All systems are prone to being hacked if they don't improve their security and this is the main reason why we see maintenances and updates being done. Because the hackers are also able to follow such security measures and the only way to give them some hard time is to update systems and security updates. Also, the users part is also playing the most crucial part, let's say a platform has the strongest security but the user isn't aware on how to take care of his keys and prone to being a victim of phishing. That's also a factor why someone gets hacked and not the platform itself.
1380  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as an opportunity for the unbanked. on: July 06, 2023, 02:57:18 PM
In the world today, many people prefer to keep their money in their house save because of the perceived fraud by our traditional banking system that has decided to rip the populace off their hard-earned money without remorse, through different unexplainable charges, this has changed the mindset of the un-banked because of the complaints coming from the individuals involved in that process, this individual, both the ones that are already banked and the unbanked are looking for alternative other alternative means that they will use to safeguard their wealth.
So true, those that are aware of the global news and events. This is one to be worried about. Like those people in Lebanon that they're not even allowed to withdraw their money on the banks there as per the instruction on them because they might be out of money too soon. While looking at the situation of the people there because I've just watched a video of someone who forcefully took her money from the bank where it is deposited, she had to scare them out.

Financial institutions put up these outrageous charges and unacceptable taxing methods and lend individual money to other people without their consent and unknowingly to them, in return give them interest below what is expected yearly, taking back the interest through taxation and so making their money always depreciate in their bank account.
Well, this is the business model of the banks. That's like their bloodline and how they're able to survive with this business. Once you have deposited your money on them, that's already the consent from the depositors.

I want to categorically tell this set of people that Bitcoin is the way forward for you, bitcoin works for everyone, and the system was designed in a way that every interested person can participate.
Bitcoin allows you to be your bank and be in charge of your money with no interference from anyone. Participation is dependent on your interest, not your identity, that's to say that everyone can be involved without their identity known. Note that blockchain technology guarantees your Bitcoin security, so don't be afraid just give it a trial but with a little money I believe you won't regret it.
All that you've said are true. But we can't force people to like Bitcoin, they'll voluntary like it soon when they see the value of it goes up again and once we're back in the bull run. With all of those technicalities and everything, they wouldn't mind about it but only about its worth and value.
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