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1381  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 17, 2022, 12:56:55 AM
You said the issue was resolved back in October.  How do you expect anyone to decide whether to believe you were being honest then, now or not at all?  

Last week you made a thread titled "STAKE AND SCAM RADAR SCAMMING AS USUAL $2500 owed!"

This week you made another one titled "MUST SEE STAKE AND BETRADAR SCAMMIMG 4 MONTHS TO INVESTIGATE BUNCH OF COWARD"

Now you're saying "****STAKE IS DEFINITELY THE BEST CASINO AND MOST TRUSTED - BUT THEIR SPORTSBOOK PROVIDER ARE NOTHING BUT SCAMMERS****"

Should we take whatever you say tomorrow seriously?
I would say let him be. Stake is more than capable of defending themselves and it is obvious that he is just a pure troll. By talking with him longer, you are giving him the attention he craves and that's all there is to it. He is doing it to get attention and if you keep talking with him he will keep getting it from you.

If you start to ignore him, I promise you that he will be gone, not just you but if everyone ignores him and nobody replies to him ever, he will get mad and do it a few more times, for a while longer but eventually since nobody cares at all, he will try to find attention somewhere else. That is how you handle trolls, by not replying or caring about them and fully ignoring them. I have been doing that on reddit and twitter for years now, and never had any problems at all, it has been an easy situation to avoid when you know this trick.

I agree when it comes to his trolling and usually just ignore that part (although sometimes I can't help myself) But I feel like it's still best to set the record straight when someone tries to use the forum in attempt to extort money out of a casino, especially when its so easy to prove they are lying after the fact.  It's good for people googling in the future, and it's good for the next time he makes some nonsense claim for whoever decides to go back and look at his past posts to see if he's credible.
1382  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 16, 2022, 08:21:36 AM
Ah, so let me get this straight. Their odds provider can play games but other people cannot? Lol I don’t need any money from stake, I’m simply here to trash their odds provider and will continue to do so. I have about another 30 glitches from many players. With a name like “twitchyseal” you really are a big boss.

You said the issue was resolved back in October.  How do you expect anyone to decide whether to believe you were being honest then, now or not at all?  

Last week you made a thread titled "STAKE AND SCAM RADAR SCAMMING AS USUAL $2500 owed!"

This week you made another one titled "MUST SEE STAKE AND BETRADAR SCAMMIMG 4 MONTHS TO INVESTIGATE BUNCH OF COWARD"

Now you're saying "****STAKE IS DEFINITELY THE BEST CASINO AND MOST TRUSTED - BUT THEIR SPORTSBOOK PROVIDER ARE NOTHING BUT SCAMMERS****"

Should we take whatever you say tomorrow seriously?
1383  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 16, 2022, 07:41:13 AM
I don’t need attention.

I’m just exposing their scam odds provider.

Can't play games like this and expect people to take you seriously...

You posted this on October 1:

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This is how betradar scams people. I am almost positive if my team would have won, they would have never “adjusted” it to a win. Keep in mind, I’m a customer who’s down a shitload of money and gives 95% of my action to stake.

What happened::

I placed a multi wager for about $2400 at the time. Payout was just over $6000.

First two selections had won, my last selection was winning by 8 points with about 45 seconds left. Cashout was disabled as they were -10000000000 to win.

Anyways, the game somehow went to overtime and while it was being played, my third selection was voided and paid out as a winner on the two legs and I was credited $3700ish.

Bet here https://ibb.co/yS70mFZ

I went to take a shower, I came back about 10 minutes later and the $3700 was removed from my account…I went back to look, and the team lost and now the bet was adjusted and settled as a loss lol

Proof here https://ibb.co/60cfrYg


Scammers Profile Link:
Stake.com

Amount Scammed: 0.09147646 BTC
Payment Method: Bitcoins


PM/Chat Logs: I told support and they admitted it was a “mistake” but my bet would stand lol

https://ibb.co/rG4VGXM

Then on October 2 you edited the OP:

SOLVED

Now here we are 3 months later and you make new scam accusation thread for the same issue you marked solved 3 months ago.  Then you delete the post, repost it here, and deny posting about it 3 months ago?

And you're really going to lead with:

I want to say that
****STAKE IS DEFINITELY THE BEST CASINO AND MOST TRUSTED - BUT THEIR SPORTSBOOK PROVIDER ARE NOTHING BUT SCAMMERS****

When you're basically only here to either trash them or try and squeeze money from them by dancing around all these accusations (while repeating over and over what a baller you are that doesn't care about money)



Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?
1384  Economy / Gambling / Re: ltccasino big win in Booming games on: January 15, 2022, 01:27:26 PM
We process all cashouts immidiately.

You may process small cash outs instantly, but the big ones take months. 
1385  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 15, 2022, 11:30:02 AM
A lot of users wanted to join 1xbit signature campaign.
Everyone who wanted to join 1xbit signature campaign automatically received a negative trust, so most of them resigned.
I am grateful to all members who gives negative trust to those accounts as it forced 1xbit to accept red trust accounts.
THANK YOU again!


Do you feel bad at all about other scammers being held less accountable for their scams, and therefore more likely to continue scamming  in the future?
1386  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 13, 2022, 05:15:30 PM
-snip-
It's just a warm up

Like free balance, the date of the monthly bonus is always a mystery but most the time in second or third weeks. I guess, why on December they give so early because is also on the month "Christmast & New Year"

I also still waiting my monthly.

Even though the information is clearly sent to email pre-monthly this time it's related to the new year's bonus even though 2 weeks of the new year have passed they still remember this is another way Stake bind customers , my bonus $25 is not bad. I guess is monthly will be given along with weekly bonus between 15-16 this month yes just a few more days.

Pretty sure they've never given monthly on Fri-Sat-Sunday to avoid stacking the bonuses.  It will probably be in the next 12 hours or next week Mon-Thurs.
1387  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 11, 2022, 09:23:50 PM
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You who defend this website are totally without mind and brain. This reviews are totally fake and paid and written by bots and reviews are totally written in random sentences.

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Apparently they don't pay them as much as the forum shills.

 


1388  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 11, 2022, 10:30:17 AM
It's not the first time some players have tried to exploit 1xbit's software and cheat on it. Otherwise I don't see the point in buying an account that has lost a lot. Mysterious things are going on here. When will cheaters finally gamble fairly? In this way, it is not strange that 1xbit closes accounts if there is cheating. I also think it's quite normal for every bookmaker to intervene against this.

I think for a while the cheaters had a way of avoiding being detected by 1xBit security. When 1xBit improved security, it started to detect them faster and block accounts. This infuriated them and they are now taking their revenge.

I think you're just saying that because 1xbit pays you so you feel obligated to defend them and it's the best defense you can think of.

I've explained to you over and over again that what these guys are doing isn't cheating.  They're betting on lines that 1xbet is leaving up too long.  When a sportsbook leaves a line up too long, players bet on it.  The sportsbook then has the right to go back and void the bet, but a lot of books will just pay it because it was their mistake.  You're arguing that when a book leaves a line up too long and a player bets on it, that entitles the sports book to take all the money in their account

And the multi account line defense is also garbage.  They literally advertise themselves as a fully anonymous Casino. 

If you're stealing player balances because they bet a line that you left up too long, you're a scam sports book.

If you advertise yourself as fully anonymous to attract players, offer promotions that can be abused with multiple accounts, and then steal balances because you suspect players are using multiple accounts to abuse promotions, you're a scam sports book.



1389  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 10, 2022, 01:47:34 AM
If you're only win some amount like x5 or x10 from your deposit amount and the amount is less than <$1000 it's only tiny amount for the casinos. Of course there's no reason why they should scam you for tiny amount while they can scam more money than that. 1xbit is selective scammer, if you only deposit for $100-$500 and win big amount money e.g above 1 Bitcoin, and they let you withdraw... post it here.
This won't necessarily prove that they aren't scammers and are completely legit or anything. As you said, they selectively scam their customers.

They could process withdrawals ranging from hundreds to thousands of dollars successfully without any issues while scamming other gamblers simultaneously which is pretty smart if you think about it.

I can see that you really care about convincing everyone to your opinion. But the fact is that this is still just your theory that you have come up with and cannot be supported by any argument.

No, is not just a theory. That's literally what scam casinos do.  Really all types of scammers do it.  Being a successful scammer is a balancing act, keeping your reputation as clean as possible while also stealing as much money.  If you steal too much too fast, your future profit takes a hit.  It's clearly what 1xbit is doing. (No doubt they wouldn't be able to steal as much if it weren't for shills like you).

I've seen it over and over, and it makes sense:  they process most withdraws and look for opportunities to scam larger amounts while pointing to all those withdraws you processed as proof you aren't a thief.  Players that seem less credible or demonstrate a lack of communication skills make for better targets than someone that's articulate or is known to be active and vocal in the gambling community.  I doubt they would ever scam one of their shills unless they were very desperate or it was a ton of money.


This theory may make sense if the amounts you are talking about were significant. Are you telling me that 1xbit only selects users who deposit below $1000? Such an accusation against such a large casino like 1xbit is pointless! These amounts do not cover even part of the costs of a signature campaign.. Come on!



Nope, not telling you that.  You're pulling that right out of your ass like the filthy shill you are.  I can't imagine 1xbit gets any serious action considering it's history of straight up robbing players is plastered all over the internet, but its not hard to find plenty of victims that lost significantly more than $1k.  
1390  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: January 09, 2022, 07:15:21 PM
If you're only win some amount like x5 or x10 from your deposit amount and the amount is less than <$1000 it's only tiny amount for the casinos. Of course there's no reason why they should scam you for tiny amount while they can scam more money than that. 1xbit is selective scammer, if you only deposit for $100-$500 and win big amount money e.g above 1 Bitcoin, and they let you withdraw... post it here.
This won't necessarily prove that they aren't scammers and are completely legit or anything. As you said, they selectively scam their customers.

They could process withdrawals ranging from hundreds to thousands of dollars successfully without any issues while scamming other gamblers simultaneously which is pretty smart if you think about it.

I can see that you really care about convincing everyone to your opinion. But the fact is that this is still just your theory that you have come up with and cannot be supported by any argument.

No, is not just a theory. That's literally what scam casinos do.  Really all types of scammers do it.  Being a successful scammer is a balancing act, keeping your reputation as clean as possible while also stealing as much money.  If you steal too much too fast, your future profit takes a hit.  It's clearly what 1xbit is doing. (No doubt they wouldn't be able to steal as much if it weren't for shills like you).

I've seen it over and over, and it makes sense:  they process most withdraws and look for opportunities to scam larger amounts while pointing to all those withdraws you processed as proof you aren't a thief.  Players that seem less credible or demonstrate a lack of communication skills make for better targets than someone that's articulate or is known to be active and vocal in the gambling community.  I doubt they would ever scam one of their shills unless they were very desperate or it was a ton of money.

1391  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 09, 2022, 04:26:05 PM
As a group, all of you are being targeted by rage bait headlines, and it seems to be working on you especially well.  That's my point.  

Well, at a certain point the "rage bait" headline isn't so much bait if the underlying principles are still egregious. You may not find them to be egregious, but after two years and enough of these headlines, they certainly seem to be pointing to to a common theme.

The rage bait is making you believe things that aren't true.

Another example of you buying into the nonsense bouncing around the anti-vax echo chamber:


To the extent Covid has made us all deranged, perhaps the most overlooked phenomenon of Covid is the mass formation psychosis generated out of fear, uncertainty, and anxiety.

See Dr. Malone, Harvard trained medical doctor, explain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJSwigON0k

As explained, an intellectual inquiry made by social scientists as to how it was possible that Nazi Germany would arise from a well educated population comprised of a civil society. How was it possible that a democracy could result in fascism comprising of the systematic extermination of 9 million jews. Surely humans weren't animals in the 1930's, yet we acted like it. Mass formation psychosis was the proposed answer.

It doesn't take much for humans to lose grip on reality, it only takes a bit of fear for emotions to run rampant. How people still fear Covid after 2 years, vaccines, therapeutics, and variants with less virulence is beyond comprehension.  

FACT FOCUS: Unfounded theory used to dismiss COVID measures
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-joe-rogan-ap-fact-check-a87b1044c6256968dcc33886a36c949f


Cliffs: The guy is full of shit.  Mass Formation Psychosis is not the result of some 'intellectual inquiry', it's some bullshit that anti vaxxers started pretending was a real thing in 2021 to make them feel smart or something.

Quote
Psychology experts say there is no support for the “psychosis” theory described by Malone.

“To my knowledge, there’s no evidence whatsoever for this concept,” said Jay Van Bavel, an assistant professor of psychology and neural science at New York University who recently co-authored a book on group identities. Van Bavel said he had never encountered the phrase “mass formation psychosis” in his years of research, nor could he find it in any peer-reviewed literature.

“The concept has no academic credibility[/b],” Stephen Reicher, a social psychology professor at the University of St Andrews in the U.K., wrote in an email to The Associated Press.

The term also does not appear in the American Psychological Association’s Dictionary of Psychology.

“Psychosis” is a term that refers to conditions that involve some disconnect from reality. According to a National Institutes of Health estimate, about 3% of people experience some form of psychosis at some time in their lives.

Richard McNally, a professor of clinical psychology at Harvard University, wrote in an email that people who support COVID-19 vaccines and public health guidance are not delusional. Rather, they are “fully responsive to the arguments and evidence adduced by the relevant scientific experts.”

Health officials have found the COVID-19 vaccines to be safe and effective — especially in terms of protecting against serious illness.

The description of “mass formation psychosis” offered by Malone resembles discredited concepts, such as “mob mentality” and “group mind,” according to John Drury, a social psychologist at the University of Sussex in the U.K. who studies collective behavior. The ideas suggest that “when people form part of a psychological crowd they lose their identities and their self-control; they become suggestible, and primitive instinctive impulses predominate,” he said in an email.

That notion has been discredited by decades of research on crowd behavior, Drury said. “No respectable psychologist agrees with these ideas now,” he said.

Multiple experts told the AP that while there is evidence that groups can shape or influence one’s behaviors — and that people can and do believe falsehoods that are put forward by the leader of a group — those concepts do not involve the masses experiencing “psychosis” or “hypnosis.”

Steven Jay Lynn, a psychology professor at Binghamton University in New York, said Malone’s argument that a group can “literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere” is premised on a myth about hypnosis.

“His claim represents a serious misunderstanding of hypnosis and doubles down on the popular misconception that hypnosis somehow transforms people into mindless robots who think what the hypnotist wants them to think and do the hypnotist’s bidding,” Lynn said in an email. “The scientifically established fact is that people can easily resist and even oppose suggestions.”
1392  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com - $1m Race + $1m giveaway - is this user real?! on: January 09, 2022, 06:01:22 AM
sure i have seen . all of the hidden first ones in race is streamers who their balance get refilled after reaching 0 .
Not going to keep bumping this thread, but you're just making stuff up now.  I know for a fact that there are players who don't stream, have their stats hidden and finished towards the top of the last big race. 
1393  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 09, 2022, 05:52:53 AM
You gotta stop falling for all the rage bait.  Apparently any headline that says someone got arrested or thrown in jail or beat up by police for not wearing a mask gets a shitload of clicks, because there are a ton of them.  But if you bother reading any of them you'll see most of them are pretty just a variation of the same story.  Person isn't wearing a mask where masks are required => Police Approach them and explain the rules => Person ignores police/ argues with police / tries to intimidate police / refuses to wear mask or leave/ lies about who they are or something else stupid.

So you're okay with police harassing citizens over not wearing a piece of cloth over their face? Maybe when you drop the partisanship you'll have an understanding at how much power the government has gained over the last 2 years. It's ubiquitous.

If you're somewhere that masks are required, I'm fine with literally anyone letting someone else that doesn't have a mask on that they're in a place that requires them.

You disagree that people should have to wear masks, we've established that.  There are lots of people who agree with you.

As a group, all of you are being targeted by rage bait headlines, and it seems to be working on you especially well.  That's my point.  

Yes, there a rules that people have to wear masks in certain public places while they're doing or not doing certain things.  
Yes, the rules are sometimes enforced.
No, the police in Australia aren't just going around throwing people in jail because they weren't wearing a mask.
1394  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 08, 2022, 04:44:41 PM
If you've been paying close attention to nations like Australia, France, and Germany, their courts have also declared Covid to be a severe emergency, such that law enforcement can imprison those that might be outside without a mask or enter a building without being vaxxed.

Imagine two years ago if someone had told you people would be jailed for not showing you they took a shot.

You're idea of paying close attention seems to be reading right wing headlines and then getting angry, as I've already addressed, the way you're describing the world right now and reality are not the same thing.  Quit falling for the rage bait - it doesn't take much effort to dig a little deeper than a headline.


There were plenty more misstatements of fact. I only picked the most egregious one that is easily disputable. There is no possible way to believe Omicron is as deadly as Delta.

I'm not going to waste my time inevitably getting into a semantics debate with you, but you picked an out of context tweet that was meant to fire up the whole "I did my research and all those experts are wrong!" crowd.  I already posted a link to what was actually said.
1395  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The KRAKEN Rises !!! on: January 08, 2022, 12:59:21 AM
The fake news media ran with the ... fake news, that the Maricopa audit confirmed Resident Biden's "win".
....blah blah blah more gateway pundit poppycock..blah blah blah...


Seriously? You need to break out of your alternate retarded reality bubble.
The election has been over almost a year.    FFS dude,   let it go   ..

(Unless you are just trolling, in which case... lol.     This is the  KraKeN kraCkpoT  thread after all.)

In about 2 weeks, you and the other neo-marxists posting here are going to face reality: Trump won Arizona by a large margin.
In the meantime, the RINOs are trying to suppress the overwhelming evidence of election fraud, but I hope they will fail.

I hope you're still lurking on an alt and see this Tzupy.  I'll tell you what, if you decide to come back I promise not to respond the posts you made before going inactive:

In about 2 weeks, you and the other neo-marxists posting here are going to face reality: Trump won Arizona by a large margin.
In the meantime, the RINOs are trying to suppress the overwhelming evidence of election fraud, but I hope they will fail.

We shall see who laughs in the end.
The AZ Senate RINO attorneys have suppressed, for now, the evidence of large scale fraud. From the watered down report:

Analysis of the paper ballots has discovered ballots which exhibit characteristics that are anomalous and do not match
known legitimate ballots. This includes color ballots that are missing Machine Identification Codes (MIC), as well as
ballots that are demonstrating consistent printing irregularities that suggest they were not printed with the standard
ballot PDF generated from the Dominion Election Management System (EMS).

On to the news:

Cyber Ninjas Closes Down Amid Debt and Legal Challenges

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cyber-ninjas-closes-down-amid-debt-and-legal-challenges-11641574049

Maricopa County also released a report explaining in detail what a fucked up dishonest job the cyber ninjas did.  Thank god most of the people that are falling for the big lie are a bunch of idiots.








source: https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=015h.Lpf186Q3vaRfU2IqmgwK0A9w7jXPtdsKc1plVk-1641603051-0-gaNycGzNCNE

summary: https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/pdf/Correcting%20The%20Record%20-%20January%202022%20Report.pdf

exhibits: https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/exhibits/Correcting%20The%20Record%20-%20Report%20Exhibits.zip
1396  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 07, 2022, 05:56:43 PM
US Supreme Court Justice says Omicron is as deadly as Delta - https://twitter.com/ShannonBream/status/1479480779747045381

Forgetting the position of a SCOTUS judge for a second, I see this a lot -- the conflation of variant strains merely because the uncertainty lies within the data, so the immediate worst outcome must be accepted. We do have most of the data for Omicron, so it's possible this judge just is refusing to accept the data, or is allowing emotions to get the best of her.

Fact - There has been less than 100 deaths world wide of Omicron. Someone should have told her before she made a fool of herself.

Fox News host tweets a one liner and you're off to the races.  Do you really want to be like Tash?



In case anyone is interested in context, the exchange starts just before the 47 minute mark: https://www.c-span.org/video/?516920-1/justices-hear-case-vaccine-test-mandate&live
1397  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com - $1m Race + $1m giveaway - is this user real?! on: January 07, 2022, 04:46:07 PM
That is definitely suspicious but you or me and no one can prove it so we should just let it go :/


You also have to consider that the people with these ridiculous amounts of crypto likely don't want their identity known.  That includes both their real life identity and online.  Think of how many click bait articles would be written the second anyone confirmed who they were.  If they want to gamble big, it make perfect sense for them to just hop from new account to new account and it makes perfect sense for stake to allow them to do that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the AABB account owner is done with that account already.


Per stake TOS , this point doesnt apply

https://stake.com/policies/anti-money-laundering

"Withdrawal Threshold KYC. Additionally, and independently, every account, wherever or with whomever associated, will be suspended until adequate KYC diligence occurs once that account reaches a withdrawal threshold dependent on the accounts risk characterisation over the life of the account."

Now how much of that stake is implementing , is another question

But, per that rule, stake is NOT anonymous friendly casino anymore.

I know people who have been limited and forced to kyc, this was on sports , however there no separate rules for casino and sports on stake, for now

There's a difference between a casino knowing the identity of a player and the players identity being public.  Eddie knows who the player is, he said so during a stream.  Changing accounts is an effective way to prevent the public from figuring out who you are.  Especially if you're a known figure in the crypto community.
1398  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com - $1m Race + $1m giveaway - is this user real?! on: January 06, 2022, 02:10:20 AM

Quote
Weekly boost is a .01% refund on your total wager. $1 for every $1k wagered.
Second and third place in the race paid $120k and $80k.
The players that finished second and third wagered over $120 million.  
That means that during that period, they each were paid over $1.2 million just in weekly boosts.

your calculation is totally wrong
first  0.01%   1$ for every 10k
so i think you did mean   0.1% refund on wager  like the rakeback so its gonna be 1$ for every 1000$ wagered .

secondly  if a person wagered 120m$ it means  he gonna get 120k on weekly boost

if it was 0.01% as you said then they will just get  12000$ for 120m$ wagered  

Fuck me, you're right.  I was off on both ends. Fixed.

Even with my numbers being 10x off, pretty much everyone is still going to be receiving more in weekly, monthly and reloads than whatever prize they ended up winning in the race even if you move them up one spot, and when you add up each players regular bonuses and race prize, that number is going to be at least ~ %0.2 of total wager and less than 1% of total wager, which is the magic number that keeps the house edge in stakes favor.  That's what these raffles and races really are: Stake returning a piece of the house edge.

1399  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com - $1m Race + $1m giveaway - is this user real?! on: January 06, 2022, 12:28:31 AM
That is definitely suspicious but you or me and no one can prove it so we should just let it go :/

You have to take into consideration Stake is the biggest crypto casino, probably the biggest casino in the world period when it comes to how much is wagered there on a regular basis.  When you count Prime Dice, they've been around longer than anyone, will process withdraws for hundreds of thousands USD instantly and millions in minutes.  They are obviously making a shitload of money, which makes the thought of scamming someone even for tens of millions of dollars a dumb idea.

Basically, if you want to gamble for millions, there are really only a few options where you don't have to worry about running up a balance so big that the casino would have to decide between going bankrupt and scamming you.  Stake is one of them.

You also have to consider that the people with these ridiculous amounts of crypto likely don't want their identity known.  That includes both their real life identity and online.  Think of how many click bait articles would be written the second anyone confirmed who they were.  If they want to gamble big, it make perfect sense for them to just hop from new account to new account and it makes perfect sense for stake to allow them to do that.  I wouldn't be surprised if the AABB account owner is done with that account already.

You also have to put the amount of money in perspective.  Stake knows how much their players are going to gamble in general, they structure the payouts so that everyone gets somewhere between a few hundredths and a few tenths of a percent of their wager back.

Think of it this way:
(Edit: I did some stupid math initially and my numbers were off by either a decimal or a comma, just went and fixed them)
Weekly boost is a .1% refund on your total wager. $1 for every $1k wagered.
Second and third place in the race paid $120k and $80k.
The players that finished second and third wagered over $120 million.  
That means that during that period, they each were paid over $120k just in weekly boosts.

The 10th place racer received almost $50k in weekly boosts before getting his $10k race prize.  And remember, you don't just get weekly boosts.  There's monthlies and reloads and other bonuses as well.

Point is, the money looks huge to us normal people, but when you put things in perspective, the race prizes are peanuts, which is why accusing Stake of some elaborate scam so they can steal a few hundred k from players they regularly bonus millions is ridiculous.

1400  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 05, 2022, 05:51:51 PM
https://www.axios.com/macron-piss-off-unvaccinated-people-498b180d-a8eb-49d8-a61c-5a7f67aece73.html

Macron wants to "piss off" the unvaccinated in order to coerce them into taking the jab. I speculate which public health measure does this fall under, perhaps a new division -- bullying and harassing the noncompliant into bodily procedures that they are in no position to consent to. "Forced consent" as they might call it. Despite being an oxymoron and entirely unethical, Macron isn't fazed. It starts at forced vaccinations, and once government has control over bodily autonomy with a vaccine under emergency use by most developed nations, the possibilities are endless.

Macron isn't letting unvaccinated into places like restaurants and theaters, Just like NYC, or Hawaii, or Italy, or Germany, or plenty of other places.

What he really wants is everyone to get vaccinated.  Because that's how you end a pandemic.  

Guess what, most first world countries have been requiring children get almost a dozen different vaccines in order to be admitted into a public school.  Why would they do that?  Because when everyone gets vaccinated for a specific virus, people stop dying from the virus.  It's not a coincidence that human life expectancy has doubled in the past 100 years, and about 100 years ago was when Humans started to make progress developing some of the same vaccines that 9 out 10 people have taken in most first world countries.
At least France is not Australia yet and beginning to use police to throw people in jail for the crime of being outside without a mask, but surely they aren't far off.

You gotta stop falling for all the rage bait.  Apparently any headline that says someone got arrested or thrown in jail or beat up by police for not wearing a mask gets a shitload of clicks, because there are a ton of them.  But if you bother reading any of them you'll see most of them are pretty just a variation of the same story.  Person isn't wearing a mask where masks are required => Police Approach them and explain the rules => Person ignores police/ argues with police / tries to intimidate police / refuses to wear mask or leave/ lies about who they are or something else stupid.

Here's a good one:

Man is JAILED for 'not wearing a face mask' at a shopping centre in Sydney's Covid-hit eastern suburbs

Right wing conspiratards: "Oh shit, let me tweet that, governments are trying to control our bodily autonomy!"

From the article:

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'When police approached the 60-year-old man it's alleged he became aggressive and ignored directions to leave or wear the mask correctly,' police said.

'He then ran away and following a short foot pursuit, he was arrested.'

He was taken to Maroubra Police Station, fined $200 and refused bail.
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