Too busy and distasteful for me.  I'm feeling like "I should get busy working on something to prove more effective" IMHO of course, I like what you've got and will likely use your info but attempt to present it more cleanly.  Why the plug on the bigger site on the left corner...nvm you're from canada....got it.

ya retired bastard!!!! lol j/k I'm stuck here like a debt slave like the rest of the world....any others wanna chip in with me on a 65 btc SATOSHI forest house?

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at least put like 30 percent of your money into buying and holding btc for the ease of mind that you still made a killing if the price jumps tomorrow.  what miners dont see is that if they sell it during a bubble that happens next year during may/june....they may miss the 3rd big bubble at the 3-5k USD mark where that initial 30% will be sold for a hefty profit that took care of the mining ROI regardless

a fantasy for me and is highly unlikely to be possible.

he did enough solo mining to be through by now...for all we know there is someone who works for bitcoin full-time who happens to be him and its a schizophrenic episode to be satoshi.

heres a new argument - what if I bought one off amazon because I only had Credit to begin with...just one.  Lets take out the additional expense of extra stuff like fans and external hubs and presume that Im only doing one. I got one shipped for 23 dollars at the same time the price is 139 which converts my breakeven at that point in time to .164

Now, I didn't have cash or dollars to throw down on btc and only had the option to use credit which already explains why I couldnt just buy and hold btc.  I think I could make .08 BTC according to genesis block...by then I could also make another .08 in BTC by mining an alt I know this is now before difficulty goes up but coinwarz suggests that one block erupter could also mine terracoin which would yield approximately .0038 btc a day for just one erupter.  .08/.0038 = 21.05 Days added till break even so anyone who says you can't do it hasn't considered this. 

I will play devils advocate and mention also that this is not realistic to expect it to be this soon..there are also bound to be other sha246 difficulty jumps on those coins too which may triple or quadruple the remaining time required to break even on the block erupter.  If you ask me the goal isnt to continue to live off the erupters forever, unless you keep switching alts and have enough hashpower like in the several terrahashs to throw into an altcoin network.   


Let difficulty hit a few billion and I promise that more alts will jump in interest.  By virtue of the calculations brought above, I could even go so far as to speculate that those prices of the alt I mentioned could also themselves be higher in price from the interest and difficulty  spikes of having them available.  A

what difficulty do you think it takes until we see a flood of hashrate on altcoins?  I mean there are more and more sha256 alts over time.

Had you bothered trading elsewhere...you would also have known that this happened because their wallets used on coins-e server are out of date and not compatible with the current iteration.  You need to talk to their support team and demand that they update their wallet so you can withdraw out.

not for everybody...I initiated the chargeback and never got the shipping notification....but I did get my money back....hell I probably wouldve wanted the offer for the shipped miner instead...fuck bfl

sounds like someone has a little bitcoin envy and wishes that their balance would pass .99    you hold a dear place in my heart next to 'sad keanu' poor keanu...

[bubbly enthusiasm] Have the majority of followers on this thread simply transitioned over the KNC's forums?  I liked those pics of the data-center they're building.  Ermm so if sam and cole are building a datacenter....who's overseeing the automation which is suppossed to be continuously mfg units? Also, if you guys just choose to ignore this weekend, it will be like t-15 days till OCT!!!!!!!!  And if you really want to just stop thinking btcminer mentality at least for those dreaded following weeks to get your hardware....buy yourself a consolation prize of Grand theft Auto V.  ITS COMMING NEXT WED!!!!! [/bubbly enthusiasm]

lol he got ripped off they only do ASICMINER stuff which is like 10x overpriced...even with the crazy price drops they did.  Hopefully he mines alts too?

okay so I've been through the chargeback process on both sides and here is how it works:

person files a claim with their credit card company or bank.  The funds are immediately withdrawn from the merchants account and placed into a temporary holding account.

the merchant is mailed a letter from the customer's cc company with space to reply with a written rebuttal.  If the charge back is fraudulent, the merchant will provide evidence like a signed proof of delivery or a merchant slip with the customer's signature on it.  If those things are located, then the merchant does have a chance to argue against the chargeback and have his funds recovered

It all depends on if there is a service being used around the transaction like Amazon, paypal or ebay.  People who lose on chargebacks  involving those companies have lost because it was expressly prohibited to offer the sale of those types of goods according to the terms and conditions set forth on the website and thus the seller typically has zero recourse.  

What's confusing? When I see engaged as a business that means you've registered to be an LLC or filed to become Incorporated or have registered for an FEIN [federal employer identification number]  I'm pretty sure I answered this in a different thread and gave examples that (yes true it is my opinion and should not be taken as professional legal advice) constitute as being exempt from needing to register with fincen vs not being exempt. 

DING DING DING!!!

vote....for franenmint

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287590.msg3102500#msg3102500

IMHO seems wise to do this to all boards for at least....yea yea I know you scared clowns all say "you kill the miner and void your warranty"  Its a calculated risk, I'm just asking if you have a USA device and have done this with any success.

lol that's a play on madbitcoins crowd-funding campaign to talk bitcoin and spread the message through his YouTube channel

By the way, Congratulations that is a lot of hashpower...his idea is genius by the way, good job greyhawk.  Do both, give dividends, issue shares, maybe keep half or more of your shares to you only...get it listed on bitfunder or litecoinglobal(if you're into that thing).

No one saw the network effect from the European Debt crisis and Cypress.  Not even Avalon...if you ask me...it should always be the standard that any bitcoin mining hardware companies should also be willing to accept bitcoin as a form of payment - Avalon saw this no differently.  If BTC had followed a more linear steady growth trend, it would probably have stayed at a lower rate for longer periods of time and there would be less demand for hardware.  I, like a great majority of other users here, got into bitcoin AFTER learning that the price of it could potentially Skyrocket in value,  not before.  


Why is it that every time I keep seeing people complain about not being able to perpetually make heaps and heaps of money simply for processing power - dude its Jurassic Park/Concrete Jungle status.  "Life Finds A Way"  which is why mining kept being pushed off to technology that could increase efficiency to stay above diminishing returns.  


Guys....MINE ALT COINS....seriously....MINE ALT COINS  when diff is too high for you to sit with.  Obviously there is a bit of a gamble here that depends on your belief as to whether or not the price will go up.  If you think it goes up a whole bunch then you should consider holding onto your mined coins a bit longer.


To me, it seems as though the only ones who actually feel the urge to complain, those who are quick to curse this gift of "free money essentially" seem to desire selling btc immediately for local fiat...this was always meant to be an activity that marginally rewards you for protecting the network.  The block reward halving is a way to wean out the reward structure for early adopters.  The thing is that alt-coins can and are sold on exchanges for BTC and can be mined at a much higher rate.  

Do not trick yourself into thinking that a sustainable career path could be made by mining btc and playing the hardware arms race upgrade game.  Hold your mined coins and only sell a small portion at any given time so that you don't lose from any other potential price climbs....conversely, if you really want your investment to pan out better (talking about if you dropped Grands upon grands on ASICS HW or GPU for scryptcoin), then start TELLING YOUR LOCAL MERCHANTS TO ACCEPT CRYPTO!  Keep a few bitcents on a mobile wallet, show them the mobile wallet and explain that is money in your pocket that could be in theirs if they are willing to accept BTC in addition to Cash and Cards.  

SATOSHI FOREST FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FWIW I'll leave you with this bit on mining.genesisblock calculator = their calculation doesn't do network retarget adjustment - it does Exponential Curve Rates for Difficulty.  As we all know, asics HW MFG doesnt double month after month, sales do not double month after month, and if more people follow my advice with mining alts- that is hashpower that gradually transitions onto alt-chains as well.  Put it this way, do you buy 1 miner the first month, 2 miners the 2nd, 4 the 3rd month, 8 the 4th month, 16 the 5th month, 32 by six months in???  Can you really see 1 person even being able to manage that level of miners?  I don't...its not realistic.  Well the genesis block calculator seems to think that is absolutely realistic.  Yes its my opinion....no one really knows what to expect within the coming months.