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1401  Economy / Economics / Re: It ain't meant to be easy on: August 16, 2023, 07:47:15 PM
There are no shortcuts in life. If you want to be in a better position, then work for it until you succeed. Success may not happen overnight, but once you are working on it, things will definitely fall on its right place. That’s why in every endeavor that fails, in every business that ends up being bankrupt, in every goal that has not reached, learn not to quit. Though we don’t hold the future, but if you keep setting the things right, if you stick with its basic rules, if you keep being patient all the time, then everything will be smooth sailing along the way. Just learn not to give up, and keep motivating yourself, in the end success will eventually come your way.
1402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 16, 2023, 02:53:42 PM
When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

Yes you are right that mate furry vs ngannou will be a expensive fight as we are all know that this fight is one of the satisfied to watch and also for sure everywhere in the world that can access this fight will do a live stream. And for sure both fighters will has their own preferred highlights for this match. Some of a gamblers will choose Tyson furry to win this match but I think this is a hard fight as we all know that ngannou is a tough fighter.

Not only are you enthusiastic about this match, I even really liked the concrete neck (Mike Tyson) from my childhood, and in the end I was able to witness Mike Tyson's return to boxing again against Ngannou, of course it's worth watching and even for sure all boxing lovers will watching this fierce battle, because we know that Mike Tyson has decided to retire from the world of boxing, but I was surprised when I saw the threads regarding this discussion, of course this will be an exciting spectacle for me to watch with my family there who have always idolized Mike Tyson..

Talking about this fight, looking physically very far from Mike Tyson and Ngannou and very far from the age difference between the two boxers, if in terms of experience, of course Mike Tyson is far superior to his opponent, but physically Ngannou seems to be in good condition in stamina as well as movement and punching power are still in good condition, then what about Mike Tyson's punching power at the age of 57, is it still the same as the age when he was still a professional boxer, of course this is a question mark for all of us as spectators, even though this fight only aiming to make money, at least we are all still asking questions about Mike Tyson's condition, stamina and punching power, which is already 57 years old.

Mike Tyson has already an age which means his Stamina, power, speed and strength are not the same when he is in his prime or let say in his younger ages. But the veteran is still veteran and I think he has to prove us that ages doesn't matter as long as his body can sustain from the punches of his opponent then all I can say is that still he has a chances. But in the other hand ngannou will take the age advantages in order to defend himself he will use speed and power for sure.

Wait, you both sound confused because I think both you misunderstood the title of this discussion mate, Tyson Fury and Mike Tyson are completely a different person and the latter is definitely not the one who will take and fight Francis Ngannou on his first boxing debut because he already have retired in the boxing world decades ago. In-fact, Mike Tyson volunteered to help prepare Ngannou in his fight because he believe he can teach a teach or two against the Gypsy King who is also a champion and undefeated.
1403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney on: August 16, 2023, 08:15:54 AM
Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

Devin Haney was almost buckled by the smaller Lomachenco in the later round of their fight so there is no doubt that there is a possibility that Devin Haney will kiss the canvas in his fight against Prograis since Prograis is a heavier boxer, a heavier hitter than Loma and bigger than Loma.  I do not think that Haney can evade all the strong punches of Prograis so I also think that Prograis  has the possibility to win the fight via KO.

That's one weakness of Devin Haney, he has weak chin, there are other fighters as well that buckled him down, before Haney. It's that it was not a clear punch that hit him. But if a bigger guy like a natural welterweight in Prograis the Haney might not take it lightly and go down and this could be the selling point on how Prograis can score a upset here.

For sure Haney will be the favorite but facing hard hitters in the 140 lbs division, Devin will be made aware that this weight class is different for him and he might not survived at 140 lbs with all his big punchers and natural guys that literally packs a power.

That makes sense which is why Devin Haney was mastering the art of defense and counterpunching because he doesn't have any skills or options that can take down any given foe that he will face against. His only weapon is his IQ and defensive tactics that can evade strong punches but that too has its own limit and going against the natural guys at 140 pounds might be too much for him to handle and he will surely have some difficulties in that weight class.

I would be glad if he will be listed as the favorite in their upcoming fight because that will be a huge advantage for me to bet towards Regis Prograis, may it ML or via KO.
1404  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When Trading becomes Unfavourable on: August 15, 2023, 09:28:41 PM
Trading is not just all about wins, but at some point trading comes with losses as well. And regardless if you are a newbie or a pro in trading, it’s inevitable to see unfavorable trades simply because the market is not stable and certain. However, this is the reality in trading. That’s why before one decides to trade, he should weigh those calculated risks first, and should be ready to trade for losses because trading is never a guaranteed profits all the time.
1405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots fever on: August 15, 2023, 07:42:37 PM
I’m not actually a slot lover but what I’ve seen mostly in slots players is they have these high chances to end in profits especially if they have been extra lucky that day, but on the other hand slots is also the fastest way to lose all your money in an instant. That’s the reason why i love sports betting more rather than risking my money in slots. With slots, it’s all about pure luck and chances, there’s no room for skills and working strategies.
1406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A weird belief among some gamblers. on: August 15, 2023, 06:54:55 PM
That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.
1407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul Vs Nate Diaz boxing Aug 5th on Dazn PPV on: August 15, 2023, 02:55:42 PM
They’re saying that Nate Diaz walked away from this fight with Jake Paul having made over twenty million dollars. That is more than his entire career in the UFC. Say what you want about Jake Paul, but he helped Nate Diaz make more than his lifetime earnings in one night. This is why the UFC is trash and needs to be replaced with something better for the fighters.
This was boxing man, not MMA. This huge payday of Nate Diaz has absolutely nothing to do with the UFC. This fight was worth millions because it was a fight between Jake Paul and Nate Diaz and Jake Paul is great in marketing, you have to keep in mind his background, an youtuber guy, who was watching disney+ turned into a professional boxer in late adolescence. Guy mas millions of subscribers, don't forget that he is a brother of Logan Paul who is also enormously popular and famous. These guys are extremely wealthy, popular and marketing gurus too, the UFC has nothing to do with this pay, absolutely nothing. Also, this was a boxing match, not an MMA match.

Btw, I don't really understand what's the point of buying a ticket and PPV of the rigged match.

It's not totally rigged because we can only say that Jake Paul had 90% of chance to win, no guarantees despite having that much percentage because if Jake Paul's fight were rigged in the first place, he could've remained undefeated by now and defeated Tommy Fury on their fight in the past months. There is no certainty but we can already tell who will win, it's not that hard to figure out.

Not rigged but we both know their chances in the fight and that the chances of Nate Diaz won't even amount for us to start considering that he might win the fight, and which did happened just like how we forecasted it because there was no way that Jake Paul would lost the fight after having an embarrassment against Tommy Fury. But on their upcoming rematch, which is not yet sure for now, I think Nate Diaz will have the total control of the fight.

Bookies even know that Jake Paul will likely win the fight as he was listed as the heavy favorite to win.
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The Paul vs. Diaz fight card begins at 8 p.m. ET. Paul is a -380 favorite (risk $380 to return $100), while Diaz is priced at +300 in the latest Jake Paul vs. Nate Diaz odds. The over/under for total rounds finished is 7.5, with the Over juiced to -135. Before making any Jake Paul vs. Nate Diaz picks, make sure you see the boxing predictions and betting advice from SportsLine analyst Peter Kahn.
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Judging by the betting odds, it's evident that no rigging has taken place. Additionally, Jake Paul is an active boxer, whereas Nate Diaz is a UFC fighter who is already past his prime. Given these factors, the outcome was somewhat predictable.

The notion of rigging might arise because some people base their judgments on what they hear rather than what they see.


One of the reasons for that is their hate with Jake Paul which made them blind in the process and just instead say that it was already rigged and so there was no need for us to watch because the outcome was already crystal clear specially after the fact that Jake Paul needed a win to bounce back after a loss versus a true boxer, Tommy Fury.

It is undeniable that some people don't appreciate his motive in the boxing industry because he organize some fights that looks like circus already but look at him, he is still making some fights up until now because he's literally good at it and they did not realize that their hate towards Jake is the reason why he is still relevant these days.

Yes, you're right about that and whether we like him or not, it is what it is because despite portraying as being the bad guy publicly where we can at least say that he's not giving the boxing industry a good image because of his deeds, he is still well loved in his own community because he have his own supporters, a huge one by the way, that will always support him in almost everything he do. And in every issue that he will cause, for sure people will be talking about it but it's already a trick so that his name will always float anywhere. Hence why he is so successful today.
1408  Economy / Economics / Re: Am I a bad person if I manage to avoid taxes? (Hypothetical question) on: August 15, 2023, 02:40:22 PM
I don't how you're going to avoid all of your taxes, but you'll get exposed soon and you won't like what's waiting for you.

Avoiding your taxes isn't the solution to battle inflation, you might save some money but you're still going to spend it on buying the things you need and wants and that's still consider as paying taxes. But to answer the your question, yes, you're a bad person if you're avoiding some of your taxes, whether it's every month or every year.

It's actually not that bad if you can evade it legally, I know it's not something that is frequently talked in the society today because it is our responsibility as a citizen to pay taxes but in line with the topic, you'll be surprised that most billionaires and other rich individuals are even getting away with it without having any problems because as I said, they have done it in a legal way. Well, not evading wholly because they are still paying a big sum annually (food, clothes, wants and other needs that are also taxed beforehand are not included) but not as big if they are not having some techniques to evade some of their taxes legally.
1409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney on: August 14, 2023, 03:48:31 PM
Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped. Cheesy

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

Ok if I got it right, they already agreed and sign the contract and so they have the date already settled, then suddenly, they wanted to change the fight date much earlier?

Yeah, it's weird though, question is why they want the date to be change in the first place? They can't reason out that the venue is not ready or something. If they have sign a contract then for sure they already have a place for that. Not sure what to take from this drama, but definitely, this is a bitch-ass move by the Haney to derail Regis plan.

It should be easy because Regis Prograis can always weave what they have discussed because of this nonsense move made by Haney and his camp, not sure what they thought by the way that led them to this but they just made themselves a huge embarrassment for trying to pull this trick. Also, if there was already a signed contract then this should be a done deal already, nothing will be changed unless if there were some injuries or emergencies.
1410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas on: August 14, 2023, 03:19:50 PM
There shouldn't be an issue because he chose this path for a reason where he will be needing to jump weight classes and it will be a big embarrassment if he will starts making an excuse upon his defeat because people already know the chances beforehand and it's not that he is expected to make a miracle. He just should just stick with it and move on but if in case he wins, he can have all the credit for it because it will mean that he will be the new undisputed at 168. But first, we'll see what he can do against Canelo.

We will know more of that once the both of them is done sharing the same stage as either way, only one will come out smiling and winning in this fight because I don't think that a draw is one of the possible outcomes in this fight. And so, I guess we should rule that out too.

As per speculations, it is not that shocking anymore that people are rooting for Canelo over Charlo because how can we go against the undisputed champion if the challenger isn't even from super middleweight division.
1411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You must do this if you want to QUIT or NOT on: August 14, 2023, 01:32:31 PM
^

Yes, learn to control yourself during gambling is difficult enough because the feeling of excitement can overshadow other feelings that help make rational decisions, but once you learn to do it gambling will appear before you in a completely different light. In fact, a person who has learned to control himself and his desires can get a lot more advantages, not just a responsible attitude to gambling. So in my opinion it is a very useful life experience.

This is the most difficult part of gambling despite exploring all the techniques it would still require some discipline for one to be able to control himself over the kind of amount they should gamble with and also how regularly they should place bet in a day, week and month. That is why whatever that makes a gambler strike a winning it gives them more confident and hope to put more effort to continuously gamble.

And that is exactly what these casinos are looking for because they are taking advantage of the fact that there are only few people in this world who can control themselves fully without putting their emotions behind the wheel, and the other perks is that they can always ban some gamblers whom they think that is too competitive to their business that could likely drain their money even if that's not much compared to what they are earning in a single day. That is why self-discipline is important, but that thing cannot be acquired overnight because you have to work yourself out for that.
1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: August 14, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

That reads a lot like the stereotypical drug addiction ad... I can see the sketchy looking dude saying to you "the first one is free", and then a jump to a drug addict on the streets a few months later.

Casinos are a money making machine, even more than drugs, because you can only consume a certain amount of drugs per day, but you can bet all your life savings in a single day.

Most of the time the people who consume the drugs for free,because the first drug is sponsored by their friends.The People use to give free drugs to their friends because they will act as the company to them in the near future.Like wise,most of the time gambling site give the people the free bonus.The gambler will get additional bonus on their deposit to the gambling sites.Casino is the golden resort to get more money by using it.It's true the drug doesn't give the user to earn money,but the gambling site will do.
So the casino will probably be like that advertisement where the casino offers, "come on, let's play just once and have fun," and we finally give it a go. And after getting the fun of it, we start to think it's okay to gamble with small money. Finally we return to gambling after a few days but unfortunately, it is not accompanied by good self-control so we become addicted like addicted to drugs. And that's what we experienced when we first learned about gambling and maybe there are many other examples because the experience of everyone who knows about gambling will be different.

It's all a business folks, there will be always two sides of the coin, one is on the upper side while the other one is on the bottom and by the bottom, I meant gamblers who are losing almost every single day and even if they won (which happened occasionally), it wouldn't be that much to say that things will be even against the casino. And the casino is indeed a money making machine because they are legal, while drugs aren't when the bottomline is both of these things are destroying people's lives.
1413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 14, 2023, 08:13:54 AM
The Athletic is reporting that the Philadelphia 76ers are refusing to trade James Harden and requesting him to appear in training camp. However, James Harden has said he has no plans to play for the 76ers this year and won’t be attending training camp. We’ve got ourselves a bit of a stand-off situation to start the 2024 season.
Now we are seeing a drama again with Harden. Kawhi has been with a lot of dramas because of his injuries, and load management, but Harden is a lot worse than him.
I mean coming out very fat with the Rockets, this feeling where he's like the boss of the Sixers and just saying things like that. Commissioner Adam Silver warned the league already after Lillard saying that he doesn't want to play except for the Heat, and for sure he will take measures for this one as well.

First it was Simmons who didn't want to play after what happened to him, and now Harden. I'm just a bit pissed with this players who they think that they are the authority, and they have the power to choose what they want to do like they're the boss of their own team. Like WTF!!!, and I hope that out Commissioner will not take this very lightly, and put sanctions to players who are acting like this. Overall, I will not be surprised if the Sixers will be forced to trade him before the season starts just because of how he is acting right now, or they will just let him stay with the Sixers since his contract will expire after this upcoming season.

Kawhi Leonard is different though because injuries are actually preventing him to play but if we take that out, we wouldn't be seeing any problems with his name. Moreover, these things weren't even a thing in the past but now they are giving these players more power that is why some of them are already asking for a trade after a single season with a failure that includes them on the equation why the whole thing didn't worked out. But I guess that it became a norm nowadays that these star players will just wash their hands and walk away if don't like how it goes.
1414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul Vs Nate Diaz boxing Aug 5th on Dazn PPV on: August 14, 2023, 07:47:00 AM
They’re saying that Nate Diaz walked away from this fight with Jake Paul having made over twenty million dollars. That is more than his entire career in the UFC. Say what you want about Jake Paul, but he helped Nate Diaz make more than his lifetime earnings in one night. This is why the UFC is trash and needs to be replaced with something better for the fighters.
This was boxing man, not MMA. This huge payday of Nate Diaz has absolutely nothing to do with the UFC. This fight was worth millions because it was a fight between Jake Paul and Nate Diaz and Jake Paul is great in marketing, you have to keep in mind his background, an youtuber guy, who was watching disney+ turned into a professional boxer in late adolescence. Guy mas millions of subscribers, don't forget that he is a brother of Logan Paul who is also enormously popular and famous. These guys are extremely wealthy, popular and marketing gurus too, the UFC has nothing to do with this pay, absolutely nothing. Also, this was a boxing match, not an MMA match.

Btw, I don't really understand what's the point of buying a ticket and PPV of the rigged match.

It's not totally rigged because we can only say that Jake Paul had 90% of chance to win, no guarantees despite having that much percentage because if Jake Paul's fight were rigged in the first place, he could've remained undefeated by now and defeated Tommy Fury on their fight in the past months. There is no certainty but we can already tell who will win, it's not that hard to figure out.

Not rigged but we both know their chances in the fight and that the chances of Nate Diaz won't even amount for us to start considering that he might win the fight, and which did happened just like how we forecasted it because there was no way that Jake Paul would lost the fight after having an embarrassment against Tommy Fury. But on their upcoming rematch, which is not yet sure for now, I think Nate Diaz will have the total control of the fight.
1415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: August 13, 2023, 10:34:53 PM
Well, if you can lend a cash advance to your worker so he can pay his debt on the betting agent, then problem solved. However, you cannot guarantee that the same scenario will not happen again especially that you are making things easier for your worker to gamble and lose his money in the end.

For me, I’d say the one at fault here is the gambler itself since he’s not supposed to gamble more than his income. And if by chance he’s just taking advantage from the agent’s offer without the intention to pay, then I must say the gambler is not a responsible and a reliable one especially when it comes to paying off his debt.
1416  Economy / Economics / Re: Would You Consider Adding Bitcoin to Your Retirement Savings on: August 13, 2023, 09:28:15 PM
Bitcoin is indeed highly profitable at the moment so this is also one of my dreams to invest in bitcoin and make it as a retirement investment. But I’m also aware that despite of its high chances to make profits, the rate to easily lose your money is also high knowing bitcoin will always be a high risk asset and whoever invest in it without previous knowledge and experience will find it hard to reap its profits in the future. However, if you do your own diligence to research first before you invest, and understand the risk behind it, surely investing with caution will also create some positive results in the future.
1417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling experience using loan money on: August 13, 2023, 03:56:37 PM
Gambling using a loan money is a big NO. The thing about using loan money for gambling is when you lose, you lose twice. It just doubles your regret, doubles the guilt, and doubles the money you lost. In the worst case, you will be possibly get into debt and that is something that we want to avoid. When I'm engaging to gambling I always tell myself to only risk something what I can afford to lose, in this way I am always reminded to not exceed my preferred amount for gambling. So, only gamble using your free money, but if you do not have any, better not to engage at all.
That is good advice we should keep in mind so we don't get into debt trouble. And it's true that we shouldn't borrow money to gamble; if we don't have money, it's better not to gamble. But unfortunately, that doesn't apply to people who gamble out there because they are still trying to borrow from other people, even though some borrow from different people. And when they lose and are billed to pay their debts to many people, they will need clarification and can only run away every time they are billed. It is already a big problem for us where we must pay all the debts at once or we will be arrested for not paying them.

Having a loan just for the sake of gambling alone will just add some problems to you in the future and whether you like it or not, the reality about gambling is that you are always bound to lose even before you start gambling. Also, why would you add some extra problems to your life if you already know that there are no certainties that your bet will always go through in that given day. That's just a wishful thinking without weighing the situations carefully, sooner or later, don't be surprised if you are already digging your own grave.
1418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas on: August 13, 2023, 03:28:56 PM
     

Canelo Alvarez’s next fight had been rumoured to be Jermall Charlo, but instead it is twin brother Jermell Charlo facing the Mexican on September 30; Canelo is the undisputed world champion at super-middleweight, with Jermell jumping up two weight divisions from super-welterweight

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12912747/canelo-alvarez-to-face-jermell-charlo-in-undisputed-las-vegas-showdown-on-september-30

If anybody sees odds for the fight please share in the thread.

Thanks.

Mike Tyson himself had something to say about this fight. He seems to believe that Jermall Charlo is going to lose this fight and that Canelo Alvarez will easily beat him, without much of a struggle. Charlo said "Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson — he could say whatever he wants". But I think that the winner is going to be obvious here and Mike, with his years of expert experience, saw it coming. Sure Charlo had a good rise from his weight division but he is still not ready for Alvarez. Ambition combined with pure and unadulterated willpower alone cannot win fights for very long.

I guess we don't need to be a Mike Tyson so see who is going to win this fight. I mean, Charlo is good at 154 lbs, but this is a totally different league for him at 168 lbs and this is the best weight class for Canelo Alvarez.

14 lbs is too huge of a difference.  A tough 168 lbs fighting a  154 lbs even if this 154 lbs is a heavy hitter does not need any special ability to see who is at the advantage.  Even if we consider Charlo's punching power is devastating at 154 lbs, he is fighting a tough opponent that can absorb heavy punches from light heavyweight opponent.  And they are fighting at the most comfortable division of Canelo.  So almost all odds are against Charlo.  Even speed is against Charlo on this because adding more weight will hamper is agility.


Might be more reasonable if this bout is catchweight but it isn't and that will really give Canelo an advantage in this fight because Jermell will have to face a lot of difficulties before he can reach Canelo's division and after that it's not yet over because he then will have to face a natural 168 lbs. boxer which is an added difficulty to him. Not sure how would this fight go for him but I know that it will always favor Canelo without a doubt.

I doubt that Canelo can go lower than 168 lbs though if they go for a catchweight. It will be draining for him as he is used to his weight and as we all know what when we grow older, we are bound to really gain weight so I don't think that catchweight is possible here.

So it's on Jermell side to really accept the fight or not. And in this case he is willing to go up in weight so we can say that the weight could not be an issue.

And it's interesting what I read that Canelo is targeting the twins, it was supposedly Jermall in this fight but his 154 lbs twin Jermell step up and take his spot. But if Canelo wins, it is said that he is going to fight Jermall the 160 lbs champion at 168 lbs.

The fact that this bout already materialized means that Charlo is eager and confident enough to go up in weight and skip some weight class just to fight Canelo at the latter's own dominant weight class. Not sure what he thinks by the way because I don't see any reasons why should I side him on this path or bet with him because he even pursued this fight without having any warm up for his inactivity.

For me, this is just a money fight and Charlo was already tired waiting for someone that can give him a competitive paycheck that is why he is now going to fight Canelo at 168 even if it that will mean that he will be stripped of his WBO or is it WBC and a possible lose as well.
1419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 13, 2023, 02:46:36 PM
What is the real reason why these two would fight each other? Because one told that he would beat other and the other person offered to tey it? That reason is so childish. Such calls for a fight stopped to look serious in school. These two are already adults. It is stupid to get offended on something on such an age and times of duels and white gloves slaps are gone.

That is the thing because there is exactly no reason why these two billionaires should prove themselves into a physical fight because that is not who they are, and they haven't got to where they are now because of fighting. Not to disrespect but physical fight shouldn't be their contest because they surely don't have any brute strengths to compete with.

Now when it comes to when did this flame started, I don't totally remember when and why because at first, I just thought that this is just a mere joke. Even now, I still think of the same thing.
Joke or not, it could be used as a major publicity stunt for both platforms. When this topic came out my 1st impression was that Elon would wipe the floor with the guy, but now my opinion has changed. Zuckerberg looks like he's in better shape and trains more.

That's what makes the people to be more curious if they are indeed making the fight happen because both of them are saying the same thing, it's not just a plain words because both of them are also having their respective preparations for the fight. But yes, I do agree with you, they have something different in mind that is why they are making these things and staying relevant to the public.
1420  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: August 13, 2023, 02:12:26 PM
Tapos si Kai din yata nagprapractice narin, may mga lumutang na video nya sa social media at sana maganda ang pakita ng Pilipinas ulit ngayong tournament na to.
Siya din inaabangan ng marami pero sana maipakita din ng ibang Gilas players na hindi lang si JC o si Kai ang dapat abangan sa roster na ito. Ito kasing mga hype vloggers, puro Kai at JC pero lulutang naman yang ibang mga players at maha-highlight din kapag WC na.

Speaking of Kai Sotto, mukhang may isang problema na naman siyang kinakaharap kasi di pa siya sinasama sa scrimmage ng Gilas dahil umano may injury pa siya at hindi pa naipakita yong MRI result nya sa SBP, saklap naman nito mukhang some sort of punishment na naman to dahil sa hindi nya pagsali doon sa mga tune-up games sa China pero sana naman maayo nila kaagad to dahil kailangan talaga si Kai Sotto ng Gilas para sa depensa.

Ewan ko ba dito kay super coach, nabasa ko din yan kanina biglang sumulpot sa mga ads ata sa fb pero nagulat ako kasi may napanuod akong short vids na nagpapractice na sya nung dumating si JC, nandun na rin sya nakikipractice kasama yung ibang players ng National team, wala naman tayong magagawa kung bigla na lang mag decide si super coach na wag isama si Kai at mas piliin ung Ravena bros dahil sa dedication ng mga ito sa pagsali sa mga practice yun ata talaga ang pinagbabasehan, practice ka lang ng practice para hindi mahirap mamili kasi nandun ka naman palagi at naiinindihan mo yung plays unlike kay Kai na hindi nagpapapractice baka makagulo lang sa lineup at hindi naman sya katulad ni JC na proven na ang pagiging NBA star. Hhahaha... bahala na lang kayo umunawa sa opinyon ko mga kabayan!

Kung ganun eh may kinikilingan talaga at kawawa naman si Kai kung hindi makakapag laro dahil sa hindi pagkakaintindihan. Ok lang kung talagang may injury sya, pero kung pepersonalin na naman eh hindi maganda.

At kung papipiliin naman ako, no offense sa mga fans ng Ravena bros (never akong naging fan nila), pero ako sa Kai Sotto.

Pero tingnan na lang natin, baka pati nito eh maapektuhan is JC sa mga intriga hehehe.

Di malabong mangyari yan kabayan lalo na at malalaman ni JC na may di pagkakaunawaan sa team, syempre madadamay sya at baka mawalan nadin ng gana dahil nga ay naapektuhan na ang buong team dahil sa pangyayaring ito dahil hindi na nagiging maganda ang naging decision ni coach para sa team dahil lang sa simple misunderstanding na dapat nang nasolusyonan. Sana nga ay di naman tayo umabot dyan dahil masasayang lang din lahat ng pagod nila.
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