Also, I do not believe on this...
The new world based on cooperation, will be MUCH more "colored" than you even imagine. Just read the book: The Best That Money Can't Buy, of Jacque Fresco...
The today's world is already black and white!! But black of polution and white of foam detergents in rivers...
BTW, a world without Windows and only with Linux.... hehehhe... This is a GOOD thing that should happen!! lol
Cheers!
Thiago
Don't believe in books... believe in life and practice. Over the books even communism is the ultimate wonder (and hey! is "cooperativist"). In practice it manage to outnumber even Nazis in the body count they caused. Cooperation is good, but Freedom of Choice must stand, otherwise it becomes an "enforced cooperation", the worse of the Totalitarian systems. Tudo bem Tiago, eu sou Português, o inglês também não é o meu idioma nativo. |
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I didn't say "competition provides diversity", I said there's a correlation between those two but not causation.
If you look, let's say, Linux and Windows, they both seams to be "competition" - correlation - but each of them do their things their way, there's diversity.
Now if A produces headache pills and B produces also headache pills using the same formula but different brand, you're getting competition but not diversity, as besides the brand there's no difference between them. So they "compete" on the only ground left; price. And how do they do it? By trying to exploit their employees or put factories at Vietnam... and you start to have and feel the negative effects of "competition" you were talking about.
On this balance there's yet another thing: "Consumer defense" is the major scam on the ground. Everybody, unless handicap, too young or too old or an useless parasite being living at someone else's, or the State, expenses, is BOTH: Consumer AND Producer.
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My losses: about 2 btc and 400 scamcoins... ups!... "solid"
Not that much, if we consider the current value of a scamcoin... damn, again!... "solid" is about -0,000000000000000(...)001 btc
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Thiago,
I would second you BUT I guess some people put glory over the wrong subject; competition, whereas it is a correlation, not a cause, for an important feature: Diversity.
In fact several companies working on the same business but NOT doing the same are good for human development and freedom of choice. Imagine there were only PC's or only Windows or only Linux... the World would be black & white.
This was for me reason to believe on solidcoin on the first place, unlike i0c and ixc, slc was about to be something "new enough" to detach itself from btc and keep a separate path. Obviously CH became the cancer of SLC, acting postal, erratic and bashing bitcoin by claiming to be "fixing issues" he wasn't helping anything and killed his own project.
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Inaba, The only way to do that by not storing the generated salt is by creating a function sort of: <?php
function computeSalt($var_to_use_as_ground,$site_secret = "akljhe34907##!@3hjd"){
$pw_pointer = 0;
$salt = "";
for($l = 0; $l < strlen($var_to_use_as_ground); $l++){
if($pw_pointer >= strlen($site_secret)) $pw_pointer = 0;
$salt .= $var_to_use_as_ground[$l] ^ $site_secret[$pw_pointer];
$pw_pointer++;
}
return $salt;
}
//Example:
$pw = md5($receivedPwd,computeSalt($user['username'])); //be sure to use the username as in the database to not make it case-sensitive on login
?>
It had some entropy to the salt, as the only way to get the salt is by getting not only the database but the code itself also. Nevertheless you won't be getting much, as within several samples the attacker would have enough to dump the xored var value. |
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No, I'm thinking on: darksideofthe.Moonco.in
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It's about time...  I'll create one, it will be just giving deposit addresses if you don't mind. Send specially bitcoins, any GG will be throw away by the window on arrival. After I've enough BTC I'll claim to be hacked and close it down. Sounds OK? |
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One thing is for sure, Mr. Moon was NOT using bcrypt. I timed the login and it was wayyyy too fast to use crypt.
He changed to bcrypt recently but you had to change your password to have it re-encrypted. Did you test after that? No, before. It was already there a message saying he used "bcrypt", but his site login time would show more something like md5 or ripemd160. After that change I went there once, but the site was slow allover, no way to measure that. |
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One thing is for sure, Mr. Moon was NOT using bcrypt. I timed the login and it was wayyyy too fast to use bcrypt.
I'd also sent him messages reporting bugs and issues, as the single block confirmation on deposits.
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Hey, you gotta ask CH before using his source, remember?
Jizzzz! Now I'll be sued for IP violation! Glad I have SC to pay the fine. |
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"if then else statement" technology. That technology sound A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! I can just imagine! #define SCAM 1
void scam(){
if(SCAM == 1){
doScam();
addPreminedBlocksAtRandomAndArbitraryDecision();
addProprietaryLicense("This is mine!");
resetBlockChain();
addPreminedCoins();
}else{
//There's something wrong! SCAM is a constant! Warn CH his scam is failing
mailCH("Scam failing!","scam@sc.con");
}
scam(); //Let's loop it allover again... and over and over and over...
}
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And I find it interesting how you claim this is misinformation, Does TruCoin not now have somewhat (at least) a controlling stake in "core bitcoin" development now since they are employing you to do it and staffing other developers etc. to do it?
Come to think.... was this ever formally announced so that conflict of issues concerns could be addressed? Is there a plan in place to form an industry council, I am sure Mt.Gox, Ruxum, Tradehill etc. would like to ensure that 1) They have equal say in the development focus as TruCoin now has and 2) Ensure that TruCoin is not afforded certain privileged status (i.e. early access to spiffy new features or misrepresentation that Bitcoin is their project since they employ the developers)
This tells me more about you than about Gavin... |
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Try #bitcoin-otc, usually they do trade everything there.
@Cosbycoin,
But those won't have the charm of being forged in a plain scammed blockchain.
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I have some SC I want to exchange for BTC, any place to do that right now?
Sorry, seams like ScamCoin is out of commission. I've some SC too... I'll sell them for 1,000 BTC ea. (Hey! Now they're collectibles! ) |
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And this keeps going around... Anyone mind to explain WTF is a "random salt" in a sense it needs to be computed?! Something like: <?php
$chars = "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789";
$charsToUse = mt_rand(8,25);
$salt = "";
for($l = 0; $l < $carsToUse; $l++){
$char = mt_rand(0,strlen($chars)-1);
$salt .= $chars[$char];
}
md5($pass,$salt);
?>
?! Sounds nice? Am I listening a "security bullshitter" about the MD5? Rest assure! This function is so damn secure that no one will be able to decrypt it, even if it's MD5... even if brutteforced all it can renders is something out of a collision, not by any chance your actual password. A small glitch, as we don't store the salt anywhere and it is plainly random, there's no way for anyone to log in. A small detail, but... hey... it's secure.  |
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If you really want to distribute it, then distribute it to exactly to those same addresses that held the coin in the old blockchain.
Unlike Bitcoin, Solidcoin ain't decentralized, it's centralized over its "creator and dictator". If he was really up to do something right, he would simply tell the people to keep their wallet.dat files and funds will be there on restart. However SC clearly looks to be no more than his pump-and-dump scam. To not mention the obvious; SC1 was about 0.01 btc, SC2 will worth 0.0000001 btc if someone will be dumb enough to put even a bitcent on some solidcoin exchange to show up in the future... |
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"we will reset the chain" "we will blacklist addresses" "we will protect from fraud" "we will do amazing never seen thing" (unless you already had use paypal that is) CH: Your "fuck up counter" is beyond red line. Take a vacation, refresh your mind... "solidcoin" is anything but "solid" is a cracked piece of junk now. Here's how to process the "redistribution": - CH or one of his associates gather all the 1 M SC from that 1st block wallet at the excuse "1 M has been mined before" and then you probably need to contact that guy giving your previous and new SC addresses. First issue: Anonymity - ZERO Second issue: You'll be logged by that person, so he can also match your previous transactions to the coins you hold. Third issue: Not everybody will come claim the coins, so the remains will stand on CH hands. You're a sort of "Steve Jobs" of cryptocurrencies aren't you? I wonder if you aren't thinking about include a mandatory update checking/installing function in your scamcoin, if so make it better, if the user sets a proxy, like Tor, make the function bypass it... after all you're "the king of the scamcoin" and you need to know your "sitting ducks"... sorry... users. |
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Every time a post like this happens, bitcoin goes slightly in the direction the poster advised for 10 or 20 cents, then it falls about 150 cents in the opposite direction.
Your statement is pure superstition. And I don't claim in a few hours btc will be X, but with the end of the scam-chains, specially the one which managed to be for a short-while the most promising, as the other's are carbon-copy+bug-added versions of bitcoin, bitcoin will regain its place. |
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joulesbeef, I want a serious, yes or no answer here.
Would you rather have these attacks happen now, when a BTC is worth ~$5 scammy forks are worth 0.00x BTC, or would you rather have the attacks happen when BTC has achieved mainstream use and 1 BTC = ~$10,000 scammy forks may worth 0.x BTC?
Fix'd He isn't talking about attacks on BITCOIN, but on forks. Ya but the attacks on all alt chains give insight for bitcoin's protection. Duh! Is it?! Look at CoinHunter's signature and come back. Bitcoin is one thing, all those alt-chains are another. Those alt-chains ships with bugs - they call "features" - and were a total fail, not Bitcoin. Bitcoin came out of this unscratched in such grounds. |
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