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1561  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: -- Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: January 14, 2014, 01:10:14 PM
They weren't out of fab until late December according to one of his other posts. So it looks like their schedule slipped.
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 14, 2014, 04:19:47 AM
Update, #4 finally took a dump and got marked dead, after about 50 hours of hashing. Give or take, I can't remember exactly. Restarted it and so far so good. No HW errors when it died, just died.

It's back to hashing happy. It seems to remain lower than the others for output. Might lower its overclock if it happens again.
1563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin on: January 14, 2014, 04:17:19 AM
1564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 14, 2014, 12:48:52 AM
Interesting. I'll go make a comparative study on them. So a 5 slot motherboard is also cheaper than the 6 one from ASRock.

What brand do you recommend for the 270? The guy in Taiwan has them all priced within 5 USD of each other.

I don't have one I would absolutely say blows the others away. PowerColor AXR9 and Sapphire both are doing a bangup job, and it looks like the VisionTek's are as well.  The cooling design of the Sapphire and PowerColor appears superior to the Visiontek's (the copper piping), but all of them are doing fine right now. Picture:



0 - Sapphire Dual-X
1,3,4 - Visiontek
2 - PowerColor

Physically the layout is: 2,0,4,3,1

I would buy them all again. I had a chance to get some more today for MSRP but couldn't convert the BTC->AMZ in time.
1565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin on: January 14, 2014, 12:31:30 AM
TAG seems to be sorting itself out but I will try to spread the message to spread the hash power. If it means creating a few pools as joint ventures with others then I can do that as well. I cannot demand that Botpool, or any pool for that matter, refuse new miners..:-) I can only ask them to throttle back...

As for which chain anyone should be on, I suggest going with the block explorer at explorer.tagcoin.org, which should always have the highest block...
If TAG "is sorting itself out" why is the block explorer reporting the last blocks with Difficulty: 0.00417864?




Dang, I'd love to be mining on that chain ...
1566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Development on: January 14, 2014, 12:30:09 AM
so I bought a Viper in the pre-order batch earlier.
hope this guys deliver.

I've seen the same drama back in later 2012 and early 2013 when everyone said Yifu/Avalon were scammy looking
but then their Avalon 60g miners came out. At that time, I did not order anything from Avalon and had booked earlier with
BitcoinAsic.com instead, which was a painful regret as Tom did not deliver.

oh well. praying hard now.

Despite my hesitation I wanted to order, but before the books 'closed' the photo and description changed, and it said no more in stock. So I couldn't even when I wanted to
1567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin on: January 13, 2014, 08:34:59 PM
While I totally get the valor in asking large pools to step down a bit, it's sortof like entering your work sedan in a race against supercars and asking them to go easy on  you. It's everyone for themselves out here, and the asian side of the water always has more power, and they'll do what they want with it.

In other news, I could setup a VPS in Tokyo ... lol
1568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 13, 2014, 08:30:00 PM


What happened to the "Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com" thread?

I been reading PAGES about difficulty estimates, predictions, news of trading platforms, blockchain reporting.

Can we get back on track?

It's hard to get on track when there is 0 info coming from the company. Until then, the monkeys are in the driver's seat.
1569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin on: January 13, 2014, 06:06:37 PM
I have never seen coin witch such problems before. Does it mean we can loose coins?

Go look at giftcoin or starcoin or one of the many other coins.. there's issues out there. Tag is the only one I've seen "fix itself".

This is the only coin I've seen with so many orphans and still be a live, usable, coin.
1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Development on: January 13, 2014, 03:59:37 PM
No word from aplha yet?

They still haven't responded, and no updates.

I actually tried to place my order the day preorder was going to close, and during the transaction it said 'no more in stock'. I took that as fate's way of saying I wouldn't be in on the preorder.. lol
1571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin on: January 13, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
I just logged in to see the back to back to back orphan run. That's not fun to see.

I like how lately tag has been getting more consistant attention and it's being mined a little bit more than usual, and the price has steadily been above .0023, and I also like how in these instances the chain has worked itself out--but I'm wondering if it needs some fine tuning to be able to handle the swings in hashpower.
1572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 13, 2014, 05:39:39 AM
Anyone have some good hash rates to share from R9 270 cards?

1573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DGC][ARG][MOON][TAG][NRB][HBN][VARDIFF][Stratum + Getwork] CryptoPools.com on: January 13, 2014, 05:30:22 AM
How are doge blocks verified? Doesn't seem like the last four blocks are moving at all when it comes to the verifications. I thought it went by network blocks?

Looks like the 2 I found this hour are being confirmed, unless I missed something.

there was a "split" in the doge chain. You needed to update to the new client to see the new blocks. But on DogeCoin.com it shows the last block being 44670 but the pool says we are now working on block 42379.

The ONLY time the confirmations move are when WE solve a block, its like we are on our own chain.


I'm far from an expert with this stuff but it looks like we are wasting our time/hashing power right now?

Yeah that would be bad. Hate to do it but I'm going to move my miners until this is sorted. Good luck.

Post your DGC address for your 100 DGC bonus as you found 4 blocks.  As for the DOGE blocks, post your DOGE address.  I'll send you some DOGE. 

-tb-

Awesome, thanks man.

dgc DHWWHx9Ac95p3izn3uKW1LZr5MzMw9XPPX
doge DLnN7ALrrfpaV7L9bXVHYMrsNcJQo3r7Dt


1574  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: -- Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: January 13, 2014, 04:52:44 AM
They supposedly have the chips in their hands as of this weekend don't they? Would take them another 2-3 weeks of testing to make sure it's working.

So end of the month or early Feb before shipping.

Or next year, one of the two.
1575  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT 80 GH/s miner review. on: January 13, 2014, 04:33:17 AM
Almost looks like the cat5 cable goes in that black plug above it, and that there's a cover off.
1576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 13, 2014, 04:16:26 AM
Vesper,

I was all over the 270 bandwagon... but not sure now... I finally got a good power meter and I have a set of Sapphire Dual-X's that are runnning 1.5Mh/s at 630W including 80W for the system... that is 275W per card... they are under-volted to 1.187... and I think I could get them as low as 1.160 and keep that hash-rate.

With my 5 card test unit, I really like the power savings (almost 100w) over my other rigs, and it's providing 200-400kh more on average as well. With the Prolimatech aftermarket coolers, I bet the power savings would be another 20-60 watts. For the watt/hash, these are surprising results, but the variance is noticeable, and I'm not sure how "Stable" the system is yet. I've had it running like this for a few hours. Will know for sure when I wake up in the morning.

Of the 5 I have running right now, 2 of them at any given time are at 490-492, with 2 more varying 485-492, and one of them perpetually 480-485. Varies constantly. Power usage remains about the same, 975-985 watts, which puts it in the 175-180w range for each. When i go back downstairs to the test rack I'll glance at the meter again.

The Sapphire and Powercolor have been the most rock-solid stable on an individual basis, with the visiontek doing a great job speed-wise but with some slight variance. I'd order them again in a heartbeat though for the right price.

I think I'm just pushing the motherboard/riser combo to the limit. No cooling issues so far. I have USB risers coming this week, I'll see if that makes a difference. FWIW, all 5 are using the same gpu settings, I'll share below.

EDIT - HURRAY!!!! I finally got BAMT running!!! I have a bald patch!!!

Congrats! Hope it works well for you, let me know if I can help.

@vesperwillow, what PSU(s) are you using?

Depends on the rack and rig. I use a mix of Seasonic 850 Gold Plus and 850 Platinum, Corsair 1050HX & AX series, Thermaltake TPG-1050M. I've had no issues with these guys yet. Guess I've had good luck so far. I also have 1 Raidmax RX-1000AE which just died after 3 months of use. Lifetime warranty on it so I'll talk to them. I got it for $79 so I can't complain much.

@vesperwillow, mind listing the complete specs of your 270 rig? And maybe I can buy those parts either locally or that guy in Taiwan. Mark just replied to me that he priced his rig incorrectly, hehe. (No wonder it looked like a good deal.) In any case, I offered to just buy the GPUs at the "correct" price if he's still inclined to sell them, since they aren't being used anyway.

For the 270X test rig, it's pretty much the same as all of my others, usually the only difference is PSU. Here it is:

ASRock 970 EX4
2gb DDR ram (Kingston HyperX or Corsair XMMS, whichever is cheaper)
AMD Sempron 145
ADATA 3.0 8gb USB stick

PSU: Thermaltake TPG-1050M

1x PowerColor AXR9 270X 2gb
1x Sapphire Dual-X R9 270X 2gb
3x VisionTek R9 270X 2gb

Software: BAMT 1.2, Cgminer 3.7.2

GPU Settings:

"intensity" : "20,20,20,20,20",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000,24000,24000,24000,24000",
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "120",
"gpu-engine" : "1145",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "20,20,20,20,20,20",
"temp-overheat":"87",
"temp-target":"60",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "60",
"scrypt" : true,
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"

You could ignore the redundant intensity/powertune/tc settings, I just left that from when I was doing individual tuning.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention, welcome home, 24Kilo.  Good seeing you on the top 15 list, beating Vesper too lol.

Yes indeed! I saw the challenge he put out, I love it. Oh wait, what's this.. I'm ahead? Not for long I bet lol..

Question for everyone in the US... does anyone know a source to buy Newegg gift cards with BTC?  As much as I hate them after their BS with cancelling my orders 3 times, they have stock in some gear I want to buy.

Second question... anyone have any experience with ordering items o Amazon that say something like "item ships in 2-5 weeks"?  Just wondering how accurate that measure is.
-Fuse

No and No. There's stuff I'd love to buy from Newegg right now.. wish I knew a way to go BTC-> Newegg as well. LMK..

As to Amazon's, I talked to a lady the other day from amazon, she said when it shows that it means it's an item they don't often carry high stock on, so when you place your order, they will then order the item from the distributor. My gut feeling was to not even try since the distributor was probably bone dry. I could be wrong, but I just didn't want to tie money up.

As it is I have money tied up with a TOXIC order which is likely never to be fulfilled. At this point I just want to sell the card for a profit to buy more 270x's, but I'll probably just end up cancelling the order if it doesn't ship this week.

The good news is I think a fresh shipment of some cards may be on its way as the factory seemed to have gotten some more 270's in stock..
1577  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: AMT 80 GH/s miner review. on: January 13, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
I like slush's pool, pretty stable.
1578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin on: January 12, 2014, 07:08:51 AM
Hmm, timing is suspicious.  Mark is away and publicised the fact, it's late Sunday in the Philippines and there would be no one in the office.  Is BCX playing around with us again?

What's BCX got against Tag???

There's purported evidence that in the past, he intentionally forked the coin for profit, and then helped fix it later on. That's what I've heard at least.

1579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TAG] TAGMining.Com- Try your chance at our weekly jackpot! on: January 12, 2014, 07:04:16 AM
I should've been in bed 2 hours ago, but just got my test 270X rig working. This is as bad as my car hobbies.

I have 5 of the 270X gpu's running on my ASRock 970 Extreme4. What I spent 90 minutes on was trying to get it to recognize more than 4 cards. What was happening was PCIE slot 4 was ignoring anything plugged in. I checked this across other known-good ASRock's I had sitting around, I also swapped out risers/etc, and narrowed it down to a motherboard issue. Finally what solved it was I had to jumper / short the slot (as seen in THIS link here).

Once I did that, the motherboard recognized all 5 GPUs.

I don't have time to tune the cards, but so far the max wattage I've seen being pulled is around 980w, which equates to 175w each gpu plus system power. This is about 70 less than my other setups, and there's a good 50w more I can save with aftermarket cooling stuff.

As to hashrate, my powercolor is still overclocked at 492. The other cards I have set to run on stock clocks (eng/mem 0/0) at 24000 TC, and they're getting 437 or so. They were doing 467 but settled down. One exception is the GPU in the jumpered slot, it kept dying out after a few minutes. Not sure if it's a power issue or the fact the slot is jumpered, I'll figure that out tomorrow. I had to drop TC to 8192 along with intensity and powertuning, so it's running at 276 right now just to keep it alive.

Something tells me the visiontek cards aren't going to do as well as the powercolor, and the sapphire will do a smidge better than the visiontek. We'll see..
1580  Other / Archival / Re: [WTS] USB Style PCI-E 1x - 16x Powered Riser Cables !! $17 Each on: January 12, 2014, 03:13:18 AM

Yes, it appears I slipped in an errant "these" in my original question that did however reference ribbons. I've edited it for clarity, as I was speaking about risers in general, so sorry for the confusion. USB carries power obviously, so it's impossible to know if the 12v line is connected back without actually asking the question.

Irrelevant honestly. I've read those threads. I run GPUs which draw 350-400w per gpu on unpowered risers, some of them are 60cm long, all without issue. So do other folks with large farms in china and elsewhere.

The REAL problem is when your PCIE power rail is failing to produce enough current for the GPU's draw, so then it attempts to pull more from the PCIe socket. If the cables have varying quality, especially on the solder joints, you'll end up with the cable's 12v line acting like a fuse. If the motherboard is damaged from this, then the PSU is/was failing (likely the 12v rail), and/or it wasn't properly spec'd for the current draw.

Folks can't just buy a PSU that says X watts and presume it'll work. The important detail is the 12v rail *constant current drain* raiting. I have some which are rated for 27-29amps per GPU, and some which are 35amps per GPU. I match the appropriate rail with the appropriate GPU depending on current draw.

Coincidentally, it doesn't matter if these or any products "back feed"--that doesn't even make sense. DC flows in one direction, and there are plenty of diodes on GPU PCB's to prevent such a situation. You'd fry the tracer on the PCB before you fried a cable if there was a backflow issue. The tracer is thinner than the PCI riser cable. This is all supported by many of the photos, where the riser burns up at the slot--the current is drawing/trying to draw from the slot--likely, again, from a PSU lacking the ability to provide current. If it were a back-flow issue, the tracers would poof.

Not trying to hijack the OP's thread, but just provide clarity on a wives-tale.
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