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1581  Economy / Services / Re: Steem/Steemit.com accounts blockchain-powered social media on: June 07, 2016, 02:15:06 AM
Still available. Due to the increase in BTC value, the cost for low-level members is now reduced to 0.006 BTC. The promotional offer of free accounts for Sr+ members continues.
1582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 07, 2016, 12:59:17 AM
i did created 3 accounts, in everyone posts with different topics,
getting 5-9 upvotes each (i dont vote from other accounts)
and every account has not more than 0.10$ pending payout, every account has 10-20posts total..in few days
and still nothing... i know some not very valuable posts, but some really not bad, at least not worst than most who gets 300-1000$ in pending payouts some of them even first 10mins.

im not trying to troll, but every day... that steemit.com project looks more like big scam, not a real... i there big concetration of accounts who bought steem power and now voting for them selves , from one account to another an so on..

first a was really exited about this project, but now...

his not gonna work, at least for those who bought steem and locked up for 2years

You may be right, but I'd say wait until after July 4 to assess. That's when the system for recirculating voting power starts.
1583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 06, 2016, 09:36:35 PM
Aaaaaand it's gone! Happens, when believing into a Bucket Shop Coin traded on merely one Exchange.

Anybody thought about alternative methods of trading Monero? Oh, I see ... you allready did.

I've traded Monero at least 5 different ways and probably more than that.


5 ways to trade Monero outside of Poloniex:

1) shapeshift.io
2) bitsquare.io
3) bittrex.com
4) changer.com
5) moneroclub.com

There's more, but that's off the top of my head.

6. p2p
7. bter.com
8. hitbtc.com
9. xmr.to
10. openbazaar

Not all of these are recommended. In fact I recommend none of them. Do your own homework.
1584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 06, 2016, 09:03:31 PM
Aaaaaand it's gone! Happens, when believing into a Bucket Shop Coin traded on merely one Exchange.

Anybody thought about alternative methods of trading Monero? Oh, I see ... you allready did.

I've traded Monero at least 5 different ways and probably more than that.
1585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 06, 2016, 05:45:56 PM
It will be interesting to see the price of steem after the July 4th distribution. I am guessing at first it will take a pretty big dive  Undecided

It may (in fact it seems to be taking a pretty big dive already), but the economics of Steem are pretty complicated. One thing to keep in mind is that none of the above rewards are paid in Steem. They are paid in tokens that can be converted to Steem, but only in specific ways. Steem Dollars are going to pay interest too, so some may hold on to it. Others certainly won't. It will be interesting to see.



1586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 06, 2016, 03:21:31 AM
but anyway coin has no investment value (yes, i read whitepaper )
if someone is mining they have dump immediately, coz they loosing fast  as zimbabwe's dollars

This is wrong twice.

First of all, miners can't dump. The mined coins (Steem Power) are locked for up to 2 years.

Second, Steem Power doesn't suffer the same high inflation as unlocked coins (Steem).

Nevertheless everyone should make up their own mind about mining and/or investment value. It may be a bad idea after all.

o post 3posts in 3days and result, for example 1 post created 3days ago has 5votes, earned 0.01$ (pending payout)
and just looked in "created" one post created 6mins ago and have 5votes and 303$ (pending payout)

Voting is stake-weighted (aka Steem Power). If you have hardly any stake then your votes aren't worth much. If you want more influence then you have to buy (or later earn) Steem Power.

Right now this means voting is dominated by whales. But that will change rapidly starting July 4 when the rewards start paying out. People who post or comment and get a lot of upvotes will then receive large payouts in Steem Power, regardless of their existing stake and without having to buy it. They will then start having a major influence in voting.

The idea is to automatically redistribute voting power out to the most productive and respected participants. Once there are a lot more people with big chunks of Steem Power than you won't be reliant on a small number of whales to get good upvotes; there will be many others who can do so as well.



what makes you think that there will be "large" payouts?

Here is a post with statistics. It is a week old and in the past week new user signups and posts have really taken off.

https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/current-payout-distributions

An equal amount of Steem Power will be distributed to posters along with the Steem Dollars. Of the people on the leaderboard, only @dantheman and @dan are steemit insiders (both are accounts of Dan Larimier, the CTO and lead dev). The rest are community members.

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    $434,000 Steem Dollars would be created
    444 accounts would receive some Steem Dollars
    Average payout would be $977
    Median Payout would be $95
    10 accounts would receive more than $10,000
    89 accounts would receive more than $1000
    290 accounts would receive more than $10
    350 accounts would receive at least $1

Leader Board

    @blocktrades $17,463
    @nextgencrypto $16,450
    @services $16,120.97
    @cryptoctopus $14183
    @dantheman $12,288
    @dan $11,303
    @tuck-fheman $10,871
    @rollin $10,789

1587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: June 05, 2016, 09:12:53 AM
Any news on getting crypto kingdom gold on poloniex?

There was a counterparty asset was created by a community member to issue tokens that would be backed by CK HODLers fund (S-HODL in-game), which is 80-90% CKG (the rest being interest-bearing debt issued by the Town). The reason for doing it that way is that CKG pays dividends which would be difficult to handle in the case of a token, especially for tokens held on an exchange. S-HODL reinvests all dividends and interest payments, which converts them into token price appreciation.

However, very little effort went into actually trying to get the token listed on an exchange. The game master seems more interested in being the game master than dealing with such structural matters, which is his prerogative, but at the moment it looks like no one is actively working on an exchange listing.

If another community member wants to more aggressively pursue it, perhaps ownership of the existing counterparty token could be transferred, or a new one created.

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I'd like to buy some

You can do this by registering in the game. A foreign owned corporation character (which I think has a one time registration fee of 50 XMR, but you could possibly recover this later by reselling the character) does not need to deal with gameplay and can simply hold assets idle in the account at no ongoing cost.

If you do that I would recommend buying the S-HODL in-game asset instead of buying CKG directly for a few reasons, including that, as above, you won't need to deal with reinvesting dividends. If you hold CKG directly then you will get payments into your character account every week that will sit idle until you log in and reinvest (or withdraw) them.
1588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 05, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
but anyway coin has no investment value (yes, i read whitepaper )
if someone is mining they have dump immediately, coz they loosing fast  as zimbabwe's dollars

This is wrong twice.

First of all, miners can't dump. The mined coins (Steem Power) are locked for up to 2 years.

Second, Steem Power doesn't suffer the same high inflation as unlocked coins (Steem).

Nevertheless everyone should make up their own mind about mining and/or investment value. It may be a bad idea after all.

o post 3posts in 3days and result, for example 1 post created 3days ago has 5votes, earned 0.01$ (pending payout)
and just looked in "created" one post created 6mins ago and have 5votes and 303$ (pending payout)

Voting is stake-weighted (aka Steem Power). If you have hardly any stake then your votes aren't worth much. If you want more influence then you have to buy (or later earn) Steem Power.

Right now this means voting is dominated by whales. But that will change rapidly starting July 4 when the rewards start paying out. People who post or comment and get a lot of upvotes will then receive large payouts in Steem Power, regardless of their existing stake and without having to buy it. They will then start having a major influence in voting.

The idea is to automatically redistribute voting power out to the most productive and respected participants. Once there are a lot more people with big chunks of Steem Power than you won't be reliant on a small number of whales to get good upvotes; there will be many others who can do so as well.



what makes you think that there will be "large" payouts?

There have been some reports posted, with many people receiving thousands of Steem Power and some much more than that. If I have time later I will post links.

Any time you look on the site and see a dollar figure (and it isn't hard to find hundreds or thousands of dollars on a post), half of the amount paid will be in Steem Power (half to the author, half to voters). So a post or comment with a displayed reward of $2000 will pay out $500 worth of Steem Power (about 1500 SP currently) plus $500 in Steem Dollars to the author. And that is for one post. The payouts on July 4 will be the total of everything posted since the site went live beta. After July 4, payouts using the same methods will continue daily.

More broadly, every day 28800 Steem Power are allocated to be paid out for content. Most likely there will be multiple people receiving thousands of Steem Power every day for the most popular posts and comments, although how exactly it gets divided up depends on voting.

Of course, it is still in beta, problems may occur, calculations may be wrong, values may change based on market prices and usage, all crypto is experimental, nothing is guaranteed, etc., etc.

1589  Economy / Collectibles / Re: ❎ ~ LEALANA PHYSICAL SILVER MONERO (XMR) - 3-coin sets ~ ⭕️ on: June 05, 2016, 06:22:40 AM
Another part that needs to be added is to check if the key image(s) is/are unspent. This would have to happen for each output of the physical coin address that it was funded with to prove that a coin is funded.

It looks like the Monero onion explorer at http://xmrblocksvckbwvx.onion can be used to search for spent key images. Of course in this case you are trusting the operator of the site. Verifying it with your own node would be safer, though the functionality to do that currently doesn't exist in any developed utility afaik.
1590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 04, 2016, 10:58:37 PM
but anyway coin has no investment value (yes, i read whitepaper )
if someone is mining they have dump immediately, coz they loosing fast  as zimbabwe's dollars

This is wrong twice.

First of all, miners can't dump. The mined coins (Steem Power) are locked for up to 2 years.

Second, Steem Power doesn't suffer the same high inflation as unlocked coins (Steem).

Nevertheless everyone should make up their own mind about mining and/or investment value. It may be a bad idea after all.

o post 3posts in 3days and result, for example 1 post created 3days ago has 5votes, earned 0.01$ (pending payout)
and just looked in "created" one post created 6mins ago and have 5votes and 303$ (pending payout)

Voting is stake-weighted (aka Steem Power). If you have hardly any stake then your votes aren't worth much. If you want more influence then you have to buy (or later earn) Steem Power.

Right now this means voting is dominated by whales. But that will change rapidly starting July 4 when the rewards start paying out. People who post or comment and get a lot of upvotes will then receive large payouts in Steem Power, regardless of their existing stake and without having to buy it. They will then start having a major influence in voting.

The idea is to automatically redistribute voting power out to the most productive and respected participants. Once there are a lot more people with big chunks of Steem Power than you won't be reliant on a small number of whales to get good upvotes; there will be many others who can do so as well.

1591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: June 03, 2016, 07:28:25 PM
Where's smooth...there was an argument dozens of pages back of people arguing what the most cost effective CPU was for mining Monero.  Out of curiousity, was wondering if there was ever any consensus on that.  Also taking into account random shit people buy on ebay with a bunch cpu sockets and server cores.

Cost effectiveness is close between mid range GPUs and high-efficiency variant server- or SoC-style CPUs. The CPUs probably have a small edge there on H/W and the GPUs a larger edge on H/$ so pick your poison.

I don't really know what people buy on eBay but I do know there sometimes spectacular deals when huge volumes of 1-2 generation old servers are being dumped off their leases.

But mostly it doesn't really pay to buy equipment specifically to mine Monero (or much of anything?) unless it happens to be pumping. If you have the equipment, great, it might be worth using.
1592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: June 03, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
It sort of is.  The Poloniex trollbox is absolutely clueless nowadays.  There are people who believe "CasinoCoin" is a coin that will be adopted by casinos (lol).  People exist who believe the propaganda spread by paid shills that claimed Ethereum is not only legit and not a scam, but better than Bitcoin itself (it's a pump and dump scam like all premines and fundamentally broken to boot).  Individuals like Max Keiser wander in and pump Factcom to the moon as just a long shot gamble even though he has no idea if it's a viable system or not, which then attracts random noobs into thinking it might have value.  Then day traders create charts off those movements, which creates volume and more traders who think, "well, this here potatocoin has millions in market cap, it must be legit!"

Sounds just like gambling to me. Whether people have a better chance to make money in this game or the lottery is unclear.
1593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: June 03, 2016, 03:33:30 PM
The way I've looked at it is, you use your judgement to find the thing with the best fundamentals and you will be rewarded for it.

Yes, that explains the altcoin scene exceptionally well. Not!

In the end that will likely work, and yes there is a very good chance that turns out to be Bitcoin, but the level of activity you see in altcoin trading isn't consistent with other people pursuing that approach at all.

BTW, I have rarely if ever bought a coin for the purpose of flipping it. It may have happened (if I happen to see someone trying to give me money I will often allow them to do so), but I don't remember it. No doubt plenty do do that, which is exactly the gambling game you say is is 'smooth propaganda', but actually explains the observed behavior a lot better than your theory.

And as I've said before, I own more Bitcoin than alts and more fiat-based and hard assets than Bitcoin, which more or less reflects my assessment of their relative probabilities of being worth anything in the future.



1594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 03, 2016, 11:24:24 AM
It's overvalued crap and a pre-mine scam. It's as valuable as XRP, namely zero.

But Ripple had a market cap of $850 million. The markets can't be wrong, right?

FWIW, I'm not really as negative about Ethereum as many people, but the annoying Eth supporters who show up convinced their coin is going to "take BTC crown" are at least as annoying as the Ripple supporters were back then. The story, by the way, is much the same. Corporate support that Bitcoin will never have, etc., etc.

1595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 03, 2016, 04:40:00 AM
after two years this blogging projects could dont exist anymore

Could not agree more. Locking up value that long is high risk. Potentially high return, but no doubt whatsoever about high risk.

You could always try it out with a free account though. No risk there, other than maybe wasting a bit of your time.

1596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: June 02, 2016, 10:22:03 PM
it's hard to get away with the same trick twice

You must be new around here. I see the same tricks being used in crypto at least 5-10 times.

It is educational about how humans actually behave as compared to how you might think they'd behave, I'll say that.
1597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 02, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
@q327K091

Do you have more than one account set up in your mining config.ini file? When PoW is found for one account, you can't mine for that same account until that PoW reaches the front of the queue (roughtly 2 hours). If you have multiple accounts set up the miner will switch to the next one, otherwise it will idle.

BTW, as a reminder, if asking for troubleshooting help here or elsewhere, never post your mining config.ini file without first removing the private keys inside it.


thanks for the response! I have one account (witness) in config.ini  , I have several machines , each machine has own config.ini with one witness per config (and one brain key)

incredibly I had to liquidate AWS instance because of slow mining process (CPU's were witting idle, while AWS will fetch bill soo enough lol) it was just not worth it

so yeah one witness and one brain key.. and yet often one gets queued up , would be great CPU's would be used 100% non stop!

You need to add another (different) witness= and miner= line on each computer.

When one witness is busy (in the queue), it will switch to the next one, and your CPU will not go idle.

Do not use the same witness on two different computers.

So something like

witness="witness-1"
witness="witness-2"

miner=["witness-1","WIF1"]
miner=["witness-2","WIF2"]

Hope that helps.
1598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: June 02, 2016, 04:50:54 AM
@q327K091

Do you have more than one account set up in your mining config.ini file? When PoW is found for one account, you can't mine for that same account until that PoW reaches the front of the queue (roughtly 2 hours). If you have multiple accounts set up the miner will switch to the next one, otherwise it will idle.

BTW, as a reminder, if asking for troubleshooting help here or elsewhere, never post your mining config.ini file without first removing the private keys inside it.
1599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON 2nd gen cryptonote, anon, mobile-friendly, scalable, pruning on: June 02, 2016, 03:06:14 AM
With Bitcoin on the move again, I think cryptos will come in for more attention. Probably we will see new people looking at them too. Aeon has a lot going for it, including a Bittrex listing.

Call me crazy, but when I look at a coin I haven't looked at before the first thing I do is look for a website.

Is anyone else interested getting something going?

Yeah let's do it. How much of a bounty do people want to get it done?
1600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON 2nd gen cryptonote, anon, mobile-friendly, scalable, pruning on: June 02, 2016, 03:04:42 AM
When Aeon was "closed down" and later the exchange was changed from Polo to Trex...were any coins lost?

Not that I know of. Polo kept their wallet and manually handled withdrawals for people even after the delist. They still do afaik.
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