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1741  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: February 20, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
And why the very small amount of 9 thousand dollar from an already indentified customer would give any red flags regarding illegal activity? BIG LOL.
To be honest, $9000 is a pretty shady number in the world of AML/KYC.  Sad, but true.

It is not, it is not aimed at street drug dealers, it is aimed at political corruption, organized crime etc but it does not matter. Just to make sense of it all. Just ask youself if your bank, which must comply to KYC,  where you surely have more money and transactions has ever frozen your account or required invasive information about you under a treat. Ask your friends, ask your relatives, ask anyone. They all will say no! It does not happen 'cause it is not required and if you are in good stand with your bank it is even illegal to freeze an account without a judicial order.

The first bank ever to behave like Bitstamp will have its reputation ruined and will be in legal trouble.

At least here in EU, anything beyond 3K€ needs to be justified from/to bank per said periode of time ( a week I think) and the amount is even less depending on the country, I don't know about the US but I won't be surprised if there isn't something similar. Of course I'm talking about the average joe account, a professional business man, enterprise or commercent ect accounts are a different story
1742  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any ps3 emulators? on: February 20, 2014, 11:50:53 AM
XBOX 360, PS4 and XBO emulator are more possible than a supposed PS3 the architecture is too different and too complexe to emulate
1743  Other / Off-topic / Re: MtGox is The Boy Who Cried Wolf on: February 20, 2014, 11:47:54 AM
I fell like he is just trolling, and wasting peoples time
1744  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox Good News !!!! on: February 20, 2014, 09:42:33 AM
Relative IT Company ? Transfering BTC? and a new BCT account, lol well that sounds like a good news indeed /S
1745  Economy / Services / Re: Paid to translate OP on: February 20, 2014, 09:04:49 AM
Do you need french translation?
1746  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: February 20, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
Count me in

Posts count: 311
BTC Adress : 13TQEgpS1ENz76HGTwSFh8Xv6oqdvqdrRV

regards.
1747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitstampt suspend Bitcoin withdrawals on: February 11, 2014, 06:31:08 PM
Someone wants to drive the price down no matter what, or the guys that used to use the maleability issue to make profit, thinks it's a matter of time till they are found, and brought the big guns and are going nuclear before fixs are implemented and the whole txid is disregarded, anyway popcorn time ^^
1748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 1GH.COM - MMC / PTS / MAXCOIN Pool on: February 10, 2014, 10:13:55 PM

I am currently implementing the Maxcoin algorithm on cgminer 3.7 codebase, this should solve the crashes issue. The background here is that I have initially forked and fixed the version Maxcoin project has put on their github, but that one was 3.6-based, and 3.6 is prone to crashes and does not perform as well.

Regarding your CPU mining issues, would you plese PM me the address you mine with so I could do a little investigation?

great news, thanks, hopefully it will be ready soon
I have Linux Maxcoin build of another great cgminer fork running already, if you would like to try it before release, pull it from here: https://github.com/reorder/cgminer-3.7.2-kalroth

build with 'sh autogen.sh --enable-keccak --enable-opencl; make'

Sadly I use Windows, if you have a windows version, I can beta test it and give you a feedback
The binary on max.1gh.com page is updated to match, I have already some positive reports, please upgrade.

Thank you, I noticed after I wrote my response Smiley I've downloaded and setting it at the moment will give a feedback after running it for a couple of hours

I'll try the cudaminer aswell on my laptop

Edit: it works now
1749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 1GH.COM - MMC / PTS / MAXCOIN Pool on: February 10, 2014, 10:10:33 PM

I am currently implementing the Maxcoin algorithm on cgminer 3.7 codebase, this should solve the crashes issue. The background here is that I have initially forked and fixed the version Maxcoin project has put on their github, but that one was 3.6-based, and 3.6 is prone to crashes and does not perform as well.

Regarding your CPU mining issues, would you plese PM me the address you mine with so I could do a little investigation?

great news, thanks, hopefully it will be ready soon
I have Linux Maxcoin build of another great cgminer fork running already, if you would like to try it before release, pull it from here: https://github.com/reorder/cgminer-3.7.2-kalroth

build with 'sh autogen.sh --enable-keccak --enable-opencl; make'

Sadly I use Windows, if you have a windows version, I can beta test it and give you a feedback

Edit, Oh I see you guys already released a new version, thanks reorder I'll run trough the night and give you a feedback after a few hours
1750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 1GH.COM - MMC / PTS / MAXCOIN Pool on: February 10, 2014, 02:36:45 PM

I am currently implementing the Maxcoin algorithm on cgminer 3.7 codebase, this should solve the crashes issue. The background here is that I have initially forked and fixed the version Maxcoin project has put on their github, but that one was 3.6-based, and 3.6 is prone to crashes and does not perform as well.

Regarding your CPU mining issues, would you plese PM me the address you mine with so I could do a little investigation?

great news, thanks, hopefully it will be ready soon
1751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 1GH.COM - MMC / PTS / MAXCOIN Pool on: February 10, 2014, 07:36:22 AM
It doesn't crash as it used to do, I always find the program closed after a while (maybe it crash but without giving debug option) and it s way worse than it used, I will give it one more try before changing the pool, I had enough, dispite babysitting it I keep missing hours of mining.

   1gh miner conked out again just after I got into work this morning so no coin for me today, wtf! It seems to give me one coin then it crashes, I'm going to have to babysit this mo'fo all night. Spent two days getting the cpu miner to work using instructions Bletchley Park couldn't figure out and then I find people are already GPU mining!
We updated cgminer for Windows today, please redownload it and try again.

Thank you!

Sadly it still crash/force close even more than it used to be

Edit: I confirm the new cgminer client just close randomly and after a short while for me, anything from 1s to 20min max
1752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][MAX] MaxCoin on: February 07, 2014, 05:48:25 AM
Can anyone post a guide to how to solo mine with cudaminer on windows?

Thank you in advance for your help

It's not even worth it..

You need to add the parameters for your GPU in the bat launch command.

Launch wallet by double clicking on it. Then you can access the daemon by opening a new terminal (CMD), changing your CD to your daemon directory. Then you can do stuff like "maxcoind getinfo"..

Thanks for the help, I'll try and search for my gpu config for cuda miner I'll tell you if it works in a sec

Yeah I have no issue with the wallet appart from that I didn't succed cpu mine with it, and I can use the commands no problem, also an easier way to launch the cmd directly from the daemon folder (shift + right click in the folder and you'll have a new command on the right click list to launch cmd Cheesy )
1753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][MAX] MaxCoin on: February 07, 2014, 05:39:01 AM
Can anyone post a guide to how to solo mine with cudaminer on windows?

I've been trying to mine on my laptop with cudaminer for a while now without a success
Do I need to launch the wallet as server maxoind.exe --server ? (dont think the command is included)
my bat file has the following command is it right? or do I need to specify somethng else?
Code:
cudaminer --algo=keccak -o http://127.0.0.1:8108 -u user1 -p pass1

The error I'm getting is the following


I've changed port several times without a success...

there is the conf files that i'm using :

Code:
addnode=maxcoin.cloudapp.net
addnode=maxcoinus.cloudapp.net
addnode=maxcoinasia.cloudapp.net
addnode=maxexplorer.cloudapp.net
addnode=213.179.202.19
addnode=91.121.8.25
addnode=213.192.56.163:8334
addnode=107.170.15.110:8668
addnode=131.111.33.245:8668
addnode=137.116.204.146:8668
addnode=138.91.116.247:8668
addnode=144.76.107.81:8668
addnode=144.76.113.132:8668
addnode=144.76.238.140:8668
addnode=148.251.11.196:8668
addnode=162.251.118.42:8668
addnode=187.104.154.105:8668
addnode=162.243.98.115:8668
addnode=94.226.111.26:8668
addnode=108.166.119.210:8668
addnode=54.242.57.209:8668
addnode=109.204.130.61:8668
addnode=62.24.83.120:8668
addnode=107.170.0.102:8668
addnode=37.139.10.249:8668
addnode=62.210.162.235:8668
addnode=54.80.38.63:8668
addnode=54.196.40.143:8668
addnode=23.97.130.72:8668

# Enable RPC
rpcallowip=all
daemon=1
server=1
listen=1

# RPC information
rpcuser=user1
rpcpassword=pass1
rpcport=8108
# Mining
gen=0

Thank you in advance for your help
1754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cudaMiner - a new litecoin mining application [Windows/Linux] on: February 07, 2014, 05:08:28 AM

Well I didn't know there was a version for Maxcoin. But the error remains;



I'm having the exact same issue, did you manage to solve it? can anyone help with this ? Sad

Do I need to launch the wallet as a server? or just launch it as is? I also turned gen=0 (but even with gen=1) I coudn't mine on two different machines since I can't find nodes.

I also had this issue in the past with cudaminer but aftersearching for a couple of hours I gave up (since I only have an Nvidia card on my laptop)
When I used xptproxy to try ypool, it was mining, although it showed no shares of course (boo! and on xptproxy cmd it says algho unknown)

Thank you in advance for your help
1755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - NEW THREAD - FORK INCOMING AT BLOCK 21346 - Scrypt MEOW! on: February 06, 2014, 12:23:12 AM
I can certainly see development is in full swing, and I wouldn't in any way wish to deter people from continuing that. My only point is, it has felt like for some time now that Cat is in maintenance mode. Fear, uncertainty and doubt is to be expected, and I would stress that I do still have a stake in Catcoin, so I do still have faith in it. I'm concerned for all the right reasons.
Nullu - that's the point I'm trying to make here but I'm just plain getting run over.  We simply cannot 'just' implement any idea - whether a brand new one or one that works for other coins - because we are not a 30 second coin or a 6 minute coin (we need to test and confirm), and because it's more complex than just dropping in a block of code and pressing the 'compile' button.

Keep in mind - I keep saying it but it's just as true today as it was three days ago - the dev rolled-out CAT and then left.  We started having problems within days of release.  The first fork was rushed to keep cat alive.  The second fork came in conjunction with forming a new dev team, building testnets, creating the ability to compile all the wallets we need, finding, coding and testing options, and STILL we didn't have enough time to more than a partial fix.  This is the first code release with a Mac wallet!  Hell, none of us were involved in the original release - when Hozer identified himself as a 'code archaeologist' he wasn't kidding!  We're having to reinvent EVERYTHING here!  I'm working 14 hour days on CAT - others are as well, while juggling jobs, kids, and getting married.  

Bloody hell everyone - CAT's still alive and has been getting better and better from the start.  Take a bitch-break, let us work, and know that your pet suggestion WILL get a proper vetting and you and the community WILL get a full view of results.

Thanks in advance.
Bitch-break......pet solution
if only you've bothered to read some of other people replies instead of having wrong assumptions (reading doesn't take much......)

-Why are you (and others who are supporting KGW) so obstinate about KGW?
No I'm not obstinate about it because I want this solution implemented over other solutions no matter what, this is totally wrong! I've posted and kept posting alternative possible solutions, but since these solutions and any other proposed solution are just a plain theory and not faced to all the real world variables we don't know for sure that they will work and how much they'll break before fixing something (aka look at current solution that was supposed to work and was tested on the testnet ( this is not to disregard the test net, and Thanks to the person who invested in a VPS for it) and had been simulated over and over again which as explained above not enough to simulate real world conditions) this is the opposite of KGW, KGW is implemented in real coins and it works! this is why I believe it's the solution to solve the current critical situation (urgent) and this solution will give us the opportunity to work out our own solution with no stress and time constraint, and this is what I'm obstinated about, it's to have a solid plan and proceed in steady steps as I've said before rather than just rushing another fix which might just make matter even worse than they are


the rest of your reply was also answered in that same post.
1756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - NEW THREAD - FORK INCOMING AT BLOCK 21346 - Scrypt MEOW! on: February 05, 2014, 10:49:28 PM
No you are not. your acts =/= that picture poeple are that naif really, not even once you've considered KGW as a legitimate solution and discussed it properly, all I saw here, #catcoin-dev #catcoin-code ##catcoin whatever is one line SMA nothing else and reserver/concerners denials of KGW! and skillface proposed double SMA but it ended at that and fell free to prove me wrong!
Enough Kuroman.  Now you are simply lying.

I have been in #catcoin-dev nearly 24/7 and the LAST THING HAPPENING is anyone fighting over their pet algo!  We have right now as I type this one dev coding a full process control system.  I'm coding a double SMA.  Etblvu1 is working on others - including a 5 tail SMA idea he had.

I told you over and over and over that your frakking KGW suggestion IS one of the options being evaluated.  I've also told you over and over that if you keep shoving it in my face I'm going to burn the damn paper and tell you to take a hike.  stop the lies, stop the FUD, stop the personal attacks or we'll bring in moderators.  Please go somewhere else, drink some tea, do some deep breathing, and LET US WORK.

Lying ? I am #catcoin-dev 24/7 and I post the chat log + screen shots (so there is no room to say I lied. So are you going to call me a liar aswell now even if I provide the definitive prove than I am not the one lieing here ?

And what about sticking to the point and bringing some decent arguments against the proposed solutions you know the one that are outside your SMA solution.


As I said, I have never seen you in #catcoin-dev.  If you are in fact in the channel, then you are hiding behind another handle and you are not participating there.

As for your argument request, I have already told you - TWICE!  That we are working through a process.  We don't have data yet for all the solutions - we're working them as quickly as we have bodies working on them.  Here's a suggestion, instead of running your mouth here, maybe YOU could be providing testnet data for YOUR proposal the same way others are working on theirs?

I don't have any more time to waste with you, Kuroman.  I have to get back to work.  I don't have day-care skills, sorry for my shortcomings.

Andy

I am hiding under another handle and I'm not participating to any of the conversations and I said this before and a couple of times and I stated my reasons and One of this reasons is being demonstrated right now!, people moves easly from a respect based conversation based on arguments facts and numbers to insults and threats once they are out of arguments, also if I recall correctly I was called a liar just a few poste before what happened to that? And if you see me rising my ton a bit it is because I am well aware of the current situation and I'll leave it at that.


FYI, I'm pretty sure I was one of the very first to propose KGW in the original thread. I was proposing it some time before the second fork.

All of this technical data is great, but it feels like the joy's been sucked out of the room. Catcoin was fun when it started. Bring that back, and I'm on board.

Exactly, and I think you were the first person to propose it If I remember correctly.
1757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - NEW THREAD - FORK INCOMING AT BLOCK 21346 - Scrypt MEOW! on: February 05, 2014, 10:31:17 PM
No you are not. your acts =/= that picture poeple are that naif really, not even once you've considered KGW as a legitimate solution and discussed it properly, all I saw here, #catcoin-dev #catcoin-code ##catcoin whatever is one line SMA nothing else and reserver/concerners denials of KGW! and skillface proposed double SMA but it ended at that and fell free to prove me wrong!
Enough Kuroman.  Now you are simply lying.

I have been in #catcoin-dev nearly 24/7 and the LAST THING HAPPENING is anyone fighting over their pet algo!  We have right now as I type this one dev coding a full process control system.  I'm coding a double SMA.  Etblvu1 is working on others - including a 5 tail SMA idea he had.

I told you over and over and over that your frakking KGW suggestion IS one of the options being evaluated.  I've also told you over and over that if you keep shoving it in my face I'm going to burn the damn paper and tell you to take a hike.  stop the lies, stop the FUD, stop the personal attacks or we'll bring in moderators.  Please go somewhere else, drink some tea, do some deep breathing, and LET US WORK.

Lying ? I am on #catcoin-dev 24/7 (not nearly but 24/7! I keep it on even when I'm away so I don't miss a thing!) and I can post the chat logs + screen shots want me to do so? (so there is no room to say I lied. So are you going to call me a liar aswell now even if I provide the definitive prove than I am not the one lyng here ?

And what about sticking to the point and bringing some decent arguments against the proposed solutions you know the one that are outside your SMA solution. and how about counter aguing what I said before?
1758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - NEW THREAD - FORK INCOMING AT BLOCK 21346 - Scrypt MEOW! on: February 05, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
Pfft stuff Gravity Well, I found a better solution.

<snip>

So this is the level of conversation we are having right now?


Kuroman - you are the one that appears to be having a hearing problem.  

It is not helpful when you blame others for things you are doing.  Skillface posted a bloody cat picture - you're the one having the religious crisis.  Knock it off!  Third notice, mate...

So this is your factual argument(s)? this is the demonstration you have, the numbers? the math? ressorting to insults and also do I hear some threatening in your words? third notice what? go ahead and show us what are you going to do.
1759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - NEW THREAD - FORK INCOMING AT BLOCK 21346 - Scrypt MEOW! on: February 05, 2014, 10:12:39 PM
kuro, I don't think that the community is going to reach a consensus on a copy/paste implementation of KGW, for a couple reasons:
Of course there will never be a consensus as long as there are people that doesn't want to compromise and only believe that their way of thinking is the only way to go rejecting and deniying anything else outside their ideas, not to mention the discussions here and the old thread when the fork was initiated I saw some heated discussion on the irc channel rejecting people and even insulting them, and I am not the only one who's thinking this, alot of people that were proposing alternative ideas are not anymore for this same reason ( I know this since I had a similar reaction when the fork idea was initiated and when it was obviously too late and became counter productive to suggest ideas when the code reached the test phase and become ready to deploy )
Kuroman - I tried to make clear to you yesterday that we are working through a logical process to improve CAT.  Compromise does not mean: "Forcing your own pet project over all options".

Not like I didn't post the list a few days ago, or did mention the coins that have a 6min block time but it doesn't really matter, as I said before I'm pretty sure even if there was an 8min a 9 min or even 9min 30 block target time coin you'll denie the effect of KGW for the sake of deniying it and you will say the same thing.
While heartwarming, your 'pretty sure' is NOT good enough.  Earlier folks were 'pretty sure' the first fork would be the fix.  The team was 'pretty sure' that this current code would be an 80% solution.  Opinions are worth very little at the moment.

And for the last time - and for the record - please note:



As I've already told you - the ONLY thing that will get KGW pulled from the rotation prior to testing is if people acting like religious zealots continue to clog this thread with KGW-themed butt-hurt attacks on ANY other member of this community or the dev team.  If you want to help, we're working in the dev channel.  If you choose to stay here and complain, please take it to a doge forum.

Andy

No you are not. your acts =/= that picture poeple aren't that naif really, not even once you've considered KGW as a legitimate solution and discussed it properly, all I saw here, #catcoin-dev #catcoin-code ##catcoin whatever is one line SMA nothing else and reserver/concerners denials of KGW! and skillface proposed double SMA but it ended at that and fell free to prove me wrong!

As for the rest of your comment we are just repeating our selfs, I've answered that a couple of times I've even repeated my self again on the comment above/ previous page and here click here if you are lazy or don't know which one
if you a real argument to add against KGW it would be nice to have it.


Thanks Envy - another option noted and in queue.  One thing we're finding with any of the single-SMA options is that they WILL converge and stabilize if left alone, but they continue to oscillate in the real world.  The current code still overshoots on the high side, and we need to make sure that we stay away from our very low diffs.

This is an example of etblvu1's work:



That's how 36SMA12 was supposed to converge, just instead of linear a linear evolution block to block you have exponential factors, and you are well informed on the current situation of 36SMA12 right now, I've been repeating this for a couple of time aswell, the simulation is great, BUT it has limited set of parameters while the real life conditions are different, and When we talk about simulations vs real life I know very well what I'm talking about.
1760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - NEW THREAD - FORK INCOMING AT BLOCK 21346 - Scrypt MEOW! on: February 05, 2014, 10:03:23 PM
Pfft stuff Gravity Well, I found a better solution.



So this is the level of conversation we are having right now?

Anti-KGW arguments so far:

-It's a black box, it's black magic!
It's even funny when you add the fact that these same people didn't bother to look it up before and I've posted everything to be able to have an objectif judgement about it, but anyway KGW is based on a single math formula that is applied dynamically, I've posted the formula behind it,And also the code behind it, so no it's not a blackbox

-But wait what does the numbers mean ? why 0.7084 or -1.228?
I provided an answer to this, those numbers are scientific constantes (thermodynamics and consmolgy) and obviously if you didn't figure it by now Kimoto seems to be inspired by fundamental physics in his work hence the gravity well, event horizon blackholes....., after testing the numbers they worked and were adopted, and wasn't you guys who were promoting arbitrary numbers such as 36 and 12% saying that the testing will judge these numbers ?


-Wait wait wait, but how can we be so sure that KGW will not bring issues to the coin ? this is a major concern and this is the reason why we can't proceed with KGW.
There are at least a dozen of coins that adopted KGW and almost every new coin is released with it, with a date of adaption vareying from 2 months + to a few hours/min and more to come of course as many coins are annouced with it, KGW proved to work perfectly without adding any issue to these coins!

-No it can't be our coin is very different than other coins, we have a very lonnnnnnnng 10min block target time so no it will not work for sure!
KGW worked for every coin with a block time ranging from 30s or 1/2min to 6min with every coin having unique set of parameters (number of coins, coins per block halfing time ...ect) KGW worked 100% of the time and perfectly, I also remind you that the difference between 30s or 0.5min and 6min is 12x and the difference between 6min is 10min is less than 1.667 so in our case the behaviour at 10min won't be any different than 6min (6 is very close to 10 in this scall 12x>>>>1.67).
If you use any extrapolation law and probability law, KGW will have around 90% rate of succeding AS IS and over 99.9% to work if the parametes are tweaked and adapted (this is just probability calculus and math is absolute)


-It can't be!? Aha gotya now! since all these coins will use this similar small piece of alghorithm it will mean that it will be a target for hackers
lol No! the whole altcoin system is based on copying bitcoin, 99% of code you see on other altcoin is copied from bitcoin/litecoin (except new algo PoW/PoS coins) which means that there is a huge chunk of code that is used by all the cryptocurrencies while KGW is just started to spread for the last month or two, so this assumption is stupid on it self.

-Nah all these devs are using this KGW because they are lazy and stupid and there is no merite to the solution!
Are fcking kidding me? we are starting to get to self denial zone here like the little kid who close his ears with his hands and start screaming I don't hear you and start yealling, well let me tell you: there are devs that understand code better than any of us, and can weight the merite of the solution better than any of us, these  devs that you call lazy, developped some innovative coins that uses new alghorithms altogether and new code (lazy huh?), and choose the KGW because it is by far the best solution available.

- KGW is just bandaid fix
lol! it's a fix that works end of story

-We don't want to consider it because we can't weight the issues it can bring in the future.
This is a legitimate concern but the answer to this was already given! KGW been used on some coins for over than 2 months now and it behaves as it supposed to be without briging any issue! longterm and in real life conditions! and if you were this wize to begin with we woudn't be having this discussing I believe, euh hint blockchain n°3 or n°4 and more to come? and not going to elaborate more on this because you know what I'm talking about and this is really no joke

-"I feel smart ! I can descredit this people by posting a joke"
Speaking of joke see last paragraph, I doubt we have the time to joke around with the current situation and I fear that some don't understand the responsability they have on their hand, let me just remind you that some people have invested dozens of thousands of €s on this coin what are you playing with right now is these guys money and I'm sure they aren't appreciating/won't appreaciate the current situation and some people will be held accountable for this, just saying.

-Why are you (and others who are supporting KGW) so obstinate about KGW?
No I'm not obstinate about it because I want this solution implemented over other solutions no matter what, this is totally wrong! I've posted and kept posting alternative possible solutions, but since these solutions and any other proposed solution are just a plain theory and not faced to all the real world variables we don't know for sure that they will work and how much they'll break before fixing something (aka look at current solution that was supposed to work and was tested on the testnet ( this is not to disregard the test net, and Thanks to the person who invested in a VPS for it) and had been simulated over and over again) this is the opposite of KGW, KGW is implemeted in real coins and it works! this why I believe it's the solution to solve the current critical situation and this is solution will give us the opportunity to work out our own solution with not stress and time constraint, and this is what I'm obstinated about, it to have a solid plan and proceed and steam steps as I've said before

-How about implementing Pheonixcoin solution ?
Why not? BUT like I said previously and it seems that you didn't bother to read, is that Pheonixcoin did not suffer from profitability a month before and only once or twice after their fork and during mid december (the coin wasn't tradable on cryptsy for a long periode of time which means and this was the reason the why profitability pools didn't push on it at all) so pheonixcoin = Bad example, their fix wasn't stressed to prove it works.
Also are you contradicting your own principales, euh weren't you saying "lazy copy solution no good" then now "pheonixcoin solution works we should implement that"  double standards much?!.


As you can see every single of your pseudo-arguments has been proven wrong. Hope this will help, and brings some enlightement to your way of proceeding and thinking, and I'm sure any reasonnable person will do and some of you are, but at the same time I'm sure there are one or two persons, with a huge inflated ego, (they'll recon themselves)  this will refuse categorically common sense and will keep doing the same little kid attitude of closing ears with hands and screaming "I DONT HEAR YOU"
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