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1821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 27, 2016, 07:29:37 AM
Eintracht Frankfurt  vs  Ingolstadt
Borussia Monchengladbach  vs  VfB Stuttgart

Well 2 games is not too difficult to predict  home teams are  better than their opponents by rank and position in the standings Frankfurt and Monchengladbach  seems to win easily suitable for parlay  I'll go with these two teams.
No i dont think so , ingolstadt can make anotger surprising result after draw 3-3 previously against dortmund.
I will avoid to bet money line in this match , prefer to bet half time draw.
And for borussia monchengladbach i agree no way home team will lost.

It wasnt really a draw and actually if you watch the game then you can see that they deserve to win after owning dortmund at the first half with 2 goals and that is very surprising. Things like that doesnt really happen against dortmund as they usually dominate the league so it was really surprising and actually they deserved to win
Yeaaa i know it they are leading at first half but they cannot hold it till the end of the match.
This is how contrast the difference between a mediocre teams and a top teams.
Dortmund have a lot of experience on how to handle left 2-0 and make it a great come back to draw 3-3. Unfortunately they get another bad luck lost 4-1 on penalty after 0-0 in normal time. What a bad week for ingolstadt.
1822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What stuff you buy when you win gambling? on: October 27, 2016, 07:04:26 AM
When I win in gambling I prefer to keep the money on gambling site in order to make bigger bets or bet on more matchs later, and sometimes I withdraw the money to make some investments or buy few altcoins if I found a good opportunity.
Make a coumpound in gambling actually is not a good idea imo , just withdraw it while you can.
Or you will regret later , as gambling in the long run always provide you a lost everyone know it.
Cashed out and buy some drinks then start from zero capital again , that is the best decision for me.
i like that idea, after winning withdraw and enjoy your earnings, making your life happy and buy some stuff that can bring joy to you
don't go back to the game because like what most of us experience if greediness eat us for sure those winnings will be burned again
ending us empty pocket.
Yeaaa i think people must do this to at least not get stressed because gambling that always make them upset.
Gamble in the long run always finished to something negative profit no matter how large your bankroll.
So just collect your winning once you gifted a win , it is the only way to break your bad result in the long run. Buy something that make you happy , a good foods usually can do it.
1823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 27, 2016, 06:45:46 AM
Gambling is addicting if experienced to win an amount triple the amount you already bet from it. Once you tried it and lose at first, you became open minded on how to do some strategies as you gained experienced from it. The addiction will start on the time that you started to try and try until you win something. The feeling of seeing someone winning after losing makes you think that it will happen to you too, until you never stop trying just to earn something. The influence and pressure of environment force you to try again.
That's what you call beginners luck, sometimes when we experience luck, we feel that we can beat the system already and we can make easy money and then we go back again to win some more, but that is just a strategy of the gambling sites to attract gamblers and eventually when we lose control we will be addicted.
Addiction come to someone when they do something continuously and so often.
In gambling you are hooked by how comfortable you are playing a game and get money at same time.
This make you do gamble continuously no matter what the outcome you get you will keep chasing.
I do not want to experience that kind of situation again as I have already been addicted in the past and it is not easy to look for money every time you get busted, I realize that gambling is really for fun to minimize my loses and maybe one day when I look for the profit, I should start prepared with a big bankroll.
Yeaaa first of all you need to think like what a casino or house edge thinks.
I mean , while you get 3 times streaks bet lost on red most people will think the next one will be red again! This is most loser think.
Now try to think such as casino/house edge while you get streaks lost like that , never think like "the next one is my turn , and it will be red again" but think different and think like you are a casino owner that want to make pofit. You may will not get addicted too easy.
1824  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 27, 2016, 06:34:05 AM
You can better not hold your bitcoins that long becuas ei know for sure that onther poeple dont want to let you hold yur bitcoins that long i dont understand why people think about that.

That's for sure, if you are going to hold your bitcoins today and you are going to wait for more price increase then for sure you are going to get good profit out of it. That's why I'm keep on holding for a longer time already because I believe that I will get decent profit after the price increase, just be patient and you will get profit.

Those who are holding coins and waiting for an increase in Bitcoin price this is the right time to sell your coins. Today the Bitcoin price cross 670$. So maybe this weekend it will cross 700$. I am keep watching market price when I feel that the price is high I will sell my coins. Don't know what happen next week am I right?
Too early to sell your bitcoin now ,or even some people think to never sell their bitcoin ever.
You seems really new to bitcoin lured by a little jump price and hurry to sell it .
I will keep holding for now , as i consider bitcoin more than just long term investment.
1825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What stuff you buy when you win gambling? on: October 26, 2016, 10:59:09 AM
When I win in gambling I prefer to keep the money on gambling site in order to make bigger bets or bet on more matchs later, and sometimes I withdraw the money to make some investments or buy few altcoins if I found a good opportunity.
Make a coumpound in gambling actually is not a good idea imo , just withdraw it while you can.
Or you will regret later , as gambling in the long run always provide you a lost everyone know it.
Cashed out and buy some drinks then start from zero capital again , that is the best decision for me.
1826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 26, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
You can consider it as gambling I have no doubts about it and I also think it is a sort of gambling to be honest because its like gambling with the risks it has these days.
Trading considered as gambling not just about taking risk on both.
But also things make both similar is when you have to make a guess and prediction on an uncertain outcome / price.
People too quick to make a judgement , it is obviously different if you are really a trader you will feel it and know it.
1827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 26, 2016, 07:31:15 AM
Gambling is addicting if experienced to win an amount triple the amount you already bet from it. Once you tried it and lose at first, you became open minded on how to do some strategies as you gained experienced from it. The addiction will start on the time that you started to try and try until you win something. The feeling of seeing someone winning after losing makes you think that it will happen to you too, until you never stop trying just to earn something. The influence and pressure of environment force you to try again.
That's what you call beginners luck, sometimes when we experience luck, we feel that we can beat the system already and we can make easy money and then we go back again to win some more, but that is just a strategy of the gambling sites to attract gamblers and eventually when we lose control we will be addicted.
Addiction come to someone when they do something continuously and so often.
In gambling you are hooked by how comfortable you are playing a game and get money at same time.
This make you do gamble continuously no matter what the outcome you get you will keep chasing.
1828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 26, 2016, 07:08:42 AM
In the game of craps, experience is a plus. Combined with discipline, proper bankroll management and a deeper than average knowledge of the game, one will know to look for the best value tables and the best bets to make - ie, playing at a 5x-4x-3x free odds bet table where the house edge per bet made is 0.00374% and the house edge per roll is 0.00111%
but still , at some point there is a bet for example have a chance for you to win for sure 90% but it just lost.
you still need a luck no matter what , skills and experience is just additional.
to make your bet in gambling close to a winning then experience is required but not really necessary.

Luck is everything, it's that X factor that makes you the money. You can make all the statistics as you want but like you said before, if you have 90% chances to win, the amount won is smaller, therefore you still need to take a lot of rolls and once of them will make you lose big.
Luck is not everything actually , i don't agree with it.
It is just take a major role on determining your bet no matter on how much percentage to win.
If luck really everything in gambling then you dont need any experience , you dont need to adjust your bet etc.
The luck and experience will not help anyone in gambling to make profits consistently. Sometimes luck or experience may become as one of the reason for making profits. Nothing is matter in gambling in my experience, because making profit from gambling is not at all possible.
Yeaa you can not see a real proof on how luck or experience help anyone to win in gambling.
But you can feel it how luck everytime save you from a homeless losing big money and a luck give you unexpected result on impossible winning.
Tell me if you have ever experience something like that?
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 26, 2016, 03:43:01 AM
Both big teams Manchester City and United were so bad yesterday and I lost my money on them, totally nonsense made those into their encounter and it was very bad to place bet on them.
City is a good team where we can place bet but with a +1.
And I don't understand why you bet on Man. United when you see his bad start in Premier league and the incredible form of Chelsea.
i thought the game will just finished draw , but a 33 seconds goal make everything gone wild.
the ball always on chelsea side and manchester united full of unlucky.
however chelsea deserve to win that large difference margin winning , entertaining match yesterday.
It was a very bad performance from manchester united, how can chelsea already scored within 33 second? Very very bad defense line from manchester united, their formation is very weak and undiscipline, it's a chaotic defense, and seems like their performance is getting worse day by day
Really unexpected , 4-0 is too much for a big match such as chelsea vs manchester united.
A very bad record for first 9 match of mourinho with manchester united it was worse than louis van gaal previously.
Don't know if manchester united have a plan to sack mourinho early? It will just give mourinho another compensation money.
1830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 26, 2016, 02:58:14 AM
staying away from gambling is really hard thing to do as gambling addiction is often very strong one, base of staying away is to don't think about it and don't try to gamble at all

For me that is going to be an easy thing if you have the will power and willingness to quit gambling for real. And the most easiest way to do is to focus more with other things so that your attention that is being caught by gambling will be exerted into other important things. Just to have quality time with your family so that you will forget gambling for real.

Correct. The more you spend your precious time with other things that are worth doing and by just even realizing this, you will have more chances to finally quit gambling. Because it takes change to change. If you remain static and still betting regularly, you will not be able to stay away from gambling - that is the hard and cold fact!.
Yeaaa as gambling is considered as a habit then it must be resisted by another habit.
Save your time to another activity , make it as your new habit and do it as often as possible.
With this method you might could stay away for a while from gambling and slowly but sure you might will quit forever from gambling.
1831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 25, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Eintracht Frankfurt  vs  Ingolstadt
Borussia Monchengladbach  vs  VfB Stuttgart

Well 2 games is not too difficult to predict  home teams are  better than their opponents by rank and position in the standings Frankfurt and Monchengladbach  seems to win easily suitable for parlay  I'll go with these two teams.
No i dont think so , ingolstadt can make anotger surprising result after draw 3-3 previously against dortmund.
I will avoid to bet money line in this match , prefer to bet half time draw.
And for borussia monchengladbach i agree no way home team will lost.
1832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 25, 2016, 01:26:24 PM
In the game of craps, experience is a plus. Combined with discipline, proper bankroll management and a deeper than average knowledge of the game, one will know to look for the best value tables and the best bets to make - ie, playing at a 5x-4x-3x free odds bet table where the house edge per bet made is 0.00374% and the house edge per roll is 0.00111%
but still , at some point there is a bet for example have a chance for you to win for sure 90% but it just lost.
you still need a luck no matter what , skills and experience is just additional.
to make your bet in gambling close to a winning then experience is required but not really necessary.

Luck is everything, it's that X factor that makes you the money. You can make all the statistics as you want but like you said before, if you have 90% chances to win, the amount won is smaller, therefore you still need to take a lot of rolls and once of them will make you lose big.
Luck is not everything actually , i don't agree with it.
It is just take a major role on determining your bet no matter on how much percentage to win.
If luck really everything in gambling then you dont need any experience , you dont need to adjust your bet etc.
1833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: October 25, 2016, 01:15:01 PM
Well, I think everyone who has ever played gambling, must have tried every game is concerned with gambling. even a slot game, and I'm sure many people are craving for the game. however, I am not too fond of slot games, because I might have hooked follow sports betting which has a greater potential to win
Slots machine is the highest odds and house edge compared to another gambling games .
And it was the only thing that i did not like on slots , too hard to win as the house edge / odds so high.
But once you hit a jackpot and of course this is rare thing happened on slots , you can win up to 9900 times of your initial deposit.
1834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 24, 2016, 10:40:49 AM
Both big teams Manchester City and United were so bad yesterday and I lost my money on them, totally nonsense made those into their encounter and it was very bad to place bet on them.
City is a good team where we can place bet but with a +1.
And I don't understand why you bet on Man. United when you see his bad start in Premier league and the incredible form of Chelsea.
i thought the game will just finished draw , but a 33 seconds goal make everything gone wild.
the ball always on chelsea side and manchester united full of unlucky.
however chelsea deserve to win that large difference margin winning , entertaining match yesterday.
1835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 24, 2016, 10:21:01 AM
Leipzig have had an amazing start to the season, I didn't expect this. They are only 2 points behind Bayern, surely they won't hold this position all season?
it could be , if a teams such as schalke , borussia dortmund and wolfsburg did not get better.
this season could be the unique season in bundesliga where an underdogs on top 5 and the favourites behind them.
but i still believe borussia dortmund can get better after awful draw 3-3 to Ingolstadt.
1836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: October 24, 2016, 09:59:41 AM
No....One should never risk more than they can afford to lose....ever.  Bankroll management discipline is the key factor to maintaining a positive return on one's gambling investments.  Develop a sound bankroll management strategy and stick to it!  Let the size of your bankroll determine the size of your bets and stay disciplined.
Yeah its correct dont put a higher bets because you are rich this is not a valid reason and you break your momentum and your management in your game that can make you more loses in gambling
i agree with the opinion to not put higher bet , adjust it to your total bankroll.
for example only take 3% of total bankroll you have to bet , manage it to gaining to certain amount and set as a goal.
with this way you maybe still have a chance to become rich slowly instead put a higher bet.
1837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 24, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
AC Milan vs Juventus I think Juventus has chance to win this match because it is more stronger, AC Milan will be into huge pressure to face the best side, that is why I have my bet on Juventus.
common gambler will pick juventus no wonder .
but how about to pick ac milan to win against juventus this time? Giuseppe Meazza is horrible stadium for juventus.
i expect juventus lost and ac milan keep on the winning streaks track. picked ac milan moneyline @4.4 goodluck!
That's what Vincenzo Montella want San Siro to do, fully utilize the crowd effect and apply the fear to Juventus players, their opponent must be feel like walking into the “lion cage". Allegri said they gonna play back four ,Barzagli, Evra, Benatia and Bonucci on press conference. They don't usually play this formation, maybe they try to be more defensively this time.
I'm on the red and black side too, but I go for AC Milan +0.5 @ 1.94 to lower the risk.
picked ac milan to win @4.4 and then they make it happen!
Giuseppe Meazza really a graveyard for juventus , they lost two times there from ac milan and inter milan.
think such as what bookies thinking to bet and you will always win Cheesy .
1838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you save money while playing gambling games? on: October 24, 2016, 09:34:17 AM
Hello! i want to save money while playing gambling game but i cant really do it because i am really addicted to bitcoin still i have small amount of money to save in my wallet but in the next day i spend it for gambling because i'll always lose in gambling games can someone help me with saving in my wallet and play gambling games at the same time. 

Just go away from gambling sites because it will kill you in long run, there is no space for a addicted person and he have no life, I don't think you can save money while playing on gambling sites.
never work , if you think you can do save and keep gambling.
as people around here many times have discussed about how casino and house edge play against you and always winning in the end.
we as a gambler always in the wrong side every time , and lost it in the end so never mind it will not work.
1839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 22, 2016, 03:48:14 PM
AC Milan vs Juventus I think Juventus has chance to win this match because it is more stronger, AC Milan will be into huge pressure to face the best side, that is why I have my bet on Juventus.
common gambler will pick juventus no wonder .
but how about to pick ac milan to win against juventus this time? Giuseppe Meazza is horrible stadium for juventus.
i expect juventus lost and ac milan keep on the winning streaks track. picked ac milan moneyline @4.4 goodluck!
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: October 22, 2016, 03:28:12 PM
Of course it can be. All you have to do is become the house. If you become the house, the house edge will work for you. In time, you will make guaranteed profits. Just put a limit on max bet amount and secure you website well and you will be fine.

The title didn't say anything about being a player or a casino owner so i chose to comment as a casino owner Smiley
so you think being a casino owner is part of gambling right?
hmmm i guess it could be , as the casino owner staked their money too , to get a profit.
but as casino have a house edge and it was the benefit of course the casino owner will get profit in long term almost guaranteed.
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