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1861  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 18, 2012, 05:25:44 PM
Well of Patrick Harttnet, Nefario, Pirate et all all have scammer tags now, I'd guess you'd have one too if it were true.  So I guess the trolls/puppets can say all they want.

[i'm not familiar with the history]
1862  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Pay for DDOS Protection with Bitcoin! BlackLotus on: November 18, 2012, 05:22:46 PM
Tony,  That's great news.

Are you aware of this.

http://www.000webhost.com/directory/reviews/blacklotus.net

If it's true it makes sense they want to accept non reversible bitcoin.

I love the fact that you are expanding your business (an congrats on the WP deal!)

But i hope it is for the right reasons.

1863  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: November 18, 2012, 05:08:52 PM
Then maybe it's time to revisit.  Anyone care to read this thread and summarize.
1864  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is he trying to scam me? on: November 18, 2012, 04:41:55 PM
Here is another scamming attempt by our friend harrison hower.  He uses many of the tactics discussed in Tomoatocage's post.

victim:.
I'd like to sell a total quantity of 10 Bitcoins in exchange for
Paypal (USD) and I'm looking for a price of Negotiable .

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Hey ill buy 10 bitcoins for 11 paypal usd

victim:.
sure send to xxxx@gmail.com and post your BTC address here.

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
alright its 1AwbR5HeqjtyiXMSNuxSN3tc2R6hEUzWyB
SCAMMER TACTIC: you send first and they disappear.

victim:.
ok all set. Send PP to xxxx@gmail.com. Thanks.
NOTE: always ask for payment for BTC first unless you know or trust the buyer/seller

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
ok

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
did you send coins?

victim:.
not yet. The are not reversible. You should send the PP first. Thank you.

victim:.
xxxx@gmail.com

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
ok

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Sorry i never send first and im rated on many bitcoin trading sites.
TACTIC:  Higher rating/false statements (“many bitcoin trading sites” – which ones??)

victim:.
I never send bitcoin first. I always send paypal first. that is the rule in bitcoin. Are you new here?

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
About a week old on this site but been trading bitcoins for a couple months.

victim:.
then you should not that paypal always sends first. Once I send you the BTC they are not reversible. Thanks.

victim:.
Are you sending. I have another offer

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
I can do it so the paypal money will not be reversible.
Send me a invoice and put no refunds or disputes allowed, thats usually what i do for my trades. If you dont want to do that then you can go to the other offer.
NOTE: ALL PAYPAL TRANSACTIONS ARE REVERSIBLE.  DOES NOT MATTER HOW YOU SEND.


victim:.
ok sent

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
you still need to send the bitcoins then ill send the paypal and it cant be reversed
TACTIC: trying to speak authoritatively about something which they have not clue.
ALL PAYPAL TRANSACTIONS ARE REVERSABLE.


victim:.
oh no. I can't do that. I just told you I would not dispute in the invoice.
 Please send the paypal and I'll send the BTC.
I already have your address in my client. Thank you

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Sorry i dont work that way its just my safety policy.

victim:.
Are you BTCmixers on IRC
did you scam Manes out of a 170 money pack?

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
no


MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
No i am Glooboy
TACTIC: Nic Squatting.  Pretending to be someone reputable in the community.  If I really wanted to trade with this guy I would have told him to hop on irc, authenticate and if it really was his and his rep was acceptable, I’d send first. (I may ask others I trust about him before I trade if I never heard of this nic)

victim:.
oh you've got good ratings

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
ya i told you ive been doing this for a while
TACTIC: I’m got more experience so you should trust me.

victim:.
ok cool we've traded before on irc.
So go ahead and send paypal and I'll send BTC.
You the one who always says paypal send first. lol

victim:.
Glooboy, I didn't get it yet. Did you send??

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
I just recently stopped doing that because i ran my tests and i lost more money by getting scammed when i didnt go first.
Its my new policy im sorry but it safer for me and my customers.
TACTIC:  “Ran my tests”  WHAT TESTS?  Scammers are expert if not pathological liars.


victim:.
Dude, that's a little sketch. You talking like a scammer. lol
come on just send. I gotta hop.


MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
I told you my tests say i have more profit at the end of the month. Im sorry im just a little tight on cash flow and im trying to maximize it.

victim:.
wait, why aren't you using your glooboy account here??

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
IRC and this site are both different. And when i tried to use the name glooboy on here someone already stole it. I was really pist.
TACTIC: Scammers have a shady excuse for everything.

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Are we going to do otherwise i got to find another person.
TACTIC: Rushing the trade. SCAMMERS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS IMPATIENT.

victim:.
no you have glooboy here too. What's this mike johnson shit??


MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Im not that glooboy on the website the guy is trying to take my ratings.

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Mike Johnson is my real name btw.

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Alright so no deal?

victim:.
Let me hope on irc an ping you.

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
victim:.
Dude your on a path to nowhere either now or never.
TACTIC: once I suggest IRC he gets desperate and tries to rush the trade.  Anyone time ANYONE trys to rush you through a trade you are not comfortable with walk away!


MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
We traded before and i want to do business again with you.

victim:.
ok let's just get this done. Send now and I'll send btc

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Do we really have to go over this again. Uggggh.
just recently stopped doing that because i ran my tests and i lost more money by getting scammed when i didnt go first. Its my new policy im sorry but it safer for me and my customers.
TACTIC:  empathy.  “I’ve been scammed man.  I know how you feel.”


MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
there sent it i guess but don’t scam me

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
I went against my new policy for you
TACTIC: making fake concessions just for you.
NOTE: at this point Scammer sent me and invoice NOT a payment to paypal.  If someone was not paying attention, they could possibly release funds with our realizing they received no money.


victim:.
Thanks man

victim:.
i didn't get anything yet

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
check your email i sent it in a invoice you need to accept it, and i got rid of the fees by sending it as a gift


victim:.
Is your name Harrison Hower?
NOTE:  his nic here is Mike Johnson.  He tells me his is glooboy.  Now I receive an invoice from Harrison Hower.  At this point victim should RUN not walk away.

victim:.
No?

victim:.
I thought your name was Mike Johnson??

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
o lol my friend forgot to log off guess i just sent you the money from there, damnit

victim:.
The invoice say pay 111 to harrison hower

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
ya thats my friend you can accept it
NOTE: NEVER receive a payment from a paypal account you are not certain belongs to the owner.  

victim:.
but its and invoice for payment. Your suppose to pay me???

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Its a payment from me....

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Are you new with paypal, thats what it says for you to accept the payment.

victim:.
no it says PAY Harrison Hightower

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Wtf i might have misclicked or something can we pick this up in the morning is 2 am here.

victim:.
no is says invoice form Harrison Hower you said that is not you. I know that name from somehwere.

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
Very sorry this seems very unprofessional.

victim:.
Wait I know that name.
You the scammer from bitcoin talk. I say your photo on there tonight.
You are a scrawny kid and thier was some photo of you looking like douch in a porshe.
You were just trying to scam me!
   

MikeJohnson5898(SCAMMER);
No you were trying to scam me





1865  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer Tag: Gineta on: November 18, 2012, 04:39:31 PM
tldr

are you a scammer?
1866  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer Tag: Gineta on: November 18, 2012, 04:26:42 PM
I saw Gineta pop up in irc and he was looking a little sketch.  Keep us posted.
1867  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is he trying to scam me? on: November 18, 2012, 03:32:57 PM
By the way this isn't really a technical discussion thread.  Its a scammer thread.  While the comments about confirmations are helpful the tactic used here is all too common both here and bitcoinary and irc.

On bitcoinary scammer will create multiple account and "trade" which himself giving highest rating.  Then when scammer gets in touch with victim (who is usually a new user) he will say I have higher ratings then you and tell victim to send first.  Victim sends and scammer will give excuses like the payment "got stuck in the blockchain."  Another popular ploy is scammer will tell victim to send BTC first and then scammer will tell victim he will pay once he sees "x" amount of confirmations.  Meanwhile by the time the transaction confirms the scammer is gone.

Scammers will also use a "friend" to handle escrow.  Make sure who ever is providing escrow is legitimate.  DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU TRADE.

I'll post some conversations who you can see how it works.

In the mean time tomatocage has posted a very helpful primer to spotting scammers in lending and trading.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119896.0
1868  Economy / Lending / Re: 4 Bitcoin loan to be repaid by 11/22/2012 as current bitcoin rate +12% per coin. on: November 18, 2012, 03:16:02 PM
Dakster is Derek Hower and yes he and his brother Harrison Hower are that stupid.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125504.msg1342212#msg1342212

1869  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I pay 5 BTC if someone could order a debit card from this company for me. on: November 18, 2012, 05:34:17 AM
Scammer.  Lock thread please!

This is not the bottling network.
1870  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is he trying to scam me? on: November 18, 2012, 05:33:31 AM
because that's what we do here on bitcoin talk.  Argue.  Sometimes about stupid shit.
1871  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is he trying to scam me? on: November 18, 2012, 02:32:36 AM
sounds about right.

Harrison Hower was on bitcoinary scamming later that nite pretending to be glooboy of IRC

and Derek Hower is brother scammed another guy.

There scammers dude.

Go back to your rave.
1872  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is he trying to scam me? on: November 18, 2012, 02:26:44 AM
Yea  Jaw3bmasters is a scammer or an alt for the Hower boys.
1873  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitinstant Issue: Coins Lost Since 29 Sept on: November 18, 2012, 02:07:42 AM
Charlie said who ever you sent the coin to has taken them.  So the only thing you can do is post the address here and say you sent the money to the wrong address and maybe there will be and honest bitcoiner that will send it back to you.   But how knows who controls that address  or if they even read here.

Unfortunately you are not the first one to do this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54503.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10473.msg150218#msg150218
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113389.msg1224635#msg1224635
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=21127.msg264862#msg264862


What address did you send it too.
1874  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitinstant Issue: Coins Lost Since 29 Sept on: November 18, 2012, 01:38:12 AM
I'm saying pam pam pam becuase you took a private matter in a public channel.

and I'm saying welcome to bitcoin cause thinks like sending to the wrong address happen.   You're going to lose bitcoin.  it is unfortunate but it happens.  I think there was a guy around here that send like 10,000 BTC to the wrong address!  I think he did manage to fine that.  There is a thread in here somewhere you can read all about.

but unless you know who controls the private key to that address (public key) you are out of luck.

How much was it?
1875  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitinstant Issue: Coins Lost Since 29 Sept on: November 17, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
Pam, Pam, Pam.


..... welcome to bitcoin.....
1876  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitinstant Issue: Coins Lost Since 29 Sept on: November 17, 2012, 10:14:13 PM
Sent him a PM.   I'm sure he'll be in touch.
1877  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Trendon Shavers-Philip Moustakis-United States Securities & Exchange Commission on: November 17, 2012, 04:49:05 PM
I was wondering that myself.  A while back he indicated that he had or had knowledge of interactions with the SEC.  Then he disappears.   Everyone is running scared.  Hmmmm.....

LoupGaroux

Unless you are a tax/securities attorney or specialist, please do not troll this thread.
We don't need anymore FUD then is already spread else where on these boards.

Why would you want to limit the discussion to "tax/securities attorneys or specialists" when the conversation might gain something with input from someone who has already been interviewed several times over the past couple of months? It's not FUD if it is factual, and I can categorically state that at least two PPT's are a definite focus of this investigation beyond Trendon.

I can also confirm that this investigation is willing to use subpoena powers to compel "conversations" as required.

That's only causes fear if you are a PPT and you sent ANYTHING through to pirate, in which case you might want to be looking to reimburse real fast.

1878  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Got scammed while buying BTC with paypal, what should I do now? on: November 17, 2012, 03:43:54 PM
his brother is named Harrison Hower
his email is cooliozazu19@gmail.com

They are both know scammers.

I'll post a few more photos later.
1879  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Got scammed while buying BTC with paypal, what should I do now? on: November 17, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
This is his name:
Dakota Hower
dakotahower@gmail.com



http://www.gofundme.com/TheHitman


This is his mix martial arts coach. 

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000596831784

1880  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The pirate and the SEC - Alleged e-mails. on: November 17, 2012, 03:16:17 PM
The Bitcoin Securities investigation is being handled by the Division of Enforcement.

This article and the activities it mentions occurred within the Trading and Markets division (as is says in the first line of the article if you bothered to read it).
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