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1901  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: May 27, 2019, 03:08:41 PM
gold standard is worthless junk, germany is on the national socialism standard

Germany has been a republic for some time....  Check your facts before you vomit them everywhere please.

national socialism means there is a banking cartel that runs an agenda.

even if its a "democratic" national socialism its still somehow like that. nation states have to run a socialism or they wont have support.

I don't even know how to respond to that broken argument.... other than to correct you again:

national socialism is literally defined as "the polotical doctrine of the nazi party of germany"... which has been gone for some time now.... which I have already pointed out.

Again,  I will repeat:  check your facts bud.... I said it to you initially because you are making completely incorrect/illogical statements.

You do not know how to discuss things if you do not know the basic definitions of what you are speaking about.  You replies are clearly indicative of that.

you are wrong national socialism means a socialism based on a nation
there is also tribal socialism, religious socialism corporate socialism etc.
1902  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: May 27, 2019, 02:01:43 PM
gold standard is worthless junk, germany is on the national socialism standard

Germany has been a republic for some time....  Check your facts before you vomit them everywhere please.

national socialism means there is a banking cartel that runs an agenda.

even if its a "democratic" national socialism its still somehow like that. nation states have to run a socialism or they wont have support.
1903  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with huawei? on: May 27, 2019, 01:23:20 PM
I'm confused about the huawei, US government, Chinese government and US corporations stances towards the company.

To be honest, the Chinese government probably have a lot of control over Huawei but no more than the NSA have over microsoft, intel, google and facebook. Look at the wannacry virus and how quickly that spread to notice how the US government fund flaws in Microsoft's Windows OS.

The 5G debate is an interesting one too. I don't see why we actually need it for starters, 50mbps is fast enough for virtually everything you want to do (I travel between capital cities and my phone loads in an instant when connected to data, why chase milliseconds - the server on the other end is still going to be pretty slow)? Anyway, even if huawei do provide 5G networks to places like the UK, I still don't see how they'll get very much power... This could all just be part of the trade war between Trump and the rest of the world, spreading random fud in order to ensure the US government can remain one of the strongest economies and  be able to keep track of everyone. Can huawei really do worse than Google or have I missed something?

the suspicion around huawei is legit, the problem is that the americans created a habit of state control and abuse of the local tax paying corporations,

google also would have given the usa user data, around the chinese population searches.

huawei has to emanzipate itself examplatory from its government as one of the first chinese company if it wants to be popular worldwide.
1904  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trade war China and US on: May 27, 2019, 09:25:12 AM
I really think this trade war going on is an opportunity for us all who believe in a decentralized world, can start promoting blockchain technology. And I mean talking about it everywhere. News, e-magazines, etc. Blockchain  can solve all of those problems. All it needs is recognition.

jes these trade wars are a huge opportunity, but why should the people switch their national banking cartels for a corrupt network of cryptocurrency indexes?
What do you mean by corrupt network? Decentralization cannot be corrupted.

of course it can,

when someone claims to posses the "true" index of cryptocurrencies,

if he then will be believed he effectively created a private index cartel, he then can say who is a cryptocurency and who is a shitcoin.

who is nr. 1 and who an insignificant number 20000
1905  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 27, 2019, 09:13:14 AM
Yeah... Convenient examples with countries that actually collaborated with Germans and had their own Nazi parties.
How about Eastern Europe? How about Poland?
1/10th of their population was killed. It was the only country under German occupation where helping a Jew was punishable by death of whole family - and often - a whole village.
There was never a Nazi party there, there was no official collaboration with Nazi Germany but now they are not allowed to celebrate their Independence without being called Nazis by people like you.
Honestly - it's despicable.
Nationalism doesn't equal fascism. Nationalism doesn't automatically mean national socialism. You can have democracy AND love your own history, culture and country.
It's up to the nation to decide if they want to accept someone or not.
Just like it's up to you to decide who you invite to your home.

Because of this rhetoric of everyone with opinion to the right from Marx being a Nazi - you are devaluing the sacrifices of people who fought actual Nazis and lowering the threat from actual 'supremacy' groups.
But we must 'accept other cultures' - as long as it's not our own?

so why is poland then running a 99% ethnically homogenous nazi state today?

EU has only one future, and that is more like the usa, no nations, no racism, communism is most close to what will be next stage. economic block and trade union.

no nations, no racism and no nazism means also

no poland no germany, no italy, no france etc.

all those countries would have to be renamed into geographic expressions.

like for example germany -> central Europe, etc.

nations and their racism where responsible for second and first world war.
1906  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story on: May 27, 2019, 09:04:24 AM
ok then do capitalism, but dont create a currency realm, and enforce it upon others, and block others from spending a different currency there.

liberty and capitalism are also going to split as will be democracy and capitalism.

I 100% agree.

One of the major issues I have is the fact we are not on any sort of "standard" when it comes to the value of "money".   You are literally cherishing "money" thinking that it is not worthless; simply based on the fact that you are told it is not and believe it.   This thinking is perpetuated through society; making it harder and harder to correct as time goes on.  

Lack of a "gold standard" or something of the like;  is the single biggest problem with the capitalist system of today that I can think of... aside from the fractional reserve system....

thats not true, societies can have successful economies, because they dont have a gold standard, like for example germany, it is a ressource poor country and would have the strongest currency in europe and ressource rich countries cant have strong currencies.

There's obvious historical reasons why germany is not on the gold standard.......  and in the ~50+ years of their currency before adopting the euro; its value diminished by over 70%.   
Stable;  yea;  but stably on a downward trend... I don't consider that strong.  More of predictable and reliable.

gold standard is worthless junk, germany is on the national socialism standard
1907  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 27, 2019, 08:18:48 AM
What a sham the UK election turned out to be. The Robin Tilbrook legal action looks likely to succeed, and this will mean that the UK actually left the EU on the 29th March 2019. The cost of the useless election was 4 times the amount required to save British Steel, and about 30.000 jobs - that shows where the Conservative priorities are, and they have been punished for it. Since we have been in the EU, the pound has lost 70% of it's value, debt has skyrocketed, and our manufacturing base and national assets have been exported. The sooner we can get away from The EU, and avoid having to prop up the collapsing Euro and European economy the better.

I look forward to the return to the British standards of food quality, rather than the lower EU standards that have been imposed on us as well.

no you will eat chlorinated chicken, so british steel gets the mercy of selling a bit of steel into us market for your trade deal

you will also possibly keep chinas nuclear waste for a trade deal with china, now you have to beg yourselves through worlds trade blocks

there never where high british food standards, thats another fantasy of you.

brits are so damn deluded.
1908  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 11:39:30 PM
I'm reading this and wondering where the hell we went wrong?
You know nothing about real socialism, communism and Nazis. I lost large portion of my family in WWII. They fought real Nazis...
According to your standards those who defended their homes would be called Nazi now and German army would be welcomed with flowers. WTF?Huh

jes thats actually true,

different nazis,

german nazis, danish nazis, french nazis,

these are the ntional banking cartels in those nations.

fighting over access to the labour market. to feed their economy
1909  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 09:43:43 PM
European parliament election is being held in many EU countries today.

I am proud and happy to vote. Proud and happy to be part of the European family.

Voting is a right and should not be thrown away. By voting is how together as a people you can make a difference.

Happy election day to everyone in EU where election is held today!

I hope every citizen of the EU would feel like you do.
Solidarity and union should be promoted and not hatred. Sadly, I am afraid that the result is not going to be promising for the European vision and future and extremist right will have increased rates in many countries.

What the fuk does Nazi mean to you? It means a collectivist, authoritarian, anti-individualist government that considers the individual to be simply a cell in the body politic.  It is anti-individual freedom at its core and its extremely violent in the way it deals with the people under its control.

I don't see Poland's government to be repressive. Do you? Do you consider the Estonian right to pushing for a militaristic, anti-individualist, repressive Estonia?

The EU, as it is, will collapse if it doesn't change.


eu will go on growing, the nazis are to horrible to be an alternative and the EU tend left towards communism

Nazi's? Is everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi? IF you don't want migrants coming to your country, especially migrants who despise your culture, does that make you a Nazi?

What is a Nazi to you? Are libertarians Nazi? Are free-market capitalists Nazis? Are socialists Nazis? Or are Nazi's simply people that want immigrants to their nation to respect their culture and adapt to it?

If being a Nazi means being violent and disrespectful to other cultures then Muslims, by that definition, would rightfully be called Nazis. Wouldn't they? And if you consider that argument to be false then wouldn't it be false to consider people to be Nazis who don't want hostile migrants coming to their country?

everyone who wants to keep the nation states is defacto a nazi nation states cant continue without national socialism

european nation states are like a spoiled movie, no one wants to see again anymore. no way eu will collapse and dissappear and we all return to those crappy nation states. people have grown up, live has to go on.

nation states are for children, europe will become communist. and united states will then follow through political gravity. the tendency is clear.

Wow. Just wow.  So, to you nation-states == nazism. So a nation state cannot be libertarian? It cannot be a mixed economy? And, most important, according to you, no nation-state can exist without having dictatorial control, without subjugating its citizens and without denying individuals basic individual right such as freedom of speech, privacy, etc...

No. The only solution is to have an international dictatorship (where have we heard that sh!t before?); that remolds people into proper way of being and thinking.  And, if the people don't want this? Then what do you do?

Oh. We've seen that before too. They're called reeducation camps.


If nazis have the possibility to build up their national socalism again they will do that. The people are responsible to stop the nazis from doing that. If the nazis do that they will prepare a war against other countries.

I hope the european election will show the nazis the red card.

well the nazis are allowed to create their national currency as an ICO and sell it to workers.
europe has multiple big problems in my oppinion the worst are

1. nazism
2. populism
1910  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 09:41:32 PM
European parliament election is being held in many EU countries today.

I am proud and happy to vote. Proud and happy to be part of the European family.

Voting is a right and should not be thrown away. By voting is how together as a people you can make a difference.

Happy election day to everyone in EU where election is held today!

I hope every citizen of the EU would feel like you do.
Solidarity and union should be promoted and not hatred. Sadly, I am afraid that the result is not going to be promising for the European vision and future and extremist right will have increased rates in many countries.

The EU, as it is, will collapse if it doesn't change.


eu will go on growing, the nazis are to horrible to be an alternative and the EU tend left towards communism

Nazi's? Is everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi? IF you don't want migrants coming to your country, especially migrants who despise your culture, does that make you a Nazi?

What is a Nazi to you? Are libertarians Nazi? Are free-market capitalists Nazis? Are socialists Nazis? Or are Nazi's simply people that want immigrants to their nation to respect their culture and adapt to it?

If being a Nazi means being violent and disrespectful to other cultures then Muslims, by that definition, would rightfully be called Nazis. Wouldn't they? And if you consider that argument to be false then wouldn't it be false to consider people to be Nazis who don't want hostile migrants coming to their country?

everyone who wants to keep the nation states is defacto a nazi nation states cant continue without national socialism

european nation states are like a spoiled movie, no one wants to see again anymore. no way eu will collapse and dissappear and we all return to those crappy nation states. people have grown up, live has to go on.

nation states are for children, europe will become communist. and united states will then follow through political gravity. the tendency is clear.

Wow. Just wow.  So, to you nation-states == nazism. So a nation state cannot be libertarian? It cannot be a mixed economy? And, most important, according to you, no nation-state can exist without having dictatorial control, without subjugating its citizens and without denying individuals basic individual right such as freedom of speech, privacy, etc...

No. The only solution is to have an international dictatorship (where have we heard that sh!t before?); that remolds people into proper way of being and thinking.  And, if the people don't want this? Then what do you do?

Oh. We've seen that before too. They're called reeducation camps.



jes they are in the end all dictatorial, they are running a financial cartel, nazis are crap because they are a spoiled movie that had no happy ending, why continue their trash
1911  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 08:46:43 PM
European parliament election is being held in many EU countries today.

I am proud and happy to vote. Proud and happy to be part of the European family.

Voting is a right and should not be thrown away. By voting is how together as a people you can make a difference.

Happy election day to everyone in EU where election is held today!

I hope every citizen of the EU would feel like you do.
Solidarity and union should be promoted and not hatred. Sadly, I am afraid that the result is not going to be promising for the European vision and future and extremist right will have increased rates in many countries.

The EU, as it is, will collapse if it doesn't change.


eu will go on growing, the nazis are to horrible to be an alternative and the EU tend left towards communism

Nazi's? Is everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi? IF you don't want migrants coming to your country, especially migrants who despise your culture, does that make you a Nazi?

What is a Nazi to you? Are libertarians Nazi? Are free-market capitalists Nazis? Are socialists Nazis? Or are Nazi's simply people that want immigrants to their nation to respect their culture and adapt to it?

If being a Nazi means being violent and disrespectful to other cultures then Muslims, by that definition, would rightfully be called Nazis. Wouldn't they? And if you consider that argument to be false then wouldn't it be false to consider people to be Nazis who don't want hostile migrants coming to their country?

everyone who wants to keep the nation states is defacto a nazi nation states cant continue without national socialism

european nation states are like a spoiled movie, no one wants to see again anymore. no way eu will collapse and dissappear and we all return to those crappy nation states. people have grown up, live has to go on.

nation states are for children, europe will become communist. and united states will then follow through political gravity. the tendency is clear.
1912  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Europawahl, welche Partei kann noch gewählt werden. on: May 26, 2019, 08:40:02 PM
kann hier mal einer erklären wozu man als kommissionspresident einen gewählten populisten braucht?

das ist sowas für eine bekloppte und schädliche logik.

die EVP und die CDU, haben sie nicht mehr alle.
1913  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 06:45:59 PM
European parliament election is being held in many EU countries today.

I am proud and happy to vote. Proud and happy to be part of the European family.

Voting is a right and should not be thrown away. By voting is how together as a people you can make a difference.

Happy election day to everyone in EU where election is held today!

I hope every citizen of the EU would feel like you do.
Solidarity and union should be promoted and not hatred. Sadly, I am afraid that the result is not going to be promising for the European vision and future and extremist right will have increased rates in many countries.

The EU, as it is, will collapse if it doesn't change.


eu will go on growing, the nazis are to horrible to be an alternative and the EU tend left towards communism
1914  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: A Nuclear War Over Venezuela? on: May 26, 2019, 02:56:13 PM
you cant convince people with weapons, to be productive people

you can only reduce them to slave who work only if they want to live.

and they wont work for long.
1915  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Europawahl, welche Partei kann noch gewählt werden. on: May 26, 2019, 02:25:17 PM
Noch ein Wort zur AFD: Wer die AFD mit NPD und anderen rechtsextremen Parteien in einen Topf wirft, hat sich noch nie ernsthaft mit dem Parteinspektrum auseinandergesetzt. Zum einen ist die AFD (mit Ausnahme einer Minderheit innerhalb der Partei) weit weniger nationalistisch und fremdenfeindlich, zum anderen hat sie im Unterschied zu den wirklich rechtsextremen Parteien kein sozialistisches Programm. Sie steht wirtschaftlich vielmehr der FDP relativ nahe, was auch die Wählerwanderungen und ihre Beliebtheit in Unternehmerkreisen zeigen.

Letztendlich sehe ich im Sozialismus die größte Gefahr für Bürgerrechte und Demokratie. Denn im Sozialismus geben die Menschen ihre Eigenverantwortung und damit ihre Macht and den Staat ab, um von diesem versorgt zu werden. Da spielt es kaum eine Rolle, ob der Sozialismus eine Nationalistische (NSDAP) oder Anti-Nationalistische (SED) Form annimmt. Das Ergebnis ist in beiden Fällen sehr schlecht.
Zu Deinen Ausführungen muss ich dann doch etwas schreiben.

Ja, es stimmt, nicht alle in der AfD sind Nazis.
Aber sie werden mindestens geduldet.
Wenn ich mir den Höcke angucke zum Beispiel überkommt mich das kalte Grausen.

Und Du willst wirklich die AfD der FDP in Sachen Wirtschafts-Know-how auf eine Stufe stellen?
Ein Blick ins AfD-Wahlprogram '17 hat mir gereicht. Die wollen z.B. den Mwst-Satz um 7%-Punkte senken, was ca. 100. Mrd. Mindereinnahmen bedeuten würde.
Natürlich sagen sie nicht, wie sie das gegenfinanzieren wollen.

Ich habe die DDR erlebt und will sie auf alle Fälle nicht zurück.
Nur eine Regierung unter der AfD wäre der noch viel größere Alptraum.
Unfähiges Personal, mit nicht wirklich transparenter Finanzierung (durch Großindustrielle?), gepaart mit einem ich sage mal "eigenartigen" Menschenbild würde mich definitiv auch in die Politik treiben.
Ich habe keine Lust mich von dummen Leuten regieren zu lassen.
Der Hundeopa (Gauland) behauptet ja immer noch es gibt keinen menschengemachten Klimawandel.
Sorry, solche Leute kann man nicht ernst nehmen.

Der Wahl-o-mat und auch dessen europäische Variante brachte "Die Partei" mit ganz oben bei mir.
Zusammen mit dem Fakt, dass sie schon im Parlament waren und für mehr Transparenz der Vorgänge da gesorgt haben, haben sie meine Stimme sicher.
Ich bin gespannt, wie sie sich weiter entwickeln.
Der Ansatz auf Probleme und Vorgänge mittels Satire aufmerksam zu machen ist nicht der Schlechteste.

das ganze europa system ist immer noch von diesem jahrhundertealtem nazi dreck durchseucht, es wird noch ne weile dauern bis wir gesunde communalstaatliche (stadt nationalstaatliche) verhältnisse in europa wie in russland oder den usa haben werden.

hoffe genug leute haben alternativen zu den nazi parteien gewählt. mir ist demokratie bei dieser wahl zum ersten mal unangenehm, ich denke das demokratie defakto eigentlich in seiner macht beschränkt ist und eine teilung von demokratie und kapitalismus eintreten wirds und unausweichlich werden wird.
1916  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 01:53:26 PM
European parliament election is being held in many EU countries today.

I am proud and happy to vote. Proud and happy to be part of the European family.

Voting is a right and should not be thrown away. By voting is how together as a people you can make a difference.

Happy election day to everyone in EU where election is held today!

I hope every citizen of the EU would feel like you do.
Solidarity and union should be promoted and not hatred. Sadly, I am afraid that the result is not going to be promising for the European vision and future and extremist right will have increased rates in many countries.

jes i am very afraid of that to, that european nazis will think of the EU as something like e federation of european racist nazi states. and less about a communist region

but these nazis have one big mistake they are completely unable to live with themselves.

regards
1917  Other / Politics & Society / Re: European parliament election on: May 26, 2019, 01:51:03 PM
European parliament election is being held in many EU countries today.

I am proud and happy to vote. Proud and happy to be part of the European family.

Voting is a right and should not be thrown away. By voting is how together as a people you can make a difference.

Happy election day to everyone in EU where election is held today!

damn election procedures, wasnt able to vote,

i am afraid these nazis will elect themselves and have huge portions in the Eu parliament, i hope enough sane europeans voted against the nazi crap
1918  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Europawahl, welche Partei kann noch gewählt werden. on: May 26, 2019, 01:28:15 AM
Am Wochenende wird das neue Europaparlament gewählt. Ich finde, es wird von Wahl zu Wahl schwieriger, wo man sein Kreuz macht. Aber trotzdem sollte man wählen.

CDU und SPD haben den Artikel 13 durchgeboxt. Und das, obwohl alle SPD-Abgeordneten dagegegen waren, hat Frau Barley dafür gestimmt. Der Kühnert will BMW verstaatlichen und Schäuble und Weber finden es geil, wenn man nur noch mit Klarnamen im Internet kommunizieren kann....ja, gehts noch?
Die GRÜNEN besteuern einfach mal alles, was denen nicht so passt und haben eigentlich keine richtige Linie.
Die FDP ist und bleibt die Partei der Besserangezogenen (https://www.apotheke-adhoc.de/nachrichten/detail/politik/bundestagswahl-lindners-fdp-partei-der-besserangezogenen/)
Die LINKEN sind gegen Bitcoin: Punkt 6.
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Kryptowährungen wie Bitcoin, die bei ihrer »Schürfung« große Mengen Strom verbrauchen, wollen wir verbieten.
https://www.die-linke.de/europawahl/wahlprogramm/
DIE PARTEI hat Äußerungen, da weiß ich nicht, ob es ernst ist oder nicht. Ich weiß auch nicht, ob Martin Sonneborn wirklich Politik gemacht hat oder nur im Parlament rumsaß.
Rechtspopulisten sind nicht wählbar

Wer bleibt da noch übrig?

Edit: Die PIRATEN sollen laut Julia Reda (die Frau, die gegen Artikel 13 gekämpft hat und danach ausgetreten ist) nicht gewählt werden, da der Listenplatz 2 von Gilles Bordelais besetzt ist, dem sexuelle Belästigung vorgeworfen wird (https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/reda-piratenpartei-101.html) und der auch wohl nicht ganz Parteikonform auf seinen Listenplatz verblieb -> https://www.piratenpartei.de/2019/03/15/waehlerinformation-betreffend-unsere-liste-zur-europawahl-2019/

mir gehts bei der europawahl auch nicht besser, ich werd wohl herrn macron weil er sich für stabilität einsetzt. und weil ich die nazis nicht mag die wieder ins letzte jahrhundert wollen

wie kann es denn sein das in europa tatsächlich völkische und volksverhetzende parteien an die macht wolle weile die ganzen handelsströme unterbrechen wollen und chaos und armut in europa anrichten wollen?

ich denke das demokratische soveränität ihrgendwie abgetrennt sein sollte von der freiheit des wirtschaftslebens, damit die demokratie nicht noch unbeliebter wird.

wahlen werden so zur folter.
1919  Other / Politics & Society / Re: May's Resignation: What Next? on: May 25, 2019, 08:51:01 PM
Boris is a Turkish name, borrowed by many Slavic countries, and Russians. I he even English?

Cool

uk is one of the most mixed european countries, borris johnson had a grandfather who was a ottoman empire official
1920  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Theresa May announces resignation on: May 25, 2019, 08:27:24 PM
Teresa May is very anti-Trump, and it does not surprise me to see she is unwilling to accept multiple election results all pointing to the UK wanting to leave the EU. There was the Brexit referendum in 2016 that obviously showed the UK people wanting to leave the EU, and multiple general elections in which the pro-leave party was elected to power.

I don't think a "no deal" Brexit is necessarily the best way to leave the EU because this would make it more difficult for those in the UK to trade with and conduct business with those in the EU. The best solution would be one that includes few or no trade barriers between the UK and EU, including tariffs, regulations, and government subsidies. I don't think it is reasonable for any deal to include zero regulations between the UK and EU, but any deal with few regulations would be good.  

jes a referendum with 52/48 percent is obvious, especially if the drunkards that voted there started to get fired some time later after the referendum because the factories they worked in started to close down.

the eu would be much smarted to do a no deal brexit, because its much more powerful, then all british businessmen would settle in eastern europe and fix the poverty there and help tax earning.

the eastern european states will 100% push for no deal together with france. just because of that reason
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