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1221  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders? on: January 27, 2020, 07:49:44 AM
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do you live under a rock?`

american farmer outcry after trump closed the border,
german automaker trying to hire from outside the EU
salvini tried to close italian border, and got sued

These are all solutions (labor spreads) are things which would not exist for corporate business after globalization has homogenized the worlds populations and societies via open borders.  [You can (and should) argue that it won't matter much as automation takes over.]

The winners would be the people who control the largest corporations at the time of a 'flip' to centralized economic control since they would step into those positions in the new regime.  It seems that there is ample evidence that indeed, some of these people are the most active in furthering the globalization project.  To a degree they use the resources of the corporations they control (and build new corporations) to do this, but it's not the main vehicle they use as I see it.  They use governments (through lobbying, Epstien-esque methods, etc) and NGOs, and especially the combination of the two.

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At a deeper (and to me much more interesting) level, it seems the case that their will be a homogenization and centralization of control.  It's going to happen, folks, and about all we can hope for with distributed crypto-currencies is that they attenuate some people's flexibility in certain ways.  The question is who will be in charge of 'it' (aka, the 'new world order')?  There are two main factions as I see it:

 - Resource based.

 - Debt based.

The resource based folks favor smaller and more controlled populations;  'their' resources will go farther and they can induce artificial scarcity more effectively.

The debt-based crowd are better served by larger populations; there are more potential debt-slaves, and said debt slaves need the 'freedom' to most effectively service the debt that they've been saddled with.

Although highly simplified and inaccurate, these two groups could be represented by Rockefeller and Rothschild respectively.

The resource-based group has been out of the driver's seat since territory/feudalism times and the rise of modern banking, but they've had plenty of capability to set up for a recapture and have been working on it diligently for about 100 years.  (The 'global warming' hoax is a minor and current artifact of their labors.)  The debt-based crowd have more recently seen the danger and dug in for the fight (and Trump is a minor artifact of their reaction.)

The dynastic wealth, and even the primary combatants themselves to a large degree, have put bets on both sides.  I suspect they will try for a sharing agreement since both sides are guaranteed a pretty big slice of pie (game theory.)  They'll always be jockeying for an upper hand though, and ready to completely slit the throat of the other side if the opportunity presents itself.



globalisation will never homogenise, soon enough, there will be rich and poor segregating everything, also religious and national dna will continue, for through homogenisation it is now time to diversify nonwhite nonwestern countries like china, india and africa
1222  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crypto taxes on: January 27, 2020, 01:45:35 AM
The UK tax authorities use the same system for personal tax or capital gains tax whether the income is sourced from buying/selling crypto or from selling shares on the stock exchange. I did not know this was being discussed on a big scale in governmental agencies.


https://blockonomi.com/hmrc-crypto-tax-evaders/
UK’s tax agency HMRC is pushing for crypto investors to pay taxes on their revenue... of course, in case the investment goes well and profit has been made.

But i'm asking myself: what happen if the investment goes badly?
They are not going to pay taxes back to me if i lose money.

They are villains.
You are the one taking the risk, and you deserve to keep all your hard earned profits.

The gov did not help you make profit, it was 100% by your own intellect and risk , so why should you give them a piece of your cake?

I may accept such a steal if they at least pay me part of my losses in case my investment was bad...

My forecast for the 2020:
because of increasing regulation/taxes on crypto, the privacy coins will grow significantly both in price and adoption, since they are the only ones able to hide your finances from the transaction tracking tools used by the gov.

Even Litecoin may grow in value, if their privacy improvements are implemented well.

Or maybe the people will stick to BTC, and then they'll pretend an hacker stole their coins. Who knows

uk authorities have brexited the broad masses while they themselves aquired themselves eu citizenships
1223  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders? on: January 27, 2020, 12:19:51 AM
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private corporations use their money to lobby for open borders so they can exploit the masses of cheap immigrant labour, the rich then blend in with the immigrants marry them, so they look like them, while in the meantime betraying their own countrymen. thats how it works in germany, i saw that with my own eyes, thats how they see how nationalsocialism without communist socialism is supposed to work.

Bring some examples please.  I have seen 'captains of industry' pay lip-service to a lot of the agenda items of 'globalism', of which population movements are one, but there are all kinds of reasons why that would happen.  The 'boots on the ground' actually implementing the policies don't seem to have direct funding ties to global corporate entities that I know of.

I've been paying attention to politics for some time.  Only a few decades ago immigration was indeed a 'big business' thing and fairly obviously it was for the purposes of bringing down wages like you say.  'Liberals' were anti-immigration.  That shifted notable and relatively suddenly along with a lot of other policies.  Sadly a healthy percentage of 'Liberals' did a 180-degree about face with their policy directors without missing a beat.

Anyway, with modern globalization where you can bring most work to the cheapest labor, industry really doesn't need 'cheap labor'.  It actually makes more sense to have discrete nations with different economics and different policies.  Lumping everyone into a state of 'equity' will work very much against those who's business model involves playing the 'labor spread'.

Both logic and observation indicate to me that the goal of 'open borders' is 'deeper' than some profit maximization scheme.  On the other hand it is pretty much an exact match for the prophesies/fantasies of one certain group in particular.  In might be simple coincidence that it is this same group who are very very over-represented in making 'open borders' a reality.  Or it might not.



do you live under a rock?`

american farmer outcry after trump closed the border,
german automaker trying to hire from outside the EU
salvini tried to close italian border, and got sued
1224  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans are lucky, they have Trump and Pelosi on: January 26, 2020, 09:53:12 AM
angolosaxon elections including massively important ones are since decades 50+-1% elections its time they stop taking the rest of the world hostage with those elections
1225  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where do you stand on abortion? Let's have a civil debate. on: January 26, 2020, 09:12:27 AM
i can't really decide on my own anymore, if i would be a greedy billionaire, i would preer to ban abortions so women give birth to more cheap money earning cattle, ready for exploitation,

if i would be a relative to the women, that is unvoluntarily also financially unsecure and unstable i would rather decide for the women.

etc.

regards
1226  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders? on: January 26, 2020, 09:08:33 AM

soviet union had borders more protected than even stupid eu with almost no borders to turkey, eu is even helping migrants to pass the mediterannian,

entire european union's society is being destroyed by greed private corporations that lobby more and more foreigners into the country.

It actually doesn't make much sense from any standpoint that 'private corporation are the driving force behind policies which would 'destroy' the Western European nations.  And I've seen no real evidence that that is the case.  On the other hand, U.S. and Israeli operations (esp, the creation and support of so-called ISIS) created a lot of the refugee supply, and a bunch of so-called 'NGO groups' have been doing the transport of these 'displaced persons.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53A5AJoRxF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrLt5q0SxI  Some of that good 'ol stage managed rescues in this one.  Lol.

One hypothesis is that segments within the Jewish world WANT Jews to be hated and despised all around the globe and don't really seek to hide their genocide in 'their land' and interference operations within other nations.  They want and need 'anti-semitism' and seek to create it at every opportunity.  The simple reason for this is that they want/need a re-population of the so-called 'promised land' by the so-called 'chosen people' to fulfill certain of their prophecies/fantasies.  Yet another set of purges here and there would be just the ticket.

I honestly don't remember seeing any Talmudic/Kabbalahistic person stating the aforementioned strategy in a totally blunt manner, but some of them have come mighty close.  If I were one of the 95% of Jews who is just a normal person I would be terrified of what the radical Jews are up to and working hard(er than I already do) to see the project wither on the vine.  An attempt is unlikely to end well for anyone.



private corporations use their money to lobby for open borders so they can exploit the masses of cheap immigrant labour, the rich then blend in with the immigrants marry them, so they look like them, while in the meantime betraying their own countrymen. thats how it works in germany, i saw that with my own eyes, thats how they see how nationalsocialism without communist socialism is supposed to work.
1227  Other / Politics & Society / Trump accusses leftist of open border madness but wait for lobbists on: January 25, 2020, 07:55:45 AM
trump accusses that leftists are betraying the population that voted for them by importing a flood of immigrants, but the right libertarian leaning corporate america will flood the nation and its welfare systems with even more migrants they try to economically exploit.

there is no real salvage in the western world, from the migration dilemma ending colonialism started this problem altogether, we are already observing an economic desintegration in the third world, if europe collapses socially and economically due to migrants the entire world will fall in decades long econom,ic depression

the end of colonialism ended the development of the third world in its substance. which now evolved towards desintegrating third world states
1228  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders? on: January 25, 2020, 07:38:23 AM
The soviet union and the communism was a special regime which is not the same such as the leftist ideology that exists now.
They are accused by the republicans mostly because they believe that they are not only a country for America. It is a country that belongs to all people and all people are equal to be part of the country.

soviet union had borders more protected than even stupid eu with almost no borders to turkey, eu is even helping migrants to pass the mediterannian,

entire european union's society is being destroyed by greed private corporations that lobby more and more foreigners into the country.
1229  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 25, 2020, 07:35:32 AM
Media hysteria with little to no facts.

Yes media has a story to tell and they got this.
This virus is out and China is taking all possible measures to counter this. They have lock down around 5 cities and building a 1000 bed hospital that will be completed in 10 days.

they have spend money in the billions to look good despite the virus having killed just 26 people
1230  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / privat konzernlobby wird den afddeutschen das genick brechen on: January 25, 2020, 07:16:19 AM
die gier nach fachkräften zwecks kurzfristiger ausbeutung und die anschließende überlassung an die nationalen sozialstaaten wird in europa noch einen genickbruch bei der bevölkerung anrichten.

man verlässt sich immer noch auf die fremdendeinflichkeit und den rassismus der lokalen europäischen bevölkerung welche die sozialen besitzstandsverhältnisse aufrecht erhalten soll.

mal schnell fachkräfte für 5-10 jahre aus indien oder afrika importieren und diese dan auszubeuten und anschließend der lokalen bevölkerung zwecks sozialer sicherung zu überlassen wird noch den genickbruch auf für die afd deutschen herbeiführen.

der kapitalismus zerstört sich selbst

https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article205315189/Fachkraefte-Mangel-IT-ist-der-grosse-Engpass-bei-Volkswagen.html

wenn es dann irgendwann schon viel zu spät ist werden auch die bekloppten konzerne und deren jüdisch freimaurerisches bankenkartel es merken wenn ihre währung wertlos wird weil die eigene bevölkerung sie tiefgreifend hassen wird.

dann rennen die alle russischen rubeln hinterher. wo dann die konzern lobby die gleiche agenda versucht herbeizuführen

gruß
1231  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Prince Harry's break with the Royal Family is a historic event...! on: January 25, 2020, 05:08:32 AM
In an article it is stated that debate of Harry and Meghan's push for greater independence from royal family is like the brexit debate. The young liberals supporting the couple while the older conservatives backing the queen. What's the opinion of you people on this historic event. Another source has revealed that the couple is moving to Canada. Maybe soon they'll apply for permanent residence in Canada.

Source : Harry Meghan Megxit Brexit

I dont think it would make a difference as he was never in list of kings and that spot is taken by his nephew. I feel Harry has always followed what he wanted and dint like the royalty much as it was the reason that lead to death of his mom, princess Diana. He married an old women , a divorcee , joined the defence forces and have been vocal compared to other royalties. I feel it is a good decision.

in europe we had a century long tradition of royalty marrying withing european royalty and never with the citizens, this was to prevent nationalist racist hatred between nobility.
1232  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is planting trees actually good for the planet? on: January 25, 2020, 05:05:48 AM
there is this startup from the EU,

that is producing protein out of CO2 dense air

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/07/15/Solar-Foods-makes-protein-out-of-thin-air-This-is-the-most-environmentally-friendly-food-there-is

this will solve in the long run the so called climate crisis

No. Co2 is at the bottom of the energy ladder.

not for plants, they eat CO2 to extract the Coal out of it
1233  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans are lucky, they have Trump and Pelosi on: January 25, 2020, 04:55:57 AM
angolos are taking entire world hostage with their brexit/impeachment drama time they learn to shut up
1234  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 25, 2020, 04:48:43 AM
This is worse than they are letting on. I think it was yesterday when they locked down Wuhan. You know it's gone bad when you quarantine an ENTIRE city. Was watching an interview of tourists there that managed to get out.

Even before the lockdown the government has already stopped all public transportation - buses and all, and these two chicks had to find someone willing to drive them to the next city. There's probably some tourists still left stranded in there.

If you live in Asia it's probably wise to start wearing masks when going outside considering the number of Chinese flying into the area. In my country alone they are sending back at least 100 people that were directly from Wuhan. Not to mention the local Chinese population in this region that is already in China and would fly back home after the festivities tomorrow.

oh that virus will benefit china's youth a lot, freeing them from pension costs of their elederly large generation

Sounds mean but absolutely true if this primarily affect the elderly. People say the Black Death is what allowed Europe to transition out of its feudal stage. (It caused a labor shortage, which drove up wage.)

like a chinese governeur during the chinese restoration cholera outbreak age once said to a french doctor:

"i will not do any cholera vaccinations, this is the most fertile region in the entire chinese empire, the farmers have up to 4 harvests a year and still the people are hungry, we need those diseases, to tear the needed holes into our midsts so the remaining ones have a chance to eat and live."

those viruses decrease the tax burden for the young, by tearing holes into the elderly.

Coronavirus is now also comming to the west
1235  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: January 25, 2020, 04:30:49 AM
it is time to get the corrupt americans out of eastern europe
1236  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders? on: January 25, 2020, 03:52:51 AM
american right wingers and trumpers accuse the democrats and liberals as "communists" for having open borders but, in real life communism like the soviet union the borders where pretty much closed.

complete confussion.

also soviet communism was very conservatives, no gay marriage, women destined to marry and get children etc.

but still the liberals in the usa are being accuse of communism.

why?

regards

Most people confuse 'Communists' and 'Jews'.  Part of it is deliberate (if unconscious) in order to avoid the anti-semite label which terrifies most normies to the core.  The other part is that there is, historically, so much Jewish influence in Communism that it's a fairly easy mistake to make.

Communist governments often do influence society by mass migrations and genocides, but that is common for ALL totalitarian forms of government.  It appeals especially to those who are enamored with central planning (e.g., most who call themselves 'socialist' and 'librals' these days) and those who are chronically paranoid about losing power (e.g., nearly every government with one very notable exception in the early days of the United States and shortly before.)

The so-called 'Muslim invasion' in Europe and the migrations into North America are nearly entirely driven by a pretty well known 'utopian' vision associated with Jewish people who tend toward the 'liberal' side and a parallel idea prevalent among the Talmudic folks from who's literature both sides basic belief's can be traced.

The general idea is a pure 'chosen people' race ruling over a mass of 'the nations' (mixed race light-browns).  (The more secular 'liberal' crowd focuses on 'ideological purity' where the more conservative Talmudic folks go for the ethnically pure 'descendants of David' line.)  They plan to 'bring peace', and seem to genuinely believe that only they can do it.

But before they can 'bring peace' the existing powers must be toppled.  Hence the immigration goings-on.



i am really no big friend of the forced migrations, the main driver of them are the nonracist/nonnationalist and inclusive social welfare systems state corruption, and most of all corrupt corporate lobbyism,

brits after brexit will find themselves with libertarians who will try to destroy the state in order to get into the state masses of cheap labour migrants they can exploit.

Eu with its global migration is basically destroying europe
1237  Other / Politics & Society / Re: slavery always was the condition of 99%+ of the worlds society and even elites on: January 25, 2020, 03:48:59 AM
There's a big difference between being a slave and a plantation worker. There's a difference between being a slave to your job and being property.

so its better to be forced to worry about your own income, instead of having and employer working for your sustainment

Yes. When you're forced to worry about your income then you have a choice on changing things and improving for the best. I realize you post is a troll post.

what value is the choice if you have to compete with thausands of other proletarians for the capitalist banksters money, like a third world person in india, africa or latin america.

Then I suggest that instead of working one of those job, volunteer yourself to become a slave, without the ability of choosing to get out. Have someone wealthy become your slave master, and you must do everything they said. And when you don't obey, if they wanted to they can give you a beating.

no joy in being a slave for me actaully would rather die.
1238  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ethical Standards: Rich People & Large Companies Donating to Political Parties on: January 24, 2020, 10:10:36 PM
How ethical is it for political parties to receive donations from large companies and/or wealthy individuals?

No matter which country, as long as there is a multi-party election process in a democratic system (based on their local norms), there will be funding. Large companies and wealthy individual donate phenomenal amounts of funding to these parties. Mostly it seems a clear case of trying or hoping to influence various decisions in favour of donors. In some cases it is fact, they donated and various political decisions seemed to favour them.

What would be a en ethical way to limit the impact financial donations are having on real free and real fair election processes internationally? The most obvious would be to cap the limit any individual and any company can donate.

If you were to be asked how this modern day bribery could be either stifled or stopped, what would you suggest as the best way to handle it?

of course its not ethical but if the rich and powerful can't influence the political process directly they will do it indirectly, with gifts etc.
1239  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: January 24, 2020, 12:55:13 AM
This is quickly becoming a global issue.

"Possible Coronavirus Case Under Investigation In Texas, Los Angeles"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-quarantines-second-city-experts-warn-its-already-too-late-stop-virus



"China Quarantines City Of 11 Million As Hong Kong Confirms Second Case Of Coronavirus"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-infections-climb-473-china-hong-kong-confirms-first-case



"Snakes, Bats, Badgers & Rats: Scientists Suspect New Coronavirus Originated In Animals"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/snakes-bats-badgers-rats-scientists-suspect-new-coronavirus-originated-animals



"China’s Battle With a Deadly Coronavirus, in Photos"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/world/asia/china-coronavirus-photos.html



"The Real Umbrella Corp: Wuhan Ultra Biohazard Lab Was Studying "The World's Most Dangerous Pathogens""

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/real-umbrella-corp-wuhan-ultra-biohazard-lab-was-studying-worlds-most-dangerous-pathogens

oh that virus will benefit china's youth a lot, freeing them from pension costs of their elederly large generation
1240  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NWO vs OWO - what's your pick? on: January 24, 2020, 12:28:25 AM
nwo will basically end up being a bankster scam, there will be the money printing banksters and the money earning cattle

rulers and slaves like always.
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