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1921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research on: September 26, 2021, 08:17:54 PM


Specifically, what in this essay can you factually disagree with? Attacking the author as "just" and agricultural advisor is immaterial. What Specifically do see as BS? I see very little, personally, that is counter to what I have known about virology, immunology, and yes, agricultural husbandry for many years. Do you want my personal credentials? GFY! Opsec.
Why not look into the credentials of Dr. Robert Malone? Or better yet, look a little deeper into the track record of Dr. Anthony Faucci... (how many died due to his stubborn insistence that HIV could be treated with a single miracle cure rather than a strategic regime of therapeutic & symptom based treatment?)

Serious questions: What percentage of Covid-19 infections do YOU believe lead to hospitalization? What percentage by your understanding leads to death? How many have died since March 2020 due to increased addiction, mental illness, and suicide brought on by isolation, fear, and economic catastrophe? How many have died due to abject failure in the medical industry to maintain sensible treatment plans for NON-COVID based healthcare treatment?  

My own father (the best man I ever knew) died from Covid policies in June 2020 even though he was tested 4 times and came up negative every time. His bronchioscopy that was scheduled as a follow-up after his successful radiation treatment had eradicated his stage 1 cancer was canceled. His pulse-ox readings were dropping into the 80-85% range. But because he was Covid negative, and since covid protocol would not allow his regular Dr's, those familiar with his specific conditions, to see him or be involved in his treatment, he was quickly discharged and put on oxygen. 8 days after his 70th birthday after being discharged from the hospital 4 times, he sat up on the edge of his bed and told my mother, "I can't breathe!" The irony of his last words, in June of 2020, "I can't breathe!" He then fell over and bled out from the aneurysm in his left lung that had grown to the point of rupturing since it was first detected in October of 2019. His Oncologist felt that it was more important to continue his treatments at that time, but wanted to look back with a bronchioscopy in February or March... Our hospitals were never overwhelmed, but the medical industry lost its collective mind! My father never had Covid-19 as my wife and I were very careful to avoid exposing him or my mother as we both went through it in May. He never had it, but it killed him just the same. I did have it, it sucked. And it cost me an additional 6 weeks of time with my father. 6 weeks of his last 8.

I had it, I beat it, and I have been exposed numerous times since. Because when the world shut down and my wife was furloughed I was needed much more urgently. After 18 months of working 50+ hours per week and traveling at least 1 week out of every month, I'm tired and maybe a bit cranky! But you tell me to "trust the science" "listen to the professionals" & "take the jab" FUCK YOU! The science tells me I already have natural immunity and due to my genetic predisposition to cardiovascular issues and blood clots, the science tells me this vaccine is not offering enough benefit to outweigh the risks. My wife went ahead and got the Pfizer vaccine. She has a genetic autoimmune issue that made it seem sensible for her even though she had already beaten Covid in early 2020. Of course that was when it was deemed 94% effective 🙄 and she has since developed a heart murmur that nobody can explain. Probably not related, but who knows?

So yea it kinda matters to me personally, so tell me Specifically, what do you see as being BS?

I've tried to avoid this topic because this is a Bitcoin conversation, (and because it's a bit of an emotional topic for me) but I greatly appreciated the link that was posted as I found it very helpful to see my own thoughts and knowledge expressed so succinctly. But you insist that it's 99% BS, and dismiss it. NO, Specifically what is factually untrue or even misleading?

I don't have time to spoon-feed you. You have to use your own brain. Basically it's just one big lie. All "facts" are purely SOMA kind of statements. No sources, no references.

So your father has passed away that's sad but why do you blame C19 for it? I have a feeling most antivaxxers (the ones who were not antivaxxers before 2020) have become antivaxxers after something bad happened in their lives. Lost a job in tourism industry? Blame Covid! Lost a relative due to some other disease? Blame Covid! Lost a night club or restaurant related business? Blame Covid! People just seem to need an enemy. Covid is a virus so it has no owner or CEO or whatever (just like BTC does). You can't blame a virus right? But my government is saying I should stay home. Blame government! Or let's say the virus was artificially created by China! Blame China! Or big pharma is not giving away vaccines for free? Blame big pharma!  Grin

If you wife has an autoimmune disease she made a wise choice. She'd most probably die from Covid. You know that Covid is 9-12 times more likely cause blood clots than vaccines?   Cool

Staying alive is not big enough benefit for you?  Grin

No pandemic can last forever. No one is forcing you to take unlimited booster shots. In fact many governments and doctors are against it and claim only people with weak immunity should take extra jabs.

And finally: if you trust a cow breeder as your doctor/medical advisor then why not let your car mechanic fix your teeth? Or your plumber examine your wife's genitals in a gyno checkup? And I thought that was clear for everyone with IQ above 50...   Grin

I didn't ask you to spoon feed me, as I said this essay agrees with my understanding of things. I have used my brain and knew a majority of what was said there-in before I read it. I asked very specific questions and you dodged them completely and then proceeded to blather on with a series of straw men & insults, so yea, answer seems to have been given by your refusal to answer and Fuck You very much!

And NO, I do not blame Covid for my father's death. I thought I was clear about that, HE NEVER HAD IT! I blame the stupid reactions, fear mongering, and economic shutdown imposed upon us by brainless diptwats like yourself who blindly scream trust the science to support destructive societal changes that have absolutely NOTHING to do with Science! So I guess it would be much more sensible to say I Blame You for my father's death rather than C19. And NO I am NOT an "Antivaxxer" I am up to date on my mumps, measles & rubella as well as tetanus and a couple others. I never had to get the chicken pox vaccine because I had already gotten chicken pox as a kid... Just Like I have Already Gotten & FULLY RECOVERED from Covid. So why subject myself to additional risk (as small as it may be) when I already have immunity that has proven to be far more effective than the vaccine? And NO my wife does NOT have an autoimmune disease, and as I said she has already had and recovered from Covid as well so she "most probably" WON'T die from Covid you dumb fuck! (Reading comprehension troubles eh? Explains a lot!) Yes I made my decision as to what gave me the best odds of staying alive. Granted part of my decision was determined by the fact that everyone recommending the vaccine was using provable lies for support and refusing to account for my particular circumstances, having already achieved immunity and genetic factors. By the way, my Dr. completely agrees with my decision but warns that it may end up coming down to a matter of convenience as opposed to best personal health practices.
So I don't know where you got your straw man about a cow breeder as a health advisor. But since I do all my own auto repair, and also do far more daily to maintain my oral heigene than anyone else and since I also do my own plumbing work... Why don't you just Fuck Right Off if you're not going to answer the questions I posed?

What percentage of Covid-19 infections do YOU believe lead to hospitalization? What percentage by your understanding leads to death? How many have died since March 2020 due to increased addiction, mental illness, and suicide brought on by isolation, fear, and economic catastrophe? How many have died due to abject failure in the medical industry to maintain sensible treatment plans for NON-COVID based healthcare treatment?  Specifically, what in this essay can you factually disagree with?

Ok enough of this vaccine talk. I can't change you you can't change me. In the UK, over 90% of population have had at least one shot already. Other countries to follow. So it's over. Let go. You lost. You're the minority here, accept it.  Cool

Yours truly,
Lab Rat
#nohomo
1922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research on: September 26, 2021, 08:07:41 PM

This is so under-merited.
Everyone should really read this. Thank you jojo, everything in one place.

Very low quality antivaxxer shit. Using a couple of real facts to make it look trustworthy to cover up the rest 99% which is a huge pile of BS. Looked up the author: why do you believe someone who's only work experience is a self employed agriculture consultant? You don't believe scientists, infectologists, pharma professionals but you do believe a retired agriculture consultant? Truly people believe what they WANT to believe.  Grin



So instead of attempting to refute the specific facts and concepts presented by the author, you instead ad hominem attack the author and dismiss it all.

Typical pro-vaxxer bullshit.

I don't have time to spoon-feed you. You have to use your own brain. Basically it's just one big lie. All "facts" are purely SOMA kind of statements. No sources, no references.
Actually the onus is on you to point out the specific so-called "lies". Point them out. Be specific.

He starts out with a particular standpoint on a subject and collects "facts" that fit that premise and disregards those that do not. That's not how science or decent investigative journalism works.

Ok, so which ones? Be specific.

How in the world I'm attacking the author? By exposing the fact that he's not an expert and is not competent in this field? Mmmkay...  Grin

Ok, let's be more specific. Even the headline is full of BS and lies:

The Snake-Oil Salesmen and the COVID-Zero Con: A Classic Bait-And-Switch for a Lifetime of Booster Shots (Immunity as a Service)

Snake oil is a well-known scam, a fraudulent cure, a fake panacea. It implies that vaccines are not doing what they were advertised to do. In fact, it means the vaccines are useless. So what exactly vaccines are not doing as promised? Has anyone promised you that you won't be able to get Covid after the vaccination? So can vaccine be compared to snake oil? Or it's a lie and a massive anti-vaxxer BS? The fact is that vaccinated people have lower chances to get covid than unvaccinated. Judging by local stats I've been studying out of every 1000 infected only about 200 are not vaccinated or had only 1 shot. It's a difference isn't it?

As to the second part, I have already mentioned that nobody is going to force you to take the third (fourth, fifth etc) shot. In fact, many governments and doctors point out that it will be optional for peeps with weakened immune system. Hell, what are you talking about? Governments are pathetic they can't even force antivaxxers to receive the first shot and you're saying 3rd shot is mandatory? How delusional is that? Have you heard of anyone in any country of the world receiving a mandatory appointment for the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot? Besides, pandemic will come to an end soon so it will not be necessary anyway. So, another lie?  Cool
1923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research on: September 26, 2021, 12:58:52 PM

This is so under-merited.
Everyone should really read this. Thank you jojo, everything in one place.

Very low quality antivaxxer shit. Using a couple of real facts to make is look trustworthy to cover up the rest 99% which is a huge pile of BS.

Specifically, what in this essay can you factually disagree with? Attacking the author as "just" and agricultural advisor is immaterial. What Specifically do see as BS? I see very little, personally, that is counter to what I have known about virology, immunology, and yes, agricultural husbandry for many years. Do you want my personal credentials? GFY! Opsec.
Why not look into the credentials of Dr. Robert Malone? Or better yet, look a little deeper into the track record of Dr. Anthony Faucci... (how many died due to his stubborn insistence that HIV could be treated with a single miracle cure rather than a strategic regime of therapeutic & symptom based treatment?)

Serious questions: What percentage of Covid-19 infections do YOU believe lead to hospitalization? What percentage by your understanding leads to death? How many have died since March 2020 due to increased addiction, mental illness, and suicide brought on by isolation, fear, and economic catastrophe? How many have died due to abject failure in the medical industry to maintain sensible treatment plans for NON-COVID based healthcare treatment?  

My own father (the best man I ever knew) died from Covid policies in June 2020 even though he was tested 4 times and came up negative every time. His bronchioscopy that was scheduled as a follow-up after his successful radiation treatment had eradicated his stage 1 cancer was canceled. His pulse-ox readings were dropping into the 80-85% range. But because he was Covid negative, and since covid protocol would not allow his regular Dr's, those familiar with his specific conditions, to see him or be involved in his treatment, he was quickly discharged and put on oxygen. 8 days after his 70th birthday after being discharged from the hospital 4 times, he sat up on the edge of his bed and told my mother, "I can't breathe!" The irony of his last words, in June of 2020, "I can't breathe!" He then fell over and bled out from the aneurysm in his left lung that had grown to the point of rupturing since it was first detected in October of 2019. His Oncologist felt that it was more important to continue his treatments at that time, but wanted to look back with a bronchioscopy in February or March... Our hospitals were never overwhelmed, but the medical industry lost its collective mind! My father never had Covid-19 as my wife and I were very careful to avoid exposing him or my mother as we both went through it in May. He never had it, but it killed him just the same. I did have it, it sucked. And it cost me an additional 6 weeks of time with my father. 6 weeks of his last 8.

I had it, I beat it, and I have been exposed numerous times since. Because when the world shut down and my wife was furloughed I was needed much more urgently. After 18 months of working 50+ hours per week and traveling at least 1 week out of every month, I'm tired and maybe a bit cranky! But you tell me to "trust the science" "listen to the professionals" & "take the jab" FUCK YOU! The science tells me I already have natural immunity and due to my genetic predisposition to cardiovascular issues and blood clots, the science tells me this vaccine is not offering enough benefit to outweigh the risks. My wife went ahead and got the Pfizer vaccine. She has a genetic autoimmune issue that made it seem sensible for her even though she had already beaten Covid in early 2020. Of course that was when it was deemed 94% effective 🙄 and she has since developed a heart murmur that nobody can explain. Probably not related, but who knows?

So yea it kinda matters to me personally, so tell me Specifically, what do you see as being BS?

I've tried to avoid this topic because this is a Bitcoin conversation, (and because it's a bit of an emotional topic for me) but I greatly appreciated the link that was posted as I found it very helpful to see my own thoughts and knowledge expressed so succinctly. But you insist that it's 99% BS, and dismiss it. NO, Specifically what is factually untrue or even misleading?

I don't have time to spoon-feed you. You have to use your own brain. Basically it's just one big lie. All "facts" are purely SOMA kind of statements. No sources, no references.

So your father has passed away that's sad but why do you blame C19 for it? I have a feeling most antivaxxers (the ones who were not antivaxxers before 2020) have become antivaxxers after something bad happened in their lives. Lost a job in tourism industry? Blame Covid! Lost a relative due to some other disease? Blame Covid! Lost a night club or restaurant related business? Blame Covid! People just seem to need an enemy. Covid is a virus so it has no owner or CEO or whatever (just like BTC does). You can't blame a virus right? But my government is saying I should stay home. Blame government! Or let's say the virus was artificially created by China! Blame China! Or big pharma is not giving away vaccines for free? Blame big pharma!  Grin

If you wife has an autoimmune disease she made a wise choice. She'd most probably die from Covid. You know that Covid is 9-12 times more likely cause blood clots than vaccines?   Cool

Staying alive is not big enough benefit for you?  Grin

No pandemic can last forever. No one is forcing you to take unlimited booster shots. In fact many governments and doctors are against it and claim only people with weak immunity should take extra jabs.

And finally: if you trust a cow breeder as your doctor/medical advisor then why not let your car mechanic fix your teeth? Or your plumber examine your wife's genitals in a gyno checkup? And I thought that was clear for everyone with IQ above 50...   Grin



1924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research on: September 26, 2021, 11:38:10 AM
Very low quality antivaxxer shit.

This statement coming from a moronic shill such as yourself, I’m sure we can dismiss.

Truly people believe what they WANT to believe.  Grin

True dat.
Wait, no more “3 BTC please”? 50 BTC maybe? If you catch my drift. Hush now.



Specifically, what in this essay can you factually disagree with? Attacking the author as "just" and agricultural advisor is immaterial. What Specifically do see as BS? I see very little, personally, that is counter to what I have known about virology, immunology, and yes, agricultural husbandry for many years. Do you want my personal credentials? GFY! Opsec.
Why not look into the credentials of Dr. Robert Malone? Or better yet, look a little deeper into the track record of Dr. Anthony Faucci... (how many died due to his stubborn insistence that HIV could be treated with a single miracle cure rather than a strategic regime of therapeutic & symptom based treatment?)


Serious questions: What percentage of Covid-19 infections do YOU believe lead to hospitalization? What percentage by your understanding leads to death? How many have died since March 2020 due to increased addiction, mental illness, and suicide brought on by isolation, fear, and economic catastrophe? How many have died due to abject failure in the medical industry to maintain sensible treatment plans for NON-COVID based healthcare treatment? 

My own father (the best man I ever knew) died from Covid policies in June 2020 even though he was tested 4 times and came up negative every time. His bronchioscopy that was scheduled as a follow-up after his successful radiation treatment had eradicated his stage 1 cancer was canceled. His pulse-ox readings were dropping into the 80-85% range. But because he was Covid negative, and since covid protocol would not allow his regular Dr's, those familiar with his specific conditions, to see him or be involved in his treatment, he was quickly discharged and put on oxygen. 8 days after his 70th birthday after being discharged from the hospital 4 times, he sat up on the edge of his bed and told my mother, "I can't breathe!" The irony of his last words, in June of 2020, "I can't breathe!" He then fell over and bled out from the aneurysm in his left lung that had grown to the point of rupturing since it was first detected in October of 2019. His Oncologist felt that it was more important to continue his treatments at that time, but wanted to look back with a bronchioscopy in February or March... Our hospitals were never overwhelmed, but the medical industry lost its collective mind! My father never had Covid-19 as my wife and I were very careful to avoid exposing him or my mother as we both went through it in May. He never had it, but it killed him just the same. I did have it, it sucked. And it cost me an additional 6 weeks of time with my father. 6 weeks of his last 8.

I had it, I beat it, and I have been exposed numerous times since. Because when the world shut down and my wife was furloughed I was needed much more urgently. After 18 months of working 50+ hours per week and traveling at least 1 week out of every month, I'm tired and maybe a bit cranky! But you tell me to "trust the science" "listen to the professionals" & "take the jab" FUCK YOU! The science tells me I already have natural immunity and due to my genetic predisposition to cardiovascular issues and blood clots, the science tells me this vaccine is not offering enough benefit to outweigh the risks. My wife went ahead and got the Pfizer vaccine. She has a genetic autoimmune issue that made it seem sensible for her even though she had already beaten Covid in early 2020. Of course that was when it was deemed 94% effective 🙄 and she has since developed a heart murmur that nobody can explain. Probably not related, but who knows?

So yea it kinda matters to me personally, so tell me Specifically, what do you see as being BS?

I've tried to avoid this topic because this is a Bitcoin conversation, (and because it's a bit of an emotional topic for me) but I greatly appreciated the link that was posted as I found it very helpful to see my own thoughts and knowledge expressed so succinctly. But you insist that it's 99% BS, and dismiss it. NO, Specifically what is factually untrue or even misleading?

Fuck him indeed, just don’t expect a solid answer. [Cuntonian group assembles]

Hahaha you totally retarded or what? Covid fucked up your unvaccinated brain completely? WO bros can confirm I've never begged BTC or FIAT money and I'm not affiliated with any group especially the cuntonian(s) whom I hate (too strong of a word perhaps as some of the posts were pretty funny). Have you mistaken me for someone else?  Sad
1925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research on: September 26, 2021, 06:39:26 AM

This is so under-merited.
Everyone should really read this. Thank you jojo, everything in one place.

Very low quality antivaxxer shit. Using a couple of real facts to make it look trustworthy to cover up the rest 99% which is a huge pile of BS. Looked up the author: why do you believe someone who's only work experience is a self employed agriculture consultant? You don't believe scientists, infectologists, pharma professionals but you do believe a retired agriculture consultant? Truly people believe what they WANT to believe.  Grin

1926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 09:20:47 AM
On the new poll: you forgot to include "never" so Proudhon, roach and gembitz can vote too...  Cheesy
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 23, 2021, 10:42:37 AM
Back then, it was almost embarrassing explaining Bitcoin to people because they would think you were a lunatic half the time..

Lunatic would be quite ok actually. Most of the time they'd think you were a scammer trying to lure more people into their dirty pyramid scheme...  Grin
1928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 22, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
https://twitter.com/i/events/1439675314217517057

Yall using your BIP39 passphrase, right?  RIGHT?



(also I suggest backing up your keys with PGP (GPG) encryption and a strong password somewhere else as well.  USB drive... archival CDR... *cough* cloud *cough*)

I would never put cash in a safe deposit box or bank. Unless this Joseph Ruiz guy has no other place to store it safely (like, at home? there should always be some place at home, somewhere, maybe.)

I may rent a cheap box in the future, but it would seem unlikely.

Don't do that. And read the fine print before you sign any agreement/contract. I was shocked to find out they in fact can't be held liable for any losses. So if the bank is robbed or in case of some inside job (keys stolen/copied by an employee) you're getting 0 (well possibly some fraction of your possessions if they're insured and you keep the receipts or some other proof of ownership. Otherwise you're screwed.  Cool
1929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 21, 2021, 07:59:52 PM
Getting sick of these dips now. Starting to doubt my confidence about new highs later in the year now  Undecided

Edit - Not selling obviously but not feeling particularly bullish atm.

Frankly, I don't believe my eyes - battle (and dip) hardened LFC is posting this bearish/chicken talk? Don't you remember the good old days of 2013 and 2017? I fear you're about to get batman slapped by Mr JJG!  Grin
1930  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 21, 2021, 07:52:40 PM
Getting sick of these dips now. Starting to doubt my confidence about new highs later in the year now  Undecided
Edit - Not selling obviously but not feeling particularly bullish atm.

 A handsome, tall black fellow, wearing fashionable yet comfortable clothing approaches you from out of nowhere. A well worn tan cowboy hat adorns his head, suggesting an untold history of experiences and legends yet to be revealed.

 You notice the man is carrying two dull circular metal plates, pocked with spherical indentations and scrapes - Clearly having been punished to their material limits.

 The man holds out the two plates, with his left arm - somehow defying the laws of gravity.

 With his right arm, he tips his hat, and mutters "You are going to need these more than I do right now".

 The dark man turns, and walks off into the western sunset.

The notorious titanium plates. How many balls have been crushed by them? Fucking legend.  Cool
1931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 20, 2021, 07:06:28 PM
The guy predicted this drop a few days ago, pretty accurately:

https://twitter.com/davthewave/status/1436080240443346944

I don't enjoy bearish predictions tho...

$43k is also what PlanB predicted for September? $47k August, $43k September, $60k October? Was it like that?  Cool
1932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 11:34:32 AM

If we follow this logic everything the government says is lie?

lol @ this strawman

Not everything. Just ignore what they say and make up your own mind. You have a fully functioning brain right? Oh wait you think this Coronavirus is dangerous ... (or do you also classify the seasonal flu as dangerous because then you are at least consistent).

Advice: Start with some critical thinking. Generally quite helpful in life.

FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

The word vaccination and deratives of it do not contain an x and certainly not 2 consecutively (does any word in the English language?). Anyway carry on. Appearently this word is for those that self identify as sheep, similarly to a pronoun. GL with life, you'll need it.

Look, this is hilarious! Where are you from? Year 2019? I can think of only two possibilities you know so little about this virus and stuff:

1. you were in a coma for 2 years
2. you're a fucking time traveler

Out of curiosity: could you please provide like 2-3 news sources you're using? (don't ask why I need that those Bill Gates's nano-robots in my blood told me to do it as I'm currently close to a 5G tower and they can transmit)  Grin Hope you're wearing your tinfoil hat right?  Grin
1933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 11:17:45 AM
So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Yes, because the unprotected are filling up the hospital beds and people that need other procedures are being delayed. Not to mention the fact that no vaccine is 100% effective. Get the population to 90% vaccinated and this nightmare goes away.

But what shall we do with the 10% left not vaccinated? Even 1% is dangerous. They will be clear and present danger for the vaccinated. Yellow stars and concentration camps?... So, get your ass prepared for booster jabs every 6 months for the rest of your life!


Infectologists (and I tend to trust the pros not some random conspiracy theorists) claim this is the last big wave we're facing now. In spring next year the virus will most likely: 1. disappear or 2. transform into some sort of a seasonal flu or 3. will be present in some regions not globally so stop being a pandemic.

But before that happens Delta will get most of you unvaccinated friends and death toll will be huge (4.55 million right now prolly not enough to make you change your mind and start treating it seriously.  Cool
1934  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 11:04:49 AM
Everyone should chose for there own, taking a vaccine or not taking it…

Agree with everything you said except this sentence. Vaccines only work if they help us reach herd immunity. If we'll have 30-40% of population vaccinated what are we going to achieve? Nothing, just 30-40% peeps more or less protected from the virus. Reaching 80-90% will most likely stop the spread completely. At least we'll be talking about some local hot spots not a pandemic.  Cool
1935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 10:58:58 AM
FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin

So ... the protected need protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that doesn't protect the protected?

This from the people who used to call me stupid?

Vaccines DO protect you. They protect you from serious symptoms and death.  Cool
1936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 08:48:15 AM
Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this.  Sad

Wow "antivaxxers"? How were you in Bitcoin early if you are such a speak, obediently parotting the newspeak of the state media?

No-one here is an anti-vaxxer (sic, as the retarded spelling is all yours) I hope. "We" are specifically against these vaccines because they are 1. Against a non-dangerous desease (comparable to a seasonal influenza outbreak) and 2. Insufficiently tested and rushed.

You likely agree with this, or were you taking the yearly flu shot before? (unless you are weak of course).

Furthermore, vaccinating the population during an active outbreak (which you advocate were in n'est-ce pas?) is a deadsin as any immunologist knows this stimulates virus to mutate and actually become dangerous. They all know this. If you don't believe me go read a random contingency plan for pandemics that predate Covid-19 (I can confirm the Brittish one explicitly states to not vaccinate during an active outbreak for this reason).

If we follow this logic everything the government says is lie? So like they're lying 100% of the time? Omg man you're heading somewhere into the full retard revolution/anarchy direction like that. Pro vaccine ≠ pro government. I have my own opinion, I certainly don't listen and abide the media or government 100% of the time.

This disease IS dangerous. If it's not dangerous for you think about people who are at risk. Remember the footage from Italy March 2020? All those army trucks loaded with coffins? Paid actors right?  Angry 

Insufficiently tested and rushed? Common misconception - mRNA has been around for DECADES! It's not a bleeding edge tech. Before you comment you could just read some articles on how mRNA and other Covid19 vaccines work. You can even find the source code of the vaccine (yes it's open source) and make sure it's harmless.

And finally, quote: "No-one here is an anti-vaxxer (sic, as the retarded spelling is all yours) I hope. "We" are specifically against these vaccines".

FFS, Mr Grammar Nazi, google the meaning of antivaxxer. Your statement is something like: "the grass is not green because it is". IQ below 10.  Grin
1937  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 09:03:51 PM
Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this.  Sad

Yes there are side effects. Every vaccine has them. Thrombosys, myocarditis etc all are extremely rare. Like really really rare 3 people out of 1 million. Vaccines are like that - somebody's child (or parent) will die a painful death. But billions will be protected from the virus. It's the price we have to pay...    Cool
1938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 17, 2021, 07:33:06 PM
Sup frens.

Just tested negative for COVID-19, so I'm out of the woods, and Rick and I both have a robust natural immunity now.

Was about what we expected, although I have not ever experienced an illness coming on "so hard and sudden" like COVID-19 did. Started feeling bad in the late morning, and by late afternoon it felt like I was figuratively smeared by a freight train. Started a slow steady recovery by day 4, and by day 10 I was feeling 95%. Day 13 today, and I'm practically at 100% again.

Heading out to the ranch this week to start checking out progress. Fun times ahead.

Have a great weekend, and don't forget to sun your taints!

Hey Bawb welcome back man!  Cool 
1939  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 16, 2021, 08:45:11 PM
But you should have $1000-$2000 on your phone  if you have a lot of $$ and they find zip on your phone it looks shady . They may go $5 wrench to unlock your phone and you do not have a dime on it.

My father-in-law owned a bar he went home with 3 bank rolls.

He would use 1 for the nervous thief
He would use 2 for the calm thief
and he had the third ready for the really smart thief

He never needed the 2nd or 3rd bank roll.

I understand the principle, but I personally don't have anything on my phone except pictures and emails, perhaps my online bank accounts (which still need a password), but no bitcoin or other crypto. That's not so strange I think.

I mean, if you get mugged and you have maybe $200 in cash on you, they will take your money and they may take the phone (which they will just sell anyway) but they're not going to bother finding out what is on that phone.

Exactly. The best thing is to not even signal that you own any bitcoin:

1. Don't store bitcoin in a wallet on your phone.

2. Don't have bitcoin screen savers on your phone/laptop/desktop.

3. Don't wear bitcoin related t-shirts, socks, ball caps, etc.

4. Don't have bitcoin coffee mugs, posters, framed art, etc. strewn about your house.

5. Don't incessantly talk about bitcoin with strangers.

6. And for gods sake, do NOT run about with a license plate that says BITCOIN, BTCLOVE, CRYPTOZ, etc.

They won't want or try to steal what they don't think you own.

... aaaand if you did one of the foolish things above it's not too late: 1. stop doing it 2. there's always a good old boating accident   Wink
1940  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 15, 2021, 07:11:20 PM
^ I actually catch myself more often thinking what china actually wants to achieve, lately.
Seems they are blindly trying to fix (economic) holes, not aware of the medium- and long-term consequences.
Short: "How to fail".

EDIT:
See, see... Bitcoin knocking at the € 41.000 door again.


It's long overdue. We should be at around $60k by now right under the previous ATH. Price manipulation at it's finest....  Cool
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