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1941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 03, 2014, 11:34:45 AM
overnight, then I will only sell to reduce the loss!
There ought to be a warning, if the price drops below 0.000095 BTC eg current!

Do you understand what I mean?



There must be someone who has the same problem, but is in a different time zone?

I am not sure I do  Cheesy So you want to sell when Nxt drops below a new high?

If you just want a warning of dipping below a certain price, an app is probably the way to go.  If you are worried about losing any money, set a sell order for slightly above the price where you bought at on Bter and it will remember this and sell if/when the time comes on your behalf while you are sleeping.
1942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 03, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Daedalus, I suppose that, with the current prices, you are not in a "loss" with your NXT portfolio!  Cheesy

I definitely loved your optimism month ago when the price was at 4k.  

You are the best example of a REAL-NXTer  Wink

That is very kind! but I have just found my niche in spamming the threads so that way I get quite well known  Grin There are 3-4 Nxters on nxtforum who seem to do nothing but testing and pushing Nxt forwards that you might never even have heard of  Cheesy

And you'd be surprised   Grin  I bought a large chunk of my Nxt for around these prices (and higher) but BTC was much higher! If we were really smart, we all would have waited until BTC had finished tanking in March ish  Cheesy

I think I said something like there is only one reason you should sell Nxt: if you think the devs can't deliver what they say they can. Since 'the devs' numbers have probably more than doubled in the last month or so and 'what they say they can' has expanded to so many projects that I can't keep up! then things are loking good for us  Cool

 Cheesy
1943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 03, 2014, 11:21:56 AM
I'm looking for a serious NEXTer in america or australia which wakes me up in the night hours with a phone call, if the NEXT price drops! I would do it, of course!

If interested, please pm me  Roll Eyes

Are you serious???

Why don't you just install this app in your smarphone?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian

 Roll Eyes

I did not know that there is such a thing! Is there this app for iphone?  Huh Shocked

Are you looking to buy low or just limit your losses? You could just set up the orders you want as a buy/stop loss in the order book.

A little more advanced, go to Nxtforum.org and look up the asset 'NxtShort'. It is designed to try and protect you from high volatility in the price if you are holding Nxt.


^

Yes, i just want limit my losses! I have to go to sleep and anxiety when I wake up I lost a lot!

Buy/stop is possible on bter?

I don't know if Bter orders have an expiry time so I can't say 100%.

But if you decide you want to sell everything for 7500 qaunts as a stop loss, put a sell order in for that. As far as I now, the order will stay there on the order book until you cancel it. Try it one night and check if it is still active in the morning/after 24 hours etc and let me know the outcome  Grin

If you are having trouble sleeping, you may have too much 'skin in the game'. Maybe consider reducing the amount you have invested too  Cheesy
1944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 03, 2014, 11:00:39 AM
I'm looking for a serious NEXTer in america or australia which wakes me up in the night hours with a phone call, if the NEXT price drops! I would do it, of course!

If interested, please pm me  Roll Eyes

Are you serious???

Why don't you just install this app in your smarphone?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobnetic.coinguardian

 Roll Eyes

I did not know that there is such a thing! Is there this app for iphone?  Huh Shocked

Are you looking to buy low or just limit your losses? You could just set up the orders you want as a buy/stop loss in the order book.

A little more advanced, go to Nxtforum.org and look up the asset 'NxtShort'. It is designed to try and protect you from high volatility in the price if you are holding Nxt.

1945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 02, 2014, 01:40:47 PM
Can anyone give a hint, if I stop forging for a few hours, turn off my computer, then come back and start forging again, I heard there is a penalty, what kind of?

I believe the penalty is a feature of full Transparent Forging, when the order of forgers is known in advance. If you miss your turn, then your forging power is reduced to zero for 1440 blocks. This is the penalty I think you refer to, to stop anyone trying any funny business in their tracks.

At the moment, we have about 50% of transparent forging implemented. It currently works on what you might think of as a prize draw/lottery. When you are forging, you are in the drawing room with your tickets (NXT) and listening to the draw results. When you stop forging, you just leave the room so can't win the draw anymore. When you come back, your tickets are still eligible and there is no penalty. Your tickets still have a specific chance of winning as before and the longer you stay in the room (forge) the more likely your ticket will come up.

This is the best of my understanding, I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong  Grin Anon136 is writing a paper on TF so has a good understanduing of what 'is' and what 'will be'.
1946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 02, 2014, 01:04:15 PM
RE: Ethereum

Is everyone fully up to speed with the capabilites (and limits) of both Nxt Automated Transactions (AT) and Ethereum?

From what I read, the impression I get is there might not be a lot in it.

RE: Turing Complete: (Tabloid style cherry picking follows...)

Quote
Turing Completeness has no real value for crypto systems, it's mainly used as a mystical totem to charm investors and the general community into thinking that they've got something useful (they don't).  The term 'Turing Complete' has been part of the Bitcoin literature for some time- because they advertised the scripts as being specifically *non-Turing Complete* as a feature!  it wasn't a limitation.

Source: Read the full context discussion @ https://nxtforum.org/automated-transactions/ats-with-fsm-based-dsl/ Skip the bits you don't understand, especially the first post (just like I did  Wink   Grin ) I think l8orre's post is the most comprehensible when talking about Turing Completeness (though it is still too abstract to my mind to grasp...)


I have the impression CIYAM (AT developer) isn't too worried about Ethereum either but he might want to correct me  Grin
1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 02, 2014, 12:57:18 PM
RE: Fee discussion...

Hubs will set tx fee by using Hub terminal announcement transactions ("minFeePerByte" field).

That is a good idea, I think, how to get this idea (market price) implement in the nxt core?

Hubs have to announce their terminals to receive transactions to, they'll also announce what fee they charge per byte. This is already implemented.

Source: Come-from-Beyond's posts on Nxtforum.org from June 1st ish.



Edit: For clarity, this means is there will be a minimum fee based on a "Nxt per byte of information", set by the hubs that process the transactions.

Hubs are likely to then compete for transactions, while covering their costs, and a market rate for transaction fees will be found.

This will also act as a spam prevention mechanism as spamming the blockchain will have a linearly increasing cost.

1948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 01, 2014, 09:15:08 PM
Voting System Update!

Kushti is looking at the voting system now, can't keep this guy down...!

I'm going to work on this. In the first place, I'll do current state of development investigation / tests writing then finishing. There are some hard questions to be resolved.
Source: https://nxtforum.org/voting-system/status-of-the-voting-system/#msg33345

I was under the impression that it would be 1 Nxt = 1 Vote but there is a selection of voting models listed here with a suggestion for implementing all of them   Grin Grin Grin  >>>>> https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Voting_System


*finishes poking the hornet's nest and runs for the hills*  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 29, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Can somebody help? I am using the official nxt client, and I sent around 3500 nxt to my account id.

It showed up after I had logged out for a while, then logged back in.

I registered a few aliases, to have an outgoing transaction like the client prompted me to, they confirmed, I exited out of the client again.

(During this time I had also added Nemstake to my asset list.)

Upon logging in the next time I was greeted with a completely new account id.... no coins. Thinking I mistyped my pass I logged out and retyped...

It brought to a different account id this time... however when I click to Asset Exchange it recognizes Nemstake.

What did I do? Where are my coins? I will tip whoever helps me solve this problem.

Thanks
-EFFV

What is your account number? Common password error is including adding a space before or after, this counts as a new password.

Is Nemstake shown in "My assets"?
1950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 29, 2014, 06:32:36 PM


You tease   Cheesy

ETA?  Grin Grin

Edit: this is Alias trading/transfer
1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 29, 2014, 02:32:50 PM
What feature do you want implemented after Monetary system?

i) Phasing - part of Account Control, can be used like Multisig, includes 2-phase payments.
ii) Mixing - mixing based on CoinShuffle approach.
iii) Service Providing - will allow to provide off-chain services for subscription payments (or for free).

Vote here >>> https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/what-feature-to-add-after-monetary-system/msg31103/
1952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 28, 2014, 05:14:15 PM
Hey guys,
I'm Zip from ShareXcoin.
Looks like Nxt will be tomorrow's winner Smiley
Our team is working on a warpper around Nxt to ensure smooth deposits and withdrawals.
Will update you guys with more info soon.

Whoop whoop!  Grin Grin Grin
1953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 28, 2014, 03:28:57 PM
A cross-coin bounty website seems like a good idea.

Everyone lists the bounties available for their coin/platform and then devs browse at their leisure, it could be a way to attract new devs to Nxt.

And it looks like someone has already done it >>>> http://coinbounties.com

What do you think? Could it give easily give us the organisation that some people crave Grin
1954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
By the way. I know for a fact that Qora is not BCNext.
He is working on a new revolutionary completly blockchain free (almost, miniature blockchain of a couple blocks max) Proof of Consensus coin. Ultra fast, ultra secure and definitely not Qora.

Links? Or in light of the discussion we have just had, any reason why anyone should believe you?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Absolutely no reason. Not the tiniest bit. Wink


Now you have admitted you are making stuff up why are you still here?

That message was just for me, (s)he sent me a PM.
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
Then maybe we should wait until we see the code before making potentially groundbreaking claims and comparisons about it  i.e. keeping our feet on firm ground  Grin Grin Grin

True...   I got one for you too...

Then maybe we should wait until we see the code before dismissing its validity and/or before attacking the effort using the exact same arguments/claims that were used against Nxt i.e. keeping our feet on firm ground  Grin Grin Grin

I agree  Grin Grin Grin

Now who was dimisissing its validity? My point was exactly what we have just agreed, we don't know anything about the source and shouldn't make any claims about it.

Hence, me wincing when I see "100% unique source code and devs invented new POS algorithms" and "get x2 profit within a month or x5 within a couple of months".  

As I can feel us going around for another circle, I'll pre-empt and refer back to my original post and people can cycle through this discussion again rather than us having to type it all out again  Grin  Grin Grin


See my objection here >>>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6991377#msg6991377 and I am happy to have agreed not to make claims about things we presently know nothing about.
We believe Qora. That's all.

+1

The paradox of all decentralised cryptos removing the need to trust centralised weak points is the HUGE amount of trust required to get them off the ground  Grin Cheesy Cheesy

Ok, I have made my points and now I am going. I give the floor to anyone else for closing statements and let's move on  Cheesy
1956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 02:25:39 PM
By the way. I know for a fact that Qora is not BCNext.
He is working on a new revolutionary completly blockchain free (almost, miniature blockchain of a couple blocks max) Proof of Consensus coin. Ultra fast, ultra secure and definitely not Qora.

Links? Or in light of the discussion we have just had, any reason why anyone should believe you?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
Then maybe we should wait until we see the code before making potentially groundbreaking claims and comparisons about it  i.e. keeping our feet on firm ground  Grin Grin Grin

True...   I got one for you too...

Then maybe we should wait until we see the code before dismissing its validity and/or before attacking the effort using the exact same arguments/claims that were used against Nxt i.e. keeping our feet on firm ground  Grin Grin Grin

I agree  Grin Grin Grin

Now who was dimisissing its validity? My point was exactly what we have just agreed, we don't know anything about the source and shouldn't make any claims about it.

Hence, me wincing when I see "100% unique source code and devs invented new POS algorithms" and "get x2 profit within a month or x5 within a couple of months".  

As I can feel us going around for another circle, I'll pre-empt and refer back to my original post and people can cycle through this discussion again rather than us having to type it all out again  Grin  Grin Grin


See my objection here >>>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6991377#msg6991377 and I am happy to have agreed not to make claims about things we presently know nothing about.
1958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 01:53:22 PM

(^^^ These are all baseless assertions, loose arrangements of unrelated truths and/or fabrications represented as cast in stone facts or, as it is apparently sometimes known, 'Qora breathing'   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)


I am afraid you misunderstood the 'Qora breathing' part...   Roll Eyes

How about we start from letting Qora breathe a little bit...  ==  allow sufficient time to develop

'Qora breathing'  !=  inside Qora/Nxt jokes

Fair enough.

Then maybe we should wait until we see the code before making potentially groundbreaking claims and comparisons about it  i.e. keeping our feet on firm ground  Grin Grin Grin
1959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 01:30:47 PM
Let's try and keep our feet on firm ground when we are talking on these forums, it is the only way cryptos will have a future.

How about we start from letting Qora breathe a little bit...  are you comfortable with some of the known Nxt supporters coming here with the same NONSENSE Nxt was getting hit with for months NON-STOP???   Huh

SERIOUSLY...  it's been months of endless discussions on various issues concerning Nxt...  but here they are being ALL STRICT with Qora that has BARELY LAUNCHED!?!?!   Shocked    WTF???  

By the way...  I am very proud to have started the whole BCNext/qora Conspiracy Theory myself...  it has already been a great source of entertainment/laughter/good times among Qora folks (some Nxt folks too actually) and hopefully it will continue!!!   Kiss
agree!It will go to moon.

Lol  Cheesy

Did you know Come-from-Beyond, since quitting Nxt, has been working on Qora as his other project he mentioned in his leaving address? Everyone in Nxt knows he is BCNext anyway. In other news, Apple are looking to adopt a crypto for its App store (something about avoiding tax) and the first emails Qora sent were well received. Word is there is a meeting set up early next month, nothing is taken for granted but it is looking very good. This will bring a lot of adoption to Qora.

Keep this under your hat but within a month, Qora will be at $40 each easy. You heard it here first, don't say know one told you when you're crying and butthurt.  




(^^^ These are all baseless assertions, loose arrangements of unrelated truths and/or fabrications represented as cast in stone facts or, as it is apparently sometimes known, 'Qora breathing'   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)



If only we all confronted posts like this one as aggressively as we all fight FUD  Grin I'll leave you to it.
1960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: May 28, 2014, 01:08:23 PM
Can I use NXT private key to hold N2?

No, don't do this with any Nxt clone. It is unsafe unless the Clone has changed the transaction format. But even then I wouldn't do it.

A 'Clone Attack' is thought to be possible by Come-from-Beyond and a couple of Nxter's are working on proving it.

****
Clone Attack
 
Clone Attack is a scheme for stealing NXTs through the use of a Nxt Clone and can only be successful if you use the same passphrase on Nxt and on a Nxt Clone that uses the same transaction format. Very Important: Do not use your Nxt Account passphrase for anything but your Nxt account. The Clone Attack is a very simple attack so could become common if people are reluctant to generate new Strong Passphrases and reuse their Nxt Passphrase in any Clone. It is described below using a fictitious clone named NEX:
 
1. You use the same account passphrase in NEX as you have in Nxt.

2. The attacker sends you an amount, say 10000NEX, perhaps at the launch of the Clone, as a giveaway or as part of day to day transactions.
 
3. Later, the attacker offers to buy 5000NEX from you for 0.01 BTC (this will always be a generous offer for the Clone).
 
4. The Attacker sends you the Bitcoins in advance and you send him 5000NEX.

5. The attacker then broadcasts the NEX transaction you sent them onto Nxt network, .
 
Result: 5000NXT is removed from your Nxt account and you only received a small percentage of its value. Again, very important: Do not use your Nxt Account passphrase for anything but your Nxt Account. Anyone can broadcast transactions from a Clone into Nxt and vice versa, if the clone doesn't change the transaction format used in Nxt. So anyone who uses the same Account Passphrase in both can lose NXTs.

****

Source: The Nxt Glossary  http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Glossary
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