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1941  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 08:25:39 AM
Shit.

Shit shit shit.

Shit shit shit shit shit.

An alternate count in my waves is making me very much less certain of a drop.

 Cry

Well, share that count bro.

Was just revisiting the 2012 correction to compare...
Seems it's ending with a diagonal C.

IF the same thing was happening now, we could very well be at the end of the bear market.
Like... right now.

But I really don't know... let's just say I'm not so sure anymore.    Cry



1942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 19, 2013, 08:17:52 AM
I care about this coin and I think it can be the best. 

So let's stay on topic and be serious. Why do you think your coin can be the best? What are the reasons behind your believe? What are the features that will make your coin to stand out?
1943  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 08:01:08 AM
Coins steadily hitting Gox, it would be a perfect time for Karpeles to announce that they are catching up with all withdrawals.

Godspeed Karpeles, we need you.

1944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 07:58:27 AM
Too many people are trying to force others to sell their bitcoins.

Care to explain who is trying to force others to do something? I've seen NO ONE trying to force others to buy or to sell. Only a delusional fool could think that his posts in here can manipulate the market. This is the speculation subforum at bitcointalk.org, where bears and bulls speculate about the price, mixed with a biggish amount of trolling and FUD spreading, because at the end of the day this is a forum and is mostly about having fun.

1945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 07:54:54 AM
SEPA transfers coming through in one day.

My SEPA Withdrawal arrived today (950€). 

I can confirm what OhShei8e says. I tested SEPA with 500 Euro.

Send 2013/07/17



Incoming 2013/07/18




I think SEPA is different than international wire because as you can see, SEPA comes from mtgox Poland Account.

Gox pulling its shit together. Nice!
1946  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 19, 2013, 07:53:33 AM
Shit.

Shit shit shit.

Shit shit shit shit shit.

An alternate count in my waves is making me very much less certain of a drop.

 Cry

Well, share that count bro.
1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 19, 2013, 07:50:59 AM
Vlad: people have been telling about "the fix" being just a copy&paste of 1 line of code in the right spot for ages, but you don't even care about reading posts in your own thread, you just care about flooding this forum with your useless mental diarrhea and your delusions of grandeur.

How retarded is that? That's your problem vlad, you don't want to READ AND LEARN, you are not interested in developing something useful, you just want people to praise your genius (Huh) and your ultimate goal is to get rich quick.

You have had very experienced people like D&T and markm chiming in, but still you don't listen - you can't listen, do you?

You're either the biggest (and most successful) troll ever or you have a serious mental problem.
1948  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win my Avalon.! Raffle Gane! Purchase a avalon for only 1 Coin on: July 19, 2013, 07:43:00 AM
Did you give up on this idea?

Yep, money refunded. Mining gold rush heading to an end.
1949  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 18, 2013, 08:41:00 PM
Twice that idiot said no more triple digits in 2013 and both times we had triple digits a few days later.
That's not wrong, that's prematurely right. Cheesy

God, you're pathetic.

Shroomsy my little friend, why do you keep reading this subforum and watching the price if it hurts so much?
1950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 18, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
So MtGox is servicing withdrawals AND we have 155k BTC to be dispersed in 4 hours?

Goodbye, triple digits. Does anyone remember those?

I'm starting to think you are mentally challenged or something.
You already looked like a complete fool twice over the past 2 weeks and you just go on like nothing happened. Just like that other delusional tool Rampion. What is wrong with you people? Don't you have any shame?
Don't you see you were wrong twice already? Do you just ignore it or what?
I'm just totally amazed by your behaviour. You really don't seem sane.

Don't be so angry all the time, it's not good for you.

“You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.” -Buddha

But its somewhat tender, like a hurt puppy (no offense intended, shroomsy). Maybe its that Avatar? I have to admit that when I see "last post by Shroomsy" in this thread I rush to open it Cheesy
1951  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 18, 2013, 07:54:05 PM
So MtGox is servicing withdrawals AND we have 155k BTC to be dispersed in 4 hours?

Goodbye, triple digits. Does anyone remember those?

I'm starting to think you are mentally challenged or something.
You already looked like a complete fool twice over the past 2 weeks and you just go on like nothing happened. Just like that other delusional tool Rampion. What is wrong with you people? Don't you have any shame?
Don't you see you were wrong twice already? Do you just ignore it or what?
I'm just totally amazed by your behaviour. You really don't seem sane.

God, Shroomsy I love you, you're really making me laugh out loud, I'm almost pissing my pants!!!!

Pure comedy gold Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin will never reach mainstream on: July 18, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
Bitcoin will never reach the mainstream because there are far too many crooks, scammers, hackers and the like preying on everyone else aswell as each other. And because of the anonymity they are much less likely to be traced.

You are mixing up bitcointalk.org with Bitcoin.

Dramatic, yes. Probable, yes.


Poorly executed piece of FUD, yes.
1953  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptsy FTC disappearance. What did I miss? on: July 18, 2013, 07:35:26 PM
FTC is under a 51% / fork for the 4th or 5th time.

http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=2847.msg21977#msg21977

http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=2846.0

Good information on previous attack:

http://imgur.com/a/fTye4#0

'There exists a Feathercoin user holding about 1/5th of all coins with the intent and capability to execute a highly damaging attack to the network and its users''

So much drama in the crapcoin universe  Cheesy
1954  Economy / Securities / Re: Cloudhashing ASIC mining contracts,-UK LTD company on: July 18, 2013, 07:33:13 PM
They are not trustworthy. I have asked for a refund and no refund.  My contract is for july and their website  said hashing would begin july 1st the pulled that page down. they now deny that and say they  have until july 31st.  this goes beyond hash rates and if you can profit using them.

 This goes to fundamental issue of trustworthiness. Do not buy a contract from them    here is a simple offer I sent them 700 usd  i paid fees to send it about 735 usd total...

 I would take a 7 BTC refund today  to my btc  address of


169F718oEA7TbZp5GVKEkqkPmzjK1FkRfB   


  coins are 89 usd as I type   7 x 89 = 623 usd  which means I would allow cloudhasher a profit of more then 70 usd.  It also mean I won't post against him since my interest is gone.

 I purchased this contract as a service to BTC and as a favor to bitminter and doc H.  I said I would post details here and on the other thread.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163741.new#new 

  If they were honest and trust worthy they would simply refund me.  If they do I will let you all know.  How many people think they will take my offer to refund at a discount?

Unfortunately no hashing very much later than june 31st. Very probably no refund.
1955  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: July 18, 2013, 07:27:04 PM
Yep, but it looks like it will take longer. A bottom by mid August seem unlikely and very optimistic.
a bottom in 2014 april will be nice .... a year full of chop chop

It won't surprise me, and nevertheless April 2014 is just around the corner. What would really surprise me is a multi-year (2/3) bear market as BrightAnarchist predicts. I really can't see how that could happen.
1956  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 18, 2013, 07:21:17 PM
The selling party can begin Cheesy

Hey everybody. My withdrawal from MtGox in Euros via SEPA is heavily delayed. It has been "confirmed" (e.g. cued for execution) for 14 days now. I complained and demanded a cancellation to rebuy bitcoins and sell them on Bitstamp or alike. They refused that and told me to wait "just a little longer" as the transfer is "in the middle of being processed" by their bank (which I find a completely inadequate and unprofessional - if not childish - description of whatever is happening to the transaction right now). I consider this as unacceptable. I wanted to share this experience with other users here so they are warned when considering using MtGox to sell their BTC for Euro. If you had comparable experience please share.

My SEPA Withdrawal arrived today (950€). 

Interesting... if they had liquidity issues they would have agreed to the cancellation as that keeps the fiat at Gox.  Seems just like bad customer support.

Not so bad, contacted them two days ago and replayed in 24 hours with a non-template email. But it seems they have been pretty much overwhelmed by the "hiatus" situation.
1957  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 18, 2013, 07:13:52 PM
The selling party can begin Cheesy

Hey everybody. My withdrawal from MtGox in Euros via SEPA is heavily delayed. It has been "confirmed" (e.g. cued for execution) for 14 days now. I complained and demanded a cancellation to rebuy bitcoins and sell them on Bitstamp or alike. They refused that and told me to wait "just a little longer" as the transfer is "in the middle of being processed" by their bank (which I find a completely inadequate and unprofessional - if not childish - description of whatever is happening to the transaction right now). I consider this as unacceptable. I wanted to share this experience with other users here so they are warned when considering using MtGox to sell their BTC for Euro. If you had comparable experience please share.

My SEPA Withdrawal arrived today (950€). 
1958  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Store Batch 3 Status just went to "Refunded" on: July 18, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
Has anyone opened a support ticket about this, or is waiting the name of the game?

Although, even with a ticket, probably still have to wait a week for Yifu to check the boards.

I just want my refund!

Edit: nevermind, submitted my own ticket. I don't know why it says refunded if no money was actually ever refunded. Will update when/if I hear anything.

We are all wondering why it says refunded with no actual refund. Maybe one of two things, first being it was a glitch in the refund process. Secondly well that scenario wouldn't be good, but we all know what it entails.

Don't be paranoid, they are just tagging the different accounts and orders that need to be refunded.
1959  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 18, 2013, 03:18:38 PM
I think Proudhon may be getting a bit outdated, in the same way that some really really old dude's rants against kings and monarchs isn't really relevant to our present economic situation. Sure, there are still a lot of old capitalists who own their vast wealth thanks to force, that there are more and more new capitalists that earned it through just capitalism. Examples of such capitalist ventures that are the new super-wealthy that didn't use force are Facebook, Apple, Amazon, and even Microsoft and WalMart. All their wealth came from innovation, and people wanting to give them money in exchange for their products.

By the way, Chomsky's anarchists don't sound all that different from anarcho-capitalists. It all only depends on whether those organic units/communities would freely give up all their belongings freely to any passerby who asks for them, or whether they should protect them and give them up to other communities in trade.

Sorry Rassah, but you lack fundamental knowledge on the matter (no offense intended). In anarchist philosophy there's no "giving all your belonging freely to any passerby", that's charity, which is a christian concept abhorred by anarchists.

First, one thing is personal property (your clothes; your furniture; etc.) and a very different thing is private property (which refers only to the means of production: the land; the factory; etc.).

Secondly, most forms of anarchism are not against the existence of free market (except for anarcho-communism), they are against capitalist free market.

Thirdly, anarcho-chapitalist don't accept state hierarchy but accept private hierarchy as the natural state of things. I'll put it silly simple: an anti capitalist anarchist would never accept to be a boss, nor to have a boss. For a collectivist anarchist self-control of the proceeds of his work is fundamental for his liberation as an individual. In collectivist anarchism the workers themselves would decide what to produce, how to produce it, and wether to trade those proceeds or not. For an anarcho-capitalist it's ok to rent his labour at market price (something that for a collectivist anarchist would mean "voluntary slavery"), as long as that its the most profitable option for him. It's basically a very different philosophical approach on what freedom means, and which do you think is the natural way to manage your own time and work.

I'l quote again Chomsky just because, while it can be criticized in many things, he is incredibly clear in his exposition, and he is a character with which US folks should be familiarized with:

Quote
"Now a federated, decentralized system of free associations, incorporating economic as well as other social institutions, would be what I refer to as anarcho-syndicalism; and it seems to me that this is the appropriate form of social organization for an advanced technological society in which human beings do not have to be forced into the position of tools, of cogs in the machine. There is no longer any social necessity for human beings to be treated as mechanical elements in the productive process; that can be overcome and we must overcome it to be a society of freedom and free association, in which the creative urge that I consider intrinsic to human nature will in fact be able to realize itself in whatever way it will."

Chomsky is quite the prototypical marxist, thus he thinks that capitalism alienates that creative urge intrinsic to human nature he mentions above. Anarchists and other marxist influenced thinkers believe that labour is a fundamental aspect of individual freedom, and this aspect shapes society as a whole. For a marxist, a worker developing his labour in a privately owned system is alienated from his own humanity, becoming a tool for others.

In a nutshell Marx's Theory of Alienation is the contention that under capitalist conditions workers will inevitably lose control of their lives by losing control over their work.

This "theory of alienation" is one of the cardinal points of The Capital, and Marx thoroughly describes 4 differents types of alienation that happen in a capitalist society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_alienation#Types_of_alienation). Understanding those points is crucial to understand past and modern critics to the capitalist system.

BTW, if you'd like to have a "soft and easy", "american" and modern first approach to collectivist anarchism you could start with this: http://www.amazon.com/Chomsky-Anarchism-Noam/dp/1458787435.
1960  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: July 18, 2013, 02:38:32 PM
Yep, but it looks like it will take longer. A bottom by mid August seem unlikely and very optimistic.
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