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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 28, 2014, 12:46:21 PM
Because you only invest in currencies with 100% unique source code and devs invented new POS algorithms?

Because you want to get x2 profit within a month or x5 within a couple of months?

Yeah, it's like Nxt 2.0 but better. Starting from BCNext renamed to Qora and ending with lots of fellow NXTers Smiley

Come on, I know you are excited but try not to blur the line between fact and pure, unabashed and unadulterated speculation  Cheesy Cheesy

Have we seen the unobfuscated source code yet? Is there a whitepaper describing the new POS algo that has been reviewed by guys who know what they are talking about? Do you know BCNext is involved or is it just a claim the hype the coin? (although not the first one I have seen)


Let's try and keep our feet on firm ground when we are talking on these forums, it is the only way cryptos will have a future.
1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 28, 2014, 11:29:57 AM
In other News...

Ludom, creator of the goldmine innovation that is MICoins ( Cheesy ) is getting married today  Grin

I'll be busy the rest of the week, no transfers until monday (I get married tomorrow Cheesy).

Congrats Ludom!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

If you feel like creating a wedding related meme for him, post it here >>> https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)(micoin)the-most-interesting-coin-in-the-world-pure-90-pom/200/

... and if you include a reference to MICoin and your Nxt address, you will get free MICoin to your account  Grin
1963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 28, 2014, 11:11:54 AM
Digital Good Store Update:

Kushti has begun testing in the last day or so....

I have implemented automated tests for DGS functions. All is fine, the only minor glitch found is discount in delivery could be more than price.
1964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 27, 2014, 09:41:20 PM
spartans you failed me

This very blackcoin  Cheesy they even superimpose the logo onto the shields

Not how I roll   Grin

don't follow their thread. i asked a half a dozen times how they protect against dos from people registering as participants in a coinjoin transaction and then failing to sign the transaction and never got a satisfactory explanation.

I don't, followed it after the start of the dump for a while. I asked what happened to the fees people paid and no-one could give a definitive answer  Cheesy
1965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 27, 2014, 08:35:00 PM
CoinShuffle for the Nxt core anyone? Care of Come-from-Beyond's twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/comefrombeyond/statuses/470813812317487104
1966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 27, 2014, 08:24:28 PM
spartans you failed me

This very blackcoin  Cheesy they even superimpose the logo onto the shields

Not how I roll   Grin
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 27, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
Is this different to the ForgeCoin asset?
1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
Apparently....


Another painful news;

Mintpal:
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The DRK/BTC market is currently frozen because of fork issues, we will bring the market back when the issues have been fully resolved.

Poleniex too. Suspicion is they are trying to stop the dumping... all cloaks and daggers stuff right now  Cheesy
1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
DRK having a bad day.
NXT #4.
Nice.

Dammit, beat me to it   Wink

+1  Grin
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 07:31:12 PM
TXTCoinNow added to my humble Asset Exchange Listing, since they are our partners are the PayExpo 2014  Grin Grin

PayExpo 2014 Nxt put up alongside Barclays and not another crypto in sight  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Good work Nxters  Grin Grin

More info on PayExpo >>>> https://nxtforum.org/payexpo-%28london-june-11-12-2014%29/

Asset Exchange Listing >>> https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-62/asset-exchange-ipos-launch-day-listings!/
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
Also... Nxt Arbitrary Messages are not encrypted by default. And visible to everyone if you know where to look   Shocked

Encryption is implemented in the client and I believe Offspring is the only Client so far with it up and running.

Encryption will be added in the next update of NRS/Wesleys client (according to Wesley)  Grin
1972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
If anyone was wondering if we would get Alias Transfer or Digitial Goods Store, Wesley has said they are being implemented together.

Which makes sense  Grin

https://nxtforum.org/alias-system/alias-transfer/msg29224#msg29224
1973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 12:40:16 PM

However, if this thread starts to turn into another debate about the GW issue, I will happily start deleting posts from both sides.


+1
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 26, 2014, 11:41:16 AM
No one coming to this thread wants to read this.


Take it outside.
1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 25, 2014, 09:00:56 PM
All Of You ! Please Check This Out!!!

https://www.palth.net/newcoin

Great, Mxt is already listed!

Wait a minute...

  Cheesy
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 24, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
Regarding 1), as previously stated, seems Qora coin doesn't have this problem. So can't see this point valid.

Qora is a newbie right now. Let us wait.

But relax, fees will be lowered. Smiley

About 2), I believe noone is forging to get NXT as the outcome is scarcely a few cents even if you have a semidecent stake. I believe people will still forge and lease forging power, therefore, secure the network. Don't think the problem of a fork is real as it can be planned frmo block X (like, 1 month in the future) so people have enough time to update. Either way, people need to update very often atm.

It costs ALMOST nothing to forge. This almost is well compensated by fees, right now.

I'm relax. And I'm not using it so much to be worried about fees. I'm thinking about the system. Why 1 NXT per fee? I don't want an answer like "it will be done" or "it's ok right now". I want to know why it is better  1 NXT than 0.1 NXT (for instance). It costs nothing to forge, that's true, but what's the point? Precisely I'm saying people will carry on forging and therefore 1 nxt fee was/won't never be an incentive to forge at least in the short-mid term.

DLXS

It s one Nxt as Nxt wasn't divisible until NQT was launched a few weeks before AE. The Devs are working on Alias Transfer and Digital Goods Store atm and see this as a higher priority than reducing the fee (which takes more work than changing a variable in the code). Fees are likely to be moved to 'per byte' on the blockchain basis, which will require coding doing for it.

From my experience, Fee change is not seen as a high priority unless you are running/planning to run a tipbot type service, encrypted messenger service, want to be a trader etc etc.

I want lower fees, as I am told it allows some very interesting projects jl777 is working on. But I'm in no rush. Perhaps we can recruit another Java dev to take this on ?  Cheesy
1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 24, 2014, 11:29:51 AM
Anyone interested in slightly more concrete info on what Qora is, here is a quote from Jean-Luc (one of the main developers of Nxt core) who has scanned the code:

Quote from: Jean-Luc
It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2.

The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation.

As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on.


Hype/P&D from this what you will  Cheesy Grin Grin Grin




Great! I'm glad such people are looking into Qora. It says a lot.

Guys on Nxtforum asked him to, he didn't do it of his own free will.



(Let the hype begin !  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy )
1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 24, 2014, 11:12:13 AM
Anyone interested in slightly more concrete info on what Qora is, here is a quote from Jean-Luc (one of the main developers of Nxt core) who has scanned the code:

Quote from: Jean-Luc
It is not a clone, at least not a clone of the recent code. The code is obfuscated (probably proguard?) and I don't have time to dig further, but seems to be using a lot of third party libraries that we [Nxt] don't use. Uses jetty, and json-simple, but also jackson and mapdb, no H2.

The developer has definitely borrowed ideas from Nxt, but probably not much from the current implementation.

As for the speculations that it may be BCNext himself - not his style, remember the original Nxt code did not use any other libraries (even the jetty dependency was added later by CfB) and was a single file. It is more likely a good java developer who started from the original Nxt 0.4.x code like I did, but then continued his own way into a completely different implementation. But all this may have been intentional, to confuse people - so the conspiracy theories will keep going on.


Hype/P&D from this what you will  Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 24, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
the price is cheap now

Cheap based on what?

A price of 50 sat is about right currently.
The coin has not proven itself in any manner. It is working but there are no reviews about the code and the client is far from being polished.

Mind though, 50 sat gives Qora a market cap of around 2.5 Million Dollar, placing it around position 20 of coinmarketcap and in the vicinity of Monero.
NXT had a similar position at this point of its development, so this is not bad, but appropriate.

Further development and people that work for the coin will bring the price up to about 200 sat. If everything works out fine we will see about 500 sat in a couple of month. Placing Qora at around 25 Million US $.

Actually it's 70-100 satoshi. Nobody sells at 50. Such price put Qora right under MaidSafeCoin which is about right considering things you've said. With polished client, web/mobile clients and features dev is going to implement we'll be in top 5.



There is a definite an information imbalance in this thread. Someone uncharitable might call it manipulation  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I'll leave you guys to it
1980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: May 24, 2014, 10:16:37 AM
I have seen in two places that the code is obfuscated, can anyone confirm this (the second in the link above)?

If so, then comparing one Nxt source to Qora, by definition, will have "no obvious similarities".

Does the dev post in this thread?
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