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21  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: January 23, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
I do not feel this need always. Gambling for me is not a need but a way of fun. I sometimes find my self fedup so i try to have a short experience in betting in order to feel some stress. But in general we need to gamble when we do not have money so we are trying to earn w good sum to cover our needs.
Yeaaa that's was not something new , a lot of people don't want to gamble for the sake of money only.
But the reality says different , you do try to be realistic and idealist to avoid gambling addiction but then you remain addicted sigh.
Don't come to a casino if you cannot gamble responsibly , it is all about responsibility basically , yeaa to accept whatever happened in the past .
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Headed to $40,000? on: January 23, 2018, 10:20:25 PM
Yes this prediction will come in this year. Because demand and supply bitcoin still high. So this year will shine for bitcoin.
I really sure bitcoin will come over $ 40,000 in this year. Many of my friends bitcoin will increase much in this year.
But let's see, hope the best for bitcoin !
The same scheme seems will get repeated year after year where bitcoin get crash in the early year to skyrocketing in the last year.
It is happened since 2015 and now we might could make the previous ATH get doubled or even more to $50k .
The data is there proven everything , bitcoin getting strong in community and grow significantly. What are you waiting for? Buy it now!
and you pay attention to the fact that the price per transaction, as well as their duration, has increased significantly. But her transactions are hanging and this is becoming a very big problem for many users. I think that this situation will also greatly affect the prospects for Bitcoin in the future.
Unconfirmed transaction for long time is indeed annoying and has big impact on bitcoin growth lately.
A lot of people even prefer to not using bitcoin anymore because of that reason , at least for now until everything get solved.
It makes us a little bit pessimistic it could grow better and with higher price than before.
23  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pump and Dump. How to make a profit? on: January 23, 2018, 04:22:33 PM
There many pump and dump channels in Telegram, it's hard to find the legit ones. Anyway i think it's illegal and risky.
Nothing is free, I do not trust the telegram signal and soon get away from them. Unless there are groups that offer their services with monthly payments. A friend once suggested it and I'm still hesitant and it's quite expensive.
there is no perfect analysis except experience.
The pump and dump basically are a scam attempt behind good and planned trading style.
Just look at the market gap between the buy orders and sell orders , if there's anomaly then you should curious is it a pump? Or a dump?
Both circumstances are similar , but yeah you cannot predict everything accurately , don't get fooled and learn more.
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: FJ site no withdrawal fee and received my payment within few minutes on: January 23, 2018, 04:11:28 PM
First time I used FJ site and I didn't know that we need to wager 2X times to withdraw money but after depositing then realize that part. Luckily I won some money and met that requirement. To test withdraw my winnings and deposited money all received within few minutes and no fee paid.

Very happy and may use their site again.

Is there any other gambling sites don't take withdrawal fees?

what do you mean by 'we need to wager 2X times to withdraw'?. Is there any deposit promotion going on? Or everyone who is depositing there has to wager 2x irrespective of promotion. I have been playing there for quite a long time but I stopped playing there when they removed binary options trading from their site. I am also aware of there 100mbtc daily give away but unfortunately for the past two years I am not able to win it, earlier it was 1000mbtc.
Anyway, good luck with your future journey with fortunejack.

Yes, it is clearly stated on FJ Terms and Condition but it is not a part of the deposit bonus. Deposit should be wagered at least 2x before players are able to request for withdrawal, this rule is related to anti money laundering. FJ does not charge any fees for withdrawal so I think it is reasonable for them to have this rule to avoid people who are going to use Fortunejack as a mixing service where people may deposit then withdraw it directly without playing.
As being said by chris200x9, it is not so hard to wager 2x of the deposit but to be honest I do even think that Fortunejack will not too strict about this rule for their loyal players who are really playing as long as the account is not suspected as a bad account.

Really it does not matter whether ''clearly stated on FJ Terms and Condition'' or not. In my opinion, it is not right. There are many trustable casinos out there without demanding any rollover requirement when you play with your own money. The basic principle is if I am not availing any deposit offer than I should be able to withdraw my funds at any time. Money laundering and another kind of shit must be the responsibility of law and order maintaining authorities let casinos stay out of it. Anyway, it is my opinion based on my limited knowledge if you think otherwise it is also perfectly ok because players still playing there with their own hard-earned deposits and wagering 2x for withdrawal. Grin
It is just their effort to avoid money laundering , seems not right and unprofessional but it could work really.
Well so far they have a lot of new high roller come and go there , they know the rules and did not complain about it.
Just the matter of choice , you don't like it then go ahead avoid to play there , i personally honestly feel not comfortable with that kind term , don't know why.
25  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Q for Bitcoin gamblers. Are you affected by high transaction fees? on: January 23, 2018, 03:56:17 PM

Right the fee is same but the number of transactions is less. To reduce the transaction fee, you can convert your BTC to ETH and send that coins to your buyer's site and sell your coins. Anyhow now all local exchanges are using both BTC and ETH. I have one more option I can sell BCH to fiat this saves a lot of money.

Using another altcoin is what we are trying to avoid here. We need to start using the solutions available to us in Bitcoin. So please educate yourself and know more about Segwit.

We cannot allow ourselves to use inferior coins just because there are obstacles on the road. As Bitcoiners we should do our part too.
The scalability problem in bitcoin never get solved properly and quickly , we cannot do much but waiting.
For sure to use bitcoin as micropayments recently isn't worth , no wonder people switch their purpose in bitcoin as an investment .
I am not sure with the lightning network could reduce the transaction fee but for now that's the only thing we can expect to have a low fee.
26  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: return as soon as possible and win back your losses . on: January 22, 2018, 11:59:07 PM
Don't make the wrong seem right. Trying to win back your losses can lead to more losses. Might as well try to move out from it sometime. Its really so easy to say to stop it right away but its really the right thing to do. You try to resist your eagerness to win it back. Its like think before you decide.
There's nothing wrong with the statement , it is just a not finish statement lol.
You might win back your losses , but remain with a little chance to achieve it.
No matter when you have got a 40 losing streaks or so , the odds will always against you and guess what happened when you do it? A temporary winning with a bad loss ending.
If everyone knows that what's gonna happen at the end then what is the reason for such a call? It's kinda putting someone in situation and not only situation in fact you are trying to invite people to destroy their lives. People will lose the little leftover they have in trying to win back. Gambling should no more be treated else than fun based. Even if you lose money in it you will not feel bad for it because you were not with a mind to win money but only to have good time.
That's true , mostly people always get lured to make money easily through gambling.
They thought there's nothing better than doubling your money , they forgot that basically you will never successfully make it profitable.
The money you have lost , everyone should let it go and walk away without regret without any purpose to recover it all.
27  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: One more leg down - price to 8000 - 9000 area? on: January 22, 2018, 11:51:13 PM
I'm with you, OP

I haven't sold any, Ive been buying & hodling since November, and just learning about more cryptos along the way.
These market fluctuations seem fairly standard and I plan to keep everything I have until the end of 2018 at least.
I'm quite excited to buy at lower prices.  Grin
If you can afford to hold it longer i think that's fine as for now the recovery won't happened soon.
The price seems in bearish and cost a lot of time to bounce back at least for a couple months and for a year at top.
Really it is struggling to even back to $13k , a lot of peoplefrustated already.
28  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Bloodbath.. on: January 20, 2018, 09:16:24 PM
For first it's seems so strange for me, but read some trader prediction for Bitcoin is always happen every year on January and february the price down and will recovery on next month and get next all time high.
Get used to it , crypto market is full of risk . Which means the possibility to get super huge profit is there.
People don't want to sacrifice to have a bad moment before they could receive a sweet unexpected winning.
That's crypto where patience, waiting on the drop is really being  tested , try to relax!
Yes we need to be patience here because every dump there is a pump that enabled us to earn a profit and we should not join the flow of the market when its going down because it maybe manipulated by some people that are planning to dump but later on they increase the price so that they can earn a big profit and the people who sold their coins in the dump losses their money.
The point is you need to have some estimations on how the market run whether it will stay crashing for long or just for a while to move up back.
At least when you have a prediction , you will know what to do next and you won't regret it.
For now it looks like a temporary crash , once people feel confident to buy back what they have lost the recovery could be run faster.
Now is the best time for buy back, bitcoin price reaches below $10000 is a good time to collect more and hold till ot reach 20k again, as well in top alts, there are plenty of alts now especially 2 days ago that almost hit their bottom, when we do see potential for such project or cpin, buying it now is a great opportunity.
Some people thinks that the current market situstion is like a bullish trap.
It looks bullish but actually it will remain the same get stuck at the level of $11k to $12k to get drop again untill 28th of january.
Where the future contracts will end and big money involve there to do a massive selling , it is makes sense but not really accurate.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Headed to $40,000? on: January 20, 2018, 09:08:44 PM
Yes this prediction will come in this year. Because demand and supply bitcoin still high. So this year will shine for bitcoin.
I really sure bitcoin will come over $ 40,000 in this year. Many of my friends bitcoin will increase much in this year.
But let's see, hope the best for bitcoin !
The same scheme seems will get repeated year after year where bitcoin get crash in the early year to skyrocketing in the last year.
It is happened since 2015 and now we might could make the previous ATH get doubled or even more to $50k .
The data is there proven everything , bitcoin getting strong in community and grow significantly. What are you waiting for? Buy it now!
30  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: January 20, 2018, 08:56:51 PM
I will not continue with the game. This is the last money for my fuel home and I can't use again in the game
 Better I get home safe in my own car and try and get some money and Come again another time than to lose the fuel money and walk or ask for a free ride.  That one too do come with some consequences. Since you have no idea who the person you are riding with is or what will happen to you when you try walking home.
An emegrency funds shouldn't be used for any other purpose especially for gambling.
You won't get back home with better mood when you do allin as you feel upset to get a losing streaks.
Just play it with the money that you can afford to lose , don't force yourself and gamble like a crazy addict.
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: End of 2018, bitcoin $ 40,000 or more? on: January 19, 2018, 06:04:01 AM
I think (hope) too that bitcoin price will be much higher than 40k$ at the end of the year. With the jump it did in 2017, a lot of people are now aware of bitcoin and will eventually invest in it.
That's the problem , people tend to expecting the same thing could happened again year by year.
That is okay as long as there a lot of factor support it especially about those people who put a lot of money in bitcoin for long term.
Or maybe better when there a lot of company start accepting bitcoin as their payment processor.
32  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how improve trading on: January 19, 2018, 04:50:19 AM
Learn why you get lost, psychological, time and everything you need to analyze. Most traders, experiencing losses due to haste factor or careless in making decisions.
Mostly failed get profit because of the greedy , people never feel enough.
So i think to always set a realistic target and do learn about bankroll management all the time could help you out.
Also train yourself to control your emotion and then you might won't make a hurry decision anymore.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the year of other altcoins? on: January 19, 2018, 04:08:03 AM
There will always be new coins to replace the old ones and this has happened in the past, where the top altcoins from years ago become irrelevant.
Actually it is depends on how certain altcoin has a realistic vision or not.
When a new born altcoin just come up without clear mission and pretty obvious looking for a quick gain and dump it all then there is no future for that kind altcoin.
So far i cannot see bitcoin itself could be replaced by any altcoin , not even with the recent bitcoin fees issue.
34  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's mindset! on: January 19, 2018, 03:44:48 AM
Of course everyone wants to win and everyone wants to win big time. You are not going to play to lose right? Regardless of how small or big is at stake your aim when you play is to take profits. That's why some comes up with strategies or techniques on how to beat the house.
And yet they are failed to make the dream come true , everything about expectation in gambling will remain as a dream.
Having a steady income it is nearly impossible and so do with having a continuous winning it is the same impossible .
You do know hard and impossible to beat the odds , but you did it however because of the gambling psychology problem , yeaaa an addiction there in your head soaring.
35  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm officially sick of the bitcoin price right now... on: January 19, 2018, 03:34:35 AM
50% correction  lol f#&$ this market
Yep correction and fud, but them together BTC price will drop and enter those with large bag of money to buy coins sold by noobs. Cant blame the noobs for selling early, they are not yet used with BTC price. If Ihave money to spare, I should have some more and ask for a picture.
after this huge "correction " FOMO gone , I invested  @7k sold @ 16k and and now it's 11k but I'm not buying. Bitcoin will not cross $20k this year.  People now dreaming even for $16k
Indeed the market really so struggle to come back to $16,000 it is the fact.
But there is another fact where bitcoin worth only $1,000 and people confidently say it won't crossed even to $2,000 .
For sure noone know about the future of bitcoin price , we just know that out there a lot of people waiting to buy bitcoin at the right time for them , and guess what will happened to the market? The price escalate quickly!
36  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Bloodbath.. on: January 19, 2018, 03:11:31 AM
For first it's seems so strange for me, but read some trader prediction for Bitcoin is always happen every year on January and february the price down and will recovery on next month and get next all time high.
Get used to it , crypto market is full of risk . Which means the possibility to get super huge profit is there.
People don't want to sacrifice to have a bad moment before they could receive a sweet unexpected winning.
That's crypto where patience, waiting on the drop is really being  tested , try to relax!
Yes we need to be patience here because every dump there is a pump that enabled us to earn a profit and we should not join the flow of the market when its going down because it maybe manipulated by some people that are planning to dump but later on they increase the price so that they can earn a big profit and the people who sold their coins in the dump losses their money.
The point is you need to have some estimations on how the market run whether it will stay crashing for long or just for a while to move up back.
At least when you have a prediction , you will know what to do next and you won't regret it.
For now it looks like a temporary crash , once people feel confident to buy back what they have lost the recovery could be run faster.
37  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is it possible to use bitcoin like offline currency? on: January 18, 2018, 03:54:59 PM
bitcoin is not designed to be like a real money which you can hold. what im sayin is it is only a program or data which which you can access using internet, you have your wallets on your gadgets or online because it's the only thing that can keep your online currency.
Of course you can always hold it physically , just print a paper wallet and design it just like any other offline currency.
Of course fund it with certain amount and voila you can see it just like offline currency and spend it.
The only problem is bitcoin lack of interest for the offline store , especially recently a lot of government around the world planning to regulates any kind bitcoin transaction.
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: Theory on the real cause of today's chaos on: January 18, 2018, 03:21:54 PM
Pretty old and recycled theory. I think there has been a lot of evidence, maybe not enough proof yet but there is more research that indeed finds some behaviors of manipulation going on in exchanges, especially since early adopters held a lot of coins, big enough, if working in groups, to make price movements desirable for them. I think a lot of the whales made profit since November, and now they are preparing this crash so they can buy back into crypto even more. Imagine all the Tethers waiting to buy now.
51% attack the only thing that i can see as a legit proof of any kind price manipulation.
Otherwise it is just a random speculation , for sure yeaaa theory just a theory , that's how decentralization works to change the value.
A new Big holder won't resist to have more than 20% loss , the massive cutloss causing another bitcoin holder do the same and so on.
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this a good time to start buying bitcoin or should i wait? on: January 18, 2018, 02:48:47 PM
Yes it is a good time to buy bitcoin because the price is very low but actually bitcoins value now is still low if you will not compare it to those who bought bitcoin a couple years back. The price has been corrected so I’m sure it’ll try to recover sooner than expected.
Watch it and while you do it keep buying step by step .
As noone knows it could increase crazier than before or get another crash to the lowest like to 5k or even worse.
Everyone should remain careful on the current bitcoin market situation , noone can predict it correctly.
40  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: January 18, 2018, 02:24:01 PM
Actually gambling has no good effect even if they say that for entertainment purpose only, what if you lose do you think it will be okay for you? No, right? Because you will do everything inorder to retrieve all of those money that you lost. However, it is still depend on us on how we will manage our time and money upon it.
I think that in most of the culture and society look gambling in a good sense. A gambler has a bad reputation in the community and overall people don’t like gambling and gambler as well. That’s why a gambler has never benefited from gambling. When something is not good how you can take benefit from that. I want all the people to leave gambling and work hard to earn money and not from gambling.
It makes sense quite a bit because most of addicted gamblers are bankrupt at the end who become no less than ulcer for the society. I think gambling is only a hobby for the upper class who are wealthy enough to bear loses also they are quite cool than the others. They know to how and when to end up the rounds. There are a lot of wealthy gamblers but none of them receives hate from the surroundings if they win or lose they don't really bother it. In the other case for people like from hand to mouth suffers a lot from gambling and thus are not respected.
That's true , those people who have a lot of money is the one and only who can truly treat gamble for entertainment.
Otherwise you will force yourself to do something that you cannot afford .
The risk in gambling is indeed never worth when you do continuously and crossed the limit , so yeaa just stay away if you cannot control everything include your emotion.
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