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201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: December 08, 2017, 01:25:18 AM
Its weird but i believe in superstision especially if i gamble in a land base casino or playing online. I always rely in my horoscope if im going to win if i gamble this day and i followed the lucky numbers, colors and even bought a lucky charm recommended for me. However i know that it has nothing to do with your faith whatever your business is but believing in superstition doesnt bad at all.
It is really fun when you gamble with some ritual rather than straight to play it .
I do believe that it gives you a lot of fun but i do not believe it could make you win or something like that.
As long as that superstition makes you comfortable , noone have rights to stop you doing that.

True! And let me add on that, as long as while you are exercising your rights, you have not transgressed on the rights of others, there is no stopping you from believing and putting into actions all those superstitions. There are people who laboriously rely on superstitions when gambling and they may say it caused their winnings. But you know what, sometimes you create your own luck. It is not totally because of the superstitions you shovelled yourself into. Just so to be fair on all sides, to each his own.   
Superstitions help people to gain more confident , since they believe on such a winning factor caused by anything you do.
They will always thinking positively , and at least with that way it has a little bit influence into the way you making bet , it might make you cooler and patient.
You might get lost at some point but with the superstitious action you have you won't get rushed to make a madness bet.
Sometimes what we think is wrong and being superstitious does not really affect our winning chance in gambling.
We can always have fun with being  superstitious but in the end we will still belong to the losers, what is even worst is when we keep doing what we believe will give us a win when it's pretty obvious that we will not win against a house edge.
That's true but behind the supersttitions there is a priceless entertainment you know.
You will never find that kind fun anywhere else , but with superstitions people feel the thrill in gambling more than just do a random bet.
Actually there's always a pros and cons and if you take a look to that you won't see any bad things caused. So that's just fine.
202  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: December 07, 2017, 02:13:54 PM
of course it's very risky. for professional traders, they always trade with some altcoins, because if you only use 1 bitcoin alone, then your coin development does not increase, because only expect 1 bitcoin alone. you should use altcoin and ico. but with a note you must be smart and experienced in trading.
Never I will put the majority of my cash in one place even in bitcoin on the grounds that I don't believe that anything in this world is steady with the goal that we can full trust so we require think about everything and great choice is that you can keep more cash in bitcoins and some cash in altcoins that will give you great outcome.
Yeaa , bitcoin is considered as a high risk investment , understand about this and you'll know why.
The volatile makes anyone who involved here always has chance to lost their value drastically.
But if you can afford to take that risk , it might really worth.
203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 07, 2017, 01:48:42 PM
People love making money and love winning it even more, so they go overboard. Because by gambling, there is always the opportunity to make money instantly And depending on how much you are willing to gamble with, you can make lots of money instantly.
That thought leading people to an addiction i am sure , they think the winning chance always there but actually it is not.
I mean seriously the chance for anyone to make it profitable for your long term journey is nearly impossible.
Stay away from gambling if you cannot hold yourself and be patient to looking for legit profit from another way.
204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need some gambling strategies on: December 07, 2017, 02:34:09 AM
I don't think any strategies will work in gambling.Because it's just depends on luck so if your luck goes with you, you can win big.Or else you can be empty handed.All I can suggest you that bet on sports.Because in sports we can imagine which team is strong enough to win the match.So,IMO is Sports betting is profitable if you knew sports very well.But sometimes it can give you lose also.
Yeaa any kind strategy! As in the end it will always luck based . That is why it is called gambling.
Everything uncertain , everything cannot be affected just by making strategy and use it , no way indeed , too delusional.
Things won't run as you wish in gamblibg , full of disappointment.
205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: December 07, 2017, 02:15:49 AM
Whether gambling is a sin depends on your own morals. For me I see nothing wrong with gambling I gamble for fun not profit. I can see how some cultures can see gambling as a sin as there are problems associated with it that can affect people and the people about them.

That's true it depends on how you'll take things deep or light. When we gamble and we don't intend to hurt other feelings then that is just fine and you are not robbing others money then that's going to be a good thing as a gambler.
Considering gambling itself for those people who believe it is a sin because it feel like robbing money from other people.
I mean you take the other people money when you wager and won it as in the other side there is someone who lost at the same time.
If you don't believe in that kind thought and just feel it fine then it is okay.
That's by far in my understanding when you believe that you are robbing from others money just because you are gambling?
It's quite different feeling that when you gamble you had to think that way, I believe that there might be people who are thinking that way but they are few.
Few but there is , and it is could be a big deal for them .
As long as you feel you are not makes other people in disadvantage then fine go ahead continue it and don't feel guilty.
It is just for some people who feel that way and reasonable enough isn't it? How can you win on that 3x multiplier for example, where it come from? It come from other people losing! Simple make it as a sin for them.
206  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: December 07, 2017, 02:06:20 AM
You can always get disappointed in trading. It is the proper handling of emotions and take a good solution is important when you are dealing with some losses and do some mistakes.
Too much disappointment might could be mean that you are do trade in the wrong way.
Look at yourself and fix or improve your current knowledge to acquire a new skill not just trade such as gamble away your money.
Money management and emotion management is the only thing that could makes the difference.
207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: December 06, 2017, 12:51:23 PM
It is not possible for the price of bitcoin to go lower than $1000, cause there are too much people who has heavily invested into it, and the only way (which is not possible) it will go low will be there is a heavy sell of bitcoin and investors leave the trading section of bitcoin/crypto world.
Yeaa that's true , a lot of support achieved and make everything looks like impossible for bitcoin to get dropped as low as $1,000.
Especially there is several fork planned in the near future , a lot of people interested in getting that easy money.
I personally look at that phenomenon as a bad effect to the bitcoin ecosystem.
208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: December 06, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Its weird but i believe in superstision especially if i gamble in a land base casino or playing online. I always rely in my horoscope if im going to win if i gamble this day and i followed the lucky numbers, colors and even bought a lucky charm recommended for me. However i know that it has nothing to do with your faith whatever your business is but believing in superstition doesnt bad at all.
It is really fun when you gamble with some ritual rather than straight to play it .
I do believe that it gives you a lot of fun but i do not believe it could make you win or something like that.
As long as that superstition makes you comfortable , noone have rights to stop you doing that.

True! And let me add on that, as long as while you are exercising your rights, you have not transgressed on the rights of others, there is no stopping you from believing and putting into actions all those superstitions. There are people who laboriously rely on superstitions when gambling and they may say it caused their winnings. But you know what, sometimes you create your own luck. It is not totally because of the superstitions you shovelled yourself into. Just so to be fair on all sides, to each his own.   
Superstitions help people to gain more confident , since they believe on such a winning factor caused by anything you do.
They will always thinking positively , and at least with that way it has a little bit influence into the way you making bet , it might make you cooler and patient.
You might get lost at some point but with the superstitious action you have you won't get rushed to make a madness bet.
209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 06, 2017, 12:10:08 PM
It is just that trading is an wiser way compared to gambling. In gambling, you just depend on luck. In trading, you'll surely earn a decent amount of profit if you have patience and hardwork.

I guess it's a right term, trading is a wiser way to take the risk or gamble with your money. Gambling is different and has various ways on how you are going to make or grow your money. Also in trading if you had lost a lot of money you can still recover it by just waiting for the coins you are holding to be pumped again while in gambling, the more you hunger for recovery the chances of losing is big.
Sometimes you become more greed in trading , so it is not guarantee anything at all.
Depends on how you can manage the bankroll and making strategy in it for long term purpose.
As things make gambling and trading different is on the long term result it is pretty much different.
210  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you decide when it's time to sell? on: December 06, 2017, 11:51:08 AM
I would say it's situational and logical decision to sell Bitcoins at any given point.

Nobody wants to have a loss on their investment, so wait until you achieve a handful of profit to your investment and analyse the trend closely before selling, sometimes your profit might be higher than expected.
Yeaa it actually will always conditional , you cannot just set certain limit for no matter what reason.
It will only ruin your trading decision , sometimes you can only did it spontaneusly , not with a planned one.
I mean you need to have a good analysis skill to be able predicting the future market , otherwise it will always based on speculation. Buy and sell it follow the trends? That is the most simple way.
211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: December 06, 2017, 11:34:50 AM
Poker at this moment of my life, when I was younger I used to leave my paychecks at my town casino playing Black JAck.... for my own luck it was
almost 6 years ago.. I quit other kind of gambling games at early stage of my life, right now I do play poker recreational and manage to make a couple of bucks
every month .. abouyt 100/200 usd UP the months I win and when I lose is about 50/80 usd. I commend people to play poker instead other casinos games.
Poker will always be favorite game besides sportsbetting i guess , a lot of people know about that even never play it before.
The game is so easy learned , often played also as a fun game without any wagering in it.
I personally choose sportsbetting , as my passion is on sports , love to watch the game and put some bets!
212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: December 05, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
At least with math you can see the odds how much you win the game , will it be worth or not etc.
But yeaa i don't know if there is a certain technical way to do math to make you have higher chance to win.
For me Those people who knows well about math might stay away from gambling just like what einstein said about to win a game on roulette always impossible .

We can only know the odds but we know that even with maths we cant win the game. So for me it is just to troublesome to figure things out with math. It is better to just let everything flow in accordance to what the thing is. We cant win in gambling and we need to be aware of that. That is why it is better to forget everything and just play for fun
Yeaa that's my point , people looking for some excuse to win the game.
The outcome will remain unpredictable and random however , so math isn't an answer to make you win but if you think by knowing your chance by do the math as a helpful one then be my guest.
Playing like nothing to lose always better way to gamble , but hard to make it stay like that all the time.
213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: December 05, 2017, 01:24:41 PM
I think it is not a shameful thing do gambling. But depend on the culture of country or area, people might see that as a shameful or unsuitable thing. Some people identify gambling as a illegal thing, done under the coverage of police and when they get caught and get beaten by police kind of thing. But gambling is available in legalized form and with a clear set of rules.
That's true depends on where you live in , environment have a big role on affecting you treat gamble itself.
So yeaa i can say basically nothing wrong with gamble , just the way people look at you and you react on it.
Some people indeed even proud on what they have achieved in gambling . You just never live that way.
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 05, 2017, 10:32:38 AM
You could actually be smart at gambling when you win a lot of money then once there is point where you lost twice don't play it once more, make sure the money that your money was doubled then you lose little by little stop playing it so you won't lose all the money that you won throughout the day of gambling

No point of winning a lot of money if you don't play smart. It's not the right way of calling gambling as smart way just because you win a lot of money. You can't be smart just because of winning, it's either luck or you are just good at that game. How can you be smart if you can't save some when you are on the time of winning? or you don't know what to do and take care of those winnings?
I don't know if that smart way to gamble even exist , it is just the matter how people recognize your work.
I mean when you gamble in the long run and successfully make it profitable some people says that you have done it in smart way.
But also there is a group of people who just think about how dumb you are thinking about make a living through gambling.

If the game is based on pure luck, then all of your winning games or sessions are just that you are lucky that time. However, if the game requires some good skills like poker and sportsbetting, then that is really the time where you have some form of control in your bets based on your skill level and thus giving you more chances of winning the more skillful you are at it.
Skill might work at some point , but seriously you cannot rely on it everytime.
As you will always beaten by the house edge in any way , treat gamble as your occasional activity , not as a hobby.
So it is up to people around you whether they want to recognize you are as a smart one or not in no matter what effort you put in it.
215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: December 05, 2017, 04:34:47 AM
Investing is always smart thing to do, because you have better chance to make profit in long term. But in Gambling 99% chance, you will lose it.
exactly investing is also more profitable because many people are gambling daily and losing lot of funds which generates a huge amount of profit for us rather than gambling which depends on our luck and you can lose more
no question about that, its just an honest opinion that investment inside trading is more profitable than gambling all you have to do is to understand the flow and find the edge and advancement in order for you to gain a lot with your investment.
that is right in trading you can actually predict whats going ti happen in future and you get a idea weather you should hold or sell but in gambling you are simply trying to satisfy yourself and hoping that next time you won't repeat the same moves and get a profit
No both trading and gambling is so speculative , you guess something and wager something on it.
Just the matter of what factor and how the proccess making that prediction? Trading/investment much more reliable here.
So people run to invest rather than gambling , no doubt it is the most reasonable and makes sense decision.
gambling cant be speculative only sports betting is speculative to some extent otherwise its not possible
because all gambling activities are basd on luck trading is also some sort of risk taking but it works most
of the time
Lol , when you make a random prediction that time things goes speculative dude.
You don't know what the outcome will be , and just put the money on it in hope gaining some profit as a bet!
Really so similar trading and gambling , sometimes you cannot even spot the difference among both.
216  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading vs holding on: December 05, 2017, 04:26:11 AM
Trading would be very effective if one does it right, however some skills would be usefull for passive income by trading, I recommend holding a coin till the value goes 2-3x and most of  the time the coin will get its all time high, just invest in some of the best projects around and in a few years you will will some very good gains.
Trading feels like useless when the market goes in madness , move like 20% to 40% within a week .
Just compare it when you do trade in that interval and just simply holding it .
The result holding will have better profit , even so far! I do have experienced in the last few weeks , and it was full of pain.
217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need some gambling strategies on: December 03, 2017, 04:31:02 AM
If you always play gambling dice like long time that is not good base on my real experience because after many bets it always lose at the end, if i suggest you a strategy do it like bet after 3 hours gap then make a big bet but it still no assurance to get win you can lose also but the chance is big base on my experience in dice, Moreover i suggest you to play poker here in bitcoin and the player is people not computer
That is more to a superstition rather than a strategy for me , and even yourself cannot guarantee it  Roll Eyes .
There is no strategy that can make you win , but there is a lot of atrategy out there to make the game more fun.
People have to know about this , otherwise it will always make you keep imagine something that impossible to happen.

There is no guarantees in gambling, but there are ways to relax yourself and have better gaming experience and higher chances for winning. Taking a break can be a good thing if you lose a lot of money fast, your next steps after big loss can be make more disaster to your bankroll, so chilling and taking a break is better then lose everything in one session.
Poker is better game then dices, with that I agree. With dices you can lose a lot, and poker have more limitations and game is different. With couple dollars you can play poker for a long time, in dices that amount is nothing if you play progressive and double every next bet.
Dice even makes you get stressed no matter what strategy it is , forget to play there if you wan to live well.
Poker is better with a lot of legitimate strategy such as bluffing , put a poker face etc.
That is what i call as a strategy , useful , give you some fun not stressful.
218  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade at multiple exchanges? on: December 03, 2017, 02:16:10 AM
Yes i trade on multiple exchange because sometimes there are altcoins that i want to buy and sell but don't have in one exchange. My other reason of trading in other exchange is to diverse my funds on different exchange to minimize the risk of losing my money in one exchange if something bad will happen.
That's true , besides by trade at multiple exchange as arbitrage opportunity.
You should never trust anything 100% online in this case an exchange as you might have seen several "trusted" exchanges turned into a scam one.
Separate it for security reason is indeed a good plan .
219  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: December 02, 2017, 10:31:30 PM
According to your scenario, this won't really affect bitcoin's price because the one who dumped are two persons only, the small drop on bitcoin's price can easily bring back by the large number of investors out there. But if we assumed that all the holders dumped their btc then I'm very sure that a very big drop will occur, and that's only the worse part. The worst part is when all holders dumped their btc already and no one wants to buy it again, when this happens, bitcoin will become valueless.

The existence of bitcoin or any other currency depends on Buying and Selling. If one of this became unbalance then something unfavorable might happen for us.
Only those will go for selling off bitcoin who do not have sound knowledge about the currency but those who are experts in this are not going to sell off their bitcoin at any cost. Rather they will start buying bitcoin at cheap rates.

I can bet my all bugs on this that bitcoin is never ever going to lose its value because it has very strong market by now and has already made a lot of people damn rich.
Not really the opinion you tell here is a true one , an experts sometimes have to make a cutloss in the panic selling time.
You know why not everytime the price freefalling could get revovered.
The cutloss itself could be done for different reasons , i mean everything about bitcoin is uncertain you might really have to follow that kind panic selling trends.
220  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dividing your salary. on: December 02, 2017, 10:13:00 PM
Hello, as we all know that Bitcoin is heading straight to the moon. Me, as an employee, do also invest with this cryptocurrency, and I kinda need to divide all of my salary for my needs, and on how much should I invest in? Let's talk about percentage. Anyone?

That is actually a good idea. I usually do this as well whenever I want to invest on something. I believe that it is safer to divide than to invest on something on full amount, I guess the earning would be high as well, still I consider that move as a gamble. The most safest way that I can think of is maximum of 60% of the salary can go to investment.

I think 60% is too high mate. Its only good for anybody that have very big salary.
If the salary is small then 10% is maximum. Why? Since we need to survive, buy some food for family is number 1.
No no no, for me, maximum amount for investment is 40% or even 30%, because I need to have money for saving and for my family. You can not live without money, your salary from main job is the primary of income for your family. If you spend ~60% of that amount, how do you have money for saving and family?
The most important is on how comfort you are managing your bankroll .
If you feel your 50% out of your income is your best choice to invest and won't have any big trouble when it comes to daily expense.
I think it could be worth , in the future the return might makes you like have found a fortune!
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