as he was one of the earliest forms of "trust police" around here. While yes, I did monitor the various marketplace subs, and did put a lot of effort into research in stopping various scams, I largely followed the standards you are advocating for, perhaps also including when someone *attempts* to do any of what you believe is acceptable for negative trust -- if someone makes a serious attempt to steal, but are unsuccessful, I think in most cases others should be warned. I can't recall any instances in which I added a new "rule" that others had to follow to avoid getting negative trust, as many on DT1 have done in recent time. I would say making him a merit source and keeping a close eye on him would be a reasonable thing to do and a net positive for the forum.
Thanks. That's a shame about QA, I didn't know about that situation.
I looked at the situation when it was posted in this thread. My opinion on the situation is QA should have resigned from his position as merit source instead of doing something he (should have) knew would get himself fired. From the looks of it, he had concerns about the merit system, and about the forum in general -- he could have voiced his concerns to theymos privately, or publicly, and they may have been addressed if theymos agreed, and if QA was still not satisfied, he should have resigned, or otherwise stopped giving out merit. His underling concerns appear to be around the newer users of bitcointalk (who needed merit) to be more focused on various altcoins (and ICOs) than on bitcoin. The only way this could be addressed would be to limit the ability to discuss altcoins, and/or limit the ability to run ICOs and bounty campaigns. However both of these generate a lot of page views (ad revenue). I believe a lot of these people come to bitcointalk because of the altcoins, and if the altcoin discussion and ICOs/bounties were not allowed, these people would migrate to other platforms, however being on bitcointalk can give these people exposure to bitcoin they might not get on other platforms. |
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You assume this is not a scam -- it may be. I am not sure how good fiver is at resolving disputes when the final work product is not delivered via their site.
As others have noted, the price they are selling merit for is very expensive, and is probably not cost effective for a shitposter to buy merit to rank up, assuming they get blindly accepted into a signature campaign with enough merit. It might be more cost effective to rank up to junior member status so they can do things like post pictures, verses buying a copper membership, but I think this is less bad.
Even if someone does buy enough merit to rank up, campaign managers should screen applicants enough to reject anyone who posts garbage, even if they have a lot of merit.
The OP removed the picture of the ad, and I am having difficulty finding it on fiverr. There is also the risk the administration will reverse any merit purchased if they figure out who is selling merit, and this would not be difficult to do -- all they would need to do is purchase a single merit from the ad, and look at their other accounts by looking at their browser fingerprints.
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You are absolutely allowed to participate in the forum as a moderator but that doesn’t give you the right to do whatever you want — you are held to a certain set of standards as a moderator.
When you are posting anywhere in the forum you are wearing a ‘staff’ tag and as such it should not be unreasonable to expect you to be professional.
When I step over the line I assume theymos is a big boy and will let me know. BTW what does my "attitude" have to do with my ability to clean up shit in P&S LOL. I am voicing my opinion on the matter. I am not referencing your "attitude" I am referencing your professionalism, or lack thereof towards other forum members you are supposed to have authority over when they post in your section, and that you have influence over everywhere. The above does not directly affect your ability to "clean up shit" in your section, it reflects on the forum itself via your 'staff' tag, and calls into question your ability to handle issues in a mature/impartial way, including issues within your section. |
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I think if he was around he’d be blamed for people losing money in free markets, called a scammer for his holdings, and would be a target for jealous individuals who were unhappy with their own lives. Pretty much the same way every other successful long term member here is treated. Hence why we’re becoming more and more rare.
Your username really should be eGONasty. My point exactly. You were a "target" there for making absurd claims showing your own ego doesn't correspond with reality, not because you're a "successful long term member" I think OgN speaking out against a certain group of people has made him a target... I think it might be a mixture of both. If you operate under the assumption that OgN has an overly inflated ego, or is delusional in terms of his success (I don't agree this is the case, but hypothetically...), I don't see any reason why anyone would want to harm his reputation -- if this was the case, he would do this to himself. However, OgN criticizing a certain group of powerful people does give an incentive to these people to try to discredit him to allow them to maintain power, and ultimately the income derived from said power. |
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Sometimes you just come across posts that are bad enough, that you just wish you could do something.
This is what the report to moderator button is for. I think the OP isn't talking about spam or plagiarized posts here. OP is talking about posters struggling to make a point in a post but then can't because of their lack of coordination or inability to use well the language of communication. That is what the ignore button is for. I explained why a "demerit" feature is bad here[/ulr] (including my post that was quoted). |
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I am no expert, but I don’t think it is best to be bullying a forum member in a meta thread complaining about rules allegedly being broken. It is probably not appropriate at all for a moderator to be doing the same at all all in any public thread.
If you don’t want to deal with his rants, your choice are to ignore him (including not publicly talking about him), or put up with the rants. If you want to chastise him, you should expect a response.
Read your own post and feel free to ignore me asshole! I am also a user of this forum and to my knowledge being staff does not preclude me from participating in any discussion I feel like commenting on. If it is I missed that memo. It isn't my "job" to hold anyones hand and make them feel all warm and fuzzy, if I see a stund cunt I am likely to call them a stund cunt! It is my "job" to clean up shit in the P&S sub, that's it. Perhaps if people would use their own fucking brains instead of looking at title or trust or merit things would start to get a little less wild west scummy around here, I know I know I'm a dreamer at heart! You are absolutely allowed to participate in the forum as a moderator but that doesn’t give you the right to do whatever you want — you are held to a certain set of standards as a moderator. I have no problem dealing with your outbursts and it doesn’t trigger me when someone disagrees with me or says something I don’t like. When you are posting anywhere in the forum you are wearing a ‘staff’ tag and as such it should not be unreasonable to expect you to be professional. |
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I think if he was around he’d be blamed for people losing money in free markets, called a scammer for his holdings, and would be a target for jealous individuals who were unhappy with their own lives. Pretty much the same way every other successful long term member here is treated. Hence why we’re becoming more and more rare.
Your username really should be eGONasty. My point exactly. You were a "target" there for making absurd claims showing your own ego doesn't correspond with reality, not because you're a "successful long term member" I think OgN speaking out against a certain group of people has made him a target... |
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Isn't there like a company or something we can use as an escrow? How come everybody is listing individuals as escrow?
It is difficult to gauge the risk of using a company escrow service because anyone can create a website with fake reputation. There are probably 2-3 legitimate escrow companies and many more scams. There is also a bit of a bias towards themselves among those who make these lists. Unless you are using LBC to engage in a fiat <—> BTC (or altcoin) trade, I would avoid nearly all escrow companies. |
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I am no expert, but I don’t think it is best to be bullying a forum member in a meta thread complaining about rules allegedly being broken. It is probably not appropriate at all for a moderator to be doing the same at all all in any public thread.
If you don’t want to deal with his rants, your choice are to ignore him (including not publicly talking about him), or put up with the rants. If you want to chastise him, you should expect a response.
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Ideally, all posts should be good. I'm still considering creating a thread in which I delete all posts that don't earn Merit, but it doesn't really fit any board.
All posts start out as not having merit and some posts don’t earn merit for some time after they are written. Also, it would be difficult to have a conversation if some posts are getting deleted because no one gave it merit. |
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The merit system is not for posts you agree with. It is for posts that are objectively high quality, or to otherwise draw attention to the post because it deserves reading.
Well, you're right. And people should definitely use merits in that way. But it isn't really farfetched to think that people are using it as a sort of "like" or "upvote" system. I mean, I've seen a decent number of sort of "meme" replies that has been given merits. But yea, this is the reason why I think a de-merit system wouldn't work and could potentially be abused. Yes, some people use the merit system in ways in which it is not intended, unfortunately. I don’t think that is a good reason to create a new system (or add features to the existing system) that cause people to use the merit system in a way that it isn’t intended in greater numbers. If anything, changes should be made to disincentive the use of merit as a “like”/“agree” system; I am not sure this is possible though. |
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Sometimes you just come across posts that are bad enough, that you just wish you could do something.
This is what the report to moderator button is for. Well, occasionally, there would definitely be some posts that aren't necessarily report-worthy, but you simply just disagree on; especially for the more debatable and more controversial topics(like the big/small blocks topic). But yea, I don't think a sort of de-merit system would work. I'd just prefer that people would school/call-out the craptalkers. We all know how easily a sort of downvote system can be abused, as evident on Reddit. The merit system is not for posts you agree with. It is for posts that are objectively high quality, or to otherwise draw attention to the post because it deserves reading. |
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You have been deliberately trying to expose me and Marco and saying that we both are same personalities No. there is blockchain evidence that your account was at least at one point owed by Marco. There is a password change (one) that makes it possible that you purchased the account from him. I don’t subscribe to using “personality” to link two people together. |
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Sometimes you just come across posts that are bad enough, that you just wish you could do something.
This is what the report to moderator button is for. |
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What happened: I won at auction a lot composed of two Lealana's 1 LTC coins. They never arrived and seller pocketed the coins ; stopped replying. Here is what happened : [...] Then the parcel got stuck at customs for quite some time, and I got a letter from them asking me for an invoice for these items. I contacted customs to sort it out, and they released the parcel from customs without notifying it to me. [...] Finally, customs were able to give me the outbound tracking number (they changed it once the parcel arrived in my country) Unfortunately, the parcel went on it's way back to DebitMe, as there was a lot of lacks in communication from my country national post, customs and DebitMe. In the end, I have no Lealana's and no korns : I'm out of 0.05 BTC here.  Since then, I PMed DebitMe several times asking for a reply, and I notified him that unless we sort out the matter, I'll have to open this thread. [...] Why was the parcel returned to DebitMe? It seems the parcel went from being "released" from customs under a different tracking number (going to you?) to going back to the US to DebitMe without an explanation. |
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You just repaid a loan not long ago. Why are you taking out another one so soon |
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If I had any sMerit left, I would give this post merit.
for obvious reasons you don't. Correct. I have received the 99th most merit out of every forum member, and the 29th most generous recent merit giver. you are probably lean towards "older members prioritizing theory"
Perhaps you should review my posts, or ask my opinion instead of blindly assuming my stance on issues. Your statement is a prime example why you are unqualified to play any role in forum politics.... |
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When that consensus was reached that all members ought to be tagged regardless of who it is, it was from that point forward--and that was only a few months ago.
I am not sure it was a consensus, but was more like a small number of people who are very loud in voicing their opinion. |
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Tagging scammers is great and all but just because someone finds or tags a lot of scammers does not mean that they should be in charge of the politics of the forum or even have their political opinion highly valued. Which is DT1..
Their is a delicate balance of freedom vs control and I'm not sure many newer users understand the importance of the freedom part and the old values that this old forum has upheld all this time.
If I had any sMerit left, I would give this post merit. I have noticed a lot of newer users are trigger happy when it comes to tagging users, and a lot of the time, they do not even try to defend their position when challenged. Some of these users receive a decent amount of trust for "tagging 'scammers'" and don't engage in trades, or very few trades, and are in DT1. I have also noticed some users (also new), also call out many scammers, but seem to go largely unnoticed in terms of receiving trust, and don't get anywhere near DT1.  |
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Filled, update incoming.
Loan sent to staked address as discussed on telegram: b2e7414fb755f9ef9872e80b00c63ded8e85f17d533e979de3bfafb2671bf83c Please repay to bc1q45n2uvxt3h9ta5zfnhtfcslgeyv5rk9qt7fav6 on or before 8/4. Thanks I think this is a risky loan and would have mixed feelings if/when the loan is repaid. |
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