Just as an idea. Perhaps in the interim the devs could "officialize" one of the existing wrappers. So that not particularly technically inclined newcomers could just have a simple means of getting involved without having to do a bunch of research and be worried about getting their moneroj stolen from malicious code in the wrapper. Just you know to lower those barriers to entry for new and non tech people, that way we can have better distribution. |
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we can use gateways like https://shapeshift.io/ to make payments using monero even in a world where its illegal to accept monero as payment. Just to check if https://xmr.to did not pass under your radar. It didn't but i completely forgot what it was called and was looking for it. I actually came here to ask the question that you just answered  . Does anyone know if there are any plans to get that gateway working both ways rather than just the one? Or if im just missing how to use it to convert btc into xmr than please tell. when we talked to them ( the xmr.to devs) for the podcast, they didn't seem too excited in developing in that direction, but might consider it at some point. Why are u interested in the other direction? Just an easy way to buy more XMR? Yes. If the premiums were reasonable I would definitely prefer to use a service like shapeshift to buy xmr rather than dealing with an exchange. |
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we can use gateways like https://shapeshift.io/ to make payments using monero even in a world where its illegal to accept monero as payment. Just to check if https://xmr.to did not pass under your radar. It didn't but i completely forgot what it was called and was looking for it. I actually came here to ask the question that you just answered . Does anyone know if there are any plans to get that gateway working both ways rather than just the one? Or if im just missing how to use it to convert btc into xmr than please tell. ShapeShift.io should be adding Monero soon. Well that is exciting. *edit* Does anyone have a source for this? |
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we can use gateways like https://shapeshift.io/ to make payments using monero even in a world where its illegal to accept monero as payment. Just to check if https://xmr.to did not pass under your radar. It didn't but i completely forgot what it was called and was looking for it. I actually came here to ask the question that you just answered . Does anyone know if there are any plans to get that gateway working both ways rather than just the one? Or if im just missing how to use it to convert btc into xmr than please tell. |
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Btc is a trojen horse with monero inside waiting to pounce the moment society lets it through the gates. I saw all this coming this almost right away when I first learned about bitcoin and how it worked. You couldn't have planned it better if it was planned. If satoshi had created monero governments all over the world would have out right outlawed it and it would have been extremely difficult to get capital into and out of it. But he created bitcoin not monero. And when TPTB saw bitcoin, they were overcome with greed. They saw the potential to track everyone's financial activity and so they let it slide. But now monero is a thing, so even if they do outlaw monero, bitcoin provides a sort of gateway or conduit to get into and out of it even in a world where monero is outlawed. Even if the government leans on businesses to prevent them from accepting monero, we can use gateways like https://shapeshift.io/ to make payments using monero even in a world where its illegal to accept monero as payment. Its so exciting. Nothing will stop this trend. I wish more libertarians understood this trend and what I just described, if they did than there would be a great deal more optimism in our movement i think. |
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Most optimistic, monero is the vanguard that not only protects the integrity of what vestiges of a free market we have now but further leads to the creation of a true free market renaissance and destroys the state in the sense that it will be forced to fund its self through voluntary donations only. In this future sure some are wealthier than others, but just like how modern day poor are in some sense wealthier than kings of old, even the poor in the future will be in most ways better off than billionaires today. Most optimistic, monero makes everyone wealthier in ways that we cant even begin to imagine, even people who never touch the stuff.
*edit* though i think its more accurate to frame this in the context of a broader trend of decentralization of which monero is a small (or potentially large) part rather than to put too much weight on the shoulders of this particular project specifically.
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Is it true that the devs have no plan to develop an "official" gui? I think i remember reading that some where or hearing someone say something to this effect but i don't remember where.
No, they are developing an official GUI. See here for a road map of development goals: http://getmonero.org/design-goals/hey thanks for that link |
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Haven't done the approximate distribution analysis recently, but due to reasons outlined in previous analyses, I believe there are 5-8 people with 100k or more at the moment. 100k XMR is < 100k USD, so we are talking about tiny amounts. There are that many people capable in showing a big sell side and an almost unlimited number of people capable in putting bid walls. The market is so tiny that a manipulation for its own sake is doomed to lose. If the intent is to acquire or divest coins, faking the opposite is of course termed as "manipulation" but the whales have so much going against them due to illiquidity, how about just allowing this to them?  A successful speculation is buying low, selling high, and (I believe) not going to momentum trading, at least if the amount to be traded with is higher than X00 XMR. Hey risto. How much xmr do you have to have inorder to be considered a whale? Curious to see if i count. |
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bitcoinwisdom moved xmr to the top of the list. any theories why? maybe its by how often the link is clicked?
24 hour volume rank sure enough right you are. i looked at the today volume and the 7 day volume but for some reason didnt look at the 24 volume. silly. |
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bitcoinwisdom moved xmr to the top of the list. any theories why? maybe its by how often the link is clicked?
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Is it true that the devs have no plan to develop an "official" gui? I think i remember reading that some where or hearing someone say something to this effect but i don't remember where.
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MoneroWorld Weekly Digest 3/11/2015 Hey i got in this one . Thanks for great work as always! |
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Climate destruction deniers are and aways have been the paid shills of the fossil fuel industry
You got me dead to rights. Exxon mobil is paying me 7 dollars for this comment alone. To clarify, I was referring to the handful of scientists who sold their integrity to the fossil fuel industry. Not rando internet dipshits. No one cares what we think. Never forget that arguing with the willfully ignorant is a fruitless exercise. If they wanted to know the truth they need only Google. The rest of the world is content with the overwhelming consensus of climatologists. You realize everything you wrote apply to you too? I understand you believe exxon and shell are home monsters under your bed, keeping people knowing the truth about AGW. You can't believe the global warming scheme is breeding as much power and money, if not more. Why not? Because the cause is just, even if the science is not settled? That is not a logical or scientific way of arguing against "deniers". Unless, of course you believe in fairy tales and dragons and magic hammers. I believe in scientific method. I believe in climatology. I believe in evidence. What do you believe in? Fox fucking news? Sweet mercy of Satan, save me from these people. Show us a single climate model that has had a reasonable amount of time to be tested empirically against real world data which has made accurate predictions about the future. Go on. Produce it. You cant because nothing of the sort exists. But i mean who needs any of those things when you can just insult people and appeal to authority and appeal to population. We aren't propagandized by fox news. I would be extremely surprised to learn that any of the frequent contributors to this thread watch fox news even semi regularly. We just reject bullshit fallacious arguments. You cant come up to us and try to emotionally manipulate us by saying things like "The rest of the world is content with the overwhelming consensus of climatologists" because we know that's a logically fallacious argument. You on the other hand don't seem to be aware of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies read it. familiarize yourself with it. |
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Well. I submitted hodl to urban dictionary with the following definition:
hodl: A long term commitment to uncompromisingly retain possession of a thing without regard for any changes in sentiment or market conditions.
And the following example:
I know ill end up shooting myself in the foot if i try to day trade my bitcoins, so I'm hodling. I'll check back on price when it's time to retire.
They rejected it. I don't know why. If someone else wants to try to resubmit it, go for it.
That's an awesome definition! Why did they reject it??? I think I would change "thing" for "currency"or something similar, if you mention market conditions after. They probably rejected it because they didn't understand it. democracy  seems reasonable to people at the left side of the bell curve but eternally frustrating people on the right. Good definition! You can submit it to urban dictionary haha ok i tried it, lets see if it gets accepted. it was accepted Thank you Anon 136, we shall always be grateful to you. Next stop the Oxford English Dictionary I think you may misunderstand. I added a new definition for democracy. They steadfastly refuse to accept hodl.... |
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Its funny people say bitcoin cant be considered money yet because its not a unit of account, but to many people who mess around in altcoins it definitely is a unit of account.
i'd say most of the people who are in bitcoin longterm (i bought my first at the first 30$ mark) realize its usefulness as a currency. i fear many people who got in later are not there yet. i never sold a btc: but i spent some as it reached 1000$. so - just as you - i value monero in btc and not in eur Maybe some day we will value our btc in terms of monero  |
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Thank god the "bit" part was removed from Monero near the launch. I think Monero has the best name out of all the currencies both crypto and government based, and that extra "bit" part was just eww.
This just had to be quoted. That nick, that comment, made my day.  Truly though, Monero is absolutely the best name, even better than bitcoin. No shit, no coin, just money. Bitcoin was a fine name, because there were not 100 other coins (or even one) with similar names it was copying. coming soon: fonero, lonero, jonero, ponero..... Not quite what you were thinking, but only two letters different than monero: https://moneta.cash/Looks like Zerovert recycled. I had a discussion on reddit with one of the devs (Poramin) about it (he claims the name is in no way influenced by monero): http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2xcimf/bushidos_new_crypto_monetas_what_do_you_think/coyyoboThe catch phrase is hilarious! Moneta: A crypto currency that helps significantly improve bitcoin. I cant stop laughing! |
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i have to admin that i bought some XMR, in fact i bought double the number i keep in btc. and i did it before this rally what do you think about the price? where are we going ? Many, including me, are still underwater and we do not intend to sell at loss nor even profits that represent peanuts. I am personally willing to see how this saga ends. Will I become a millionaire or will I continue poorer than I would be if I would not invested into this. This describes me as well. My monero is not for sale. At least not at any price anywhere near what it is now. just out of curiosity: do you define "underwater" in btc or fiat? When it comes to altcoins I conceptualize value in terms of bitcoin. Bitcoin is my point of reference. So bitcoin. Its funny people say bitcoin cant be considered money yet because its not a unit of account, but to many people who mess around in altcoins it definitely is a unit of account. |
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i have to admin that i bought some XMR, in fact i bought double the number i keep in btc. and i did it before this rally what do you think about the price? where are we going ? Many, including me, are still underwater and we do not intend to sell at loss nor even profits that represent peanuts. I am personally willing to see how this saga ends. Will I become a millionaire or will I continue poorer than I would be if I would not invested into this. This describes me as well. My monero is not for sale. At least not at any price anywhere near what it is now. |
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Thank god the "bit" part was removed from Monero near the launch. I think Monero has the best name out of all the currencies both crypto and government based, and that extra "bit" part was just eww.
This just had to be quoted. That nick, that comment, made my day. Truly though, Monero is absolutely the best name, even better than bitcoin. No shit, no coin, just money. Bitcoin was a fine name, because there were not 100 other coins (or even one) with similar names it was copying. coming soon: fonero, lonero, jonero, ponero..... |
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You know its funny. People like us are called conspiracy theorists simply for pointing out that climatologists have a very strong incentive to exaggerate the severity of AGW. But when you listen to true believers everything is part of some monolithic conspiracy to these guys. If you question their narrative they will actually accuse you of being paid by "the oil companies" or "the koch brothers". Literally if you make some hokey little low production value youtube video dissenting to their narrative than they will say you must have been paid by "the oil companies" to make that video. These true believers are some of the biggest conspiracy theorists on the planet. I don't say that to be mean, i believe in several conspiracies myself, the point i want to make is that main stream culture never marginalizes these people in the way it does other conspiracy theorists. Its interesting. It seems that the culture creation industry doesn't have anything against conspiracy theories on principle. It seems that it doesn't like particular conspiracy theories and so attempts to marginalize the proponents of those conspiracies by pretending as if there is a principle of conspiracies are invalid, but then as soon as its own pet conspiracies are brought to the fore... crickets...
Not really about warmies so much as it is about the culture creation industry in general, of which AGW is a part, but related at least, and interesting i think.
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