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2021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: February 04, 2021, 05:08:26 AM
Of course, IPL is more important for BCCI because BCCI earns a very large amount of their revenue from IPL. On the other hand, 38 teams participated in the Ranji Trophy. This is a very big tournament. Organizing this tournament requires a lot of preparation. On the other hand, organizing IPL is much easier than that.

My only concern is about the domestic players. Only a few dozen out of the hundreds of domestic players have IPL contracts. So in case the Ranji Trophy is cancelled, will the BCCI pay full salaries to them? As far as I know, the salaries are paid according to the number of matches played, as there is no contract system in the domestic sector. So obviously if the tournament is cancelled, then the players will be left high and dry. And in case the BCCI is making some sort of payment, how it is going to distribute the same between the players?
2022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why was Musk so late to the party? / or Publically support BTC on: February 03, 2021, 12:29:59 PM
Though Tesla may be highly valuable than bitcoin in terms of market market Cap,  at the present time but I feel with the trend of btc the future market price of btc will be incomparable to that Tesla.

The difference is not that large. Tesla market capitalization as of now is around $827 billion, compared to the Bitcoin market cap of $675 billion (the total cryptocurrency market cap stands at $1.086 trillion). However, if you check the ROI, then Tesla is performing better than Bitcoin. During the past 12 months, the Tesla stock went up by a massive 460%. The same figure for Bitcoin is 269%. But then, I feel that it is not right to compare an EV manufacturer with a cryptocurrency. Both of them have very good future potential, but apart from that there are few similarities.  

BTW, 12 months ago BTC had a higher market cap compared to Tesla ($183 billion vs $147 billion).
2023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: February 03, 2021, 12:05:31 PM
Yup, again I watched an highlight where West Indies players all around the game and they are looking to hit six for every balls from the very first balls which is the actual cricket?

And the radius of cricket ground also should be reduced and probably they are trying to bring the international cricket into gully cricket. Grin

It is not just the West Indian players. A total of 60 balls are available to the 11 players, which works out to 5-6 balls per player. What are they supposed to do, other than hitting sixes? As the duration of the game reduces, the importance of the bowlers also goes down. In T10, the bowlers have hardly any contribution in the matches. It is completely dominated by the batsmen. IMO, we should not reduce the limit to less than 20 overs. For me, 20 overs is the limit and if you reduce it any further it is simply not cricket. For me, T10 resembles like baseball.
2024  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: India makes ownership of Bitcoin criminal offense - How to respond? on: February 03, 2021, 10:43:37 AM
Regardless of them, their governments don't like this and everyone has to abide by the rules and the country in which they live. I think this is not too new in this market, and then everything will come to an end for this market, it will not happen and vice versa we still see Bitcoin with new values. I remember many countries claiming to ban the use of cryptocurrencies, and gradually I see them accepting and studying it Smiley, like that, we will see their government again one day make another decision.

During the initial phase (around 2014-15), there was a lot of misinformation related to Bitcoin and that was when a lot of the countries tried to ban cryptocurrency. But that changed once it was known to all that only a minuscule fraction of the Bitcoin transactions are linked to illegal transactions. A lot of the countries which previously tried to ban them reversed their decision and made Bitcoin legal in their jurisdiction. But India seems to be moving in the opposite direction. They are trying to ban Bitcoin, although it was legal earlier.
2025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The acceptance of cryptocurrency worldwide on: February 03, 2021, 07:52:41 AM
Unpopular opinion: Though there's zero doubt that it's better, Bitcoin doesn't need to be "accepted" by every country's governments and accepted by most merchants to be "successful".
Absolutely, it doesn’t just need mere acceptance by countries. Bitcoin is already successful, more success will depend on usage and per the value of bitcoin in recent times, you need no one to tell you that bitcoin is a success.

We don't need acceptance or endorsement of any kind. But I would like the governments to leave cryptocurrency on its own, without much external interference. Almost all the users are willing to pay whatever taxes that are due on trading with cryptocurrency and a majority of them are willing to undergo the KYC process as well. For the honest governments, there is nothing to worry from cryptocurrency. However, the case may be different for those countries with highly manipulated markets and economy. In such cases, the citizens may use cryptocurrency as a store of value, and the government authorities may not be comfortable with such usage.
2026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you buy 1 bitcoin and hold for years in your own offline wallet, taxes? on: February 03, 2021, 07:14:37 AM
It is all about what if buy BTC for $1000 and want to sell it for $50000.
But I am wondering, what if he buy now at $34000 and after one year they want to exchange it on fiat, but then Bitcoin worth $20000. Whether in that case, he can claim the tax back because it has lost the value of the investment. But he paid tax on $34k amount.
It can be a rhetorical question.

Tax on capital gains can be reduced by adding in capital losses. I am not sure whether this can be done in all the jurisdictions. So if you have $30,000 gain from one trade, and a $15,000 loss from another, then you need to pay tax on $15,000 only. Then also, there is something called FIFO (first-in first-out). Let's say that you have purchased Bitcoin multiple times. The first purchase was made when BTC was trading at $1,000. Then you made multiple purchases until the exchange rate went up to $35,000. And you sold a few of your coins for $35,000. Here you can't claim that the purchase price was $35K. Under the FIFO principle, you need to take the price of the first purchase for capital gains calculation.
2027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: February 03, 2021, 06:52:32 AM
Indeed, and i am hoping that next WTC would be even more exciting once the ICC figure it out all the problems like schedule, same matches series (Depend on revenue tho), DRS-Umpires calls etc.

Allowing crowd does seem a bad idea as far as second wave is concern. Numbers are going down in India but she shouldn't let her guard down at the stage. My reading is that BCCI trying to create norm for IPL and WC by opening up.

Under current circumstances, I don't favor allowing spectators in to the stadiums. The justification being given is that movie theatres are open in India. But my opinion on this is that "two wrongs make a right". After all, cricket is a sport that is more suitable to watching on TV, rather than watching it live at the stadium. And if the BCCI is so adamant, I would request them to limit the seating to 20% or 25% of the capacity rather than the proposed 50%.

And regarding the IPL and T20 World Cup, I hope by that time the situation will improve considerably as the vaccination drive is going on at full pace. But first the BCCI need to sort out issues with ICC related to the tax liability for the T20 World Cup.

2028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: February 03, 2021, 06:39:44 AM
So far i didn't find T-10 format interesting, may be because we hardly see any premier international players in such tournament. Windies players do feature once a while but its not enough. Although things could change drastically once "The 100 ball" tournament kicks in or Big teams starts playing T-10.

Well.. this time they have a number of star players, including Pollard, Narine, Gayle, Shinwari, Stirling, Hafeez, Fletcher, Wiese, Ingram, Tahir, Afridi, Salt, Jordan, Banton, Tanvir, Hasan Ali, Dunk, Bravo, Lyth, Pooran and Russell. Obviously you are not going to find any Indian player, but I would say that the presence of international heavyweights is even better than BBL or CPL. 

Cricket can't be compared with Soccer or Olympic games because where players compete with each other in equal amounts whereas in cricket only 2 batsmen can be in the middle while 11 opponents stop their runs. 3.5 hours is not even enough to get the real cricket to feel because more longer you play the pitch will get better or worsen which is unlikely to change in a 10 over the game.

In that case, why can't we restrict the 10 over format to just 6 players? 11 players for 10 overs doesn't make any sense. It means that most of the players will never get a chance to showcase their skills. The number of players need to be reduced and that will make sure that everyone gets their chance.
2029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Thailand government seeks measures to tackle the problems of illegal gambling. on: February 03, 2021, 06:02:29 AM
That is because the spread of Covid still high, and there is a new case almost every day which we do not know when it will reduce or stop. Maybe their reason is to reduce the number of infected people playing gambling in one big place and the crowd because that can give a chance to get a new case. People will not know who is healthy and who is infected, and the asymptomatic people will be dangerous for the other people in the crowd. We can hope that every country will concern about this in reducing the new case in their country.

This is surprising, because Thailand is one of the countries where the infection rate is very much under control. The number of new daily cases is in three digits and till now the death rate per million is 1.1 (compared to 1378 in the United States). Thailand is a prime destination for international tourists and I don't think that a majority of them are averse to gambling. When many of the neighboring nations (Cambodia, Laos.etc) are taking steps towards popularizing gambling, Thailand seems to be moving in the opposite direction. This can harm their tourist inflow in the long term.
2030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are people buying BTC @ $27000+ idiots? on: February 03, 2021, 05:43:06 AM
The logic being given is that BTC has already went up by 1000% between 2018 and 2020. But if that is the case, the same logic should apply everywhere else. The US stock markets have gone up by around 70% during the same period. Tesla stock increased by almost 2000% during the same period, but a lot of people are still investing in it. The reason being given is that the market for electric vehicles are growing at an astounding rate. Then the same reasoning can be applied to the cryptocurrency market as well, where the user base is growing at a rate of 5% to 10% per year.
2031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: India makes ownership of Bitcoin criminal offense - How to respond? on: February 03, 2021, 05:27:07 AM
The budget session of the parliament runs for a month and in this session the bill will be placed in both the houses. Now it depends on the government when they want to present the bill. It all depends on the government whether they want to priotize this bill.

The budget session is divided in to two parts, and if I am not wrong the bill may be introduced during the second part. The first part is scheduled to run from 1st February to 13th February and during this session the priority will be taken up by discussion related to the current budget and the implementation of the farm laws. After that there is a recess from 14th February to 7th March.

The parliament will meet again on 8th March. The second phase of the budget session will run from 8th March to 8th April, and during this time most of the bills that are on queue will be taken up and tabled before the parliament.
2032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Toronto women win jackpot lottery on: February 02, 2021, 11:05:13 AM
That $60million dollar can already give a mansion to each of my family members here in my country, that's huge money tbh. But kudos to that woman who sticks to her lottery numbers for years, She didn't doubt her numbers even though she's not very lucky in the lottery in 20 years of betting. She already gained her losses and she can make more money with those, it's a win win situation.

I agree that $60 million is a huge amount. If you have just 1% of that amount, you can live like a king here in India for the remainder of your life. But the question is not whether $60 million is a large amount or not. The question is whether if you win $180 million, is it OK for the government to take away $120 million from it in the name of tax, and leave just $60 million with you. No one needs to think that lottery winnings are like charity and the government is providing you the prize for free. The winners are receiving the prize because they spent their money to purchase the tickets and were ready to take the risk despite extremely low odds.
2033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin dominance hits 69%, alts lagging behind on: February 02, 2021, 10:53:28 AM
I had to edit the title. The last time when I edited it, Bitcoin dominance was 69%. Now it stands at 62.5%. Not very surprised, as XRP had a big recovery during this period. Also some of the new coins such as WallStreetBets are now listed in CMC.

When you take the stock market method there is a point that you do not have or that you have not taken into account, there the volume is consolidated, in Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market does not, no Exchange has the consolidated volume, Coinmarketcap takes the volume of Certain Exchanges, not all of them, some Korean Exchanges are missing and some Exchanges that have a regular volume, I think that there would be some data missing to be exact.

I never give much attention to trade volumes given in the CMC website. There are thousands of mainstream exchanges out there and it is impossible to accurately measure the volume from each of them. Then there are DEX sites and P2P platforms, which never reveal their volumes. On top of that, there are marketplaces in various forums (including Bitcointalk), where people regularly trade with their cryptocurrency.

As far as I am concerned, the only parameter which I can trust is the transaction volume that is provided by Blockchain.com

https://www.blockchain.com/charts/estimated-transaction-volume
2034  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Had you sold your Bitcoins ? on: February 02, 2021, 10:34:23 AM
I first invested in cryptocurrency more than 4 years ago (January 2017), when I purchased BTC at a rate of $900 per coin (if I remember correctly, I paid around 3% markup for the purchase). I sold small amount of BTC in 2018 and the succeeding years, but I still have most of my original coins remaining in my wallet (>50%). My target price is $250,000 per coin and I don't want to sell my coins before the target is achieved. If I had posted this a few months back, then people would have laughed at me. But now that target seems not too far away. BTC is trading at above $35,000 per coin, and I believe that I will be able to achieve my target within the next few years.

But just when everything seems to be moving in the right direction, I am facing a serious issue. The Indian government announced a few days back that they will be banning Bitcoin in India. Even the ownership of cryptocurrency will be made a criminal offense. Now I don't have any choice other than selling my coins immediately.
2035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People die from heart attack when they hit the jackpot. on: February 02, 2021, 10:18:21 AM
Yes high taxes on the winnings is a big problem for me, too. As far as I know my country doesn't have a progressive tax rate. The tax seems to be fixed. But it's still pretty big. Although most of the winnings stay with the winner.

No matter how much the rate is, I don't think that double taxation is fair. If they want to tax the winners, then they should not tax the ticket sales. Now what happens is that first they tax the lottery ticket sales. Then they impose tax on the winners. And finally, if the winner gifts a part of his reward to some of his close relatives or friends, then they have to pay tax on that amount as well. This is absolute lunacy and I hope the governments would look in to it. But with left-leaning governments coming up in many countries around the world, I don't have much hope.
2036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: February 02, 2021, 07:27:16 AM
BCCI considering crowds in the stadium for 2nd test, may be 50%. They are already allowing clubs to attending 1st test.

On funny note, how many venue get to see full house in the Tests in India? Minus Eden Gardens. Guess they are counting on cricket hungry spectators this time.
BCCI explore allowing crowds for India-England Tests

Very irresponsible move. Australia did the same during the India tour, and there was an increase in the number of new infections. Right now, the COVID 19 situation in India is very much under control (less than 50,000 active cases outside Kerala and Maharashtra), and they should not take any additional risk. After all, what is the logic in allowing the spectators when the vast majority of the revenue is coming from TV broadcast? The Indian government also should take note of this. Many of the European and North American countries are going through the second wave right now, after many months of stability. The same can happen with India as well. We should prevent the second wave by any means possible.
2037  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to still make a good return from Bitcoin? on: February 02, 2021, 07:00:54 AM
The higher the investment price, higher will be the risk. Back in 2015, for an investment of $100,000 you would have got 500 BTC in your wallet. If you invest the same amount now, you will only receive 3 BTC. Bitcoin exchange rates have risen almost continuously for more than a decade. But with that rise, come additional risks. I only want to say one thing. The journey from a market cap of $600 billion to $1,200 billion is going to be much more difficult than the one we had in 2015-21, when the same rose from $4 billion to $600 billion.
2038  Economy / Economics / Re: Vaccination Started in India | Impact over Indian Economy & World? on: February 02, 2021, 06:49:42 AM
I have a doubt, India does have a billion population and i understand that the medical people will have the priority in getting the vaccines and there were reports that they will be exporting the vaccines as well, is it logically to export the medicine if they are not having the desired production to vaccinate their citizens before exporting them. I am not keen on taking the vaccination just yet but lets see the results and then i will consider.

The rate of vaccination is approx. 500,000 per day now and it is not easy to increase it all of a sudden. In order to vaccinate the Indian citizens, first they need to set up vaccination centers and train the staff. All this is being done, and within the next few weeks more than a million will undergo vaccination per day. At this moment, it is not desirable to hold back exports of the vaccine (contracts for which was signed many months back). Right now India do have enough vaccines for the priority population and the main challenge lies with logistics.
2039  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2021-01-30 [CNBC] India might ban private cryptocurrencies like bitcoin on: February 02, 2021, 06:23:47 AM
The bill you are seeing is fake, real is yet to come. Though there are high chances that they ban cryptocurrencies but just don't tell the judgement, its not a criminal offence yet and no 10 yrs imprisonment condition.

This condition was in the bill which was going to publish in 2019 but not in 2021 yet.

From what I have heard, the bill is essentially the same one which they tried to table in 2018/19. There are only some minor changes, such as "exceptions" for "underlying technology and others". In the summary that was posted to the parliament website, it is clear that there will be a complete ban on "private" cryptocurrencies (i.e those cryptocurrencies that are decentralized and not controlled by the central bank).
2040  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: India makes ownership of Bitcoin criminal offense - How to respond? on: February 02, 2021, 05:55:17 AM
India has been spreading FUD on the media about Bitcoin for YEARS now. And the illiterate and less-technologically-savvy people, which compose a large chunk of our population just eat that up. No one does their own research or due diligence. The media has only ever reported negative news about BTC, like when scams/fraudsters are arrested and they have used BTC or sometimes I've just seen the argument that "cryptocurrency" is "hacker-currency" and some weird stuff like that. I remember India trying to push its own crypto in 2018 named Lakshmi, but never followed through with that. So, yeah, the buzz has been going on for quite a while but India has always failed to take a step and instead of regulating, it wants to ban crypto.

Also, the bill supposedly has vague "exceptions", which I believe will just be crypto owned by the giant corporations which will be excused. In words of Elon, India has gone corpo.

Everyone knows what the "exceptions" mean. Under the "Make in India" program, Ambani and Adani will be provided with exceptions, so that they can come up with Jiocoin or Adanicoin. The government is full of retards, if they think that everyone would flock to purchase their shitcoin if they remove the competition. Crypto industry doesn't work like that. I tried to post a few comments clarifying that there is no evidence to link cryptocurrency to terrorist funding or tax evasion in mainstream news websites such as TOI and HT. But the BJP bots immediately flagged my comments as offensive and got them deleted.
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