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2041  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 10, 2015, 05:02:31 PM
Climate destruction deniers are and aways have been the paid shills of the fossil fuel industry

You got me dead to rights. Exxon mobil is paying me 7 dollars for this comment alone.
2042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 10, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
One thing to keep an eye on is bitcoin's bull market.

Altcoins tend to suffer in the beginning of bitcoin's bull runs. You can see Litecoin (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcbtc) , Peercoin (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ppcbtc), and (Namecoin (https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/nmcbtc) all crashing hard in October 2013. Litecoin also suffered in May 2014 as bitcoin began its bull run to 680. XMR/DRK did well at that time, but only because anonymous coins were new and hot. Other alts suffered.

So if bitcoin breaks 300 with strength today or in the next few days, then we should prepare for some pain.

They suffer crossed against bitcoin but they almost always do well in terms of fiat in these situations.
2043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 10, 2015, 06:38:12 AM
Any reason for the price increase?

rats fleeing a slinking ship?
2044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⋆⋆⋆ [SDC] ShadowCash | The First and Only truly Anonymous POS coin ⋆⋆⋆ on: March 10, 2015, 04:31:00 AM
I'm legit interested in this project, just do something cool and I'm here. I love proof of stake (definitely an improvement over proof of work in theory) and i love cryptonote. What do you guys have to prove that you are making advances in the space of bringing proof of stake to cyrptonote. I see a lot of promises and very little in the way of concrete advancement. Sorry for not doing exhaustive research, there are so many people promising so many things everywhere that i could never research all of the claims. A distillation in this respect would be greatly appreciated.
2045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 10, 2015, 02:30:55 AM
DRK just broke 0.01 on the downside

I wonder if Dark community is joining into Monero community.

they clearly got into dark because they were looking for a particular product. if dark doesnt deliver on that promise they will probably come knocking on our door. monero will end up consuming darks capitalization. if dark commits seppuku we all in this thread likely stand to benefit very very greatly from that.

I have a feeling it will work out as you say.

By now maybe 5? percent of DRK holders will have heard this news so I guess there will be a lot more dumping the coming week.

Whales might try keep the price up at their own demise but not only would that be pretty stupid, also would it mean the majority of coins would end up in the hands of masternodes and a few whales.

If the whales were to do that than they would be helping everyone who was rushing to the exits to leave without losing as much capital. If those people who were running to the exit did ultimately find their way here, it would be as if the whales had dumped their own capital into monero as well. That would be quite funny.
2046  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: March 10, 2015, 02:14:14 AM
Well. I submitted hodl to urban dictionary with the following definition:

hodl: A long term commitment to uncompromisingly retain possession of a thing without regard for any changes in sentiment or market conditions.

And the following example:

I know ill end up shooting myself in the foot if i try to day trade my bitcoins, so I'm hodling. I'll check back on price when it's time to retire.

They rejected it. I don't know why. If someone else wants to try to resubmit it, go for it.

That's an awesome definition! Why did they reject it???

I think I would change "thing" for "currency"or something similar, if you mention market conditions after.

They probably rejected it because they didn't understand it.

democracy Roll Eyes

seems reasonable to people at the left side of the bell curve but eternally frustrating people on the right.

Good definition! You can submit it to urban dictionary Smiley

haha ok i tried it, lets see if it gets accepted.

it was accepted
2047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 10, 2015, 02:11:28 AM
DRK just broke 0.01 on the downside

I wonder if Dark community is joining into Monero community.

they clearly got into dark because they were looking for a particular product. if dark doesnt deliver on that promise they will probably come knocking on our door. monero will end up consuming darks capitalization. if dark commits seppuku we all in this thread likely stand to benefit very very greatly from that.
2048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 10, 2015, 01:37:25 AM
Anyone knows a legitimate way to short DRK when having 0 DRK?

A derivatives contract. You just put a bet out there, and see if someone else wants to take the other side of it. Go in the darkcoin thread and i bet you will find a bull who would take the other side assuming you offer him a greater return than he would get from simply holding dark. If someone takes you up on your contract than i would be happy to escrow for you guys. Check out my rep thread in signature.
2049  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 10, 2015, 12:51:26 AM
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/global-warming-could-hit-rates-unseen-in-1-000-years/

thoughts?
2050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 09, 2015, 08:41:12 PM
subscribing to this thread
2051  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: March 08, 2015, 04:31:12 AM
Well. I submitted hodl to urban dictionary with the following definition:

hodl: A long term commitment to uncompromisingly retain possession of a thing without regard for any changes in sentiment or market conditions.

And the following example:

I know ill end up shooting myself in the foot if i try to day trade my bitcoins, so I'm hodling. I'll check back on price when it's time to retire.

They rejected it. I don't know why. If someone else wants to try to resubmit it, go for it.

That's an awesome definition! Why did they reject it???

I think I would change "thing" for "currency"or something similar, if you mention market conditions after.

They probably rejected it because they didn't understand it.

democracy Roll Eyes

seems reasonable to people at the left side of the bell curve but eternally frustrating people on the right.

Good definition! You can submit it to urban dictionary Smiley

haha ok i tried it, lets see if it gets accepted.
2052  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: March 08, 2015, 01:53:45 AM
What a great story! I'm so glad it had a happy ending.

Hank is afraid of femal coworkers for life and adria blamed hank for telling the world he lost his job and would do it again (the vibe I am getting at the end)


OK... No one died, so it is a happy ending...

 Grin




I was thinking more like, he has a job and she doesn't. Sweet sweet justice.

As far as hank being terrified for life, perhaps he should have been terrified of woman all along and he just didnt realize the danger but now he has gained a perspective that is more in line with the real world. Fear is a good thing if it is rational.
2053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: March 08, 2015, 01:41:46 AM
What a great story! I'm so glad it had a happy ending.
2054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 05, 2015, 06:44:47 PM
^^ Yeah it's the root(n) paper, sorry. Recalled it incorrectly off the top of my head.

http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~sahai/work/web/2007%20Publications/ICALP_Chandran2007.pdf

Less cool but still cool for all of the same reasons. Thanks.
2055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 05, 2015, 06:27:24 PM
We're mainly interested in an improvement in overall complexity, and both schemes here are O(n). There is a sublinear ring signature paper that in O(log n) in size that we're looking at more closely.

I can't seem to find this paper. I found one that claims O(√n) but no O(log n). Anyone have a link?
2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 05, 2015, 07:31:25 AM


No way! That would be incredible. That would bring this project from secure and private to legit science fiction level anonymous. You could have hundreds or even thousands mixin partners. Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't this be the cypherpunk holy grail? Is it really within our grasp and just need "review"?

Would there be a decrease in mix-in costs as the available mix-in levels increased?

No its just O(log(n)). Every additional mixin partner increases the size of your signature but less than the one before it.



look at O(log(n)) compared to other big o notations on this chart. Particularly look at it in comparison to O(n). Its a big difference. For example: If the limit(log(n)) < some reasonable signature size that can be affordably stored on the blockchain than you can use every single other key ever published on the entire blockchain to produce your ring signature. Infact if this were the case we could set a mixin minimum of like 1000 or something crazy.


So in cost terms: if this is implemented, the costs of a 99 level mix-in would be less than the cost of a 99 mix-in as it currently stands? Correct?


Probably. It's possible that this wouldn't be the case if n=2 in the new scheme were sufficiently more resource intensive than n=2 in the old scheme. But its highly unlikely that the difference between n=2 in the current scheme vs n=2 in the new scheme would be great enough to make mixin 99 in the new scheme cost more than mixin 99 in the old. Its a complicated way of saying that O(log(n)) only talks about the shape of the curve, it doesnt say anything about where that curve is placed on the graph.

*edit* sorry that was needlessly complicated. yes. the answer is yes. i cant imagine that the authors of that paper would have even bothered to produce it if the answer were no.

Thank you for the answer--enjoyed the complication. I was assuming a 99 mix-in would be located in latter parts of the O(log n) line for the sake of simplicity. Probably should have stated that.

Ill need to look over that paper and see if i can understand any of it. Didn't bother yet because its too late tonight. Anyone have link?
2057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 05, 2015, 06:59:15 AM


No way! That would be incredible. That would bring this project from secure and private to legit science fiction level anonymous. You could have hundreds or even thousands mixin partners. Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't this be the cypherpunk holy grail? Is it really within our grasp and just need "review"?

Would there be a decrease in mix-in costs as the available mix-in levels increased?

No its just O(log(n)). Every additional mixin partner increases the size of your signature but less than the one before it.



look at O(log(n)) compared to other big o notations on this chart. Particularly look at it in comparison to O(n). Its a big difference. For example: If the limit(log(n)) < some reasonable signature size that can be affordably stored on the blockchain than you can use every single other key ever published on the entire blockchain to produce your ring signature. Infact if this were the case we could set a mixin minimum of like 1000 or something crazy.


So in cost terms: if this is implemented, the costs of a 99 level mix-in would be less than the cost of a 99 mix-in as it currently stands? Correct?


Probably. It's possible that this wouldn't be the case if n=2 in the new scheme were sufficiently more resource intensive than n=2 in the old scheme. But its highly unlikely that the difference between n=2 in the current scheme vs n=2 in the new scheme would be great enough to make mixin 99 in the new scheme cost more than mixin 99 in the old. Its a complicated way of saying that O(log(n)) only talks about the shape of the curve, it doesnt say anything about where that curve is placed on the graph.

*edit* sorry that was needlessly complicated. yes. the answer is yes. i cant imagine that the authors of that paper would have even bothered to produce it if the answer were no.
2058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 05, 2015, 05:54:15 AM


No way! That would be incredible. That would bring this project from secure and private to legit science fiction level anonymous. You could have hundreds or even thousands mixin partners. Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't this be the cypherpunk holy grail? Is it really within our grasp and just need "review"?

Would there be a decrease in mix-in costs as the available mix-in levels increased?

No its just O(log(n)). Every additional mixin partner increases the size of your signature but less than the one before it.



look at O(log(n)) compared to other big o notations on this chart. Particularly look at it in comparison to O(n). Its a big difference. For example: If the limit(log(n)) < some reasonable signature size that can be affordably stored on the blockchain than you can use every single other key ever published on the entire blockchain to produce your ring signature. Infact if this were the case we could set a mixin minimum of like 1000 or something crazy.
2059  Economy / Auctions / Re: You're bidding on being my referrer on: March 05, 2015, 05:49:14 AM
BID:

2060  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: March 05, 2015, 05:30:45 AM
Well. I submitted hodl to urban dictionary with the following definition:

hodl: A long term commitment to uncompromisingly retain possession of a thing without regard for any changes in sentiment or market conditions.

And the following example:

I know ill end up shooting myself in the foot if i try to day trade my bitcoins, so I'm hodling. I'll check back on price when it's time to retire.

They rejected it. I don't know why. If someone else wants to try to resubmit it, go for it.

That's an awesome definition! Why did they reject it???

I think I would change "thing" for "currency"or something similar, if you mention market conditions after.

They probably rejected it because they didn't understand it.

democracy Roll Eyes

seems reasonable to people at the left side of the bell curve but eternally frustrating people on the right.
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