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2081  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bitcoin! on: July 08, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
Let the games begin!

Hi Satoshi,

you wouldn't sell 100k BTC just to win a bet, would you?
2082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bitcoin! on: July 08, 2011, 02:24:36 AM
@bitcoinBull: you know the exchange rate does not reflect todays relevance but the expected value for time frames of maybe even years. so even if the market is as small as 5 million per year as of now with people speculating on a x15 growth in business within one year anticipating next years real value they are quite conservative with 15$/BTC as this would mean all BTC circulating and not like it is today where the exchanges have trade volumes of 100k/day and 90% being used as a store of value.
2083  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Introducing Bitcoin for Android on: July 08, 2011, 02:03:53 AM
Mine started ForceClosing suddely this morning. Anyone know where the wallet.dat file is stored on the phone or backed up to? I need to reinstall the app, and am worried if I uninstall it, I may lost my single freshly mined Bitcoin.

uhm ... Smiley))

i tried "bitcoin wallet" for android and for a reason it only runs on testnet. they both share the library bitcoinJ. If the crashes were from bitcoinJ not working right yet, I wish you good luck.

https://github.com/barmstrong/bitcoin-android/blob/master/src/com/bitcoinandroid/WalletBackupAgent.java looks like it does backups to google so a total loss is unlikely and (i think) reinstalling should not affect your saved wallet. At least the code reads as if it tries to restore from the cloud in case your local wallet has a balance of 0 which should be the case unless you accidentally created a private key similar to an existing key with a balance Wink

2084  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Introducing Bitcoin for Android on: July 08, 2011, 01:23:08 AM

So it should be dropping the blockchain on your SD card, not the internal memory.

All right, I installed the creature, and it does seem to drop the blockchain on the SD card.  However, it still takes up 2.20 MB of the internal memory — and since a wallet is continuously growing, this is amount is likely to increase.  I'm not convinced it's such a good idea to store the wallet in internal memory.

Cheers,

Seems like a fair point for older smartphones. I've raised an issue for it (https://github.com/barmstrong/bitcoin-android/issues/9).

they are well aware of the issue and 14MB is already crazy compared to what you have on your PC ... as evoorhees found out Smiley

Noob question - On my PC the "block chain" data file is several hundred megabytes. How is it only 14mb on this mobile version?

they use a compressed format and rely on connected nodes for validity. (please correct me if i'm wrong.)

This is a great development. But they should consider making it a light-weight client as soon as possible.
15MB is already ultra lightweight for a bitcoin client. If you want to have a real thin client use something like an instawallet client or a bitcoind remote control. both exists on android already.
2085  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Genug Münchner da für ne Bitcoin Usergroup? on: July 08, 2011, 12:26:54 AM
Eigentlich konnte man bei meetup.com immer einfach so einen lokale Gruppe gründen für eine bereits existierende weltweite Community, z.b. StackOverflow. Da hatte ich mal die Gruppe für München aufgesetzt: http://www.meetup.com/stackoverflow/Munchen/

Aber irgendwie geht das anscheinend tatsächlich nicht mehr, oder ich blick in deren Link-Dschungel nich mehr durch.  Huh

vielleicht kann der master of meetup/bitcoin das?
2086  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An E-Book store. A business idea for someone legally flexible on: July 07, 2011, 11:33:37 AM
But i am must mention, that big role in popularity of the book, relays on the publisher - redaction, positioning, adds, tours, etc.

Yes, unfortunately you are right. But that does not justify that the publisher takes 98%, does a bad job and blocks the author to go with some other ways of distributing his book. I know how it works. I own the rights of 2 books that sold some 30k times and are out of stock with no reprint in sight. It is a hassle to buy them free (although it has been a while ... maybe I should start an attempt again.)
2087  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Genug Münchner da für ne Bitcoin Usergroup? on: July 07, 2011, 11:29:15 AM
Wie technisch versiert seid Ihr denn? 21 Interessierte in dieser versteckten Ecke (ich bin meist nur auf englischen Seiten des Forums unterwegs). Da bekomm ich fast die Hoffnung, dass wir was auf die Beine stellen könnten. Seid Ihr an Folgendem interessiert?

Eine BitCoin Party:
* Wir mieten einen kleinen Club
* Verkaufen Getränke für BitCoins
* Laden Presse ein

Es sind momentan mehrere Android Clients in der Entwicklung. Solche, die sich mit einem bitcoind oder instawallet verbinden sind da etwas weiter, als solche, die auf bitcoinJ aufsetzen. Wenn Andreas Schildbach seine bitcoin wallet for Android als 1.0 bezeichnet, könnte man das auch evtl. als Releasparty veranstalten.

Wichtig wäre eine point of sales Lösung, wo der Verkäufer auf Cola drückt und der Käufer den QR-Code bekommt.

... ja, das ist alles noch Brainstorming, aber mit vielen Leuten an einem Ort kann man sowas schon stemmen und es würde sicher auch Presse geben. Vor allem aber auch gute Presse, wenn nicht die Hälfte der Zahlungen verloren und die Hälfte der Wallets corrupt geht und wir nicht nach einer halben Stunde die Musik abschalten um besser Fachsimpeln zu können.

Wer hat Lust am nächsten Treffen darüber zu quatschen?
2088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An E-Book store. A business idea for someone legally flexible on: July 07, 2011, 11:06:26 AM
If someone is computer literate enough to be using TOR, why would they pay money for a book in a torrent they are more than capable of getting on their own?

 Grin

the whole point would be to give the customer a way of giving the author his share rather than sending 98% to those middle men and only 2% to the author as it is today.

knowing that the authors sell their rights to the distributors and can't officially agree to a legal version of the suggested service I am with the OP.

I had thought about similar mechanisms for a grass root culture flat rate where I give 10$/month to a service and tell the service about my desired share of that. Now the service invites the film makers, book authors, music artists etc. to grab their share. Problem is as the moral relief will not stop the police from punishing me, people will not use it in masses thus the incentive for the artists would be too small to make them stand up against the established distributors as they would still generate the vast majority of their income.
2089  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Genug Münchner da für ne Bitcoin Usergroup? on: July 07, 2011, 10:18:58 AM
meetup.com kostet richtig asche. 12$/monat. geht's noch? benefit ist die sichtbarkeit, ja, ok, aber 12$?Huh wtf!

hier sind genug fähige menschen dabei, dass man das nicht braucht.
2090  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Genug Münchner da für ne Bitcoin Usergroup? on: July 07, 2011, 10:03:12 AM
Was haltet Ihr von einem Etherpad oder einem Eintrag im Wiki? Ich hätte gerne ein nicht sequentielles Tool, wo ich alle Infos im Blick haben kann, ohne durch fünf Seiten scrollen zu müssen. Sowas könnte man dann auch dezent in der Signatur verlinken.

P.S.: Vielleicht will sich ja wer http://bitcoin.meetup.com/ anschauen?
2091  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Genug Münchner da für ne Bitcoin Usergroup? on: July 07, 2011, 12:36:05 AM
Oh! Laut
$ wget -O - "http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20844.0;all" | grep "View the profile of" | sed 's/^.*View the profile of \(.*\)\".*/\1/g' | sort -u | wc -l
sind am Thema 21 Leute interessiert Smiley
2092  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin amount limit on: July 07, 2011, 12:16:15 AM
The only reason people are getting involved is because they know that there is a limit. Who in their right mind would invest in something that will be diluted infinitely? The price of bitcoins would still be at $0.001 if there was an infinite supply. An infinite supply mean that no matter the demand, the price is going to be tiny, because there will always be more. The current price is from people speculating on future demand given a finite supply.

Complete bullshit. DamienBlack said it right already but I'm even stronger opposed to that.
If there was a way to grant 50*1.1^time in years btc per person (that is every user would be granted 50btc for 2009, 55 for 2010, ... no matter when he joins), I would be fine with that, too. This mechanism would make bitcoin more of a currency. now it is only a store of value.

i bought at 9$ and i'm not an early adopter with thousands of btc so i value those btc i have much higher than people trade them on mtGox. on the other hand I doubt the btc will survive as a save haven for all of my savings so i'm stuck with some coins neither bold enough to buy more nor to use them at the MtGox rate. A predefined rate of infinite exponential growth would help a lot. With the money being attributed to persons, people would not turn their back to bitcoin knowing they have some fresh coins every year (month/block). unfortunately this reward per person instead of per proof of work doesn't work in an anonymous decentralized system.
2093  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Genug Münchner da für ne Bitcoin Usergroup? on: July 06, 2011, 06:08:21 PM
nach dem Treffen werd ich evt. auf Fluxday von giszmo umsteigen.. mal sehen Smiley

hehe Smiley tät mich freun ...
2094  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Android Bitcoin Client Bounty (1740 BTC pledged) on: July 06, 2011, 06:04:14 PM
Now we have two:

Bitcoin-android (based on BitcoinJ)
  - https://github.com/barmstrong/bitcoin-android

BitPay (based on InstaWallet)
  - https://github.com/warpi/BitPay
  - http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=24452.0

BitPay involves trusting InstaWallet.
You missed to mention RPC-clients like http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

Is the above mentioned Bitcoin-android already stable? http://code.google.com/p/bitcoin-wallet/ workds on BitcoinJ, too.

2095  Other / Meta / Re: [POLL] should we use more "report to moderator" clicks? on: July 05, 2011, 03:10:24 AM
i posted this poll in a moment where i was reading others complaining about off topic posts and thought maybe the moderators would move them if they only knew. moving mining to mining, meta to meta etc. has nothing to do with censorship. not all posts belong to the general discussion.

besides this forum is run by someone and if he decides he will delete every post containing the letter z, he can do so. people would find other places to get together and it's his right to not like z from today on.
2096  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything looks fine on the logarithmic charts on: July 05, 2011, 12:35:06 AM
all you need to do is flip the colors Can some one do this Cheesy

if it makes you happy ... but somehow I prefer the more subtle jokes.
2097  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything looks fine on the logarithmic charts on: July 05, 2011, 12:16:57 AM
I personally prefer the -1 chart
2098  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin amount limit on: July 04, 2011, 03:17:18 PM
you can fork the block chain at 0 and for introducing an alternative currency that's the only way that would make sense i guess..

i think it might be fun to see what happens if a subset of the community decides to accept only blocks with ... an "@" as a prefix but based on the existing block chain.
such a change would render these blocks invalid for the rest of the clients. conversely the @-subchain would contain all transactions prior to the fork and, if enough people love @, people would accept coins from that chain so effectively I could double spend all coins that were mined before the fork by spending them here and there. wonder if there is a use case for such a scenario Smiley
2099  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin amount limit on: July 04, 2011, 09:58:51 AM
due to the generation of btc being coupled to energy consumption i think it makes sense to not attribute 50btc/10 minutes in 20 years from now. imagine how big mining would grow if each lucky winner gets worth 10,000,000$.
We need a lot of mining to keep the currency secure. It's the computing capacity of the honest miners exceed that of any attackers that prevents double spending.
Yes, but we achieve this goal with 10,000$/10minutes already. It's ecologically insane to put 1000x the amount of resources into mining.

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I would favour 10-20% volume growth distributed evenly to all participants per year (right now we are at 30%/a distributed based on CPU) but agree that in a peer to peer anonymous system there is no way of implementing that.
That would be 100% equivalent to doing nothing at all. If everyone's bitcoin amount goes up 20%, nothing has changed. It's the same as creating a new unit, say the BITCoin equivalent to .833 bitcoins and pretending all accounts are in that units. "I have 1 bitcoin." and "I have 1.2 BITcoins" mean the same thing.
Huh? No! "distributed evenly to all participants" is not equal to everyones BTC going up by x%. What I'm suggesting is that with 1M participants and 1M BTC in circulation, every non-miner gets 0.2BTC in that year regardless of what he had before. Actually if there were a proof of being a person I would do as follows:
* everybody gets 1BTC + 1.1^time (in years since start of the currency) BTC
* miners get their fraction of another 1.1^time BTC
* a person joining after the 3rd year would start off with 1+1.331BTC.
* The average miner will have 1+1.331+1.331BTC
* Those doing business will have significantly more but also have an incentive to spend over time their 5BTC would become 15 while the other guy with 1.1331 would have 11.1331 by then.

(Some guy had suggested to connect DNA with BTC addresses somehow but this way everybody who finds one of my hairs would be able to capture any further income ... Proof of being a living person is not feasible anonymously without solving captchas non stop.)
2100  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Instant payments made easy on: July 03, 2011, 11:15:52 PM
grml. the last recipient had the link still in the history ... no money there.

Right now it's there  Smiley

Either I was blind (don't use instawallet yet) or you recharged now. Most likely I was blind.

my approach now was to scan the code with my android, in the scanning app click at send by email, save the mail as draft, open the draft mail on the pc ... to see a balance of 0.

Ok, way easier with the qr-scanner app on my iphone, just scan and it opens the browser, right on target.

Well I had to somehow get my bitcoin address together on one machine with your instawallet url. Else open in browser works of course, too.
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