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2121  Other / Meta / Re: A BUMPING SERVICE EXAMPLE: How long are we going to look the other way? on: March 27, 2019, 11:53:08 PM
Is it possible to block such profiles?
You'll need to report their posts, and they need to break forum rules to be banned. And even if they get banned, they'll just use many other accounts too. Bump bots are a plague Sad
From the forum administration's perspective, I don't believe it will be viewed these people are breaking any rules, as I am willing to bet they do not appear to be the same person when looking at their IP information and/or browser fingerprints (even though they are clearly doing harm).

IIRC, some people claimed to be in telegram groups in which someone would tell people which threads to post in and would receive payment for doing so, when there was an *actual* sting operation of someone pretending on purchasing the services of these people.
2122  Other / Meta / Re: Community Opinion - Signature Campaigns on: March 27, 2019, 11:46:26 PM
With both gambling and porn, there is an argument that both are harmful and unethical in various ways. I don't subscribe to the logic in making these arguments, however I do not find these arguments to be outright frivolous.

In addition to the suggestions of many above to make sure the signatures are not explicit, and to consider not linking directly to explicit material, I would suggest doing due diligence on the site itself. I would want to have confidence the site is not going to be spreading malware when visitors visit the site, nor when visitors try to download content, and does not have an excess amount of advertisements.

I do find it somewhat strange that a porn site would want to advertise here. I would not find bitcointalk the most effective venue to advertise on for this kind of business.
2123  Other / Meta / Re: What can I do about possible merit abuse? on: March 27, 2019, 11:25:32 PM
Hhampuz, please consider adding a neutral rating for users you suspect of merit abuse. This would help enormously when they inevitably get themselves into other shady dealings down the road.

Will do, no harm with a neutral and if it's not true they are free to present their evidence to me. Thanks!
I am assuming Yatsan is the person you suspect is abusing merit.

I am not sure if he received merit from his alt account, or if he purchased the merit, perhaps from this guy. I looked through his merit history, and I am not quite sure what to make of it. He has received merit from a number of people that I don't think are selling merit, although this is based on their reputation from my perspective, and I did not look at their merit history. Most of the merit he received is from his various WTS threads.

I noticed he also received merit from Distinctin for a post that I do not believes deserves merit on a reasonable basis. Going down the rabbit hole, I looked at Distinctin's merit history, looked at the last 8 posts he sent merit to, and believe at most one of these posts reasonably deserves merit, and most are the only post on the page/thread with merit.

Back to Yatsan, on Feb 19, he received 2 merit from Distinctin (for a questionable post -- see above), and the next day he applies for a campaign (run by Hhampuz) with merit requirements, although only 10 merit were required, which he already met (the recent merit could have helped his application as it would have implied he made good post(s) recently).

I think there is at least a 60% chance Distinctin is either selling merit or giving merit to his alts (I think the former is more likely), and at least a 51% chance Yatsan recently purchased merit. Assuming Distinctin is selling merit, everyone he sent merit to did not necessarily purchase merit because there may be some false flags. Obviously both 60% and 51% is far from certain, and I would not say any of the above proves anything.
2124  Other / Meta / Re: What can I do about possible merit abuse? on: March 27, 2019, 12:18:30 PM


At the end of the day, there isn't really anything you can do. Officially, "merit abuse" is not against the rules. You can decide to ban the person from any of your campaigns if you wish, although I would first ensure their post quality is reflective of what you do not want in your campaigns.


Merit abuse is against the rules on same cases in fact theymos remove manually merit sometimes like here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114714.msg49936656#msg49936656.
That was to reverse the effects of a merit source sending merit for reasons theymos disagreed with.

The question is another one, in this case, is or is not redtrust worthy? for sure is an untrusted behavior since they did for bypass a rule.
It was allegedly done to bypass an arbitrary rule, and I do not like arbitrary rules. There are many posts that are not objectively "high quality" (the intended purpose of the merit system) that receive merit. Campaign managers should stop being lazy and should review post quality of their applicants themselves.

While one might conclude this was 'abuse' based on the information in the OP, I don't think this is proven.
2125  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit for Crypto (and other) Knowledge on: March 27, 2019, 07:58:18 AM
I'm not sure if this post was suitable from your criteria but I still share here. Wink

Forum contribution from our local board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108520 *
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106156 *


And this is the latest and ongoing now, the community relation game prize contest in our local.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123131


Thank you for have a look and spending your precious time on this.

I am really not looking for translations of other threads, and prefer original content.
2126  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] LiveCoin Signature Campaign | Hero/Legendary Members | Up to 0.02BTC/Week on: March 27, 2019, 06:52:13 AM
Bitcointalk URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020
Curent post count (Including this post): 13213
Amount of EARNED merit in the last 120 days: 120+ (not sure exact number)
BTC Address: 3PjXm2XYDKLV5mN3oiKzNTyVvSkqP3ujeq
*legitimate* negative trust received: none
2127  Other / Meta / Re: What can I do about possible merit abuse? on: March 27, 2019, 06:09:42 AM
Who are you referring to?

At the end of the day, there isn't really anything you can do. Officially, "merit abuse" is not against the rules. You can decide to ban the person from any of your campaigns if you wish, although I would first ensure their post quality is reflective of what you do not want in your campaigns.

You cannot blindly use merit as a basis for judging who to accept in your campaigns. There are a lot of people who have little merit who are very good posters, and there are people who receive a lot of merit from low effort posts. I would suggest having lower merit requirements than what you might otherwise want, and as a supplement to merit requirements, you can review their post history to ensure they have sufficiently good post quality, or you can ask applicants to present examples of posts that demonstrate their understanding of one of several topics posted at least several weeks ago.
2128  Other / Meta / Re: A BUMPING SERVICE EXAMPLE: How long are we going to look the other way? on: March 27, 2019, 04:45:42 AM
The solution is to change how ANN threads are bumped to the top of the board.

Perhaps posts by those who are not the OP can be ignored when determining thread ordering. To go a step further, the OP could designate one post per day that will “bump” the thread to the top of the board.

This should entirely remove the incentive to use fake/paid bumps.
2129  Economy / Reputation / Re: Suspicious loan to 2double0 from hacker1001101001 (marcotheminer involved) on: March 27, 2019, 02:36:13 AM
It looks like 2double0 is going to be late repaying the loan, after allegedly obtaining an extension from the lender.
Hello everyone.
Just to tell everyone, I have taken a 1 week extension over this and the adjusted date is now 2nd of April 2019. Hacker, can you please confirm this here?
2130  Other / Meta / Re: [RUIN THE FUN] Possible April Fools Ideas Of Theymos on: March 26, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Perhaps theymos could make a presentation that features a picture of President Reagan firing a machine gun while sitting on the back of a dinosaur with a rocket launcher strapped to his back with a tattered American flag in the background.

Similar to how Senator Mike Lee did durring a speech on the Senate floor today. 
2131  Economy / Reputation / Re: UPDATED [26/03/2019]: List of Active Merit Giveaways threads. on: March 26, 2019, 11:40:53 PM
I found one new challenge for your list.
Merit for Crypto (and other) Knowledge
Author: QuickSeller

  • Eligible anks: all ranks.
  • Rewards: 2 merits at least, and up to 4 merits for some special cases.
  • Challenge's sMerit Fund: 50+
  • Languages: all accepted, not English only.
I won’t give merit to legendary accounts. They don’t need any to rank up further.

You can delete my post once you add my thread to the OP
2132  Other / Meta / Re: How recognized are you in the bitcointalk world? on: March 26, 2019, 09:30:57 PM
Perhaps the number of people who have sent merit to a profile can be taken into consideration in calculating their scores.
2133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: March 26, 2019, 09:06:21 PM
Jussie Smollet just had all charges dropped. Some one just turned states evidence. Bigger fish are about to fry.
He has the intelligence of a monkey. Go back and look at his story and remember that he actually thought others would believe him.

I cannot imagine him having information that could possibly be useful and if he does, I cannot imagine him being able to document the information so that it would actually be useful (no sane prosecutor is going to base their case on his word).

My suspicion is Michelle Obama got involved.
2134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mueller report sent to AG // UPDATE MAR 24 // Update **NO COLLUSION ** on: March 26, 2019, 05:44:13 PM
After this report I think that democrats have no chance against Trump in the next presidential elections.
It's obvious that they are to much divided among themselves and without clear direction and goal.
This report was last chance for them to dismiss the president Trump but if Mueller couldn't find any evidence that Trump and members of his team cooperated with the Russians, nobody will.
Democrats and the media were largely staking their credibility on the Mueller report and after everything is said and done they won’t have much credibility left.

I suspect there will be a large republican majority in the house in 2020, I am not sure what the senate election map looks like and Trump will probably win by a large margin.
2135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: March 26, 2019, 04:09:00 PM
It looks like he will essentially get off with what works out to be a $100k fine and some community service but won’t have to plead guilty.

Excuse me while I check my white privilege.
2136  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit for Crypto (and other) Knowledge on: March 26, 2019, 02:27:01 PM
I'm newbie in cryptocurrency. Because of my self learning, I have researched some topics and whatever I have learnt, I have shared in the forum.
Two of these articles I have written here-
1. What is Bitcoin Mixer
2. Full Node Client vs Light Node Client
Your posts are not four weeks apart, and I generally want posts at least this far apart so I can see that you have a history of making useful posts. I sent you merit because I believe your post history is especially strong.

Thanks.
2137  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit for Crypto (and other) Knowledge on: March 26, 2019, 07:52:12 AM
I sent you two merit on this post for your above submission.

If you have not received at least 2 additional merit once you have 120 activity, send me a PM and I will give you enough merit to rank up.

Thanks.
2138  Other / Archival / Re: Closed on: March 25, 2019, 08:25:51 PM
Quote
Updates AND repayments would be made daily
This kind of promise is not worth anything because it relies on the lender first sending money to you, just as a loan without this promise.

@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?
This problem is not unique to this loan request. As is the case with all other no collateral loans, the lender would not be repaid.

The lender could file a claim against the estate however if collateral cannot be offered, there is a good chance the estate would be unable to pay. Also for the amount involved, going after the estate is probably not cost efficient.
2139  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit for Crypto (and other) Knowledge on: March 25, 2019, 08:11:35 PM
Am an average bitcoin investor, don't have much knowledge on the technical aspects (still learning)


I updated the OP to reflect that posts can show an interest in any of the above topics, however there should be evidence that you are trying to learn and are putting effort into the posts.


This thread is not only for OPs, replies to topics can also be submitted.
2140  Other / Meta / Re: How do you know if the account is sold or not after it was advertised for sale? on: March 25, 2019, 07:01:08 PM
What you describe is indeed blackmail.
"If you do/don't do <thing>, I will <stuff>" is the blackmail formula.
I'm not an expert on blackmail, but I'm pretty sure the above in certain contexts could be considered a warning instead of blackmail.  If a police officer tells you to stop speeding, or else you're going to suffer the consequences, that's a warning.  He isn't looking to get something out of the transaction personally--and I think that's a key component of blackmail/extortion.

If someone sends a PM to a member on bitcointalk stating that if they don't stop spamming in a thread that they're going to get reported/negged, I would see that more as a chance to correct behavior before the offending party suffers some consequences.  It isn't threatening to expose someone in exchange for money/favors/whatever, which is usually what blackmail is.
blackmail is when you are asking for something, usually money, that they do not have a legitimate claim to/that they are not entitled to.

For example:
Asking someone to pay a valid debt owed and saying nonpayment will result in a lawsuit for the debt is not extortion.

Asking someone to pay $5000 when there is no financial relationship (purchased or otherwise), or else they will call the police on them is extortion because they don’t have any claim to the $5000

You can read this for more information about extortion.
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