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2181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 17, 2021, 09:53:54 AM
Things are happening, even if the price doesn't reflect it at the moment.

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CEO of NYDIG, "In the next week, you'll see gamechanging milestones for #bitcoin
 adoption in the financial landscape"
Eyes

https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1371923894043561987

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Visa CEO Claims Cryptocurrencies Could Become "Extremely Mainstream"

https://u.today/visa-ceo-claims-cryptocurrencies-could-become-extremely-mainstream

Just like Covid, or Global Warming, it's boiling a while, up to the point when the pot explodes and the lid flies sky-high  Smiley
2182  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Missed Millionfold Gains on: March 16, 2021, 11:32:08 PM
How many new stimmy-coiners will be hodlers?
If them whales play it like recently, how many of the newcoiners will stand the stress, but hodl through future FUD too?
Better get some popcorn from the store next time.


my math is bad "lol".  this is really terrible, if I buy Bitcoin when it price $0.06, I just hope to forget about Bitcoin for a moment and remember Bitcoin 10 years later Cheesy

Unfortunately, the way that tends to work is you go back home and say "Mum, do you remember that PC I had ten years ago?" and get the reply "It kept getting in the way and I needed somewhere to put the exercise bike so I threw it out". And similar stories.

4 years ago when BTC blew up past 1K I plugged in my old PC I had built in 2006 and used till 2010/2011 when I switched to Mac.
I was hoping I had forgotten about some BTC that I might have purchased in a drunk state at some point or find an old wallet or whatever.
All I could find was 500 gigs of porn.

At least I still have the porn.

500gb?!
you must have looked pretty pale-faced back then  Grin

2183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2021, 08:34:09 PM
Get ready for some hardcore stimmie check pumping guys!  Grin

It's not that much resistance at $56.400-ish levels, so once we are through it, should be fun to observe the chart in the next few hours and days.
At least i hope so  Cheesy
2184  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Crazy π on: March 16, 2021, 01:02:28 AM
As a mostly layman when it comes to maths (and sciences) funzies, could it be that one of the goals of continuing to attempt to calculate pi to further digits is to see if there might be a zero in there somewhere (I mean a last digit)? - and then we know how many actual digits pi has, rather than what seems to be an infinite number of digits without a last digit.  

We already know the answer to this: Pi has an infinite number of digits (i.e., there is no "last digit"). This is because Pi is an irrational number (it cannot be expressed as the ratio of two integers). Proof of this dates back to the 18th century (Lambert, 1761). The square root of 2 (1.414...) is another well-known irrational number.

We all (except Jay) know that π is an irrational sonofabitch; but is he normal?  Shocked

* Wrathful nullius is the negative one, because ’e is powered to imaginary·π.


Yes, I just implied that 0 = -1.  Well, that’s not as bad as looking for the last digit of π.

Pi, as a unique constant, by the definition of normality, imo can and can not be normal.
The Schrödinger's Cat of numbers. Although it's calculation is based on a geometric proximity model, so it's also virtual as can be  Cheesy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number

Damn, ruined the joke.

Not completely.
Turns out i haven't read that definition again in a looong time. Thanks Smiley
2185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2021, 12:25:09 AM
Ey, Bitcoin!
This is sooo February...  Roll Eyes
c'mon  Smiley

BOUNCE or i'll fall #ahodlsleep!
...or let some fiat come my way  Grin
2186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:51:36 PM
The fact that Musk calls his CFO a master of coin (in a SEC filing, lol) is interesting.
When something under your control is just 7-8% of your assets, you are not called a master of that, but rather a bigger "domain".

yeah, but he's the first well known dude to get into bitcoin with his company.
And he seems to have a favor for a teen-ish lifestyle, so no big surprise as of his CFO's nickname.

Pretty sure it's a game of thrones reference and not bitcorn, maybe a mashup though who knows..

Who knows. I wouldn't be surprised, if so.
Didn't watch GoT yet.
2187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:45:58 PM
The fact that Musk calls his CFO a master of coin (in a SEC filing, lol) is interesting.
When something under your control is just 7-8% of your assets, you are not called a master of that, but rather a bigger "domain".

yeah, but he's the first well known dude to get into bitcoin with his company.
And he seems to have a favor for a teen-ish lifestyle, so no big surprise as of his CFO's nickname.
2188  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Crazy π on: March 15, 2021, 10:41:57 PM
As a mostly layman when it comes to maths (and sciences) funzies, could it be that one of the goals of continuing to attempt to calculate pi to further digits is to see if there might be a zero in there somewhere (I mean a last digit)? - and then we know how many actual digits pi has, rather than what seems to be an infinite number of digits without a last digit.  

We already know the answer to this: Pi has an infinite number of digits (i.e., there is no "last digit"). This is because Pi is an irrational number (it cannot be expressed as the ratio of two integers). Proof of this dates back to the 18th century (Lambert, 1761). The square root of 2 (1.414...) is another well-known irrational number.

We all (except Jay) know that π is an irrational sonofabitch; but is he normal?  Shocked

* Wrathful nullius is the negative one, because ’e is powered to imaginary·π.


Yes, I just implied that 0 = -1.  Well, that’s not as bad as looking for the last digit of π.

Pi, as a unique constant, by the definition of normality, imo can and can not be normal.
The Schrödinger's Cat of numbers. Although it's calculation is based on a geometric proximity model, so it's also virtual as can be  Cheesy
2189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 09:01:17 PM
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1 BTC = 1 BTC

or is it

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1 BTC == 1 BTC
?

technically the first statement is not a boolean.

but the second statement is TRUE .  Grin

..but if you comparejavascript:void(0); strings you have to use quotes Smiley

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"1 BTC" == "1 BTC"

Put this way,

"1 BTC" = "1 BTC"

would just raise an error, right?



Well I guess a variable of "1 BTC" could recursively store itself and then lead to an "OutOfMemory" situation. Smiley

hmm, i doubt so. It's an (anonymous) string literal, which should be read-only (const).
But i got the joke and i like it Cheesy Cheesy
Are there "named variables" in this manner in any language you are aware of?
There are quite some freaky languages out there, like the famous INTERCAL
2190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 08:44:48 PM
Quote
1 BTC = 1 BTC

or is it

Quote
1 BTC == 1 BTC
?

technically the first statement is not a boolean.

but the second statement is TRUE .  Grin

..but if you compare strings you have to use quotes Smiley

Quote
"1 BTC" == "1 BTC"

Put this way,

"1 BTC" = "1 BTC"

would just raise an error, right?

2191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 08:40:25 PM
Computing Pi beyond 40 digits is pointless except as an academic exercise. Any phone today can compute pi to 100 digits even with inefficient programming.

The most distant spacecraft from Earth is Voyager 1. It's about 12.5 billion miles away. NASA only needs 15 decimal digits of pi to have an error margin of 1.5 inches at that distance.

If we used 40 digits of pi, you could calculate the circumference of the entire known or visible universe. About 46 billion light-years. To an accuracy equal to the diameter of a hydrogen atom.

There is no need for 1 million digits of pi, or waste 100 days to calculate trillions of digits.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/news/2016/3/16/how-many-decimals-of-pi-do-we-really-need/

I think I just printed pi on one of my school paper notebooks or something to 50 digits and used that as the cover. 3.1415xxxxxx ... heh.

What's the value of Pi?

Mathematician - 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481
Physicist - 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716
Engineer - about 3 something


Engineers use a minimum of 3 significant digits as a rule.

Dude, you just ruined a mathematician's joke  Cheesy
2192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 08:37:34 PM
@Biodom: I prefer conversations on the web to be non personal, objective, non insulting and/or funny/entertaining.
I don't get much out of flaming, at least it's sometimes entertaining my lil selfie  Grin

While i tend to "interfere" in discussions quite often, why would i judge such behaviour in someone else?
That wouldn't make much sense, would it?

However, i'm an outside spectator in the ongoing conversation between Bob, you and JJG, so i can't answer your question because i like to stay neutral.
Overall, my point of view in general is: Everybody can do/act as he pleases, as long as nobody gets harmed in any way. Like "respectful anarchy".

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1 BTC = 1 BTC

or is it

Quote
1 BTC == 1 BTC
?

technically the first statement is not a boolean.

but the second statement is TRUE .  Grin


+1 WOsMerit
2193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 08:09:46 PM
Because some of us are still used to 2017 pump levels. I made that mistake, too.
But JJG got me straight again  Wink

What are "we" saying now then?

Are we in like mid-2017 ish price levels, where we might have a decently large pullback before continuing up in a kind of blow-off top?

Or might we end up in more of a kind of 2013 double top performance where we might be somewhere in the first price bubble (whether it has peaked or not might be another question), and then our pullback would be longer than the one(s) that happened after August 2017.

I keep getting the sense that the top of this particular bubble could end up dragging into 1st quarter or 2nd quarter of 2022.. but surely there is a whole hell of a time between now and then, so it is difficult to suggest how this bubble could get there - so maybe in the end, those folks who have been more reliant on the four year fractal for providing their guidance end up being correct and we just get another cycle that ends up playing itself out in the last quarter of 2021.. I still don't know how that happens either and could reasonably result in tops that range anywhere in the $150k territory to even up to $1.5 million.. and yeah no one finds this helpful to have such a broad range and the higher end of the range does come off as a bit over-the-top in terms of probabilities, especially to be able to reach it by the end of the year (which then causes me to consider that if the top ends up being even close to that $1.5million high for this cycle, then it just seems more reasonable that the cycle could take a wee bit longer to play out).

Surely, difficult to speak with any kind of confidence without coming off as a wee bit of a kook.. but at the same time, I have hardly any sense of financial expectations that any of the UPpity BTC price performances need to play out to make me feel MOAR better financially.. even though psychologically there could be some good feelings in regards to pointing at the no coiners who had continued to fail/refuse to take any kinds of meaningful actions to acquire some corns in case they catch on.. and BTC prices going up to the upper end of the range - even $500k to $1.5k would surely be quite validating (just in case some of us don't already feel validated enough.. .I was even feeling pretty validated in the $10k to $20k range.. so, there is that angle, too)


Alright, but "we" learned that BTC historic chart moves/prices can't simply be mapped onto the future.
While a $1k dump/pump thrilled the shit out of me in 2017, it's just a "meh" occurrence nowadays, but relatively speaking, a -$1k move in Q1 of 2017 would be like about a -$5k move in the todays. If expressed in percent, the same price movements would "feel" bigger in absolute values, maybe you remember our little discussion about this, some weeks or months ago.
Even relatively spoken, $500k is plausible, because it would be under 900% move up from current price, which we "know" BTC does like to do, post halvening.
That is what we used to know. With the s-curve hypothesis, the nearing liquidity crisis and big institutional money flowing in for the long haul, it is clearly possible that there will be no -80% two year lasting bear market in the next years. As the time goes on, your mappings of a peak in Q1/2 2022 could even turn into a plateau, followed by further plateaus, gradually decreasing by height and increasing in duration, what would result in said s-curve.
I like the idea, and i would be happy to observe this, and it's not only unrealistic to happen, because we didn't have it yet. Honey badger will surprise (most of) us, and hopefully not in proudhon's favour. The end of cycles as we know them, followed by "steps".
I realized i have to look back to 2017 like early adopters looked back at 2013 in 2017, but there's still no right way to look forward.

EDIT: Just checked the price ($56.6xx) and like that i'm "in the money" while i bought a bit too high today. I could also have waited for that second dip, what seems quite a regular thing following significant dumps, lately. IDC. I got more sats, that's all that counts. May i quote nullly:

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1 BTC = 1 BTC

or is it

Quote
1 BTC == 1 BTC
?
2194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 12:27:33 PM
No worries. It cuckolded me into buying instead Tongue
2195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:57:03 AM
Sick to see these sellwalls grow on this dump. Playing into the hands of accumulators and bearwhales.

EDIT: Who thinks we're going down a second time today? I'm twisted.

Lol, who do you think put the sell walls there?  Roll Eyes

I don't think they'd set them this deep. Wouldn't make a lot of sense (or money).

EDIT: Let me refine. Why would they sell a bunch to trigger SL and panic sells, to buy in lower again and then set up sells slightly above their buy levels?

To drive the price down and force 'those inclined to panic' to sell into their bids.

Classic 'bear raid'.

Now i got what you mean. Yes, should add to the momentum, too.

EDIT: But as a bull i think to myself: "great, more cheap coins at (almost) fixed, lower prices instead of climbing up the bidding ladder".

Turns out, i'm not gifted much in taking the view of a bear  Grin
2196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:55:36 AM
did some reading on the Gain-Of-Function research in science and I'm shocked now. since several years mankind is on the way to destroy themselves by Gain-Of-Function research and tweaking all kind of viruses. a second way to destroy themselves besides nuclear weapons.

The best thing: the guy supervising this dangerous stuff is also in charge of (US) COVID policy.

The crazy are running ruining the asylum.

FTFY
2197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:52:13 AM
Because some of us are still used to 2017 pump levels. I made that mistake, too.
But JJG got me straight again  Wink
2198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:44:50 AM
Sick to see these sellwalls grow on this dump. Playing into the hands of accumulators and bearwhales.

EDIT: Who thinks we're going down a second time today? I'm twisted.

Lol, who do you think put the sell walls there?  Roll Eyes

I don't think they'd set them this deep. Wouldn't make a lot of sense (or money).

EDIT: Let me refine. Why would they sell a bunch to trigger SL and panic sells, to buy in lower again and then set up sells slightly above their buy levels?
2199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 10:31:52 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-india-cryptocurrency-ban-idUSKBN2B60QP

Latest round of FUD; India looking to ban crypto which we've known for some time now... People dump for the stupidest reasons. If India wants to shut themselves out of a revolution, that's their bad luck

Old news.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/markets/india-will-not-shut-off-all-cryptocurrency-wants-blockchain-sitharaman-121031400754_1.html

Better ban India from crypto  Grin
If they don't stop spreading the FUD  Cheesy

Now get on with that $timulu$ pump already!

EDIT: /me getting over-excited again. Usually i do this before dips, so hold your fiat ready  Wink
But when i see how those red walls get eaten up slowly, i doubt another dip (which usually follows right after i'm sure it should not occur)...
2200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2021, 09:56:11 AM
Sick to see these sellwalls grow on this dump. Playing into the hands of accumulators and bearwhales.

EDIT: Who thinks we're going down a second time today? I'm twisted.
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