Wenn es ein Bitcoin-Bankensystem gäbe, könnte ich auch Bitcoins verleihen, die tatsächlich nicht existieren.
Eigentümer der Bitcoins kann nur einer sein, Besitzer könnte es viele geben. So ungefähr stelle ich mir das vor: Eigentümer verleiht > Bank 1 verleiht > Besitzer 1 verleiht > Bank 2 verleiht > Besitzer 2 verleiht > ... |
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Wir sind ja alle verantwortungsvolle und rationale Konsumenten und Produzenten, nich wahr? Daher heiligt der Markt alle Mittel von allein, nur der Markt kann optimale Allokation aller Ressourcen. Wenig bis kein Staat, weil der macht alles nur viel schlimmer. Der Staat allein ist auch immer schuld, wenn böse Monopole entstehen. Weil jede Regulierung hat unvorhergesehene Folgen. Der schlimmste Regulator ist die Zentralbank, daher konkurrierende Währungen bittschön. Wobei man sich sicher ist, dass sich Gold und Silber durchsetzen werden, und heut vielleicht auch der Bitcoin.
Das ist so extrem, dass kann nur Ironie sein. |
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Goldman Sachs can make arrangements with the government, how they did after dealing with John Paulson. Now you cannot call this fraud, because the court found them not guilty. http://theovertonsalon.com/2010/04/16/goldman-sachs-and-fraud/ The damage has to be caught by normal people. This is the market! Small people like M4v3R cannot make such arrangements. This is the difference. They have to pay it itself, like the people that bought expensive houses in the US without sufficient income. |
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The market, Scarlet. The market is the only thing that matters, the only thing that lasts....
Bangsters are lying to you all the time, not telling you what they do with your money (Lehman Brothers). This is the market today! |
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@M4v3R
I believe that you are honest.
But obviously you are a mere trader. What I know of going short and long is that serious dealers want to stabilize their assets with this, something like an insurance. But your large shorting shows to me you did not believe in Bitcoins. What a pity!
I have lost many Bitcoins with GLBSE (and got back around the fifth part until now), and have learned my lesson. Happily I leaved bitmarket.eu some months ago because of security reasons. And I have little money/Bitcoins on the other trading platforms.
I used bitmarket.eu for a year very successfully, had a trading fee of 0.5%, and was helped on issues by the support. I will soon donate 10 Bitcoins (or some more, it depends) to you. I will get them back on the next (temporary) price dump.
As an anticyclic trader anyone can hedge or manipulate as much as he want, I like it.
Trust is a very expensive value even now in this world, it's now gone.
Regards
kneim
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11 EUR, in Heilbronn oder Hannover
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Hey Adam, you joker, I've put my bid wall at 12.51, and now you are Buying at 12.82? ;-> Your buy order of 10.000000000 BTC at $12.82000 CAD/BTC has been completely filled on Dec. 19, 2012, 6:47 a.m. (MST).  |
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Ich halte die gefühlte Inflation für die tatsächliche Inflation, meines Erachtens hat das längst begonnen.
Inflation lässt sich auch anders erzeugen als einfach nur durch den Preis. Man kann beispielsweise die Qualität reduzieren (betrifft viele Güter des täglichen Bedarfs, z.B. Auslagerung in Niedriglohnländer mit geringen Sozialstandards), die Wartezeiten verlängern (Kosten durch Anstellen beim Arzt oder an der Kasse, Warteschleifen am Telefon), Einführung versteckter Kosten (Flugverkehr), ungefragte Werbung trotz Bezahlung einer Ware ( Windows 8 ).
Wenn ich noch etwas nachdenke, fallen mir sicher weitere Dinge ein. Auf jeden Fall würde ich Inflation nicht auf die offizielle Preissteigerung des Warenkorb reduzieren, irgendwann befindet sich Plastikkäse darin, reicht ja für die 99% ;-)
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Had 16 different shares or bonds, 4 of the issuers already answered (not gigamining at this time). So Nefario forwarded the asset information.
But I never got parts of my cash, about 130 BTC. Nefario did not answer on my email.
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Es ging dem Chef wohl weniger um die Sticker, als lieber Euro als Bitcoins im Säckel zu haben. Verständlich, wenn man das nicht vorher mit dem Chef klärt.
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Had a lot of shares on GLBSE, will not wait any more. I'm sure now this is a scam. I will send a self-made bot with all its trading information to the share issuers the next days, hope this can be counted as evidence. For GIGAMINIG the last entry (2012-10-04_16:38:54) showed 85 shares. Will send a PM soon.
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Postbank hat mit 2 Monaten frist nun auch gekündigt Grund ist halt das was alle anderen Banken auch sagen. Langsam bin ich fast durch mit den Konten in Deutschland. Werde ich jemals wieder eins besitzen können? Ne spaß bei Seite. Commerzbank und Norisbank habe ich jetzt noch offen. Das Polnische Konto (Bank Zachodni WBK S.A.) hat bereits über 500.000 EUR stand gehalten und wird es auch weiter hin tun  Sie sind einfach die besten. P.s. ich war vor kurzem wegen Geldwäsche aussagen. Ermittlungsverfahren wurde aber fallengelassen. Außstehende 10.000 EUR von der DAB Bank wurden durch den Anwalt wiedergeholt Herzlichen Glückwunsch, das freut mich sehr. Werde mir die DAB Bank merken. Die haben auch private Halter von Griechenland-Anleihen bei deren Umstellung zu unangemessen hohen Gebühren genötigt, weil sich die Kunden nicht wehren konnten. Ich fürchte, dass irgendwann auch die polnische Bank angewiesen wird, ihre Unterstützung einzustellen. Dort sind auch Intersango und Mt.Gox. Hoffentlich bleibt uns noch viel Zeit bis dahin. |
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I happen to have this bitcoin-24 bitcoin value monitor, and it is reporting funny values. USD Buy at 0, USD sell at 3 USD/BTC.
(Disclaimer: haven't used the actual exchange myself.)
There is very low order value in USD, so I think these oscillation arise from faulty order values. I have begun to put some small orders in USD there. |
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I believe in BTC, and this instability does not matter to me, I compete it. I do not try to predict the future price of BTC.
On BTC drop I buy for ( x USD ) for every Cent the BTC value drops. My max. investment at this time could be ( 1050 Ct * x USD/Ct ).
On BTC rise I do sell my gainings.
Timing is medium at least this way, waiting on larger price jumps enhances my timing.
This way I cannot loose money on the long run, and I anticipate the oscillations, this stabilizing the price.
As I cannot be sure that BTC will withstand attacks forever, it's only a small part of my property, below 10%.
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I switched to short/mid term bear recently but that has now changed. I feel very bullish mainly thanks to the recent European Central Bank report and also some other smaller stuff such as the MMOExchange/Ogrr merger that finally happened and Bitcoin Friday which I think will be a fairly big event also.
I wish some news came regarding the BitInstant Debit card but other than that I'm feeling bullish.
and + Coinbase links Bitcoin to Your Bank Account is a nice service to what's bitcoin friday You don't want to know. Seriously. I want to know also, seriously. |
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Stop panicking. http://blog.glbse.com/shutdown-updateI'm currently clawing back overpayments that were made last week.
I've gotten about 1/2 way through the list.
If you've gotten an email saying you have been paid 90% of your funds but no payment was made don't worry, I'm aware of this and those payments will be made.
Following this the final bitcoin payouts will be made and I'll begin getting issuers lists of their asset holders(ones who have approved for their contact details to be shared).
To clarify, if you have not approved to have your payment address and contact details shared with your issuers, you are essentially terminating any contract you have with them.
GLBSE is closed and we won't be acting as a go-between, if you don't want to share any contact details with your issuers then there is no expectation for them to continue any relationship with you anymore (how could they). I've not even got this message about 90% ... Closing his web page shows to me he doesn't care about his customers. |
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No BTC no information. I had only one account on GLBSE.
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^^^ He gave his email and BTC address. Upon relogin, he noticed the claim finished notice.
That's exactly how it should be once you input your details.
For me it's a big difference. Some weeks ago there was a startpage where I entered email address, BTC address, and if asset information should be forwarded. After entering all information, I thought to have finished all prerequisites. Now there is a login startpage with other information. Why can I log in? What's their intention? And what about people not yet have entered their BTC address some weeks before? |
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