He did not say he is. He talked about learning and that also guys like Zuckerberg and Jobs etc. had to learn a lot through their career.

Neue Probleme: http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/28/ethereum-soft-fork-dos-vector/

Don't cry girl and make more PR for whatever you try to push with your signature! ;-)


btw.: Karl? Really?

Lisk Rating summary:



https://invesd.org/review1lisk/

Max Kordek ‏@MaxKordek
Traveling back to Germany. See you soon, China.
https://twitter.com/MaxKordek/status/746915135650832385

Max Kordek ‏@MaxKordek
Once I am back you can expect more Lisk marketing again.
https://twitter.com/MaxKordek/status/747069967351177216

First: Yuanbao is not a really big exchange but it's also not that small. Back in December I saw that there is a lot of money on that exchange and what they did with the Factom-price. The volume on Poloniex exploded but it was even higher on Yuanbao.

Second: It's not possible to compare Lisk and Maid. I'm not speaking that much about the projects itself, but the situation on the market. Maid has a lot of resistance in the market because it was pumped really high and came back down. Now it's hard to find the way back up. Lisk is in another situation. It's very young and was very volatile since launch, with constantly high volume = a lot of distribution.

Third: Nobody can know how big Lisk's potential really is but what is safe to say: The team is very diligent and effective and Lisk is kind of a hype and gets a lot of attention. The launch on Yuanbao is combined with Max being in China and banging the drum for it.

Fourth: Dumping on any exchange is very often a reaction on Bitcoin lately. Lisk (and some others) would be much higher if Bitcoin would have been stayed where it was, at about $400. I believe there is some chance that Bitcoin will stabilize for some time which could give room for Lisk to go up. Yesterday was a very special day because of the BTC-dumping first, than Brexit and it went up again. It's unpredictable at the moment and that's just another reason why all markets act kind of irrational.

But: I believe that Lisks way is predictable for the next few weeks: UP. Reason is that there will most likely come quiet a lot. Max will be back from China, and I believe it's near to impossible that he won't have some good news. He already said on twitter that there will be a blog-post about it soon. High attention is safe for Lisk, the same is true for the volume. The price is not too low but also not too high and seems to find a base at about 50k-60k. It's no bad situation right now. A lot of up-potential.

Es ist aber nicht nur eine Website fehlerhaft, sondern die Programmiersprache - Solidity.

Insofern ist der nach wie vor sehr hohe Preis das Resultat einer Mischung aus Irrationalität in Kombination mit Marktmanipulation. Meiner Ansicht nach ist Ethereum zwar ein sehr wichtiges Projekt, aber eher wie ein wissenschaftliches Labor um Möglichkeiten zu finden. Nichts das mittelfristig tatsächlich eine Basis für einen echten Nutzen hat. 

I know what I believe. ;-) But yes, I agree that it's not the point.




1. This means before all: Ethereum is much more expensive and the one and only question is: Is it worth the high price?
2. What you call "the market" is highly manipulated. Not just for Ethereum of course, but no project is so massive manipulated like Ethereum. It's a bot-party and it's visible that it would be down much more if it wouldn't be backed. That's what they do: They play with huge money and what they want to do with DAO is under the line (if they really do it) like a bailout. Something like that can hardly work for longterm. If I'm right with my thoughts, Ethereum will have a very hard way and that will have effect on it's price. A hype could help, if Bitcoin goes through the roof it will also have effect on Ethereum and it could rise even more after Bitcoin comes back down. But the same is even more true for Factom, which looks solid in comparison while Ethereum seems to be an Illusion of value.






Yes, kind of true. But it's never about the present, it's always about anticipating the future. And value is never objective, it's always just the result of many many influences including a lot of irrationality and also manipulation. That said: If I ask myself which project has more potential, it's Factom.


They often said that they are in testing, that they can't give an exact date, it's obvious that they are working on it in the github. I have no doubt that it will come. So, what the hell is really your concern about it? That's what I call superficial! You complain about the delay, but you don't say what it means for you. So please, answer just one time what you believe what the delay stands for in your opinion! Do you believe they don't work enough? Do you believe they are not able to deliver, not skilled enough? Or could it be possible that they just are super-perfectionists who do all to avoid to release something that is not rock-stable?

And how can you seriously complain about a delay but say nothing about the flaws in Ethereum? All you say is: "The market...". The price for ETH is very high, so it must be a good project. What do you think will Ethereum do with it's solidity-flaws? What do you think will they do regarding DAO? What will happen to the price when the DAO-ETH will flow back into the market.

Just btw: The high price for Ethereum is also a result that so much Ether was locked into DAO. That removed a lot of supply from the market and the price increased. But the DAO-Ether will come back! So, what do you think will happen with Ethereum and it's price? Do you believe it's ready for the business-world? Do you believe a company would use it?

Not sure what exactly you want to say with that. It's not about privacy, it's about developing quality. And I don't think that there is a lack of transparency. They won't give a date because most likely they can't.

What I believe is very simple: It's harder to do than expected. Most likely they try out a lot to find the best possible way to do it. They think in years and more. They want to establish a project that includes a company. They want to stay for decades. And the base for all of their plans is the Factom-system. If I would be the "Boss of Factom" I couldn't help much, but I would write on every wall: Perfectionism. No release ever before it's as perfect as it can be.

Ich habe nicht Bitbays übersehen, hatte aber nicht bewusst zur Kenntnis genommen, dass das ne chinesische Börse ist.

And again your estimation is just about the price. Or could you say where exactly Ethereum is "in front"? Smart contracts? Yes. Factom is not in the smart contract business. But do you really believe anybody would use Ethereum seriously with such security-flaws? Do you believe the Ethereum-Blockchain would be a good decision to record data into it?

I'll give you some infos about Ethereum. And if the majority of ppl would read it, the price would crash:

Ethereum itself seems to be flawed according to the latest developments on the DAO Hack.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-solidity-flaw-dao/

Ethereum is Doomed
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/ethereum-is-doomed/?fb_ref=Default
 
DAO Debacle Escalates: Attacker Counter-Attacks Ethereum Developers
http://www.coindesk.com/dao-counter-attack-ethereum/


And just by the way: The debacle was predicted!

Just one article about it - May 18:

Ethereum Contracts Are Going To Be Candy For Hackers
http://vessenes.com/ethereum-contracts-are-going-to-be-candy-for-hackers/


Your problem seems to be: You sold your Factoids to buy Ethereum right before it's DAO-disaster and now you're scared that Ethereum could go down while it's just a matter of time that Factom will have more good news. And: What you see at the Ethereum-chart now is most likely a bull-trap and it's already going back down. In combination with a rising BTC it most likely will find new lows. And, we shouldn't forget the DAO-Ether that will reach the market. Plus: DAO, the biggest Ethereum-related-project is done. Slock.it has also lost a lot in this debacle - money but especially trust.

So, good luck with your decision!

Ah, okay. Bitbays hatte ich nicht auf den Schirm. Danke für die Info!

Zuerst mal volle Zustimmung zu Deinem Post. Sie machen definitiv einen guten Job bisher, extrem engagiert. Aber: Drei chinesische Börsen? Bisher ist LSK auf Jubi, sicher ist das Yuanbao Lisk morgen listen wird. Dann gibts noch ein Foto von Max mit den Typen von Huobi aber kein Wort darüber dass Huobi Lisk nehmen wird, was ich persönlich auch nicht glaube da Huobi meines Wissens außer LTC gar keine Altcoins auf der Börse hat.

Welche ist die dritte Exchange?

The dump seems to be a reaction on the little Bitcoin "pump" after it's low at $ 560. And it wasn't just Factom that got a hit. I believe that people hoped alts would react with more up-dynamic on the Bitcoin-drop. Now it can be expected that Bitcoin found it's base and goes back up and that might bring some pressure on alts because many bet on the Halving, maybe new ATH's for Bitcoin. That's a problem for other markets since weeks.

I personally don't expect that Bitcoin just will shoot up again but that it will be very volatile which will make it hard to find the best position. For me that's just another reason that Factom is my Nr. 1. It feels more safe than Bitcoin. And if Bitcoin should explode to new ATH's I will take the loss first. I count on a dynamic like Litecoin had it in late 2013.

It was not. I was very close and Factom is still my Nr. 1 and I remember exactly that the news about Azure came first. The price increased a little bit but it exploded with yuanbao.

Just compare the chart:

Dec 15: Azure https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-baas-update-2/
Dec 21: yuanbao  https://www.factom.com/chinese-exchange-yuanbao-adds-support-for-factoids/

Or do you really believe the market needed 6 days to react on Azure but ignored yuanbao? It had a higher volume than Poloniex and traded it 100% above Polo! ;-)

He does a really good job in china. The combination of conference, networking, marketing, media attention and at least one chinese exchange will have a nice impact on the price. In between I sold some of my Lisk but now I'm back in and have even more than I bought initially in the ICO.

Let's hope it's a photo that will be in the Lisk-history book and we will say "It was not just a photo!" ;-)

That would be absolutely awesome.

Impossible to make a serious prediction but at least we can expect that it will go up if Bitcoin stays where it is, or goes down even more.

Wow, just found this:

Lisk will soon be available on http://Yuanbao.com . Extremely nice people work there! Happy trading.

http://yuanbao.com/news/detail/?id=991

https://twitter.com/MaxKordek/status/745604704600612864


And just for those who never have heard of yuanbao, yet. It's not the biggest chinese exchange, but Factom did this when it was listed there:




The volume on yuanbao was higher than on Polo and the first day the price was twice as high in china compared to Polo - until there was enough arbitrage.

With a little luck Bitcoin will stabilize in the current range and stay there for a while. That would be a good base for FCT to rise - for others as well of course. But, I expect Bitcoin to be very volatile over the next time.